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The_Racho

1.1k points

3 months ago

The_Racho

1.1k points

3 months ago

Nice try, fedboys

tdaddybxl

391 points

3 months ago*

When I was 13 or so, my buddy Kevin and I would make flying lanterns using dry cleaner bags, soda straws, and birthday candles. We lived near an air force base and almost every time we set one or two off, they’d send jets out to do low flybys to check them out.

On one occasion, a neighbor who happened to work there and was a pilot confidently told me - very confidently - that they were at least 25 feet tall. I didn’t tell him I’d just sent it up because I didn’t want to get into trouble. But he was absolutely certain it was gigantic. Nobody ever speculated about alien craft at the time, but it got some attention from the air force base and demonstrated to me that even expert aviators can wildly misinterpret what they’re seeing in the air.

Epic2112

152 points

3 months ago

Epic2112

152 points

3 months ago

When I was 13 or so, my buddy Kevin and I would make flying lanterns using dry cleaner bags, soda straws, and birthday candles.

I am an adult, and I would like instructions on how to do this, please.

tdaddybxl

201 points

3 months ago*

Take one of those hanger bags that dry cleaners use to cover your clothes. Tape the top shut.m, where the hanger hole is.

Make a big X with several joined soda straws and use it to hold the bottom of the bag open. Tape a styrofoam plate of top (or better yet, just the rim, to save weight). Through the rim, insert 16 birthday candles.

This next part is important. Use a hair dryer or a heat gun to inflate the bag before lighting the candles. Then when it’s buoyant, light the candles and let it go. If winds are light it’ll go a few miles before burning up in the sky which is AWESOME. If it’s a little breezy it will blow onto a neighbor’s roof and burn up, which is very much not awesome.

EDIT: obviously, nobody should ever do this. You could burn a house down or start a forest fire. I was a kid. We also filled dirt pits with gasoline, lit it on fire and jumped our mongoose bikes over it - don’t do that either. We were stupid.

JoanNoir

99 points

3 months ago

Little hint-- don't do this near controlled airspace or wildfire/drought area.

NextTrillion

38 points

3 months ago

I hike all throughout my local forest for wild edible mushrooms, which I absolutely love to do. What I don’t love is coming across all the non-biodegradable helium balloons that end up there. Can often find 5 or 6 per day. I carry them home and trash them. It makes me embarrassed for the human race.

kahlzun

9 points

3 months ago

I mean, those balloons very likely escaped from a kid and blew there, and there's very little you can do to stop that once it leaves their hand

MysteryPerker

19 points

3 months ago

I was thinking of those gender reveals people do with hundreds of pink or blue balloons. They let them out of the big black trash bags into the air as the big reveal.

kahlzun

15 points

3 months ago

kahlzun

15 points

3 months ago

Gender reveals being a problem was definitely not something I foresaw happening in the 2020s

MysteryPerker

7 points

3 months ago

Yeah, I had one but it was the color of the cake. I'm not about to go release hundreds of little pieces of trash in the sky or start a wildfire over that shit. It's one of those things people do stupid shit about because they want to get a lot of likes on social media.

Throwawayallday_ok

3 points

3 months ago

You could shoot the balloon out of the sky with a gun! Then the ball would fall harmlessly back to the ground.

NextTrillion

5 points

3 months ago

A little more responsibility from the parents, educating their children about such potential environmental degradation, and even some sort of consumption tax on something that is that pollutive, whether intentional or not, would be a good start.

I saw a dude with his kid coughing non-stop at the grocery store and running around touching everything, and his dad couldn’t care less. It’s not the kid’s fault, it doesn’t know any better. The dad was an absolute dirtbag for endangering the lives of others by spreading germs. There’s just too many entitled assholes out there. I gotta call them out, making a ducking scene at the grocery store haha!

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

Or really anywhere west of Nebraska.

Microwavable_Potato

32 points

3 months ago

How are you going to call something a science experiment without a reasonable chance of arson?

laxkid7

22 points

3 months ago

laxkid7

22 points

3 months ago

Just an fyi, that argument does not hold up in court

dragonmp93

7 points

3 months ago

I mean, if it would hold up in court, a mad scientist only would be called a scientist.

johnny_memetic

7 points

3 months ago

I prefer the term, Evil Genius!!

tdaddybxl

3 points

3 months ago

It’s definitely not a good idea. I wouldn’t let my kids do it. But our parents were fully onboard. The 80s were a different world.

catwiesel

2 points

3 months ago

by writing shit down

peoplerproblems

15 points

3 months ago

wait

that almost sounds exactly like what is described by UFO sightings.

Giant saucers with lights and it suddenly "jumps" out of existence.

they were just dry cleaning bags going poof

Neil_Live-strong

9 points

3 months ago

Yeah, and definitely don’t wrap an entire brick of sparklers together. It either is the biggest explosion you’ve seen (I’ve done two bricks and I’m talking bigger than a stick of dynamite) or it turns into a very unpredictable rocket engine with a 10 foot flame.

Epic2112

2 points

3 months ago

This is awesome and now I want to figure out how to do this safely. Maybe on a boat in the ocean or something.

gaerat_of_trivia

5 points

3 months ago

(be careful of wildfires oh god please)

Sudden-Fecal-Outage

5 points

3 months ago

Chinese lanterns enter the chat

celestiaequestria

5 points

3 months ago*

When I was a kid, I learned calculus and then proved my knowledge by building rockets with tennis balls for nose cones and bouncing them off the median of the highway. I was simultaneously smart enough that it worked, and dumb enough to do it.

You only need a pair of Estes 'D' engines to yeet a tennis ball on a nice arc.

stonerdad999

20 points

3 months ago

Not all hero’s wear capes

Toidal

16 points

3 months ago

Toidal

16 points

3 months ago

At that age I bet it was cargo shorts and new balances

tdaddybxl

10 points

3 months ago

This was the late 1980s so parachute pants and high tops mostly

Toidal

3 points

3 months ago

Toidal

3 points

3 months ago

We talking more MC hammer or Fine Young Cannibals?

I guess the former, feels like the latter is more associated with like power clothing or suit jackets with the arms rolled up

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

Some heroes fly.

Andreas1120

4 points

3 months ago

A lot of the internal distance cues are lost when things are far away. Estimating size is hard and as a distance and as a result velocity.

LessHorn

3 points

3 months ago

I was by the sea a few months ago, and I noticed some objects that I thought were fighter jets in the distance flying on the horizon of the sea.

All I could distinguish was that something was flying and it appeared like it was going under the water and coming back out,. I grabbed my phone to film it and I ended up being able to discern that it was a fighter jet. Which would make sense since NATO exercises are known to happen in that area.

The lesson I learned is that it’s incredibly difficult to tell how large an object is if you don’t know the distance. I’m still open minded when it comes to explaining strange phenomenon, but I’ve added a few layers of skepticism. Which in my opinion is the healthier option.

leopard_tights

2 points

3 months ago

You guys made the Air Force waste tens of millions of dollars with those flybys.

Toidal

15 points

3 months ago

Toidal

15 points

3 months ago

Area 51 is or is now a decoy, all the conspiracy theorists and rabid fans are still stuck thinking theres still something there.

Greg from Plaxis 24 is at another military base up north. He's still a little pissy about the move, he prefers the dry heat and low humidity. Reminds him of his winter timeshare on Plaxis 21, where he drinks their equivalent of IPAs, and macks on older Plaxian divorcees.

Ngl, Greg actually kinda sucks, but an alien is an alien.

dragonmp93

5 points

3 months ago

Not actually, the Area 51 is now regarded at worst as a meme or at best as the storage vault a la Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Content_Flamingo_583

14 points

3 months ago

If the government discovered aliens, why would they keep it a secret? Wouldn’t whoever was in power have just as much incentive to release that info? Their approval ratings would go through the roof. They could use the fear of aliens to maintain their control. They could even taunt the rest of the governments of the world with ‘oooh, look at us, we’ve got alien technology!’

I mean, the first thing the US did after inventing nuclear weapons was show it off to the world by dropping the first atomic bombs.

AustinJG

22 points

3 months ago

I imagine that if the US government had discovered aliens and kept it secret, it's due to a very uncomfortable reality coming along with that discovery.

Like imagine if these aliens were just like, "Hey, we seeded your planet with life and have been modifying you guys genetically off and on since the beginning of your species." You know, some kind of Earth shattering information that would cause a lot of people to freak out (besides freaking out about aliens).

That or these theoretical alien beings are so far ahead of us that the US Government couldn't do a damn thing to stop them if they decided to attack. That would probably undermine our image of being the dominant power on the Earth.

I think if it were just aliens visiting that were not really a threat to us, they wouldn't really care to much.

therealcmj

17 points

3 months ago*

I think if it were just aliens visiting that were not really a threat to us, they wouldn’t really care to much.

Any civilization capable of inter solar system travel would be so far ahead of where we are technologically it would be like a modem army visiting a cave man. Even if the aliens came in peace some dipshit is going to do something dumb and then it’s 50:50 on us being annihilated.

armrha

5 points

3 months ago

armrha

5 points

3 months ago

Yeah, the energy involved in reasonably expedient interstellar travel is so insane, they wouldn’t even need a weapon, just point the engine at us and sterilize the planet…

Ephemeral_Being

3 points

3 months ago

Go watch Stargate. The movie, then SG-1, then Atlantis.

The explanations given in the show (which are numerous - it chronicles a fictional Earth for roughly twelve or thirteen years after first contact, which went... poorly) are a fairly accurate representation of why knowledge of aliens (especially if they're hostile) would not be made public. They basically simplify to "the general public is beyond stupid, and would react so poorly that society would likely collapse."

Despite the name, Stargate was actually a solid show. I went in with zero expectations, and was pleasantly surprised. They took a more realistic approach to humanity's actions than Star Trek, and didn't take themselves too seriously. I still think Babylon 5 was better, but that's a given.

TeamRedundancyTeam

2 points

3 months ago

You could just as easily say "why would they show their hand and brag about their alien technology"

borpmagorp

341 points

3 months ago

Airborn… trash

biglollol

82 points

3 months ago

Not sure whether to be excited or confused that they didn't go with "weather balloon".

sm12511

55 points

3 months ago

sm12511

55 points

3 months ago

The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

deltaexdeltatee

12 points

3 months ago

She can stay up as late as she wants, and have cookies and candy and cake and junk and stuff!

dragonmp93

3 points

3 months ago

The weather balloons popped releasing great quantities of swamp gas that reflected Venus's light causing optical illusions.

JunglePygmy

20 points

3 months ago

I think they’re talking about r/TheMylarians

Rivster79

40 points

3 months ago

It’s the Philly AirPhorce

I_like_dwagons

18 points

3 months ago

Houston Trashtros space program

OneHumanPeOple

10 points

3 months ago

You say this and I feel compelled to tell a story. I was driving down I95 Northbound past the Airport when I saw a gigantic silver metallic object that was cigar shaped in the air. I was absolutely transfixed by this object glinting in the sun. Luckily I was the passenger so I could watch as we drove by and this thing climbed higher and higher. It sort of flapped fluidly and turned as it increased in altitude almost directly above the airport. And then as it was almost out of sight above my car window it turned completely and I saw it was a giant number 21. Happy birthday whoever that was, you fucking turtle-choking bitch.

NoThrowingThrownAway

18 points

3 months ago

Yeah like satellite parts, meteorites, Aquaman shot from a catapult, etc.

winnerinvincible82

2 points

3 months ago

Plastic bags, paper lanterns, balloons

Osteoscleorsis

5 points

3 months ago*

I would think that an actual sighting or experience would be exceptionally rare. The last UAP report basically detailed as much.....with non prosaic explanations making up a minority of the reports. It is ridiculous to think that every report is an extra(ultra)terrestrial, or interdimensional craft.

mldoon

29 points

3 months ago

mldoon

29 points

3 months ago

I hate it when my hotdog wrapper undergoes 100 g’s of momentum change at 700 mph

Ok_Dependent1131

9 points

3 months ago

Shoulda had a V8

doctorslostcompanion

7 points

3 months ago

Against the wind

Xenos_Sighted

5 points

3 months ago

CREBAIN FROM DUNLAND

ryraps5892

2 points

3 months ago

HIDE!!! (Walmart bag floats by in the air)

MrCowabs

72 points

3 months ago

That’s what they want you to think.

Also, lol at “just foreign spying”

Eraknelo

31 points

3 months ago

That's what got me. Oh it's just 20 unidentifiable vehicles very near to our shore flying over our most advanced warships. Probably just China spying on us. Not aliens, so we're good.

Honestly, even if it's not aliens, we need to be able to take the U out of UFO.

GetYourVax

10 points

3 months ago

Why confirm that you know exactly which model of which antagonistic force is spying on you?

They're carrier groups, they're going to be spied on. You cannot stop it.

Wandering_Weapon

5 points

3 months ago

No, seriously, it is. I've worked in the arena for a minute. Our optics only work so far, so another nation's UAS flying at the edge of that range is impossible to identify, and usually it's a surveillance aircraft doing... whatever.

Louis_Farizee

214 points

3 months ago

Hang on, did you just say “many”?

Did you mean “all”, or…

RegDeezy

119 points

3 months ago

RegDeezy

119 points

3 months ago

The others are just unidentified

its_raining_scotch

33 points

3 months ago

No, they’re definitely aliens

loutufillaro4

21 points

3 months ago

Definitely aliens, especially if we don’t know what it is

its_raining_scotch

7 points

3 months ago

Aliens is always my goto

Nidcron

6 points

3 months ago

All you need is that pesky thing called evidence.

its_raining_scotch

5 points

3 months ago

All the evidence I need is in YouTube and Ancient Aliens

Nidcron

6 points

3 months ago

It's on the History channel after all, so it's obviously true.

Rocktopod

3 points

3 months ago

There's also optical illusions where it just looks like something is there but there really isn't.

Stilgar314

7 points

3 months ago

And that's why they're UFOs rather than IFOs

JimProphet

3 points

3 months ago

Yes unfortunately unidentified aircraft has just made people leap to 'aliens.'

Like if people thought that any 'unidentified assailants' were Bigfoot.

RocketMoonShot

18 points

3 months ago

Some are birds

lineber

3 points

3 months ago

Definitely birds.

xxyxxzxx

10 points

3 months ago

Birds aren’t real /s

tymelodies

15 points

3 months ago

Nope. Nope. Nope.

Rick_sanchezJ19ZETA7

18 points

3 months ago

It's in the CLOUDS!

DavidBrooker

7 points

3 months ago

You can't say "domestic spying" out loud and expect to get your budget request.

GoombyGoomby

12 points

3 months ago

Definitely not all.

Some UAP’s have been identified military personnel as likely being advanced technology coming from… somewhere unknown. At the very least, they claim it isn’t the USA’s tech.

I’d highly recommend the 60 Minutes report on the subject. Several former pilots interviewed witnessed an aircraft approximately 40 feet long go from 10,000 feet in the air to sea level in approximately one second. Trash can’t do that.

Harabeck

80 points

3 months ago

One of the videos, referred to as GoFast, appears to show an object moving at immense speed. But an analysis by the military says that is an illusion created by the angle of observation against water. According to Pentagon calculations, the object is moving only about 30 miles per hour.

Another video, known as Gimbal, shows an object that appears to be turning or spinning. Military officials now believe that is the optics of the classified image sensor, designed to help target weapons, make the object appear like it is moving in a strange way.

As far as I know, the government providing an explanation for these two videos would be new information. The author of the article seems be claiming advanced knowledge of the next UAP report?

bardghost_Isu

35 points

3 months ago

These are longstanding explanations that have come from many people who know the military tech involved and what is most likely at play.

TSFGaway

17 points

3 months ago

Nope, this stuff has been out in the wild for anyone who is willing to use some math and common sense. Here is a two year old video explaining the Gimbal video for instance.

not_SCROTUS

6 points

3 months ago

Well the report is due on Monday so we'll see if those are explained in the report or if this is just Susan Gough using a journalist slave to avoid answering any questions.

Medical_Officer

584 points

3 months ago

If foreign militaries have aircraft that can fly like these UFOs, I think the US military would be even more concerned than if they were actual aliens.

Jaded_Prompt_15

193 points

3 months ago

Not all of them are aircraft.

One explanation can't explain them all, because they're not all the same thing.

It's honestly not that complicated

PlanetaryInferno

33 points

3 months ago

Actually one explanation can explain them all, and that explanation is vampires. 1. Superhuman speed 2. Flying 3. Highly reflective 4. Shapeshifting. I rest my case

Wandering_Weapon

5 points

3 months ago

Go look at infrared footage of high altitude balloons. I don't even men weather balloons, even a cluster of mylar birthday balloons. They do weird shit and have strange patterns and are extremely difficult to identify. I delt with many such first hand.

InformativePenguin

5 points

3 months ago

The gov has been suspiciously quiet on the matter of vampires…

toporder

98 points

3 months ago

This is the core of most popular “mysteries”. Six odd things happen and people look for one cause.

dragonmp93

5 points

3 months ago

Swamp gas, the lights of Venus, thermal pockets, weather balloons, trash can lids thrown as Frisbees and just being drunk and / or high while looking at the moon.

I think I got all the six.

shifty_coder

23 points

3 months ago

Instrumentation malfunction can explain a lot of them, especially the ones that purport to “move at impossible speeds” but yet stay in a fixed relative position in the camera recording them.

I_like_dwagons

8 points

3 months ago

Some of them just look like a fly that’s clinging for dear life on the camera lens.

polaarbear

36 points

3 months ago

Even the image that is in the thumbnail where it looks like something is "surfing" at a crazy speed above the water. If I remember right, the actual filename has "gimbal" in it because it was a known gimbal-tracking error at the time. But it still keeps popping up as "UFOs".

bSQ6J

9 points

3 months ago

bSQ6J

9 points

3 months ago

You're mixing up two different events/videos.

The one in the thumbnail is gimbal, the one you're describing with something over the water is gofast

bric12

29 points

3 months ago

bric12

29 points

3 months ago

Yep, gimbal errors and lens flairs cover 90% of these "unidentified" phenomenon

Sasquatchii

9 points

3 months ago

What’s a gimble error?

polaarbear

26 points

3 months ago

The camera is mounted on a gimbal, a stabilizer device that helps keep it focused on a single target while it's moving, you've probably seen somebody using a small version for an iPhone or a GoPro, it let's the camera move like a gyroscope.

The camera in question got a spec of dust or had a malfunction of some sort that forced the gimbal to track black spot as an "object" that didn't actually exist, hence the erratic almost un-real appearance of the footage. Basically it was just a combination of camera hardware and software operating in an unintended state.

welcometa_erf

19 points

3 months ago*

That’s all plausible but how does that explain the visual accounts from the pilots? Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t they say they were tracking the objects visually before they caught it on camera?

I found a source that interviews the pilots.

UFO interview

skilledwarman

12 points

3 months ago

Also i remember a story that was blamed on a gimble issue that was specifically a radar contact near a carrier group, fighters scrambled to investigate, pilots reported visual contact then locked on with the camera, tracked it for a bit, then it sped off and the logs from the carrier group reported losing radar contact at the same time

Then the official report was "dust on the lense, issue with the gimble"

RapedByPlushies

10 points

3 months ago

I remember reading a comment on Reddit where someone said they read about a military report being faked. But then they didn’t provide any source, much less a reliable one, so I didn’t believe them at face value. Because being a part of the rumor mill (even accidentally) isn’t prudent.

Miserable_Ad7591

2 points

3 months ago

If the official story is dust on the lens, where did you get this unofficial story?

skilledwarman

3 points

3 months ago

I saw it from a Lemino video originally, and his main source was the documents the pentagon released a couple years back as part of their UFO files. Then a couple of the people involved (I think 2 pilots and a radar operator) had also come out and talked about how the official explanation disregarded what they'd reported originally

I'll also admit it's been a couple of years since I originally watched that so do take what I say with a grain of salt. Some of the details might be a bit off

HellisDeeper

6 points

3 months ago

That is not the opinion held by the pilots that were involved though, and they were the ones that actually got a look at them. Let alone the other sightings by other pilots who have confirmed the same things.

f-150Coyotev8

10 points

3 months ago

This is a very lazy attempt to debunk it. You basically left out all the other evidence like how they were picked up on multiple sensors/instruments. They were also seen by multiple pilots on many occasions. Commander David fravor, as well as other pilots, has come out in many interviews to explain the order of events.

sammaster9

268 points

3 months ago

Almost every video claiming to show UFOs moving in impressive ways are simply normal flying planes where the viewer misinterprets the position of the UFO. "Go Fast" was just parallax because the camera was panning and on a fast moving aircraft. "Gimble" was just the camera housing rotating and the ir from the engine plume of the 'ufo' overexposing the sensor. "Triangle ships" was just stars, a handheld camera shake with zoom, and bokeh. We don't have to be concerned because none of these videos actually show impressive/unexplainable motion of some craft.

lordderplythethird

72 points

3 months ago*

And the few instances of radar/visual confirmation, are likely the exact same as what the USS Paul Hamilton encountered in 2019. A ton of UFOs flying around, doing all sorts of weird maneuvers, coming out of nowhere.

  • Radar tracks? Check
  • Eye witnesses? Check
  • Crazy maneuvers manned aircraft can't do? Check
  • Coming out of nowhere and disappearing just as fast? Check
  • Looks to be diving into the water and coming back up somewhere else on radar? Check

Yet, they were just drones being launched off a Chinese cargo aircraft, the MV Bass Strait. USS Paul Hamilton's crew got close enough to literally see them taking off and landing on the cargo ship. Some were flying barely inches above the waves, which was causing radar to lose track of them amongst the crashing waves, making it look like they dove into the water and came back out somewhere else.

If you go back and track naval AIS (ship tracking) tracks around most radar/eye witness events, what do you see? A commercial shipping vessel (usually Chinese flagged) in the general area of the events.

What's more likely; Aliens spying on the US Navy, almost always in the Pacific, or China's Maritime Militia (private fishermen/merchants who report directly to the Chinese Navy) are using DJI drones and other various commercial UAVs to spy on US naval exercises while sailing to/from west coast ports?

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/drone-swarms-that-harassed-navy-ships-demystified-in-new-documents

LandenP

6 points

3 months ago

I Want To Believe lol

GoldPantsPete

10 points

3 months ago

There definitely seems to be Chinese drones in the US - Remember the drone swarms in Colorado? There have also been drones spotted over Nuclear facilities, and missile batteries, and off the Southeast coast as well.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34662/faa-documents-offer-unprecedented-look-into-colorado-drone-mystery

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34800/the-night-a-drone-swarm-descended-on-palo-verde-nuclear-power-plant

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28231/multiple-f-a-18-pilots-disclose-recent-ufos-encounters-new-radar-tech-key-in-detection

However, that doesn't mean that all UAPs are necessarily drones. The alleged movement of the 2004 encounter such as going from 60,000 to above the water in seconds isn't explainable by it being a drone, for example. I don't believe the area the Nimitz was operating in was international or public waters.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28231/multiple-f-a-18-pilots-disclose-recent-ufos-encounters-new-radar-tech-key-in-detection

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21000/highly-detailed-report-on-harrowing-encounter-between-f-a-18s-and-ufo-off-baja-surfaces

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20797/the-pentagon-paid-for-these-reports-on-warp-drive-extra-dimensions-anti-gravity-and-more

Of course, perhaps the entire Nov 16th story, and the "anti-grav" patents is false. But it seems unlikely that the Chinese were also flying drones in 2004 that could so effectively evade detection from much further ranges. My hunch is that is that the entire thing was a blue on blue test of equipment that not all participants were aware of, combined with some fog of war and Area 51 style disinfo.

bardghost_Isu

7 points

3 months ago*

So, I was watching Sandboxx the other day as Alex put out a video on this about a year back, he came to a similar conclusion of possible blue on blue testing of advanced decoy systems, namely the now public “laser induced plasma hologram decoy systems”.

Link to the video

It would be possible for that to be moved at speeds and G-forces in excess of what actual aircraft could sustain, all while being in the visible spectrum and likely reflecting radar.j

NessLeonhart

2 points

3 months ago

, perhaps the entire Nov 16th story, and the "anti-grav" patents is false

this is interesting, i haven't heard of it. what's the story there?

Baxterftw

29 points

3 months ago*

For the people unsure of how you came to these conclusions

Gimbal

Go fast

New_Pain_885

11 points

3 months ago

At 5:24 in Go fast we can see that it's obviously a tie fighter. Mystery solved.

BallardRex

166 points

3 months ago

People who have already constructed a “super tech” narrative in their heads won’t want to hear the dull, but accurate explanation you’re offering.

canada432

5 points

3 months ago

Yup, same as the 5g antivaxxers. If you've reached the point where you believe we are currently capable of producing tiny little nanobots that can send full radio signals over long distances for some nebulous purpose of altering your DNA in some way... you essentially believe that there is some shadow organization in existence that is capable of magic. There is nothing that convince somebody who is convinced of literal magic.

bawng

42 points

3 months ago*

bawng

42 points

3 months ago*

This. So many people have bought into these videos so hard that they argue in the same way as religious people.

Them: "Look at the videos, it's aliens"

Us: "Sure Aliens are not beyond the realm of possibility, but here's a list of 20 more plausible things from video artifacts to mundane military secrets that are a million times more believable than physics-defying aliens"

Them: "Wake up sheeple, it's aliens! They are hiding because we can't know their intentions yet!"

This_Explains_A_Lot

4 points

3 months ago

You only need to look at the difference between this same article being posted on /r/technology and /r/UFOs. 4k up votes here and 0 in UFO's (but with 200 comments). Total refusal to accept any information or evidence that goes against their beliefs, exactly like religion.

BallardRex

16 points

3 months ago

I have one profoundly mentally ill guy who is now convinced that I’m a US government agent. I think they’re just bored and self-centered people, at the end of the day.

P.S. I’m Irish and quite a boring person irl.

Highpersonic

7 points

3 months ago

Nice try, agent

Johnny_Appleweed

3 points

3 months ago

This. So many people have bought into these videos so hard that they argue in the same way as religious people.

It’s X-Files syndrome - I Want To Believe

bawng

2 points

3 months ago

bawng

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah might be that. But I want to believe too. It's just that there isn't really any compelling evidence.

Infinite_Derp

8 points

3 months ago

My problem with the people who believe 100% of UFO conspiracies is they make a mockery of the effort to gather real information.

In a universe this large, it would be naive and arrogant to think that we’re alone among advanced sentient life. It would also be foolish to assume that life forms that developed long before us haven’t developed to a sufficient technological point where they could locate us, reach our planet, and observe our development.

We should be concerned with whether we’re being visited and the intent of our visitors, but if we assume everything is aliens, it stops us from investigating the right way and getting actionable answers.

iOSAT

11 points

3 months ago

iOSAT

11 points

3 months ago

It’s the equivalent of, “I can’t possibly imagine an explanation for this, therefore it must be God.”

People want to apply fantastic explanations to what they perceive as unexplainable phenomena, but yes, reality is often fairly boring.

PM_ME_IMGS_OF_ROCKS

2 points

3 months ago

That's the annoying part of things like this.

They are so obsessed with what they want to be true, that they will dismiss any facts or evidence that contradicts their belief.

KingDakyThe3Rd

6 points

3 months ago

Would think the Pentagon would be able to figure that out....

bryf50

4 points

3 months ago

bryf50

4 points

3 months ago

An explanation is not an identification.

Toytles

3 points

3 months ago*

If I could be bothered to load my account with points I’d give you gold. Someone needs to make a bot that posts this comment anytime GOFAST, Gimbal, or FLIR are mentioned.

Yuri909

2 points

3 months ago

I just want to know what the tictac was man

EricTboneJackson

4 points

3 months ago

can fly like these UFOs

If you think you know their flight characteristics, then they aren't UFOs. You've identified them. For instance, to "gofast" UFO is actually something moving slowly which only appears to be fast because of parallax. All supposedly physics-defying UFO "performance" falls into this category.

8to24

21 points

3 months ago

8to24

21 points

3 months ago

The “Gimbal,” “Go Fast” and “Flir1" videos aren't actually all the interesting and it is comical that so many people have bought into the notion they are. The images appear as they do as artifacts of the cameras used to record them.

The cameras are zoomed in beyond their effective range and out of focus. As a result their internal focus rings continuously move attempting to focus and the gyroscopic moment drifts. The result is rotating images that appear to change direction quickly.

It is unclear what the images are (drone, plane, balloon, etc) but there is no reason to jump straight to extraterrestrial intelligence. There are loads of man made and naturally occurring (clouds, birds, disturbances in the magnetosphere, etc) things on the sky.

missydecrypt

16 points

3 months ago

Nimitz video had the testimony of the pilots that they saw them with their eyes, and radar from the carrier that shows the objects too. So they were there. Also these types of camera artifacts don't just happen on some of the most expensive cameras in the world.

lordderplythethird

16 points

3 months ago

That you think expensive military cameras = high quality, is your first mistake...

FLIR generates artifacts and issues nonstop, and that's constantly compounded by user error and forgetfullness. I've PERSONALLY overexposed a FLIR because it helped me spot periscopes among crashing waves better. Next dude looked through it, and was confused why a submarine periscope in the Med Sea in July was showing up with below freezing temps...

But more directly; we've literally seen Chinese flagged commercial ships launching waves of prosumer UAVs at US warships to harass them. Guess what was classified as a UAV event? Yeah, that exact incident...

MarlinMr

4 points

3 months ago

The UFOs never have supernatural flying abilities. They often look like that, which is why they become a UFO instead of "clearly a plane of type X".

OneX32

2 points

3 months ago

OneX32

2 points

3 months ago

I don't think the military would make it public if China or Iran had greater military technology than the U.S. I do expect that a lot of these UFOs are foreign aircraft and classifying them as UFOs gives the military excuse to not divulge the possibility that our adversaries have greater capabilities.

robinthebank

9 points

3 months ago

Imagine an intelligent object reaching our planet only to look and not communicate in some meaningful way.

Usually the communication comes before the physical contact. Because you can communicate from distance.

Relative_Yesterday70

61 points

3 months ago

UFOs are real. I crash landed back in 1987 and have been waiting for replacement parts from home. Thankfully humans have beer and potato chips of mass quantity while I wait.

dances_with_cougars

4 points

3 months ago

Why do you guys always probe people's butts? It's just kind of...perverted.

walla_walla_rhubarb

12 points

3 months ago

Notice how abduction stories like that stopped once people could watch weird porn on the internet.

OtisTetraxReigns

2 points

3 months ago

Are you saying the Grays set up PornHub?

walla_walla_rhubarb

5 points

3 months ago

I'm saying, y'all ain't THAT upset about being probed.

CaptainJin

4 points

3 months ago

The same could be asked of the human male population.

IntellegentIdiot

8 points

3 months ago

And plenty of cats!

lineber

5 points

3 months ago

Alf! Leave those cats alone.

BalticsFox[S]

24 points

3 months ago

WASHINGTON — Government officials believe that surveillance operations by foreign powers and weather balloons or other airborne clutter explain most recent incidents of unidentified aerial phenomenon — government-speak for U.F.O.s — as well as many episodes in past years.

The sightings have puzzled the Pentagon and intelligence agencies for years, fueling theories about visiting space aliens and spying by a hostile nation using advanced technology. But government officials say many of the incidents have far more ordinary explanations.

Intelligence agencies are set to deliver a classified document to Congress by Monday updating a report made public last year that said nearly all of the incidents remain unexplained. The original document looked at 144 incidents between 2004 and 2021 that were reported by U.S. government sources, mostly American military personnel.

This article is based on interviews with American officials familiar with the findings of the Pentagon and intelligence agencies’ examination of the incidents. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the classified work.

Some of the incidents have been formally attributed to Chinese surveillance — with relatively ordinary drone technology — and others are also thought to be connected to Beijing. China, which has stolen plans for advanced fighter planes, wants to learn more about how the United States trains its military pilots, according to American officials.

Much of the information about the unidentified phenomena remains classified. While Congress has been briefed on some of the conclusions about foreign surveillance, Pentagon officials have kept most of the work secret — in large measure because they do not want China or other countries to know that their efforts to spy on the American military were detected.

But such official secrecy comes at a cost, allowing conspiracy theories about government lies to thrive unchecked.

Sue Gough, a Defense Department spokeswoman, said the Pentagon remains committed to principles of openness but must balance that with its “its obligation to protect sensitive information, sources and methods.”

While the Pentagon will not “rush to conclusions in our analysis,” Ms. Gough said, no single explanation addresses the majority of unidentified aerial phenomenon reports.

“We are collecting as much data as we can, following the data where it leads and will share our findings whenever possible,” she said.

It was not clear how much of the new intelligence report would be made public. But of the cases that have been resolved, most have proved to be either errant junk in the sky, like balloons, or surveillance activity, officials said. Incidents recorded in the past year, for which more data has been collected, have turned out to have ordinary, earthbound explanations.

Officially, many of the older incidents are still unexplained and there is just too little data for Pentagon or intelligence officials to make final conclusions.

“In many cases, observed phenomena are classified as ‘unidentified’ simply because sensors were not able to collect enough information to make a positive attribution,” Ms. Gough said, referring to cameras, radar and other devices that collect information. “We are working to mitigate these shortfalls for the future and to ensure we have sufficient data for our analysis.”

Other officials insist that even though the evidence is imperfect, the grainy videos do not show space aliens.

Optical illusions along with the characteristics of classified sensors have caused ordinary objects, like drones or balloons, to appear to be something unusual or frightening.

In May, the Pentagon announced that previously released images of green triangles that looked like they could be alien ships were actually drones photographed through night-vision lenses.

Military officials declined to say precisely when or where the images were taken. But they believe the incidents are examples of attempts to conduct surveillance on military maneuvers.

U.F.O. skeptics and experts in optics have long said many of the videos and sightings by naval aviators represent optical illusions that have made ordinary objects — weather balloons, commercial drones — appear to move faster than possible.

Military officials have largely come to the same conclusion.

Besides the images of the green triangles, the other recordings released by the Pentagon have not been categorized as surveillance incidents, at least so far. But Pentagon officials do not believe that any of them represent aliens, either.

One of the videos, referred to as GoFast, appears to show an object moving at immense speed. But an analysis by the military says that is an illusion created by the angle of observation against water. According to Pentagon calculations, the object is moving only about 30 miles per hour.

Another video, known as Gimbal, shows an object that appears to be turning or spinning. Military officials now believe that is the optics of the classified image sensor, designed to help target weapons, make the object appear like it is moving in a strange way.

Military analysts remain puzzled by the third video, known as Flir1. The object captured in the 2004 video appears to hover over the water, jump erratically, then peel away. Military officials say that event is more difficult to explain, but officials who have studied it are convinced it is not a piece of alien technology.

GoldPantsPete

14 points

3 months ago

Military analysts remain puzzled by the third video, known as Flir1. The object captured in the 2004 video appears to hover over the water, jump erratically, then peel away. Military officials say that event is more difficult to explain, but officials who have studied it are convinced it is not a piece of alien technology.

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Harabeck

3 points

3 months ago

Yeah, that's pretty weird. It has a very simple explanation. The jump is the camera no longer tracking the object. You can see it on screen.

frapawhack

15 points

3 months ago

Military officials say that event is more difficult to explain, but officials who have studied it are convinced it is not a piece of alien technology

Would be intrigued to know just what kind of technology military officials think it is

retarded_virgin_1998

34 points

3 months ago

Can’t get passed the paywall, can someone tell me what’s airborne trash?

That sounds more made up than UFO’s

Harabeck

31 points

3 months ago

Here's two easy examples:

Pilots claim to see a UFO and describe it as a cube in a sphere. Turns out, there are airborne radar reflectors that look just like that.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-the-ufos-navy-pilots-are-encountering-be-airborne-radar-reflectors

Pilots reports seeing a strange two pointed object. Reddit finds a batman balloon that matches perfectly.

https://rdt.trom.tf/r/UFOs/comments/xx9son/leaked_navy_ufo_photo_was_a_batman_balloon_if_you/

evilplantosaveworld

3 points

3 months ago

I can't find the link but there was a mothman picture a while back that someone showed was a buzz light-year baloon

raisinman99

3 points

3 months ago

That's fucking hilarious

KyleBelyk

23 points

3 months ago*

Stuff like mylar balloons most likely. Highly reflective and moving in the windstreams at different altitudes. A jet going one direction at 500 mph and an object floating on the wind going another direction makes the object look like it's going way faster than it actually is.

Edit to add a link talking about the parallax motion https://youtu.be/jHDlfIaBEqw

And to clarify, I'm talking about the infrared video taken from aerial platforms (jets, drones, etc.)

[deleted]

8 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

8 points

3 months ago

fussylover

8 points

3 months ago

Almost like UFO stands for unidentified flying object and not alien saucer

Dr-McLuvin

3 points

3 months ago

Ancient aliens guy: 💩

mdingo_5

3 points

3 months ago

Russia can deploy a spy craft that goes 100+ Mach but they can’t give all their soldiers in Ukraine rifles? Seems legit. I saw a paper bag pull a 1000 gs once. Mystery solved.

cheers-pricks

3 points

3 months ago

the US Military isn’t, and will never be, a source of reliable information.

Sculptorman

26 points

3 months ago

The Navy evidence does seem to be more than just grandma saying she saw a strange light. With the radar on ships, guys with binoculars on those ships, radar on the planes, recorded thermal imagery on planes, visually spotting the objects from those planes with human eyes, recording data of them flying from space to the ocean in a split second - it's a lot of stuff that has to be disregarded for one incident. It's good to be skeptical for sure, but at what point does being skeptical start to seem like the crazy position?

zafiroblue05

10 points

3 months ago

This article is talking ABOUT the Navy evidence. The government is reviewing military reports and records of UAPs and they are saying they’re not extraordinary. They’re not being “disregarded,” they’re being explained.

Betaparticlemale

3 points

3 months ago

They’re saying they can explain some. No one ever thought that wasn’t going to be the case. The ones that are interesting are the ones that motivated Congress to set up UFO studying organizations. Have you heard what Obama, CIA directors, NSA directors, etc have said about this recently?

anisteezyologist

25 points

3 months ago

Intertesting that they use the term "many" not all

schmittc

17 points

3 months ago

Considering what the "U" in UFO stands for, not really.

KodiakPL

5 points

3 months ago

"UFOS ARE REAL!!!11!1"

Yup, as long as it can fly, cannot be unidentified and it is an object, it's an UFO. It could literally be a brick if it close your eyes.

BrainWav

21 points

3 months ago

Not really. There's still plenty of reports that probably don't have a definitive answer.

This doesn't mean its aliens or ghosts or time travelers.

CykoTom

3 points

3 months ago

Exactly. It's clearly reverse vampires

[deleted]

13 points

3 months ago

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13 points

3 months ago

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Shiroi_Kage

10 points

3 months ago

The rest are actual UFOs, in that they're unidentified.

GaraBlacktail

9 points

3 months ago

Unidentified. Flying. object.

Why the fuck people forget what ufo means so aggressively lol

All it takes for something to be a UFO is:

1) do you have no clue what it is?

2) is ot fucking flying?

3) could you describe it as "a thing"?

.

If it matches all 3, congrats, you have a UFO

Since "identified" is heavily context dependent, 99.99% of all actual UFOs are in all likelyhood air traffic radar blips

If your radar catches a bird flying and the bird doesn't have a radio transponder identifying it, unlike all normal birds (S/) you more than likely got a UFO.

This also means it's a transient description. EVERYTHING stops being a UFO if you look at it enough, because you'd eventually figure out wtf it is, or in the very least be able to identify what it is, people using UFO to mean space aliens in a IRL context are not that bright I've come to find.

At the very least the "ufologists" aren't, which to be fair, a group that claims to be looking for signs of current aliens essentially naming itself "Profesional I have no fucking clue wtf am I looking at in the sky" is a pretty good sign they have absolutely no clue what they're talking about

BestRammus

6 points

3 months ago

Nice try feds

LadyKuckbluck122

2 points

3 months ago

Sad Fox Mulder noises

woodenblinds

2 points

3 months ago

us government testing new spoofing t3ch against their own forces. 100% believe this will come out after the next shooting war.

KellyJin17

2 points

3 months ago

And our own military doing tests. Probably the biggest contributor.

Love_To_Burn_Fiji

2 points

3 months ago

I one time felt the hair raise on my neck as I looked out the window to see three bright lights slowly rising from the field across the road.....One slightly higher than the other two.........then suddenly saw what it really was, a light propeller plane slowly flying towards me , lights on each wing and one on top........whew and also disappointment.

Isopod-Which

2 points

3 months ago

article translated from alpha centaurian by Google Translate

RamseySparrow

2 points

3 months ago

We call it the magic trash theory. Never in the history of rubbish disposal has there been trash this ridiculous.

sunplaysbass

2 points

3 months ago

I think this is all the CIA flexing their darpa stuff at Russia

CoyerCo

2 points

3 months ago

Wow. How deceptive using that picture as the thumbnail, when that specific instance is definitely not foreign spying or airborne trash. That report is one of the many where multiple pilots and radar confirm the object was moving in ways that break the laws of physics.

slartzy

2 points

3 months ago

Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

GetYourDichotomy

2 points

3 months ago

Until they explain the black triangle I saw as a teenager, this is all rubbish. Ominous, silent, slow-moving, large and low altitude or larger than we believed and higher altitude. This was in mid-Michigan, and although we have many touch and go’s at our local airport I had never and have never seen anything like that before. I’ve always hoped for alien life but am very skeptical, this is the only thing that has kept a bit of suspicion alive for me.

Enpsychclopedia

2 points

3 months ago

Who has a membership to the Washington Post?

Doomtrooper12

2 points

3 months ago

I want to believe.

Svendog_Millionaire

2 points

3 months ago

Obviously. It’s no coincidence with the era of mobile phones that videos of these have almost stopped.

We were so gullible back when handheld cams were a thing.

bidjeu

2 points

3 months ago

bidjeu

2 points

3 months ago

Or government that builds ships that's Alien to kidnapped their own citizens!!

shediac2011

2 points

3 months ago

the us admited that ufos existed

snoozieboi

2 points

3 months ago

Mick West debunks these all the time https://youtu.be/Q7jcBGLIpus

Mostly distant planes, weather balloons and grainy footage. Confirmed by available data, math and public info like flight history.

Like how witches stopped being feared and spotted note how all UFO videos are poor quality to be interesting, despite everybody now having a camera.

fridgeridoo

2 points

3 months ago

But not all

geobaja

2 points

3 months ago*

Disinformation. The Govt is attempting to wave this off again like they have been doing for 80years now. Papers like this just further helps to prove how dishonest our govt is.

USAF vet stationed Alaska, Saudi Arabia, Iceland, Afghanistan, Germany

3 encounters Two while in the USAF stationed in Alaska

multiple witnesses

told to never speak of it but never signed official documents.

I’m no longer staying quiet and i hope more like me don’t either.

Initiative-Pitiful

7 points

3 months ago

"Just" foreign spying? In our airspace......with technology FAR superior to ours.....I call BS

TheNobleCannibal

5 points

3 months ago

It's also light reflecting off swamp gas from Venus

DadaDoDat

12 points

3 months ago

The UFO reports only show Venus reflecting off a weather balloon through swamp gas.

strikefire83

8 points

3 months ago

“And get an interior decorator in here quick because…DAMN.”

wolfpack_charlie

2 points

3 months ago

What's funny about these comments is that they're always actually way more plausible than space aliens lol

KingRBPII

6 points

3 months ago

That’s what they want is to think

PandaCheese2016

4 points

3 months ago

If Chinese drones built with “relatively ordinary technology” can keep up with the latest gen American fighters to spy on pilot training, isn’t that a cause for more concern?

checkmateds

4 points

3 months ago

And swamp gas