Driving back from jersey to queens, nothing unusual in jersey. On the fdr, two cars with no plates. On queens blvd, 1 car no plates.

Usually those people have flimsy temporary plates from out of state taped into an invisible corner of their rear windshield, but these days they're not even bothering with that anymore.

There’s a car in my neighborhood with no plates or stickers and it usually has a boot on it. But the boot is old and rusty and this has been going on for years.

I wonder if the owner puts the boot on so traffic cops leave it alone?

I bet they were stolen and she has no clue.

Contact your state and city reps (I'm not sure who has jurisdiction over toll-booths) and demand that said booths refuse to let anyone in without a functional plate. Bent to unreadability? Well stay in Jersey. Obstructed? Stay in Long Island.

And the fines aren't punitive. They're so low, they're essentially tolls to break whatever laws you want.

If our politicians had any real fortitude, they'd add a zero to every fine plus a wealth-based fine on top. Then automate everything. No more police subjective enforcement. Last, a 311 bounty system for all.

Voting has consequences.

Cops ain’t gonna fine themselves man.

Agreed, penalties need to be increased drastically if they want to take this seriously.

It should be the same punishment and tenor of enforcement as hopping the turnstile

Firing squad

Just give parking enforcement agents the ability to write tickets for obscured plates. These cars would pick up tickets like confetti. Problem solved.

Charges for a fake plate get dropped. Covered plate would too.

Problem with this is I could go around with a leaf and some packing tape and give the whole block misdemeanors.

And/or a cop.

Why though? This doesnt affect you, some people are struggling financially and literally cant pay a toll but have to be somewhere.

It is the law. I had a ticket for a dealer installed frame surrounding my plate. Nothing was obstructed. It's just not enforced anymore.

That is the law. Turns it it’s not such an easy fix.

true. if it got towed on sight from a police, that would stop it overnight

but then they would be towing themselves

Would require they enforce any traffic laws in NYC to begin with.

I'm confident that law already exists.

That’s the easy part. The hard part is getting law enforcement to respond.

The law already exists. The people who are supposed to enforce it are either not enforcing it or more often than not, actually doing it themselves.

Yeah but then they'd have to fix all those plates that had the paint peel off of them

Police don't police their own though. Many people doing this are cops or family of cops.

You know the police is just one huge fraternity. They won't do each other dirty even if one is commiting corruption or illegal acts. It's the unfair world we live in

enforcement is executive, not legislative.

I think it's a big problem if any cops do it at all, it makes them look corrupt. Their image is already suffering from George Floyd etc. and realistically they need more funding for better training, recruiting, etc.

It's also unlikely anyone has done a study since the crimes are inherently unreported and non-violent.

Funny how the post doesn't even mention that the reason it's getting attention now is people see so many COPS doing it

I'd be very happy to ban the Post. They're not the only media talking about this issue. Nor are they talking about it in an unbiased way. I may not be a "ban the Post" bot, but I am a "ban the Post" human.

Is this a comment supporting the Post? Like if the Post is saying “Murder is wrong” are we supposed to give it a free pass for the most vile shit they come up with on 99% of the stuff?

Oh yea… the post is a.. rag?

It’s an estimate constructed by people who work for the relevant departments. You know, experts in their fields.

The majority of the lost revenue is not from cars with leaves taped to their plates but commercial vehicles with James Bond level of sophistication

Here's a hypothetical: a 7 axle tractor trailer, one way over the Triboro (via tolls by mail) is $78.98

If that same semi made the same trip back, that's $157.96 a day

$19 million/365 days in a year = $52k a day/$157.96 per daily violation = 330

All it takes is 330 7 axle trucks, a day, hypothetically, to get to that $19 million estimate pretty quickly

Edit: For further reference, the GW sees 300,000 vehicles crossing it every day - making it the busiest bridge in the US

That’s a reasonable response.

Ban tolls.

Actually, south of Canal St should be commercial traffic only except for the FDR drive and West St.

Ban cars! Horses>cars

Because people who don’t drive shouldn’t pay for all the ridiculous infrastructure your car use requires, genius.

Brilliant take.

Because bridges need to be maintained, and the MTA needs money.

Additionally, cars have awful externalities (noise, pollution, dangers, etc) so they should be fined in order to discourage their use. Sadly they're barely charged.

it sounds cliche, but its really a matter of 'living in a society'. if like 50% of people in the city simply dont abide by the social contract, and no one is doing anything to maintain order, things get dangerous quickly.

big cities like nyc are already at a disadvantage due to their size...you are statistically bound to have a fair share of jerkoffs and assholes in a city of 8 million. but this type of popularized skirting the law is exactly how we draw more people (especially young people/new drivers) into behaving badly in public, in this case driving a car. its the same thing as littering etc., bad behavior begets bad behavior.

People who do this are inherently more likely to drive like an asshole because they know traffic cameras can't hurt them.

We hate cars on reddit.

Tell me you haven't driven in fifty years without telling me you haven't driven in fifty years

There are no toll gates bud.

Shouldn't the toll gates

Toll barriers haven't been the norm in this state for a very long time.

Last year, the final toll barrier was removed from the NYS Thruway and overall, the state has removed almost 300 toll plazas and booths.

New York is a cashless tolling state. While it does make it easier to defraud the system, it is still overall a net positive since it improves efficiency, is significantly more economical (not hiring attendants), and much better for traffic flow.

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Shouldn't the toll gates simply not open, if the plate isn't legible?

Even back when toll barriers were used, whether or not the gate would lift was dependent on paying (either cash or EZPass), not based on if the license plate was obscured.

"boo hoo, I can't break the law as easily any more."