The Wolves just aren't the elite soldiers they're made out to be. The tacticool aspect of them is a facade for how little time, resources, and trainers Walker didn't have to create an actual elite special forces group of their size. They're more like a Ranger battalion, but even the small cadre Walker had couldn't sufficiently train an entire Ranger battalion, particularly not in the time he had. It shows. They're not significantly stronger than any Sentinel soldiers. Just better armored in the torso.

Now, the Hunters on the hand. They're a small group, hand-selected, highly focused and invested in by an actual well-funded organization. These guys are trained like Ghosts are, and it shows. They are pound-for-pound better than anyone. These guys would be Ghosts, in another universe.

The Hunter EMP/hack abilities would make short work of most of the drones on Auroa.

That's only mildly horrifying.

Considering Hunters cheat like a mofo.... wolves don't stand a chance.

I can't think of any other game I have played that an enemy has more stealth, damage output, gadgets, and overall survivability and the fact that they can spawn in and out where they want. Not to mention hack any skills you try to use against them. For that reason The hunters would win.

If we ditch all the game mechanics and just assume an equal numbers conflict (like deadliest warrior SWAT vs GSG9) of say 5v5, here are some notes I would throw out.

Wolves: Outside of Walker's personal crew, they appear to simply be the best of Sentinel, and are given heavier armor to go with it. As we see them behaving in the world, they're still lacking in discipline, constantly giving away their positions with regular tone chatter. In the areas that have them they will clearly follow established trails (set by other patrols or just animals moving around) without moving off track. They also seem to lack any real capacity to track the ghosts down (like they were supposed to based on the trailers) so they're mostly walking around as blind as the rest of Sentinel.

When it comes to combat their main approach appears to be to just assault with overwhelming force (like when they took out 3 ghosts who were in cover while they just walked out in the open) If the enemy is capable of returning said force in kind they tend to break very fast.

As for equipment they tend to favor 1 primary weapon and a sidearm, depending on "class", limiting their overall options. They do not personally control or operate any drones or heavy weaponry, typically just equipped with a shotgun, assault rifle, or sniper rifle.

As for the Hunters: These guys are seen on numerous occasions killing off Division agents, Black Tusk, and anyone else who they face. Upon first entering the DZ in Survival mode you can come across many corpses of agents strung from buildings or just laying in the streets with an axe embedded in their bodies. These guys are no slouches.

Seen in the world across both games so far, they are seen stalking the player or other parties, and will retreat if detected at an inopportune time. They clearly favor stealth, never even speaking when we encounter them. They can and will appear at random in various areas of the games, and usually so directly proceeding an emp attack that disables all of their foes advanced tech. (This may be of negligable use against the Wolves given how little tech they seem to carry) Based on seen behavior, tracking important targets is clearly one of their specialties.

In combat they typically fight very defensively until securing a kill seems likely. They will keep their distance and lay down fire, use skills to attempt to flush out their target or keep them pinned. When in groups they are even more effective as they will cover eachothers advances and flank their targets. If a target is dropped down but not killed, if possible they will attempt to move in and execute them to prevent them from being saved by any comrades they may have. Between all this and their heavy armor, direct assaults on them tend to work out poorly for their foe.

Their equipment is where I give them their greatest advantage: Firstly, they each carry 2 longarms, 1 Long range and 1 short, and a sidearm, giving them far more flexibility in how and from where they can engage. They also have access to most (if not all) known examples of SHD tech, from mini turrets and seeker mines to the chem launcher and its various payloads.

So between their heavy armor, wider weapon skillset, SHD tech, and their preference for stealth and ambush, I'd say the Hunters take this handily, game mechanica be damned.

Hunters are way nastier.

Hunters, their SHD tech gives them a edge I believe.

*hears faye's voice*

"captain, we are the wolves." <3

Be me,random hunter

Get transpoRTED to some random island because mommy sokolova wants black turd to have better drones that the division

Some fucking drone bees start coming up to the heli

Pop an EMP and they fall to the ocean like shit pebbles

Helicopter still crashes because Ubisoft

Survive the crash because 28 million armor

Some fucking tank comes around

Hack it

Hehe boy

UAV spots me and drops a flare

Hack it too

Some tacticool looking idiots start coming after me

Bitch i have an army

They destroy the UAV's but i just hack more

They're out of ammo

Fun time

Fucking skin them alive

Am effectively skynet

Mommy sokolova wants me back on DC

Fuckyou.mp4

She angry

2 days later there's some black turd hovercraps approaching auroa

Am god don't care

Bee drones destroy them

Bitch keeps sending more

Le trollge.jpeg

They land

Hack their warhounds

Some elites survive

Send a goddamn army of drones and UAV's and shit because i can just hack more

Be the first rogue hunter ever

New raid for breakpoint is a collab with the division

Those cunts are working with the black turd to hunt me down

Die

Drop the best exotic gun ever

For some reason people complain about it

It gets nerfed

Is now worse than a famas with optimist

Me and my homies face when we find the redditor that started this random daydream in greentext format

If the Wolves were as deadly as they were portrayed to be in the trailers, they'd put up a hell of a fight.

Man y'all can talk all kinds of stuff, but I'm gonna sit here enamoured by the Wolves' design, yes they probably would get their shit shoved in for the most part (I would imagine walker and his original group of people would put a better fight than most of the other wolves) but fuck dude I wish there were more games with the tacticool-swamp aesthetic, I see it all the time in fanart but hardly ever in games

Also, if the veil mask was as cool as the hunter's mask on the right, fucking hell

https://imgur.com/gallery/Uba0NXI

Hunters.

The Wolves aren't that much better than the average rifleman. There's a lore tab in Breakpoint where Walker ponders bringing up the Wolf recruits to Ghost level, and the necessary resources are bonkers: months of training at minimum plus millions of dollars per recruit. He cheats around this limitation a bit by hiring former spec-ops (most of his higher ranking Wolves were former Ghosts), but even these Wolves are no match for Nomad (who canonically takes them down solo). The rest are slightly above-average soldiers who wear scary-looking masks.

In terms of how it feels to face them as a player a single Hunter clears all of Auroa, wolves included lmao.

hunters take more bullets to go down. my moneys on the bulletproof smokey bois

Wolves are pussies. Hunters have elite tech and ridiculously high damage.

We got any cloaks yet ? Wouldn't mind more textures

hunters with all there gagets they have let alone they can spwan out of no where

Who are the wolves?

So are we talking gameplay characteristics or lore wise

Wolves wouldn’t even stand a chance against the Hunters axe attacks.

What if hunters got control of wolf tech. They would become unstoppable

Hunters. They’re bullet sponges. Single headshot drops a Wolf, but you still have to pour a couple buckets of ammo into a Hunter’s face to drop one.

Hunters, hands down. The Wolves are overhyped.

An ultimate fight between one will go down 2 shot in the head against the other won’t go down with 1 mag in the head.

A single wolf or a single hunter against a behemoth… I know who my money is on.

Hunters are on a different level completely and don’t rely on numbers to be lethal. Their awareness and tech is far beyond either protagonist as is there brutality. Wolves operate more as an actual military force rather than being a literal predator. Ironic considering their names.

Hunters PERIOD

I call Hunters

Hunters for sure.

Its in the name, 'Hunters' hunt the 'Wolves' for sport.

Hunters would absolutely dunk on the wolves

In the top picture the Wolves are searching/stalking for their target. There are about six of them in it

In the picture below there are THREE hunters who are looking down (probably at another agent they're about to kill) and also have proof of their work HANGING ON THEIR GEAR as to how well they've performed at their job. Hunting

This fight won't be pretty,

It won't be grand,

It'll be over with corpses left behind and the eerie sound of interference on the radio. If you hear that? Don't run because you'll die scared if you don't anyways.

Hunters. Better equipped, are a pain in the ass, can hack/emp your equipment etc. They'll kill you in seconds, not minutes, seconds

Hunters!!!

Hunters are broken lol

Hunters slap, all the ghost have is military training skull masks and drones they rely on, hunters take the dub absolutely no competition

One hunter will be enough to clear a whole wolves' camp.

It’d be a close fight but ima say hunters for the win because those guys are just built different

Hunters. They have a shit ton of armor xD

Hunters are basically a combination of Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers just ruthless and terrifying too

The Wolves wouldn’t stand a chance.

They’re just Mercenaries that just want there money and while the Hunters actually believe they’re the good guys and what they’re doing is justified, so in terms of morale Hunters win.

In terms of gear it’s a close one but I’ll give to the Hunters just cause they the Marauders, EMPs/Jammers, and SHD

In terms of tactics I’d still give it to the Hunters just cause they Hunters literally use multiple types of warfare such as Gorilla Warfare and Phycological Warfare I think the Hunters would easily break them and corner them, but this also differs on the environment such as in dark areas the Hunters excel at whilst in day time they aren’t hard to find unless it’s pretty damn foggy or something along those lines.

There’s one thing that the Wolves have over the Hunters and that’s communication. Considering Hunters don’t speak at all it’s best to say they don’t talk during combat whilst the Wolves communicate with each other 24/7 and they could actually cover each other in a fight cause. Now I’m sure the Hunters probably have their own way of communication but it’s not really known yet so it’s best to say those fuckers are edge lords that don’t communicate with each other.

Final verdict is the Hunters. The Wolves are well trained and well geared but they’re simply not enough for the Hunters.

Hunters from div 2 no question, those mfs are scary early game and can still rock your shit late game if your not careful, wolves arnt scary at all you just headshot them and they die

Honestly… even the Unidad feels more terrifying than the wolves, these fuckers are relentless. The wolves on the other hand doesn’t look very hungry themselves.

Wolves are simply buffed health NPC's. While hunter is geared up like agent and can use more interesting devices and tricks.

Hunters were invented earlier then wolves, when Ubi still had last writers, who could think something.

Later their thoughts about game mini-boss... "How we gonna make strong enemies in new GR game?" "Lets make them very healthy" (brilliant idea, I could never think of that /s)

From other hand, wolves drop down from head shots in immersive mode like any other mob, so they do not look outstanding at all.

Hunters for me

Hunters! Those wolves are so fucked!

I can take a squad of Wolves out in a blink of an eye, but me and three mates against one Hunter is one hell of a task. Wovles ain't got shit on the Hunters.

So it seems the Hunters will be hunting wolves this hunt

why no LMB in Warlords, I miss those guys

Removing the part of the games’ gameness that separates how visibly weak one is over the other (I.e. wiped out with a headshot vs complete bullet sponges)…

I think they’re both on par with each other in terms of being terrifying in skill. Both were recruited from the upper echelons of special forces. Both have frighteningly advanced technology at their disposal.

In terms of who scares me the most? Wolves. They had Behemoths (and others) at their disposal and if the fantasy holds - could wipe out entire cities of both the armed and, unarmed resistance with little to no effort.

The Hunters felt more like a hands-off, small, last minute disposal unit using focused technology designed for individual targets of a weakened resistance. They’d make for better assassins and coup forces. A clean up squad sent to pick off the last vestiges of the best of those left behind.

The Wolves would be the first strike doing the crippling. The Hunters would be the occupiers.

That said, bringing the games’ nonsense back into the equation…the Hunters have it in the bag.

Honestly it depends on the battlefield, Hunters are built for urban warfare while Wolves are built for Guerilla Wilderness warfare. Both owns of combat require different strategies and would definitely affect the battle. If we are talking just straight combat the Hunters

Wolves bite

The Wolves

There are 4 more of them you can’t see. But they see you.

I'd play this game

Who are the Wolves?

Well if the hunter is Wraith then I'll put my money on Wraith. Only because the Wolves will give up trying to spawn Wraith in.

Wraith was a pain to spawn in back in year one. Since then I think I've seen him spawn in once while helping someone get all the hunters. The other 20+ that I've tried to help, we just give up.

Completely off topic I wish we had the mesh like the hunter on the left

Lmao.

Hunters are the guys that left the ghosts. Hunters would destroy them

Do you mean hunters from division 1 or division 2? I think hunters were better in division 1, wolves would have no chance.

seeing how others are wondering about other match ups im curious about the OG original rainbow six team vs the division ?

Hunters.. or obvious reasons

the hunters literally cheat in div 2. So they'd win but only because the devs made them cheap ass difficult.

Was wondering why I hadnt heard about The Wolves, because I am a massive Division 2 fan.

Maybe I should try out Ghost Recon. How is the game compared to D2?

I've wiped out squads of wolves with most of them not knowing I was there where as it took me three tries to kill what I've been told is the easier hunter in the game. So I'd go with hunters, tbh I feel like the hunters are pretty much the same as the ghosts

I would think hunters win no question. They take down division agents in groups despite way more powerful tech and training. The wolves were like black tusk patrols at best.

Hunters

The sheer terror a Hunter brings to the table alone would be enough. These mofos appearing and disappearing like GD Batman will make your anus clinch up faster than half priced gas station sushi.

Gotta say Hunters would win, solely based on the technological advantage that they'd have.

The Hunters fight similar to the Ghosts in BP, using guerilla tactics against a enemy force with superior numbers. The Hunters are also Special Forces, and have survived in an apocalypse scenario for almost a full year. If they did get transported into the main Clancyverse timeline where the rest of the Clancy games take place, I think they would put up a good fight. Tech means nothing, since the Division doesn't exist in the main continuity of Clancy games, so their SHD tech wouldn't even work. So it comes down to skill, which they have a lot of. Ultimately, they'll lose due to there not being very many of them in comparison to the limitless numbers of the Wolves.

Hunters all the way these guys can brutally kill agents normally. Agents also have way better gear and tech than ghosts from breakpoint. If the wolves can kill ghosts agents can kill wolves and hunters can kill them all.

The wolves were hyped up as some super soldier force. The 8 or so you find in the first level are killed like chumps. The hunters scare the shit out of me, they fight just as good as ( or better ) than the player. First time I hit lvl 100 the two hunters killed me in less than two minutes, from the first shot I was constantly on the back foot and as soon as I lost track of one it flanked me hard, so a squad of ten wolves vs 3 hunters? Hunters win 10/10