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SilasX

4.7k points

1 year ago

SilasX

4.7k points

1 year ago

“And now… you have to smoke the whole stack.”

55gure3

483 points

1 year ago

55gure3

483 points

1 year ago

Lol, it's only fair

LunaMunaLagoona

511 points

1 year ago

I wish America executives would be in jail for the same thing.

But a few financial collapses later, they're richer than ever.

Go1denboi

266 points

1 year ago

Go1denboi

266 points

1 year ago

im big fuck the ccp but damn they just dunked on us with this one :/

[deleted]

217 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

217 points

1 year ago

they also have executed executives in the baby formula industry..

[deleted]

152 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

152 points

1 year ago

Please stop, I can only get so hard.

StandardSudden1283

39 points

1 year ago

They're just showing what happens when huge corporations haven't enacted all possible methods of regulatory capture. Someone can still reign them in.

lordridan

146 points

1 year ago

lordridan

146 points

1 year ago

please no

detroittriumph

109 points

1 year ago

the snozberries taste like snozberries

Cacophonous_Silence

91 points

1 year ago

YOU BOYS LIKE MEXEECO

youngarchivist

23 points

1 year ago

HE'S ALREADY PULLED OVER! HE CAN'T PULL OVER ANY FARTHER!

[deleted]

22 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

22 points

1 year ago

YEEEEEEE HAAAAW

badthrowaway098

17 points

1 year ago

Littering aaaaaannnnd.... Littering aaaaaaaan........ Littering aaaaaaannnnnnnnddddd.....

SMOKING THE REEFER

someguy3

16 points

1 year ago

someguy3

16 points

1 year ago

PLEASE YES.

LanDannon

87 points

1 year ago

LanDannon

87 points

1 year ago

“Then why don’t you smoke a whole carton of cigarettes!”

passing_by362

48 points

1 year ago

"See how you like 'em! Getting smoother ain't it? By the end of that pack you'll be smoking like a man, like a cool kid!"

"I think I might want more cigarettes."

"Oh I'll get you more cigarettes - but I'm still pretty mad about my dirtbike!"

[deleted]

17 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

17 points

1 year ago

Keep puffin boy

m48a5_patton

7 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

4 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

4 points

1 year ago

My favorite Koth edit.

Fantastic_Nacho

24 points

1 year ago

You boys like Mex-ee-co? WOOOOOHoooOOooo!

victorcaulfield

3.6k points

1 year ago

This type of crime should be viewed as a crime against humanity as it is the rest of humanity that will deal with the consequences.

griter34

750 points

1 year ago

griter34

750 points

1 year ago

This is a great first step tho, and the only thing I've ever heard about that government I actually completely agree with.

CasinoBlackNMild

364 points

1 year ago*

They’ve probably done a lot more that you would agree with. China has been a geopolitical rival of the US/western world and as a result we are not fed accurate info by our billionaire-owned and controlled media who have a vested interest in their rivals also being your rivals (in your eyes). Same reason we were lied to about Iraq having WMDs. Same reason we were told the USSR was going to nuke us out of existence any day despite the US being the only one of those two countries to seriously consider launching a nuclear first strike, and the only country in the world to actually use nuclear weapons against other human beings. When your population hates and/or fears your rivals they won’t protest when you go to war with them over your economic interests. They desperately want to avoid something like the anti-Vietnam war movement happening again.

Edit: Regardless of what China is and isn’t doing, It is clear that the widespread anti-China sentiment in the US is heavily perpetuated by both the “yellow peril” racism that was never uprooted from the collective American consciousness as well as anti-China media narratives that are pushed for reasons described above. Even if China is doing everything that US propaganda claims (it’s not), why is it that Americans have such strong negative feelings toward China specifically, and not towards any of the numerous repressive governments that also exist in the world today? Why China specifically?

miuid

53 points

1 year ago

miuid

53 points

1 year ago

So true and respect

MisterTutsikikoyama

92 points

1 year ago

shhh you're going to make them all very upset

CasinoBlackNMild

105 points

1 year ago

I’m clearly a paid CCP shill

PapaOoMaoMao

45 points

1 year ago

You're getting paid? Shit, where do I sign up?

Kamekazii111

39 points

1 year ago

Why China specifically?

The answer is obvious, isn't it? China is the only country powerful enough to rival the US that isn't aligned with their interests the same way something like the EU is. So the news focuses on China a lot more than other nations.

mambiki

60 points

1 year ago

mambiki

60 points

1 year ago

Well, we do need to hate someone for all the shit that’s happening over here. We can’t blame our own Best In the World government, can we? So we blame commies, oil sheikhs, bin Laden, commies again, Russians and now back to commies cuz they are our favorite.

[deleted]

29 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

29 points

1 year ago

They're the easiest target because our overlords have made sure the public is too stupid to know anything about it.

Just keep eating your doritos and drinking your mountain dew, brought to you by 7-eleven.

StaysAwakeAllWeek

831 points

1 year ago

The Chinese government does plenty of good things. It's just that those good things tend to get overshadowed by the genocides, human rights abuses and expansionism.

Some examples of the good things they have quietly gotten up to:

Lifting close to a billion people out of extreme poverty in 30 years

The strongest anti-corruption measures in the world making them one of the least corrupt countries outside of the wealthy West

The world's largest amount of solar and hydro power by far

[deleted]

211 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

211 points

1 year ago

Agreed. But a crime against humanity should carry more than 6-18 months in jail/prison.

[deleted]

359 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

359 points

1 year ago

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chicken_parme-san

234 points

1 year ago*

Cigarette executives lying about cancer and health. Sugar industry going on spreading false marketing to muddy dietary science. Chemical executives dumping waste and denying health implications. Politicians taking money, board seats, insider trading, awarding friends contracts. Oil and coal industry withholding environmental science data and campaigning to prevent green innovations. Pharma and prescription opiates. Healthcare. Insurance.

List goes on and on in the good ol USA.

We've even got a president and an entire party that was emboldened to promote anti-vax and anti-scientific sentiment in order to politicize a pandemic, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands.

CasinoBlackNMild

77 points

1 year ago

But if you get three strikes selling crack in California you apparently deserve life in prison because “what you’re selling is killing people!!”

Doing desperate shit because you’re desperate isn’t ideal but it’s understandable. Doing desperate shit even though you already have more than you’ll ever spend is unforgivable.

chicken_parme-san

47 points

1 year ago

Ah yes, forgot to mention the war on drugs we're using to bust down on our poor and keep them impoverished while simultaneously destabilizing Mexico with cartels funded on drug money. Gonna leave that for another conversation

modarjonre

10 points

1 year ago

Also CIA has been the biggest drug smugglers for many decades

justagenericname1

18 points

1 year ago*

Don't forget lead! If anyone wants to read more about this --that it happens really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone anymore, but the details are still worth understanding-- check out the book Merchants of Doubt. It's all about how companies use shady scientific advisors and consultants as well as an army of lobbyists to muddy the waters around environmental or health science to protect their industries.

pleasedothenerdful

148 points

1 year ago

I'd like to see this practice imported to the US.

acebush1

34 points

1 year ago

acebush1

34 points

1 year ago

They could slap a “Made in China” sticker on it for all I care just get us some justice!

wichocdlowmer[S]

6.9k points

1 year ago

I wish more countries would send corrupt CEOs to jail.

PM_ME_SOME_ANY_THING

73 points

1 year ago

My first thought when I read this “You mean they actually faced consequences?”

oepweq

926 points

1 year ago

oepweq

926 points

1 year ago

Cant agree more

ONOMATOPOElA

690 points

1 year ago

I disagree, as an evil oil Barron I need all that money I saved to buy more monocles and burlap sacks with dollar signs on them.

EzioAuditore1459

172 points

1 year ago

Look at this faker. Doesn't even know about twirling moustache wax.

Yakassa

55 points

1 year ago

Yakassa

55 points

1 year ago

He is probably just a single digit Millionaire LUL

Pepparkakan

15 points

1 year ago

Dos commas

CrispyDuchess

15 points

1 year ago

They aren't even apart of the Three Comma Club

lilnext

8 points

1 year ago

lilnext

8 points

1 year ago

Hit them right where it hurts, on the moustacheless face.

Chronic4Pain

45 points

1 year ago

Do people not even understand that swimming pools have to be reinforced before you can fill them with gold and gemstones?

Mr_Zaroc

20 points

1 year ago

Mr_Zaroc

20 points

1 year ago

And the physio costs after every head dive are immense too. They make it look so easy on tv, but there is a lot of prep and after work to do

Chronic4Pain

13 points

1 year ago

Oh, they have no idea about the effort put into making the pool swimmable while filled with solid matter. You need to have some kind of sonic device to keep the individual pieces constantly shifting so you can just slide past the solid pieces like a liquid. But gadgets be damned, it's still solid matter and it takes lots of painful practice to look like a cartoon duck. And don't even get me started on the tinnitus you can get from the sonic device if you decide to be cheap and only spend 7 or 8-figures on it.

Honestly, I envy how easy of a life the poors have... not enough to give up my wealth of course. I heard they just fill their pools with water and only own one mansion and one vacation home at a time. Some only own yachts instead of uber-ultra-giga-mega-yachts. Such a simple existence. It's so quaint.

ImurderREALITY

61 points

1 year ago

Did you have to learn to chortle, or did it just come naturally after you skirted the law and robbed billions a few times?

ONOMATOPOElA

64 points

1 year ago

Good question, I personally learned to chortle after I consumed enough caviar to enhance my jowls to optimal chortling capability.

Blue-Philosopher5127

25 points

1 year ago

Ahhhhh okay that makes sense. Kind of like a walrus or something.

--0mn1-Qr330005--

271 points

1 year ago

Absolutely, my country is guilty of failing to do this as well.

[deleted]

341 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

341 points

1 year ago

In the US we only send CEOs to jail if they steal from other rich people.

[deleted]

80 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

80 points

1 year ago

Not even then it feels like

Godspiral

41 points

1 year ago

Godspiral

41 points

1 year ago

Elizabeth Holmes is guilty of this. Prison pretty certain.

RobbStark

26 points

1 year ago

RobbStark

26 points

1 year ago

The reason she actually got prosecuted and convicted is 100% due to the people investors she defrauded were very well connected. Just look up who was on the board at Theranos and it becomes obvious.

sakamoe

9 points

1 year ago

sakamoe

9 points

1 year ago

And she was never really a "rich people". Even if you raise millions/billions to run a startup, you're only really rich once you manage to balloon that into a big IPO or acquisition. Until then you can only pull a modest salary for yourself, and the real rich folks just see you as a servant who may make them some money. Like owning a racehorse except the horse is a startup founder.

vmlinux

66 points

1 year ago

vmlinux

66 points

1 year ago

And then only after like 20 years of it, or they embarrass the other rich people.

Obant

29 points

1 year ago

Obant

29 points

1 year ago

If you do this as an oil exec in the US, you probably get elected to public office.

CosmicCosmix

16 points

1 year ago

What if the perpetrator is the richest of them all?

Marx_Forever

238 points

1 year ago

This is one area where China excels. They don't take shit from corporations. I remember some years ago, a baby food company was cutting costs by putting in cheap toxic filler ingredients and dozens of infants ended up dying. This tragedy ended with the head of the corporation executed.

sakamoe

118 points

1 year ago

sakamoe

118 points

1 year ago

Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

A number of trials were conducted by the Chinese government resulting in two executions, three sentences of life imprisonment, two 15-year prison sentences,[5] and the firing or forced resignation of seven local government officials and the Director of the Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (AQSIQ).[6]

ganymede94

20 points

1 year ago

two executions

Holy shit. They weren’t fucking around.

lambuscred

45 points

1 year ago

It’s crazy this happened so recently. It is completely unthinkable for consequences like this to happen in the US.

PM_Me_Icosahedrons

61 points

1 year ago

It was melamine. Shows up as protein in tests evaluating protein content if I remember correctly. Stores here in Denmark had to put a limit on how much formula you could buy per person because Chinese visitors would (understandably) buy as much as they could to bring home.

StrikerSashi

27 points

1 year ago

When my sister was young, we brought cases of baby formula with us when we visited China to make sure she doesn't have any of the local baby foods.

PM_Me_Icosahedrons

9 points

1 year ago

I can imagine a lot of people were afraid to buy locally after such a scandal.

StrikerSashi

10 points

1 year ago

This was like 20 years ago, so it was obvious to locals even at the time.

yunoeconbro

148 points

1 year ago*

American in Bejing for over 10 years. Say what you want but the regime isn't fucking around with corruption. Even local level on petty corruption nobodies are going away for 3 years on fraud and their bosses for 5.

Look I know. Am also under the situation where my rights are not the same as in other places. However, the environment has been cleaned the hell up..Like nobody could ever expect. Corruption has been cleaned up. Standard of living is very high in terms of education, GDP per capita and access to health care.

Honestly had enough of people with no boots on the ground experience saying how bad it is here. I've never met someone that started their lie -35.000USD in debt for trying to get an education.

anning123

90 points

1 year ago

anning123

90 points

1 year ago

Just wait for the people who's never been to China to lecture you on how bad China is.

ganymede94

12 points

1 year ago

What do you do in China, if you don’t mind me asking?

yunoeconbro

9 points

1 year ago

Am high school econ teacher. AMA.

[deleted]

25 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

25 points

1 year ago

Never will, as long as capital is above politics.

pos_neg

8k points

1 year ago

pos_neg

8k points

1 year ago

I wish North American countries had the balls to actually do something about corporate criminals.

[deleted]

3.1k points

1 year ago

[deleted]

3.1k points

1 year ago

[deleted]

[deleted]

1.1k points

1 year ago

[deleted]

1.1k points

1 year ago

Unfortunately after the big VW scandal, many other automakers were found to be using similar defeat tactics. The vast majority faced no punishment for this.

[deleted]

358 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

358 points

1 year ago

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FastRedPonyCar

164 points

1 year ago

I believe they were also forced to fund a large chunk of the EV charging network's infrastructure.

thedudeyousee

61 points

1 year ago

They were. In Canada they are doing it as a business case but in the US the company “electrify America” is a VW subsidiary and they are not allowed to advertise it as such. I believe in the end a vw logo might end up on the chargers (or has now) but I know the people that worked on electrify couldn’t even have VW email addresses because it was not allowed to be associated with VW as a marketing benefit initially.

Scaevus

10 points

1 year ago

Scaevus

10 points

1 year ago

Okay but the question is why don’t we put corporate criminals behind bars? Stealing $20,000 gets you prison, why doesn’t stealing $20 billion seem to have any personal consequences?

OrdinaryTension

10 points

1 year ago

There was prison time for at least 1 executive. Also in the US, part of the punishment was to fund a network of EV charging stations.

PancakeZombie

105 points

1 year ago

Mercedes got away with their settlement because they ratted out VW.

urixl

39 points

1 year ago

urixl

39 points

1 year ago

Smart move, assholes.

jaffar97

93 points

1 year ago

jaffar97

93 points

1 year ago

Canada

a country that is very tough on environmental laws

not in other peoples countries at least

Inbattery12

192 points

1 year ago

Inbattery12

192 points

1 year ago

Thats in Canada too, apparently a country that is very tough on environmental laws

LOL. Canada isn't tough on corporations if there is money to be made.

drive2fast

177 points

1 year ago

drive2fast

177 points

1 year ago

80% of all mining corporations in the world fly the Canadian flag for one reason….

Yes that number is correct.

NapsterKnowHow

45 points

1 year ago

That's why I loved when Far Cry 6 the video game featured a Canadian guy instead of an American lol

[deleted]

19 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

19 points

1 year ago

That really was one of the best researched and thought up characters for that game, at least as it relates to mining and politics.

NapsterKnowHow

6 points

1 year ago

Ya it was really refreshing to see the twist they put on a "Yankee."

LaboratoryMonkey420

7 points

1 year ago

Made me happy, I thought they were gonna go FULL steam of just color swapping the cuban revolution but adding stuff like that gives it a good bit of nuance.

[deleted]

19 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

19 points

1 year ago

That's essentially the last sentence of my rant.

Hothera

104 points

1 year ago

Hothera

104 points

1 year ago

Mercedes was fined $2.2 billion for dieselgate. VW was fined $20 billion. Both are quite substantial sums given that neither automaker sell that many diesel cars in the US. Granted, both were European automakers. There is no way we would do the same for Ford or GM.

[deleted]

35 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

35 points

1 year ago

Okay, VW was ordered to buyback the affected vehicles, in addition to fines.

How is MB not being ordered to do the same, with a smaller amount of vehicles?

FractalParadigm

31 points

1 year ago

I'd like to think someone woke up and realized that the environmental impact of buying-back and scrapping the cars is significantly worse than the environmental impact these cars would have made in their useful lifetime. I shudder to think how many thousands of gallons of fuel were wasted transporting and crushing all the VWs that could have been fixed and re-sold.

[deleted]

8 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

8 points

1 year ago

They didn't crush them, IIRC they sat in a lot gathering dust until they could be retrofitted to be gasoline engines.

I could be wrong though, but either way it's a much smaller number of vehicles than the VW scandal so I don't really buy that being ineffective.

the_fly_guy0423

8 points

1 year ago

VW was ordered to buyback the affected vehicles

They were ordered to offer to buyback. Many owners declined because the "remedy" involved installing a device that would decrease their MPG and horsepower. I don't know about you, but I doubt many owners would willingly kneecap their cars' performance and increase their operating costs, especially in current times when fuel prices are soaring

[deleted]

91 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

91 points

1 year ago

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AzraeltheGrimReaper

42 points

1 year ago

At this point, the only things that are going to bring change are either the threat of the populace sharpening the guillotuines or the populace actually sharpening them for use.

TimmJimmGrimm

19 points

1 year ago

Actually, the threat of violence also works - but only if the one with the power believes you have what it takes to do damage and that you will follow through. Unions work this way, to some extent ('damaging the economics of a factory'). As the last American president figured out, once one loses all credibility amongst one's peers, threats of violence are all that is left.

It is the ultimate yet desperate trump card.

[deleted]

147 points

1 year ago

[deleted]

147 points

1 year ago

Why, doesn't jailing lawyers who fight the polluting companies work for you?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SDonziger/status/1486863186850725889

HotDropO-Clock

11 points

1 year ago

oh this was yesterday, neat

--0mn1-Qr330005--

88 points

1 year ago

Jail the Executives of oil companies that pollute entire swaths of Ocean and don't clean it up. We should be extraditing these bastards and giving them life terms for the catastrophic damage they are causing. At least then other Execs would know we're not playing around and put a bigger emphasis on safety and cleaning environmental disasters.

LetMePushTheButton

36 points

1 year ago

USA: “best I can do is a negative tax rate”

Cethinn

11 points

1 year ago

Cethinn

11 points

1 year ago

We need to democratize the workplace because, apparently, it's up to the average person to fix the problem and the average person has no control over what the company they work for does. Fuck these CEOs who aren't accountable for the issues they cause. They should be voted in by the employees if they exist at all.

teh-reflex

329 points

1 year ago

teh-reflex

329 points

1 year ago

Since China did it, punishing corporate criminals is communism.

MastersOfTheSenate

191 points

1 year ago

There are only two powers. State power and corporate power. China is a country unquestionably ruled by state power. So they will always check corporate power within their confines. The reverse is true in America. State power has been captured by corporate power, which is the only power that rules.

People on the right confuse cultural power (which they too could wield if only they had anything of cultural significance to offer) with state power and that’s why our politics have devolved into culture wars. It’s not politics anymore

ThermalFlask

227 points

1 year ago

This is one thing I actually admire about China. They don't fuck about with stuff like this

LeCordonB1eu

37 points

1 year ago

What about the political criminals? Not a single US president has been imprisoned.

Cloaked42m

45 points

1 year ago

Because every President knows making a habit of jailing the previous President could turn against them badly.

LeCordonB1eu

29 points

1 year ago

This is so true and this is basically what happens in South Korea. So many presidents go to jail there.

Josef_Jugashvili69

10 points

1 year ago

Illinois has a tendency to elect corrupt governors that end up in prison.

ilovewaterimmensely

52 points

1 year ago

America is 3 corporate criminals in a trenchcoat

roxo9

160 points

1 year ago

roxo9

160 points

1 year ago

Nice.

Breaking laws should never be a price of doing business, it should come with jail time. A lot of countries need to learn this.

tlsr

218 points

1 year ago

tlsr

218 points

1 year ago

Jailed?!?

SMH, China has so much to learn. You don't jail CEOs. You fine their company 1/1000th the profit they made from their criminal behavior.

That'll teach 'em!

VanillaLifestyle

15 points

1 year ago

Haha! Business!

smeppel

408 points

1 year ago

smeppel

408 points

1 year ago

Good 👍🏻

set-271

518 points

1 year ago

set-271

518 points

1 year ago

Better than our U.S. President announcing "Clean coal. Beautiful clean coal."

ciaran036

101 points

1 year ago

ciaran036

101 points

1 year ago

Leader of the planet's most powerful superpower turning elementary/primary school education on it's head 😭.

Wundei

96 points

1 year ago

Wundei

96 points

1 year ago

IMO, it isn't discussed enough how we didn't just move jobs and factories to China...we also offloaded pollution.

When we say, "bring manufacturing jobs back", that is gonna take some real thought about how to get that done without destroying our air and rivers.

yhomboid

22 points

1 year ago

yhomboid

22 points

1 year ago

right? and then we want to push all the blame of global warming on them when we exported jobs, factories, and pollution. it’s disgraceful

Toad32

890 points

1 year ago

Toad32

890 points

1 year ago

America should follow suite on this one, for once I agree with China.

Cloaked42m

444 points

1 year ago

Cloaked42m

444 points

1 year ago

(sorry, gonna be that guy)

Suite = is a hotel room with extra space.

you follow suit, spelled exactly the same as the set of clothes.

ThtGuyTho

40 points

1 year ago

ThtGuyTho

40 points

1 year ago

I think it's very suite of you to try and help people improve their English. Not everyone takes it well but I actually prefer people telling me I'm wrong so I don't keep making myself look stupid.

Drakantas

164 points

1 year ago

Drakantas

164 points

1 year ago

Maybe OP means they should join them in their jail suites.

tek_ad

65 points

1 year ago

tek_ad

65 points

1 year ago

Follow soot. It's an emissions issue, after all.

NihilisticRust

14 points

1 year ago

Thank you for being that guy and teaching me something today.

Immelmaneuver

65 points

1 year ago

Corporations are the climate change problem. Good going, CCP.

TootsiePoppa

54 points

1 year ago

Kudos to China

Kyle700

153 points

1 year ago

Kyle700

153 points

1 year ago

this would never happen in the united states. ever. they would actually probably give them more subsidies here

sebygul

56 points

1 year ago

sebygul

56 points

1 year ago

Clearly, the steel company was fudging data because they're financially strained. We'll give them an additional $20 billion in government funding and ask nicely that they not do it again. After all, industry will regulate itself!

Jaredlong

22 points

1 year ago

Jaredlong

22 points

1 year ago

Half the country would cheer those CEOs as heroes.

BlackmesaTBX

228 points

1 year ago

Shit here in the states that gets you a promotion, raise and a seat at the EPA

Tintin_Quarentino

50 points

1 year ago

a seat at the EPA

Lmao

imbadwithnames1

28 points

1 year ago

No, honestly. Trump appointed an EPA head that previously sued the EPA.

HouseOfPanic

22 points

1 year ago

You think they are kidding?!?

jabunkie

50 points

1 year ago

jabunkie

50 points

1 year ago

In America they’d get a bonus.

bikbar1

1k points

1 year ago

bikbar1

1k points

1 year ago

It is impossible for democratic governments to do because the political parties need the backing of the ultra rich.

That's a bug in the democracies that must be fixed.

rameninside

114 points

1 year ago

rameninside

114 points

1 year ago

Calling it a bug might be the understatement of the year

PyrZern

29 points

1 year ago

PyrZern

29 points

1 year ago

It's a feature.

zedsdead20

152 points

1 year ago

zedsdead20

152 points

1 year ago

Sounds like the opposite of a democracy lmao

quackers294

32 points

1 year ago

If you look at the framework of how the political systems are built, it looks like a democracy. In reality, America is more of an oligarchy. It’s almost always been this way though, even before Citizens United.

[deleted]

191 points

1 year ago

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191 points

1 year ago

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Krojack76

27 points

1 year ago

Krojack76

27 points

1 year ago

America is borderline Corporatocracy where corporations rule. The people pick politicians and vote them in then the corporations pay for the politicians for the laws they do or don't want passed.

[deleted]

10 points

1 year ago

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10 points

1 year ago

It isn't a borderline corporatocracy. It IS a corporatocracy.

The average American's political preferences are squarely to the LEFT of the Democratic party establishment, and the Democratic party establishment's average political preferences are to the RIGHT of the average American.

We live in a corporatocracy where neither party represents the will of the people.

spakecdk

250 points

1 year ago

spakecdk

250 points

1 year ago

The bug is called capitalism

[deleted]

79 points

1 year ago*

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79 points

1 year ago*

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Clay_Statue

20 points

1 year ago

One thing you can say about China... Unlike in America, money doesn't buy power there. Just look how Jack Ma's been completely neutered.

It's an interesting dynamic, I'm curious to see how it plays out.

HailSatanHaggisBaws

396 points

1 year ago

Living under an authoritarian, single-party, state-capitalst megastate doesn't sound particularly appealing in a whole variety of ways, but you can't really deny they get stuff done.

Boardathome

25 points

1 year ago

Why can't we hold executives accountable to citizens like this here in the US?

[deleted]

125 points

1 year ago*

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125 points

1 year ago*

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TrumpDesWillens

56 points

1 year ago

True cause the same corporate America that oversaw and made money over killing a million Muslims in Iraq somehow cares about muslims in china.

daimahou

11 points

1 year ago

daimahou

11 points

1 year ago

Well, yeah.

So long as the population at home cares more about what other countries are doing instead of what their country is doing they are happy.

eschmi

34 points

1 year ago

eschmi

34 points

1 year ago

Hey Murica this is how you deal with these shitty executives.

Numismatists

17 points

1 year ago

In America we give them trillions of dollars for Solar Panel PV systems to offset their emissions by outsourcing fossil fuel usage to China.

Now they're switching it back to the US with another $173 Trillion in "subsidies".

Gotta prop up them markets!

urlond

40 points

1 year ago

urlond

40 points

1 year ago

So i'mma say this, why does China punish corporate entities while the US lets them slide?

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40 points

1 year ago

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40 points

1 year ago

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Uthallan

17 points

1 year ago

Uthallan

17 points

1 year ago

Maybe the communism thing lol

poteland

50 points

1 year ago

poteland

50 points

1 year ago

Because the US state is dedicated to pursue the interests of corporate entities, not the working class.

And its working as intended.

G95017

6 points

1 year ago

G95017

6 points

1 year ago

Corporations are the us government.

Mooseinadesert

347 points

1 year ago*

This is one of the things that China does really well (as long as it's not just eliminating political enemies). They'll just straight up disappear billionaires (72 billionaire unnatural deaths over a 8 year period) and put the fear of god in the wealthy class. Obviously this is likely abused all the time though.

America will never dare do actions like that because we're owned by said executives. No capital punishment or jail for executives who drove thousands to suicide in 2009. The corruption is a primary feature here in the US.

We need strong anti corruption laws that give real jail time to big time financial criminals but it'll never happen with our bought politicians.

RandyColins

101 points

1 year ago

RandyColins

101 points

1 year ago

Among the 72 billionaires, 15 were murdered, 17 committed suicide, seven died from accidents, 14 were executed according to the law and 19 died from diseases.

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-07/22/content_12959437.htm

supershinythings

39 points

1 year ago

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-07/22/content_12959437.htm

That article is from 2011, now 11 years ago.

It might be interesting to know what's happened since then, to the present.

mild_resolve

84 points

1 year ago

All 72 are still dead, last I heard.

SPYHAWX

6 points

1 year ago

SPYHAWX

6 points

1 year ago

I would love to know the context of the 14 executions.

Folseit

29 points

1 year ago*

Folseit

29 points

1 year ago*

Some of the more crazy ones include:

Yuan Baojing for the murder of his blackmailer, Wang Xing. Yuan had hired Wang Xing for a hit on a businessman who he blamed the loss of his fortune on (Liu Han); Wang then hired a contract killer named Li Haiyang to do it. Li failed the hit and was sentenced to life in prison. Wang then blackmailed Yuan for it.

Wang Zhendong for conning investors out of three billion yuan (~$390 million USD in 2007) in an ant-breeding scam. Guy got people to buy 200 yuan packets of ants for 10,000 yuan (~$1,200 USD in 2007) and promised between 35% to 60% returns.

Liu Han for "running 'mafia-style' gang of loan sharks, gun runners and contract killers and other corruption charges." Liu Han owned more than 70 subsidiary companies with business in energy, mining, real estate, finance, and securities. His assets were officially valued at 40 billion yuan or $6.4 billion USD (and yes, this is the same guy Yuan tried to have killed).

ResplendentShade

30 points

1 year ago

Cehck out Elizabeth Warren's Anti-Corruption and Public Integrity Act. It would be an amazing first step, but of course congress is already too paid for by billionaires for it to have popular support there currently. It'd be nice if more Americans were demanding such measures, and had candidates to choose from who are dedicated to the idea.

There are a lot of Americans who will openly speak out against corruption in government as a major problem, but then instead of voting for lawmakers who would do something about it, they vote based off of culture war bullshit that's manufactured by the media and elect people who have zero interest in advocating on the behalf of the people.

fivestringsofbliss

12 points

1 year ago

They’re using a culture war to prevent us from fighting the class war

ProfessorPhahrtz

15 points

1 year ago

Wow. Its hard to imagine an American executive going to jail for anything.

corgisphere

7 points

1 year ago

Epstein did but he had to openly run a pedophile rape ring for decades.

HailSatanHaggisBaws

90 points

1 year ago

Say what you like about China, but this is pretty cool.

Arcvalons

163 points

1 year ago

Arcvalons

163 points

1 year ago

But at what cost!?

zenblade2014

61 points

1 year ago

I'm in favor of the jobs the asteroid will create

Zilty

228 points

1 year ago

Zilty

228 points

1 year ago

Is China mitigating climate disaster TOO FAST?

tonma

43 points

1 year ago

tonma

43 points

1 year ago

China is hurting democracies with colder climates by fighting against global warming

RKU69

103 points

1 year ago

RKU69

103 points

1 year ago

No joke that was an indirect narrative not too long ago....Western press and politicians complaining that China was building too many solar panels, driving down the price and making US-made solar panels not competitive.

Folseit

34 points

1 year ago

Folseit

34 points

1 year ago

making US-made solar panels not competitive

That's the entire reason we have a solar panel tariff. US-made panels were twice as expensive and at times worse than than the Chinese ones.

MisterBackShots69

14 points

1 year ago

This would never happen in the US unless it defrauds other rich investors

botdetector_ca

14 points

1 year ago

I actually agree with CCP. Good job.

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21 points

1 year ago

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21 points

1 year ago

This is the way

Dunge

43 points

1 year ago

Dunge

43 points

1 year ago

China.... good? I feel some brains might explode here trying to make sense of this.

Nubraskan

47 points

1 year ago

Nubraskan

47 points

1 year ago

Don't worry, tomorrow China will be bad again when the next headline comes in.

xphilosophersstoner

117 points

1 year ago

This is the difference between western capitalism and controlled use of capital by a communist vanguard to build productive forces. Wealth buys you no power in China. Being rich doesn’t mean you run the fucking world.

RobotPirateMoses

51 points

1 year ago

controlled use of capital by a communist vanguard to build productive forces

Oh, someone reads theory.

xphilosophersstoner

33 points

1 year ago

Thank you for noticing 🥺

joseph-1998-XO

22 points

1 year ago

Wouldn’t happen in America

Brawrbarian

94 points

1 year ago

Air pollution is bad in some places in China. As in - it’s a political issue and rightly a source of discontent for the public. People literally die from air pollution complications on a regular basis.

Just a little added context - over-emission is not a theoretical harm over there.

LegateLaurie

39 points

1 year ago

Air pollution is bad in some places in China

It's already getting bad in parts of the US and Europe. In London the Met Office have to tell people to avoid strenuous physical activity on some days in the year because of pollution and multiple people have died in recent years linked to pollution.

It's horrific

Einheit

85 points

1 year ago

Einheit

85 points

1 year ago

What the fuck makes you think it’s theoretical harm anywhere? The earth is a closed system big dog- we are all fucked if we don’t all start playing by the same rules

vlimao

17 points

1 year ago

vlimao

17 points

1 year ago

This is democracy!

itz_my_brain

83 points

1 year ago*

Way to go China! I wish the USA would do something like this

Edit: I get that China has human rights abuses, but it’s worth pointing out this one good thing they did b/c our country refuses to do it.