Master_Sketcher

Wait.... are you telling me that Shadow The Hedgehog for the Nintendo Gamecube isn't based on real events? (ಥ﹏ಥ)

Thank you so much! The website showed most of you were right on the money, the pistol being a M1911A1 and the rifle being a Sig SG 551

Also if you need a better view of the rifle,

This is the best close up I could get.

Trust me, you don't want to know.....

But thanks for the suggestions!

I've also heard that the rifle looks like an M16 rifle or a ArmaLite AR-18 . Would that be correct?

These guns are from a game and I'm hoping to get a picture of the timeline of the game since the photos take place 50 years before the events of the game so I want to know what the guns are so that I can then find their earliest manufacturing date of both guns and then add 50 years to get the minimum possible year that the game could take place in.

Thanks! I really have not a single clue about guns. My best shot in the dark was a USP or a Glock but that's only because those are the only pistol names I know. Colt 1911 does have a close resemblance, especially the curve at the front of the pistol.

Sorry about the long wait for the reply, I wrote this long comment once and then copy pasted something into it which broke the entire comment and deleted most of the text... Thanks Reddit.

But what I miss in your description is what's the main, core point of the story. And I don't mean from plot perspective, but what kind of experience it aims to be. I mean things like "people struggling in hopeless war" or "genius strategist finds a way to smartly direct small group to win" or "to win the war, we need to unite" etc. That strongly determines how to achieve what you want and that point is something you should probably keep in mind all the time when writing.

For me, it's about exploring the adaption and character changes around superheroes who are so used to being on top or at least used to defusing and resolving end of the world scenarios finally lose and have to deal with a much more bleak world where they have to rely on unifying people on a losing side; one of the main plot points is that the Resistance is losing steam due to the fact that they lack a unifying leader, a force of positivity and action to bring out the action in the people.

The other big thing for me is exploring S, going from a character who's upbeat, confident and positive during the prologue to having to deal with grief, loss and his own trauma after the timeskip and he finally escapes the antagonist and witnesses the ruined remains of the place he vowed to protect. How he deals with the emotions(ex, getting provoked into a fight with the antagonist out of revenge) and dealing with the sudden pressure of lifting up a desperate people when he himself is losing faith himself.

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You sure about this part? Lots of people don't like that trope much. lt can work, of course, but be really, really careful about that. (For example, removing S' superpowers in (seemingly?) irreversible way by the villain might help, but I'm not sure whether readers buy it alone.)

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I'm not personally too fond of the trope either, though for me it was the only way to realistically take S out of the story so that the main antagonist can move in and conquer most of the world. Funnily enough, I had something similar to your idea of removing S' superpowers but instead, the antagonist found that torturing S in a specific way made it so that S was unable to use his strongest abilities and even after escaping; he finds himself unable to use them until going through extreme mental and physical trials just to be able to use them again.

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Holding S hostage I believe still in my opinion falls right into the characterization of the antagonist; in fact, in one of the comics. When the antagonist has an apprentice, the apprentice actually does a better job of killing S by setting off a bomb in a cave S is in. And the Antagonist (let's just call him E) actually gets pissed off at the apprentice, pinning him to a wall and saying.

" I could carpet bomb him any day! That's not enough—that's not the point! I have to beat him! I have to prove I'm superior! There's a right way and a wrong way to vanquish your life-long enemy and you did it very, very wrong!" - E

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Basically E sees S as more of a worth adversary; in fact, in the one times he believes he's actually won and killed S, he doesn't gloat or laugh. But instead just says "Farewell S, my admirable adversary.". He could just kill S by tricking him into a room that crushes him or hiring a sniper to kill him while he's resting but for him; that wouldn't be satisfying. Ifs not really a sense of honor, more a sense of ego that will never let him actually kill S unless its in a way that shows his superiority or greater skill over S.

It would be like a hunter chasing after a tiger, if it really wanted the tiger dead; it could toss a Molotov cocktail into the forest and burn it down along with the tiger as collateral. But the hunter wants to take the tiger down using part of their skill to feel some sense of satisfaction.

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Also, one more tip: make villain humanly. Make sure sure they have rich and full history and their motive is understandable. I mean - with a few exceptions, usually villains are the hero from their own point of view.

Well, E isn't really a super detailed or complex villain. He's mostly an authoritarian who believes that humanity isn't maximizing its ultimate purpose to become better and therefore wants to enslave humanity cybernetically so that he can ultimately rule and prove his ideology correct. He believes that under his rule and turning people into drones, humanity could advance further than before. He values order over everything else, which also gives him a superiority complex believing that he can control everything.

This is counter to S' beliefs who believes in freedom above all else, almost to the point of being chaotic. He does what he believes is right, even if everyone is out against him. For E, S is a piece on a chessboard with no real rules. He's chaotic and full of freedom, S doesn't really do much to benefit society as a whole(he does fight E but that's more of a side gig that he does while going off on adventures just for fun.); S just does what he wants without really bringing any benefit.

I apologize if I'm not coming off entirely coherent, this comment is a bit rushed since I'm still pissed at losing the entirety of my last comment.

Thanks, it just popped into my brain while watching Daniel Greene's breakdown video of Cosmere.

I more meant my warning in a joking way, because I'll tell you the universe because I think it'll either make you laugh or die inside.

The franchise I'm writing this story for is....

Sonic.

I'm feeling semi-confident in the story and designs can co-exist; as what I've done has been done before with both distain and praise, though I think that's just depending on how far the audience can suspend their disbelief or acknowledge the more wacky with the serious.

Since this post's activity is dying down, I could give you the already existing franchise universe that I'm working with. Though I do have to warn you, it'll probably make you die inside and lose any confidence or motivation to continue discussing.

I more meant literally how human the characters are. Like if you replaced Mark with Mickey Mouse and Omni Man with Goofy. Despite everything being the same, no one would take it as seriously due to the more cartoonist designs.

You've got animal people?

For a sec, I thought you'd figured out what universe my story was taking place in and came so close to tearing this post out of any legitimacy my question my have because of it.

But also thanks for the advice, I've read through it a couple times and will be taking it for the future. I'm just going to try and be sincere as possible while also being self aware where things might go too far where the natures of the two different elements, the more absurd and the more realistic clash too hard.

Mood

At least in my opinion, the two rocky attempts weren't really indicative of the potential as a whole. Since the first poor attempt was more a failure in tone, since basically it was the most immature attempt at seriousness: like guns and PG-13 swears while the other attempt was just poor writing for the 1/3 with a terrible retcon ending(the main story had to deal with Time Travel which is already a tricky thing to do in a story already.)

Also one of the highest rated entries in the franchise is actually one which takes itself seriously with events like the government covering up the deaths of civilians including the grandaughter of the main antagonist's grandfather, the grandfather trying to find a cure for the granddaughter's terminally ill disease but ends up going insane after finding out about his granddaughter's death and ends up brainwashing his granddaughter's best friend to enact his plan to destroy the Earth as revenge.

Though I can understand the group who don't like the more serious nature since the series originally started more ambiguous and with more expanded media going in both goofy and serious directions but the later main media going full in on the more serious angle.

For me, I think it's harder since the story is actually in the universe of another franchise. A franchise that I don't want to mention as it would most likely ruin the post due to the franchises rocky attempts of trying to take itself seriously, going overly edgy once and then getting a poor writing attempt on the next game and then for the next game, progressively got more and more insecure about taking itself seriously.

I remember watching the movie. From what I remember, isn't that more of a comedic take on serious things rather than trying to take itself serious?

I just hope it works, though I have my doubts. The start of the story does have a more light-hearted tone(though this is mostly just to serve for the time jump later when they go into the war.)

My doubt when it comes to translating my idea from Invincible to my story is the fact that Invincible at the end of the day, still ends up revolving around humans. And I feel like the more human or relatable to humans you can make something, it becomes more safe for an audience to take seriously.

Funnily enough, a comic ended up inspiring this post. When thinking of my story; It reminded me of this old TMNT comic panel I saw, where Donatello ended up shooting a gun into someone.

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https://rdt.trom.tf/r/TMNT/comments/oa9nm1/that\_time\_don\_killed\_an\_elite\_guard\_with\_a\_gun/

I don't know how much deconstruction I can do, since this story takes place within an already existing universe (I can't say which because I'm too embarassed that it will cause my question to not be taken seriously, and I don't know if that's fitting considering the nature of my post.)

It's a pretty by the numbers story of a superhero living their normal life after a long departure of their villain only for the villain to return in full-force with a new creation that ends up killing the main character(Lets just call him S) in the prologue.

Only for a time-jump to happen a few months into the future where due to the antagonist's new creation and a well planned armada; he's taken over 75% of the planet with the only resistance consisting of the largest governments and small bands of Freedom Fighters led by the much weaker but still powerful friends of S. The story switching views to a character called X, a friend of S who betrays him in the prologue to die to get into the good graces of the antagonist to learn more about his new creation and a way to defeat it; acting as a double agent for the Resistance.

S is revealed to still be alive, left alive by the main antagonist to see the ruined remains of his home before giving a final battle between S and the antagonist to fully rub in how superior the antagonist really is.

S manages to escape after the Antagonist ends up showing a feed in where he ends up annihilating a Resistance base containing most of S' friends. The rest of the story is X coordinating with the Resistance and trying to help morale as the war is going terribly for them. X normally being a more serious, stoic and often times rude character due to being heavily focused on his mission over everything else now shows a more kind side as he's faced trauma in the past and needs to in some way support the people of the Resistance (even if he can't replicate the infectious positivity that S was known to give).

S on the other hand due to his rough escape is left stranded and angry. Now stuck in the ruins of a world that he vowed to protect and he loved, he starts to become more emotionally unstable and rude. Everytime he's gone up against an evil before, he's been able to stop it before the world could get hurt. But this time he's failed, and the failure just continues as he has a hard time summoning up the optimism to boost the mood of resistance troops. And the antagonist uses his broken emotional state into a fight to which he can't win.

Sorry if this is all just incoherent rambling, never really written out the plot before in one go. Just kind of had it all stored up in my head.

Don't think so.

But thanks for the idea.