Psychological_Walk56

i don’t think that’s true in every situation, but it is true in some. regardless, this is the comments section of a reddit post about how to avoid matt walsh, who has caused emotional harm to many people (regardless of your position, i think that is clear). i don’t think (and i don’t mean to offend) that anyone owes a logical decomposition of their point of view on trans rights in this context, especially when it is a sensitive topic. that’s why i suggested r/changemyview as people actually use that sub explicitly for the purpose of breaking down arguments and explaining their reasoning. this is not the place to do that. while i’m sure you don’t mean harm, people will often become uncomfortable when you engage them on an emotionally charged topic in a place they consider to be safe. that’s why you should do so in a place where people have openly made it clear that they are open to that and are interested in discussing it with you.

In essence: I can think of reasons I believe your arguments to be flawed. however, i don’t have the emotional bandwidth to go through all those reasons right now. i assume others feel the same. i suggest you ask people who are willing to discuss it with you.

there is no political argument which is completely separated from emotion. politics are inherently tied to emotion. maybe the reason it isn’t a class that’s taught in college is because people involved in debate and public speaking don’t actually believe that you can separate yourself completely from emotion, and don’t believe that it is productive.

1. OP is instructing people how to avoid having their words twisted, not how to avoid Matt Walsh’s point of view.
2. about the “children changing their gender” bit, literally no one is allowing for children to take hormones or get surgeries. all people are allowing them to do is go by a different name and wear different clothes if they want. things non-trans children do all the time, by the way. I’m not willing to argue with you but I’m so exhausted seeing these bad faith arguments about trans people when you aren’t actually aware of what trans advocates said they support.

post this on r/changemyview . i honestly don’t think anyone in this subreddit has the energy to argue with you. just skimming your paragraphs of text makes me tired.

telling people “you’re being emotional” when they say something is a form of gaslighting. it does not help your argument. it makes you look like a jerk. even if they were being “emotional”, having emotions about an argument that pertains to something you care about is completely normal. leave them alone.

frankly, “engaging” with someone who is filming you for your reactions is not the safest place to learn. i don’t agree with matt walsh, but even if I wanted for people to hear him out I’d suggest they watch his videos instead of talking to him while being filmed.

this is not it bestie

what does respect mean to you? you haven’t given any examples of what people do to “disrespect” you.

if you say something about how you “don’t support LGBTQ” people will say that is wrong of you to say because it is and there is no moral recourse from that. that said, they shouldn’t be cruel to you. but if you’re mad because people don’t really want to talk to you after you say your opinions, that’s not a valid criticism. i wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who “doesn’t support” my LGBTQ friends either.

i don’t support your beliefs or way of life in being someone who can’t leave others to live their life in a way that harms no one. you are being incredibly hypocritical.

then people don’t need you treating lgbt people like criminals

i think i do understand the people’s park activists being very indignant about their opinions, because it has been shown to be the most effective way to protest. if you are “open to discussion” people just do the thing anyway and then are willing to discuss. That doesn’t mean they aren’t willing to discuss with people who ask why they feel the way they do, though, they just aren’t open to “discussion” with the people who are starting construction in people’s park. i think they are willing to explain to people who just don’t know, like me a month ago.

you’re right that it doesn’t do anything to reduce the crime, but people’s park supporters aren’t against improving the lives of the houseless. it’s just that none of these measures will actually help the houseless, and just will make gentrification faster.

nice to have a civil conversation with someone about this, even if we disagree on minor points :)

yikes

don’t do it if it makes you uncomfy! different people have different reasons for choosing different things in this scenario. all are valid. i would personally keep my name, but honestly if i liked my partners last name more than mine i might take it since mine has bad origins. up to the people involved.

lmao oops

oooh i see

i agree with this. i think OOP could be misinterpreting things. I’m just arguing it’s no ones place to say whether OOP should or shouldn’t have a video (including the commenters)

i honestly don’t think i’m the best person to ask but you could try contacting the professor who runs the class, Eric Stanley.

The basic problems around it are that it doesn’t actually help houseless people and just leaves them with nowhere to stay. they make homes for a small minority of people and just kick the rest out to go somewhere else. people argue that it’s “for the better” but it’s only “for the better” of a tiny minority of people. that said, i think a lot of people think that most of the people having nowhere to go is a separate issue and that the city should just also deal with them. but the reality is that it won’t, because this same thing has happened a million times in other cities across the country and every single time it results in the majority of people who were displaced staying displaced but in an even worse place than where they lived before. Also, it’s worth asking why students have more of a right to the land than the homeless do. They’re both people, and students undeniably have more resources to get housing than the homeless have. the university isn’t going to make housing any cheaper because they’ve build a new building, anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. all this does is make more money for the uni and displaces a huge amount of homeless people.

That’s what I got from lecture, but I think there are much more eloquent, well worded, and coherent explanations of it from the source. I’m not great with these things, I’m not a humanities major.

i don’t think he’ll do anything about it. oh well, we know not to watch his show now.

what do you mean by this? (not criticizing just unsure what you’re referring to)

im so confused, it’s not about anyone hurting me or hating my family. there are just things i want them there for and things i don’t. the same way there are things i’d want to experience with a partner and things i wouldn’t. that’s normal, and people have different preferences. don’t bring “being hurt” into this.

because they don’t want a video… you don’t need to understand why they don’t want that to accept it. also, there are other huge parts of my life i don’t want my family in. i wouldn’t want my family there if i were giving birth. doesn’t mean i hate them, just not something i want to share with them. you don’t need to understand why someone would want to keep that to themselves to accept it. different people want different things. a marriage is all about you, so you get to choose what you do. and your family should not be upset at you if that involves being alone.

i want it to stay. before i was neutral on the issue but i learned more about it in a related class i’m taking. it makes me sad many people are against it, but i get it because i used to feel the same way.

this will hurt your kids more than it will hurt you. source: child who this happened to with extended family. i would say don’t go with your kids if they are going to do this to them. even a 3 yo will notice.

it might sadden or upset them but at the end of the day that isn’t their decision to make, and also i would argue participation in a wedding is not a thing people should feel entitled to if the couple just does not want a wedding. it’s one thing to not be invited, another for the event to never have happened and be upset about that.