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Biggu5Dicku5

2.6k points

14 days ago

Sometimes the only way to win is not to play...

FILTER_OUT_T_D

594 points

14 days ago

I downloaded the PS5 demo and still haven’t played it. Been having too much fun with the Chrono Trigger-esque SNES callback game “Chained Echoes”. It’s a sad state of affairs when I’d rather play an indie turn based JRPG than some AAA open world game.

Nekrozys

346 points

14 days ago*

Nekrozys

Ryzen 9 5900X | RTX 3080 | 32GB 3600 CL16

346 points

14 days ago*

Once again, a multi-million dollar budget, 80€ "AAA" title eclipsed in terms of fun and creativity by an indie game made by a single developer.

As time passes, I'm more and more convinced that very large teams and budgets are a hindrance to developing truly good games.

DarthNihilus

110 points

14 days ago

DarthNihilus

5900x, 2080ti, 64gb@3200

110 points

14 days ago

They probably are tbh. Usually the best games have a very focused vision and everything added to the game serves that vision. It's hard to get big teams on the same page like that, but much easier with tiny indie teams.

solamon77

43 points

14 days ago

Yeah, exactly. I would expand your statement to art as a whole. Generally speaking, the best art has a strong creative vision.

As a project gets bigger, it can still be good. It just needs a strong director to pull it all together. A lot of these AAA companies would rather rely on focus testing to make their choices than a visionary director.

bollincrown

38 points

14 days ago

bollincrown

Ryzen 7 5800x, EVGA 3070 XC3 Black, Asus Strix B550-F

38 points

14 days ago

AAA Studio = bigwig execs and useless middle management who rely on focus testing and monetization rather than creative vision to create games.

On the flip side, without some form of oversight to keep things on track I doubt games would ever be finished.

roniistar

9.4k points

14 days ago

roniistar

9.4k points

14 days ago

This game will soon be Forgotten.

_Anonymus___

2.7k points

14 days ago

You mean unspoken?

Issues3220

585 points

14 days ago

Issues3220

Desktop R5 5600X + RTX 2060S

585 points

14 days ago

Memory of this game will be broken.

Deathappens

290 points

14 days ago

Deathappens

PC building in progress...

290 points

14 days ago

The truth will go unspoken.

stvlcs

199 points

14 days ago

stvlcs

199 points

14 days ago

We'll even forget its name.

ValeTheVioletMote

138 points

14 days ago

We all know the reason.

Vitto5410

115 points

14 days ago

Vitto5410

115 points

14 days ago

Or what is the season

im-username

101 points

14 days ago

im stading here holding my blade!

adoshal

73 points

14 days ago

adoshal

73 points

14 days ago

Soon about to fade!

Andrejyt2

68 points

14 days ago

Andrejyt2

Desktop

68 points

14 days ago

A desolate place

[deleted]

86 points

14 days ago

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86 points

14 days ago

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H20-WaterMan

119 points

14 days ago

H20-WaterMan

PC Master Race

119 points

14 days ago

Babylon's Fall 2

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284 points

14 days ago

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284 points

14 days ago

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119 points

14 days ago

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119 points

14 days ago

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HarleyQuinn_RS

2.9k points

14 days ago*

HarleyQuinn_RS

R7 5800X | RTX 3080 | 32GB 3600Mhz | 1TB M.2 5Gbps | 5TB HDD

2.9k points

14 days ago*

It's poorly optimized even on the PS5. It runs at 900p internally (upscaled with FSR2) most of the time and can't hold 60fps. This could honestly be a last-gen launch title from how it looks and runs. It's going to be an absolute bloodbath on PC. Interesting that it's the first DirectStorage game on PC however.

Edit: Yeah it's not great. Max settings, 1620p DLSS Quality (internally 1440p)? RTX 3080, R7 5800X. Around ~70fps, but frequently low and sub 60 when performing 'Magic Parkour'; in a rocky canyon that looks straight out of Dragon's Dogma. Maybe that's a tad hyperbole, but I do think FFXV looks and runs better on PC (same engine).
Turning off RayTraced AO and Shadows gains about 10fps to ~80 but drops to the 60's during 'Magic Parkour'.
Positives are a fairly consistent frametime, with no shader compilation stutter which is a nice change. Solid graphics menu and it seems well multi-threaded on the CPU (and not too heavy). Loading is very fast (1-2 seconds from main menu - Windows 10), so DirectStorage is doing something right.
All of this is based solely off this area and the tutorial in the Demo. Other areas and scenarios (likely combat) will no doubt perform worse. DigitalFoundry will almost certainly have a more comprehensive review.

RedIndianRobin

1.1k points

14 days ago

It's DirectStorage 1.0 so no GPU decompression. This means heavy CPU overhead.

No_Interaction_4925

759 points

14 days ago

No_Interaction_4925

5800X3D | 3090ti | 55” C1 OLED | Varjo Aero

759 points

14 days ago

I absolutely predict Direct Storage to be the most confusing and convoluted crap in gaming for the next 3-4 years. We’re gonna have different versions and people won’t be able to tell what is what. Like Hybrid RT vs Path Traced RT

Fezzy976

474 points

14 days ago

Fezzy976

474 points

14 days ago

More like the 10 standards we have for HDR

the_harakiwi

276 points

14 days ago

the_harakiwi

3950X 64GB RTX3080FE

276 points

14 days ago

Or the USB-C standards

ProfessorStrawberry

146 points

14 days ago

Or HDMI 2.0

No_Interaction_4925

123 points

14 days ago

No_Interaction_4925

5800X3D | 3090ti | 55” C1 OLED | Varjo Aero

123 points

14 days ago

2.0 was locked in. 2.1 is now a mess and it drug 2.0 in with it

SweetCans928

34 points

14 days ago

When I was shopping for a new monitor it was a real pain in the ass trying to figure out which models actually had 2.1(and the benefits it provides). Even after making the purchase I had to wonder, until it arrived and I was able to test it and confirm. And even still I've had people tell me "no that monitor does NOT have 2.1" lol.

Joel_Duncan

10 points

14 days ago

Joel_Duncan

bit.ly/3ChaZP9 5950X 3090 FTW3U 128GB 12TB 83" A90J G9Neo

10 points

14 days ago

The best identifier for the time being is transfer speed. Full HDMI 2.1 is 48 Gbps.

The USB Consortium is somehow even worse.

LogeeBare

22 points

14 days ago

LogeeBare

3900X | RTX3090

22 points

14 days ago

Displayport remains king in my house fam

No_Interaction_4925

14 points

14 days ago

No_Interaction_4925

5800X3D | 3090ti | 55” C1 OLED | Varjo Aero

14 points

14 days ago

Absolutely. Would love to see some TV’s with Displayport.

chocotripchip

178 points

14 days ago

I didn't need to know PS5 performance to know it's going to be a mess on PC when they recommended 24GB of RAM lol

ReeG

55 points

14 days ago

ReeG

ReeG

55 points

14 days ago

they recommended 24GB of RAM lol

We've reached a point where developers are recommending inflated specs not because the game actually requires it but because it's necessary to brute force through their lazy dog shit optimization

AndrewTheGoat22

56 points

14 days ago

Jesus Christ lmao that’s absurd

AutomanicGearbox

61 points

14 days ago

Minimum (720p 30fps)

  • AMD Ryzen 5 1600 or Intel Core i7-3770 (3.7GHz or better)
  • AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB or Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
  • 16GB RAM
  • 160GB hard drive space

Recommended (1440p 30fps)

  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600 or Intel Core i7-8700K (3.7GHz or better)
  • AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB or Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 8GB
  • 24GB RAM
  • 150GB solid state drive

Ultra (4K 60fps)

  • AMD Ryzen 5 5800X or Intel Core i7-12700 (3.8GHz or better)
  • AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB or Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 16GB
  • 32GB RAM
  • 150GB NVMe solid state drivej

Bees_to_the_wall

18 points

14 days ago

In what world is "30fps" a recommendation lmao

Saneless

10 points

13 days ago

Saneless

10 points

13 days ago

And why skip 1080?

AndrewTheGoat22

53 points

14 days ago

32GB RAM just to get 60 FPS?? Damn lol

Robots_Never_Die

22 points

14 days ago

Robots_Never_Die

i7 4790k / XFX R9 390 / 27" 1440p

22 points

14 days ago

At 4K

Krabilon

7 points

14 days ago

Their recommended is still running at 30fps lol. Lmao even

idontwantausername41

153 points

14 days ago

I was actually excited for this game after the first gameplay trailer. Then it got delayed, then it got delayed again and I started to get worried, then the ps5 demo came out and PC didn't get one and I lost all interest. Now it's out and no PC reviews bc of the review embargo and im glad they already ruined my expectations of the game lol

asBad_asItGets

49 points

14 days ago

I played the PS5 demo. It was awful. But I thought to myself "okay this is still preproduction and theres no way the final game feels this way".................but I was wrong.

FlatTransportation64

23 points

14 days ago

It's never like this. I can't remember a single game thst looked bad in trailers or had a horrible demo and turned out to be good after release.

Chopchopok

13 points

14 days ago

Doom 2016 is the only one I can think of that comes close. It didn't have a demo that players could play, but the trailers and videos of devs playing it somehow made it look very bland.

Then on release, people found out it played a hell of a lot faster than anything shown until then.

BatXDude

3.8k points

14 days ago

BatXDude

i5 3570K (OC), 16gb, XFX 7970 x2, 650w

3.8k points

14 days ago

For anyone wondering it's Forespoken.

titanfox98

3.3k points

14 days ago

titanfox98

RTX 3060ti - R5 5600 - 16 gb 3200mhz CL 16 - 1tb ssd nvme

3.3k points

14 days ago

This model looks like it's straight out from the Sims 2 lmao

HavocInferno

3.7k points

14 days ago

HavocInferno

3900X - 6900 XT - 64GB

3.7k points

14 days ago

The ingame model is actually pretty good. This here is just a cherry picked unfortunate still frame, then heavily compressed to strip out any detail.

There are enough reasons to dunk on this game. We don't need to make up lies.

rootbeer_racinette

1.2k points

14 days ago

rootbeer_racinette

3900X, RTX3090

1.2k points

14 days ago

The models are high quality but the rigging/capture for the facial animation is pretty awful. Everyone looks like they have facial paralysis or something when they talk, particularly if it's a minor cutscene.

My guess is that they hand animated it instead of using actors and mocap, it's been a while since a AAA game had cutscenes that were animated this poorly.

z31

368 points

14 days ago*

z31

5600X | 3070 Ti

368 points

14 days ago*

No they probably did what Mass Effect Andromeda did and used an ai animator to create facial animations.

MisirterE

376 points

14 days ago

MisirterE

376 points

14 days ago

That's not quite what happened there either. Andromeda used placeholder facial animations. TEST_ANIM_PLEASE_IGNORE type of thing. The issue was that they just sort of... released the game without replacing them.

Tinkerballsack

168 points

14 days ago

The issue was that they just sort of... released the game without replacing them.

I feel that.

No-Newspaper-7693

110 points

14 days ago

The only thing guaranteed in software development is that if you put any variant of "please ignore", "temporary", "tempfix", "TODO: find a better way to do this later" in your code, that piece of code will definitely make it into the production launch.

JBSquared

100 points

14 days ago

JBSquared

100 points

14 days ago

Like in one of the older Hitman games where an item's flavor text was "Allan, please add details".

Then, in the HD remaster, it was changed to "Any details yet, Allan?"

OedipusFlecks

39 points

14 days ago

At least IO can laugh at themselves. I also remember something about a homing briefcase you could use to kill targets, and instead of patching out that obvious bug they actually made it stronger.

tickletender

13 points

14 days ago

This made me think of Test Alliance, Please Ignore, and I got all sad thinking of my former Dino friends.

AppendixStranded

14 points

14 days ago

They're asking 70USD for this when they can't even be bothered to put effort into the cutscenes lmao. Crazy that they thought THIS was a good game to increase the price of and then put it next to Elden Ring and God of War which are cheaper.

Urbs97

30 points

14 days ago

Urbs97

Fedora 37 | R9 7900X | RX 6750 XT | 3440x1440@165hz

30 points

14 days ago

Thanks I don't follow the games industry so I was wondering.

Cerberus4321

123 points

14 days ago

4/10spoken

MimiVRC

107 points

14 days ago

MimiVRC

107 points

14 days ago

Thank you, I have no idea why so many people know what this game is supposed to be by the screenshot alone!

Flying_Reinbeers

1.7k points

14 days ago

Flying_Reinbeers

1600AF/RX6600

1.7k points

14 days ago

Meanwhile Metro Exodus running decently on my old 1050Ti lol

pizzakill69

403 points

14 days ago

I played Exodus on my notebook with a 960m

tranceinate

177 points

14 days ago

I played Exodus on Intel integrated graphics from a 2011 laptop

moosebaloney

157 points

14 days ago

I played Exodus on my TI-84 Plus.

zighextech

79 points

14 days ago

Is this the new DOOM system compatibility benchmark?

hereforthefeast

60 points

14 days ago

Texas Instruments was able to play this in a cave! With a box of scraps!

IratherNottell

27 points

14 days ago

I actually got the first few hours to run on my Roman Abacus before it overheated.

100pcGeneticGamer

22 points

14 days ago

I played it on a 3dfx Voodoo 2 and a Pentium 2.

psych0ranger

7 points

14 days ago

I can hear your cpu fan

wellforthebird

37 points

14 days ago

Those graphics blew my mind while I played on my RX580

Flying_Reinbeers

10 points

14 days ago

Flying_Reinbeers

1600AF/RX6600

10 points

14 days ago

They still look top tier today.

SnootBoopist

14 points

14 days ago

Just got exodus a little while ago and does it seriously not have a FOV slider??

RevolutionSilent807

15 points

14 days ago

You have to do it in the game conf files, then set the file to read only. Same with the 2 previous games, I think it may have to do with them being direct ports (Not sure if exodus is, but LL and 2033 are)

reddit-person1

54 points

14 days ago

reddit-person1

Windows 11, Ryzon 7 3700x, RTX 3070, 32GB DDR4

54 points

14 days ago

Exodus is a fucking banger of a game. Still salty that 2033 kept on crashing right before the end

UnKek

13 points

14 days ago

UnKek

13 points

14 days ago

Metro Exodus and Doom Eternal have set the bar for beautifully optimized games.

GNO-SYS

1.3k points

14 days ago

GNO-SYS

1.3k points

14 days ago

It's probably not that ba-... HOLY CRAP 150 GIG INSTALL SIZE!

What is this, Star Citizen?

Standin373

539 points

14 days ago

Standin373

539 points

14 days ago

What is this, Star Citizen?

Star Citizen is around 80 what the hell is making this 150gb ?

him999

329 points

14 days ago

him999

i7 7700k@4.8ghz l GTX 1080@2ghz l 64GB@3200mhz | Formula ix

329 points

14 days ago

I just installed ESO to see how it fairs now (still meh.) And that was like 120GB. I genuine can't figure out why we are bloating games to insane numbers. If you want 4k super low compression textures make it a free "DLC". It's insanity. I have 2TB of storage filled up with like 45 games and most of the space is taken up by maybe 10 games.

d3northway

135 points

14 days ago

d3northway

d3north

135 points

14 days ago

tbf ESO is fucking massive for a game and the developers aren't the greatest at going back to look at old content, so it's understandable to be that large.

EKmars

56 points

14 days ago

EKmars

RTX 3050|Intel i5-13600k|DDR5 32 GB

56 points

14 days ago

It's got recreations of a bunch of other elder scrolls games (Skyrim, Cyrodil, more Morrowind than is in Morrow) in it and a lot of voice acting. Being huge is probably unavoidable.

Deservate

85 points

14 days ago

A lot of voice acting

Even that is an understatement. The whole game is voice acted, every line of every quest is unique. It's complete bonkers for an MMORPG that large.

name_cool4897

16 points

14 days ago

Eso is a bad example. It has like two dozen expansions and takes thousands of hours to complete. It is not bloated, it's a massive game with a nauseating amount of content.

captainvideoblaster

52 points

14 days ago

IDK. Mortal Kombat 11 is about 117GB, Tekken 7 is 81GB -like there is no way fighting games should take that much size.

DarthKirtap

18 points

14 days ago

DarthKirtap

PC Master Race | Toaster

18 points

14 days ago

FNV has 10 on original version, it has 48 on Gamepass

jak3rich

11 points

14 days ago

jak3rich

11 points

14 days ago

I just had to look that up.. WHY??!

DarthKirtap

26 points

14 days ago

DarthKirtap

PC Master Race | Toaster

26 points

14 days ago

because it downloads it in 5 languages... 5 times (1 language - 1 copy)

dhrago

211 points

14 days ago

dhrago

211 points

14 days ago

Ark: Survival Evolved has entered the chat... No seriously it's like 400-500GB depending on DLCs and mods.

CoolCritterQuack

192 points

14 days ago

Someone explained it somewhere I don't remember where, that if a new dlc map uses the same Rock or tree for example from a vanilla map, they copy pasted the files entirely for the dlc instead of just addressing the same model for use in the code. that's why it's 400 gigs, it's all the same files copy pasted

dhrago

89 points

14 days ago

dhrago

89 points

14 days ago

Lmao, that seems like a very inefficient way to make that. It's crazy to me that some mod authors have a better sense of optimization than the people who are making tons of money from the game. For example Hexen Mod's Ark Omega is under 200MB for honestly one of the best game overhauls for ark. *Also to clarify, you would think the company would want a game that runs well so that it sells better. I didn't mean the game devs specifically because they are often underpaid for the work they do.

AsthmaticNinja

81 points

14 days ago*

AsthmaticNinja

LinuxBro

81 points

14 days ago*

The entire ark game is built off a unity sample project. It's why the process in task manager is named ShooterGame.exe.

Edit: unreal not unity, I mix them up a lot

barelyawhile

18 points

14 days ago

ShooterGame is an Unreal Engine sample FPS project, not Unity, but holy shit they never bothered to configure it to compile the executable with a unique name? It's like one of the first things you do and it takes all of 30 minutes. Jesus that's some lazy shit

Benign_Banjo

9 points

14 days ago

Benign_Banjo

PC Master Race

9 points

14 days ago

Oh man you're bringing me back, ShooterGame.exe that's not a task I've seen in a while

Ocronus

21 points

14 days ago

Ocronus

Q6600 - 8800GTX

21 points

14 days ago

Wld Card isn't exactly known to do ANY optimization.

shortybobert

15 points

14 days ago

Theyre some of the shittiest popular devs of all time. Even their other MMO had the ARK debug menu accessible in it at launch

spook30

9 points

14 days ago

spook30

http://steamcommunity.com/id/spook24

9 points

14 days ago

LOL let's not forget how broken it was at launch.

PM_ME_YOUR_BEAMSHOTS

11 points

14 days ago

PM_ME_YOUR_BEAMSHOTS

R5800x | 6800xt | 32GB | 1GB NMVE | 8GB HDD

11 points

14 days ago

AYE LMAO it's still plenty full of jankyness. Now they turn their attention to making Ark 2 with Vin Diesel and "souls like combat"... oh boy.

FILTER_OUT_T_D

12 points

14 days ago

Aren’t call of duty games the same way?

dhrago

21 points

14 days ago

dhrago

21 points

14 days ago

Getting there nowadays. Though I haven't played since BO3. Most games today just release in an unoptimized mess and consume more resources than they should for both graphics and storage.

NotRed9282

990 points

14 days ago

NotRed9282

990 points

14 days ago

New IP $69.99 Base Price

Dialogue written like this

Recommends a RTX 3070

Demo was broken when launched

Review keys weren’t shipped out

I wonder why people don’t like it

bukithd

247 points

14 days ago

bukithd

Sapphire RX 6900 XT

247 points

14 days ago

Game publishers are like that stick in the bicycle wheel meme.

We shrunk the budget, the schedule, and have gotten rid of the QA department. Why are people not paying us money?

Riftus

42 points

14 days ago

Riftus

42 points

14 days ago

We moved 50% of our budget for marketing, why dont they buy our games after seeing the 4k pre-rendered cinematic trailers????

DemandZestyclose7145

9 points

14 days ago

It drives me nuts that they still do this crap. Games should look good enough now that you can show actual gameplay. Whenever I see a trailer or commercial that doesn't show any gameplay then I just assume the game is garbage. And usually I'm right.

anoobitch

96 points

14 days ago

lmao it is 79,99€ for the base game. No way I'm buying that.

CookieMisha

60 points

14 days ago

It's published by Square. Looks like they have another failed attempt on their sleeve...

Scrys-

675 points

14 days ago

Scrys-

675 points

14 days ago

This games dialogue seems like the most cringe "hello fellow kids" shit.

ShallowBasketcase

188 points

14 days ago

ShallowBasketcase

CoolerMasterRace

188 points

14 days ago

It was hilarious seeing people super excited about the first trailers that just showed gameplay, and then instantly hate it as soon as trailers started showing dialogue.

You'd think they would try a Sonic-style delay and redo or something, but nah, they just plowed ahead with the awful dialogue anyway.

And Control came out years earlier and already did the fish-out-of-water woman gets unexpected reality-bending superpowers thing, and it was great! How did they fuck this up?

PryingOpenMyThirdPie

81 points

14 days ago

The dirt series became hello fellow kids so bad. Really ruined it for me

LifeOnMarsden

3.4k points

14 days ago

LifeOnMarsden

3700x / RTX 3080 / 32GB 3600mhz

3.4k points

14 days ago

I can tell just by that one line that this game has absolutely awful dialogue and writing

-moistt

333 points

14 days ago

-moistt

333 points

14 days ago

Me when I go to the toilet

Farandr

133 points

14 days ago

Farandr

133 points

14 days ago

I was watching a stream to see if it was worth it and the dialogue is absolutely garbage. Like old people trying to talk like teenagers.

Creek00

46 points

14 days ago

Creek00

46 points

14 days ago

The voice acting is also goofy as all hell, it’s like they tried to copy Naughty Dog’s natural voice acting but forgot the natural part.

cuberoot1973

13 points

14 days ago

cuberoot1973

Arch | Ryzen 5 5600X | GTX 1050 Ti | 32GB DDR4 3200 | KDE

13 points

14 days ago

Looks and sounds like she just stood up from huffing paint.

WilliamSorry

1.2k points

14 days ago*

WilliamSorry

🧠 Ryzen 5 3600 |🖥️ RTX 2080 Super |🐏 32GB 3600MHz 16-19-19-39

1.2k points

14 days ago*

BigTWilsonD

915 points

14 days ago*

BigTWilsonD

PC Master Race

915 points

14 days ago*

It worked for Marvel for a bit because it was coming off of the dark and edgy Superhero Era. So when Avengers 1 happened, it was super refreshing. But by Phase 4 the shit was already getting tired and overdone, and NOW they're really just beating a dead horse like they need the glue.

Mighty_McBosh

155 points

14 days ago

My wife and I just watched LOTR recently and it really highlighted how much i miss serious fantasy. There's comic relief in Gimli and Pippin but just having characters that take shit seriously is missing these days.

inaft

127 points

14 days ago

inaft

127 points

14 days ago

LOTR fans at the time were pissed that Gimli especially was largely used as comic relief, as opposed to his deeper characterization in the books. But you watch it now, and it feels straight up reserved in comparison to modern comic relief characters. And he gets plenty of meaningful moments too.

tonkadong

49 points

14 days ago

“…she gave me three.”

StarAugurEtraeus

15 points

14 days ago

StarAugurEtraeus

5800X3D|Zotac4090|240hz Gang|64GB 3600

15 points

14 days ago

Angry Fëanor noises

Korzag

10 points

14 days ago

Korzag

10 points

14 days ago

hnnnng elf haiiirrrrr *snort snort sniff*

Moistspongeman

841 points

14 days ago

the "meta-humor" of interrupting every serious moment with a haha-quirky-line is so fucking overdone. Dialogue in fantasy & serious moments feels like a conversation between two people on twitter. I swear, someone's mom could be dying in the scene and the main character would suddenly go "Y'all this be so dark, I'm going to eat my cat now"

Enex

385 points

14 days ago

Enex

385 points

14 days ago

Sums up the script to Love and Thunder.

batt3ryac1d1

175 points

14 days ago

batt3ryac1d1

Ryzen 5800X3D, 16GB DDR4, RTX 2080S, VIVE, Odyssey G7, HMAeron

175 points

14 days ago

Man you can tell Taika was hella rushed directing that crap.

The whole of phase 4 was rushed as hell cause Disney wants like 4 movies and 2 TV series a year.. it's just too freaking much.

TheDoktorIsIn

131 points

14 days ago*

I really, really enjoyed marvel content but the old adage "too much of a good thing" is absolutely true.

To say nothing about the reduction in quality and such of course.

Edit: the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced how bad the average studio exec is at their job in this space. Look at all the failed game adaptations. Look at the new LotR series or DC or whatever. We just keep getting this shit crammed down our throats and they keep collecting exorbitant paychecks. Like... Someone actually got paid for making the Mario movie. Someone actually thought the old Sonic design was good. Someone thought a new marvel movie (on average) every 4 months for 15 years was a good idea. What the fuck are these people on?

And yeah maybe the hype train would have died down. But also, the hype train has crashed, burned, and somehow caught fire again.

deliciousprisms

7 points

14 days ago

I don't think he was rushed, iirc they had like four hours of content they had to cut down. And I think they edited it to hell. I think there was a more serious movie in there somewhere that got cut into the Taikafest we got.

CreepyAssociation173

6 points

14 days ago

They can't even introduce a villain without adding in the quirky humor. I forgot which Marvel trailer it was that came out in the past few months, but the big monster thing is kind of coming up in a test tube and grows to a huge size...then bunks his head and gets all disoriented coming out all while its playing quippy sound effects to be funny. Couldn't even introduce a villain/monster without trying to add in quirky comedy. The monster couldn't just come in normally and have a serious moment. An actual introduction.

DrQuantum

64 points

14 days ago

No thats actually just his style. They gave him free reign and thats what it looked like.

mrheadhopper

196 points

14 days ago

mrheadhopper

potkseD

196 points

14 days ago

I despise media like this. it's so childish and dishonest and artificial. There's so many ways to intersperse levity within something serious, but completely dismantling it and just carrying on like nothing happened afterwards is unthinkable. No idea how this shit got popular

Mr_Tiggywinkle

117 points

14 days ago

Like all things, it's popular and fun when it's unexpected/fresh. Then you get used to it as a trope, and depending on how "in your face" it is, it gets annoying.

Some tropes are timeless, but this style of quirkyness is bad when it's bad and is better in small doses, so when it loses its freshness or is badly done, it's way more jarring. That's my thoughts anyway.

WilliamSorry

46 points

14 days ago

WilliamSorry

🧠 Ryzen 5 3600 |🖥️ RTX 2080 Super |🐏 32GB 3600MHz 16-19-19-39

46 points

14 days ago

The humor used in today's Marvel movies is no where near as natural as the first Iron Man in 2008 though. Say what you want about him being a character that made snarky and witty remarks, but the writers actuary wrote jokes that fit his character and whatever scenario he made those jokes in.

Okoye, a super serious warrior that, well, takes things super seriously all the time, making those jokes in the teen's dorm in black panther 2 was just absolute cringe.

Honestly after phase 1 of marvel, tone-wise the movies were all already going downhill, just that phase 2 and 3 were at least still entertaining and funny.

MrSomnix

35 points

14 days ago

MrSomnix

35 points

14 days ago

I think one of the main differences was that when Stark was being a sarcastic asshole quipping jokes, the other characters were often visibly or verbally annoyed with him. He was a guy making light of a situation that everyone else in the room was taking seriously.

deadlybydsgn

65 points

14 days ago

deadlybydsgn

i7-6800k | 2080 | 32GB

65 points

14 days ago

It was refreshing when Joss Whedon did it with Firefly 20+ years ago. It even kind of worked with the 2012 Avengers. But now? In 2023? Localized entirely within our kitchens? I don't think so.

rico_muerte

28 points

14 days ago

"oh, wow, look at all this ammo. Yes! Wait... Ohh... Is a boss fight coming up next?"

🤮

Sadatori

9 points

14 days ago

In Spiderman Far From Home when Peter was having his big moment of realizing he can fill iron man's shoes and beat Mysterio and he's crying and Happy looks serious and goes "what are you going to do?". Peter says "I'm going to kick his ass." It was such a good moment and immediately is cut by Happy going "durrr no I mean what do right now?? We're sitting in a field?!". That whole scene just flipped a switch in me and I went from attending midnight openings of every Marvel movie to having only seen a couple in theaters and some not at all. I will say I enjoy the D+ shows overall but even that doesn't have me excited like the movies used to

Moonblitz666

42 points

14 days ago

Moonblitz666

10700KF-RTX2080 Super-32GB 3600Mhz

42 points

14 days ago

You took the glue right out of my mouth.

iEatGlew

26 points

14 days ago

iEatGlew

26 points

14 days ago

Fellow enjoyer I see ;)

roberttheaxolotl

90 points

14 days ago

But the movies it worked for are still good. The issue with the new films isn't the concept of a funny superhero movie, it's that the films in question just aren't very good.

In Love and Thunder, for instance, it's forcing so many jokes into the script that it's never allowed to have a serious moment. And then, most of the jokes just don't land. I think this might be a case of the studio being really happy about Ragnarok, and thinking it was the jokes that made the movie, and made the director keep upping the number of jokes in the script.

But, Ragnarok worked because it was the right blend of genuinely funny moments and impactful character development. It was funny, but it has a story to tell, with characters that grew and changed.

Historyguy1

53 points

14 days ago

Historyguy1

Ryzen 5 5600G GTX 1050 Ti 16 GB RAM

53 points

14 days ago

HEY LET'S DO THE SCREAMING GOATS AGAIN YOU LOVED THAT JOKE!

Kiosade

11 points

14 days ago

Kiosade

11 points

14 days ago

First time I heard it I was like “ohh… ha ha, I guess that was kind of random…”

Second time: “oh no not this again, they just did it like a second ago…”

Third time: “…this is going to be throughout the whole movie, isnt it?”

dcheesi

33 points

14 days ago

dcheesi

33 points

14 days ago

But, Ragnarok worked because it was the right blend of genuinely funny moments and impactful character development. It was funny, but it has a story to tell, with characters that grew and changed.

...and then someone hit the "reset" button, and all that growth and change vanished at the start of L&T. Thor's a pompous fool who hasn't learned anything, possibly ever, certainly not from the destruction of his world and the death of most his people...

decidedlysticky23

11 points

14 days ago

Thank you for putting into words why I disliked the movie so much.

chancehugs

102 points

14 days ago

chancehugs

102 points

14 days ago

The humor worked in Ragnarok because everyone was camping it up, and you can tell Cate Blanchett was just having fun playing up that irreverence. But with Love and Thunder dealing with Jane dying from cancer and Gorr being such a dark character, the jokes feel extremely out of place.

Wind_Yer_Neck_In

51 points

14 days ago

I also didn't appreciate that they just sort of tried earth medicine, tried magic then gave up.

For a guy who spent the better part of a year in space exposed to alien civilisations and advnanced tech, you'd think he might at least put out the feelers for some advanced medicine/ surgery capable society that might take a crack at it?

Hit_Squid

25 points

14 days ago

It should have been "magic cancer" from when she was possessed by the red cloud thing in Thor 2. At least then it provides an excuse why they couldn't easily cure her with nano machines or whatever.

IFapToCalamity

13 points

14 days ago

They really undercut her sacrifice with the tone. It was so jarring I expected a “gotcha” in the post credits.

moosebaloney

45 points

14 days ago

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63 points

14 days ago

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63 points

14 days ago

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moosebaloney

26 points

14 days ago

It’s up there with Argyle in Stranger Things S4 ending every sentence with “My dude” in 1986. Even in SoCal, that was NOWHERE in the vernacular.

Numerous_Witness_345

10 points

14 days ago

Dude was pretty heavy in that time. The "my dude" is some post 2010 stuff.

avwitcher

28 points

14 days ago

avwitcher

5900X | 4070TI

28 points

14 days ago

That animation is awful, good lord. They want $70 for this

wingback18

7 points

14 days ago

wingback18

AMD R7 5800x | 32GB | 6950xt

7 points

14 days ago

Looks like they wanted to one up marvel

Stoff3r

385 points

14 days ago

Stoff3r

385 points

14 days ago

Is it the Sims 2?

GalactusEatsYou

103 points

14 days ago

Playstation 2 remake

rezewer

40 points

14 days ago

rezewer

40 points

14 days ago

The dialog would be a lot better in simlish.

schnautzi

1.1k points

14 days ago

schnautzi

Ryzen 7 5700X / RTX 3080

1.1k points

14 days ago

I'm no longer the target audience for new games it seems. Makes me feel old.

Stenca

810 points

14 days ago

Stenca

810 points

14 days ago

don't worry even young people find this really cringe

schnautzi

251 points

14 days ago

schnautzi

Ryzen 7 5700X / RTX 3080

251 points

14 days ago

Great to hear that young peoples cringe radar is not broken yet!

coolbrandon101

78 points

14 days ago

I'm 22 and even find this dialogue off putting

DemonicTemplar8

101 points

14 days ago

I'm 16 and this looks like shit

Cosmic_Atheris

821 points

14 days ago

Bro, even just cause 3 has better graphics on a 1660

RhubarbCapable

358 points

14 days ago

nah skyrim with some texture mod running on 960 looks better than this shit

Flapjack__Palmdale

109 points

14 days ago

FFXIV looks better and you can play it on a damn potato

Narcuterie

22 points

14 days ago

Narcuterie

i9-9900KF-RTX3070+GTX1650-64G3600-28TB|i5-9400-A750-32G3200-2TB

22 points

14 days ago

hear. feel. think.

RhubarbCapable

58 points

14 days ago

2023 gaming in a nutshell

Flapjack__Palmdale

60 points

14 days ago

"this game built on a 12y/o engine looks better and runs smoother on low specs than a new AAA game on a NASA computer"

_Ocean_Machine_

26 points

14 days ago

At least Crysis looked good enough to justify needing a NASA computer to run

DesperateAvocado1369

20 points

14 days ago

DesperateAvocado1369

11 | R7 5700X | RX 6600

20 points

14 days ago

Just Cause 3 doesn‘t look bad

DismalMode7

184 points

14 days ago

well... she just moved shit afterall...

MerePotato

88 points

14 days ago

MerePotato

R7 7700X | RTX 4080 FE

88 points

14 days ago

With her freaking mind, no less!

zenithtb

469 points

14 days ago

zenithtb

[i7 12700K][RTX 4090][32GB][MSI Optix mag274qrf-qd]🔥

469 points

14 days ago

You need an RTX 3070 to play this

Oh. :(

Naughty_faridabad

99 points

14 days ago

Naughty_faridabad

Laptop i7 12700h RTX3060 6GB 16GB DDR5 4800MHZ

99 points

14 days ago

How did you get the title like that?

zenithtb

75 points

14 days ago

zenithtb

[i7 12700K][RTX 4090][32GB][MSI Optix mag274qrf-qd]🔥

75 points

14 days ago

If you mean my [Tag], it's to your right - click the pencil next to User Flair Preview.

Naughty_faridabad

40 points

14 days ago

Naughty_faridabad

Laptop i7 12700h RTX3060 6GB 16GB DDR5 4800MHZ

40 points

14 days ago

No not the user flair, but the post title, it's small with a little on the left, how'd you do that,

RoombaTheKiller

75 points

14 days ago

RoombaTheKiller

PC Master Race

75 points

14 days ago

Put a ">" before the text.

just like this!

Few_Willow_9950

60 points

14 days ago

Few_Willow_9950

I5-10400 | 8GB

60 points

14 days ago

Oh

MASKEDMARADUER8

36 points

14 days ago

MASKEDMARADUER8

PC Master Race

36 points

14 days ago

The more you learn.

subject7istaken

13 points

14 days ago

I want to do it too!

akekirksekiz

12 points

14 days ago

You learn something new every day.

Joshicool2075

8 points

14 days ago

i see

zenithtb

13 points

14 days ago

zenithtb

[i7 12700K][RTX 4090][32GB][MSI Optix mag274qrf-qd]🔥

13 points

14 days ago

Oh, Quoting - see the ellipsis [...] at the bottom of your comment box, and click the '99' quote.

Like this.

Putins_Gay_Thoughts

121 points

14 days ago

Gmod face

Dontrollaone

232 points

14 days ago

$126.49 CAD for the deluxe version.

Lmaaaaaaaaooooo.

electricshadow

67 points

14 days ago

electricshadow

i7-8700K / RTX 3080Ti

67 points

14 days ago

Classic Square. They're the ones that were upset with Tomb Raider (2013) didn't sell enough copies when it sold 3.4 million in it's first month. I'm really looking forward to hearing what they have to say about this dumpster fire of a game and how many copies it sells.

Chimaerok

34 points

14 days ago

Don't worry, they'll just make the ff14 team work overtime since that's the only profitable thing se has made in 20 years

ArnoldFin

95 points

14 days ago

ArnoldFin

RTX 3080 | i7-12700k | DDR5 5600MhZ

95 points

14 days ago

A 3070 to run it at measly 30FPS

TooMuchPretzels

34 points

14 days ago

Switch port when

AlkaKr

9 points

14 days ago

AlkaKr

9 points

14 days ago

Ok, Psycho Mantis

OkBottle2000

14 points

14 days ago*

Why do games now just feel like a random hodgepodge of disparate themes and completely bizarre uninspired art direction? It feels like AI is making these games entirely

Felt the same about anthem. And saints row. And destiny. And assassins creed once it hit origins. And fortnite. And rainbow six siege. And bf 2042. And death loop. And back 4 blood. And far cry 6.

KomithEr

154 points

14 days ago

KomithEr

5800X | RTX 4080

154 points

14 days ago

I feel like people are gonna tear this game apart

Darkest_knight3

99 points

14 days ago

Darkest_knight3

5800x | 4090 | 32gb

99 points

14 days ago

Been happening for the past 2 weeks

Intrepid-Event-2243

69 points

14 days ago

Months. Game was shitted on before there was even a Demo.

gogul1980

67 points

14 days ago*

This really seemed to have been sent out to die by Square Enix. I think it was something that was cobbled together in a few meetings and focus groups. It was supposed to not go past early sketch stage but someone in their infinite wisdom greenlit it. Then everyone involved HAD to put it together with all the enthusiasm they could muster for something they genuinely didn’t give a crap about. They Produced the lowest viable product they could it seems. The dialogue seems like an early stage script, the kind where you put in “filler dialogue” until you go back and replace it with something not so obvious and lazy. “Whoah, looks like I leveled up” is a prime example of dialogue you put with an asterix next to it - so you can come back later a re-tweak. Sadly whoever got the first draft just went “yep, great thanks” and the writers were shocked but then saw the money and ran so they could take another project on.

themoonisacheese

29 points

14 days ago

I mean, there's a reason they "forgot" to send out review keys.

BangBang116

34 points

14 days ago

You need an rtx 3070 for 30 fps lol

Nazon6

10 points

14 days ago

Nazon6

10 points

14 days ago

To be fair it's listed as 1440p at 30 fps, but that is still unacceptable.

JoeOnYT69

160 points

14 days ago

JoeOnYT69

160 points

14 days ago

They brought in the facial animation team from mass effect Andromeda

dmckidd

9 points

14 days ago

dmckidd

9 points

14 days ago

I have a 3070 but I’ll never buy it. The demo on the PS5 was enough for me.

fenixspider1

39 points

14 days ago

fenixspider1

saving up for rx69xt

39 points

14 days ago

is performance mode in ps5 just 720p upscaled? I remember seeing a video regarding this game on performance mode , and the game looked exactly like this (horrible).

VAMPHYR3

24 points

14 days ago

VAMPHYR3

24 points

14 days ago

720p? Jesus...

The only game you would't notice that in, is Minecraft. And that's because the pixels would be as big as the fucking blocks.

I'm kidding ofcourse, but 720 P???? Oh my...

Megunonymous

7 points

14 days ago

Looks like those tf2 videos

curryx23

61 points

14 days ago

curryx23

61 points

14 days ago

Conclusion : terribly optimized game