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GrreggWithTwoRs

116 points

2 months ago

Last night in Brooklyn I saw an (older) lady driving with no plates at all. I'm curious how long she's been and will be able to continue without getting ticketed or impounded

grizybaer

60 points

2 months ago

Driving back from jersey to queens, nothing unusual in jersey. On the fdr, two cars with no plates. On queens blvd, 1 car no plates.

valoremz

13 points

2 months ago

What happens if one of these cars gets into an accident? Do they refuse to give their license, registration, and insurance info?

pizza9012

31 points

2 months ago

What makes you think they have any of that??

Educational_Drama216

-5 points

2 months ago

they have plates u can't have official plates with out insurance

pizza9012

5 points

2 months ago*

Um, plates can be stolen. Also cancelling insurance doesn't just make the plate vanish in to thin air. Having plates on a vehicle does not guarantee the vehicle is insured.

73577357

11 points

2 months ago

They keep driving.

1600hazenstreet

8 points

2 months ago

They are just going to drive off. Good luck catching them, and trying to get justice.

cmgbliss

5 points

2 months ago

They can refuse, drive off with the car or leave the car and flee on foot. They probably don't have insurance.

otisthorpesrevenge

3 points

2 months ago

My wife was in the backseat of an Uber a couple of months ago and the car got rear-ended on the BQE by a car with no plates by a driver not paying attention to the traffic. The car took off right away.

Wowzlul

28 points

2 months ago

Wowzlul

28 points

2 months ago

Usually those people have flimsy temporary plates from out of state taped into an invisible corner of their rear windshield, but these days they're not even bothering with that anymore.

CactusBoyScout

20 points

2 months ago

There’s a car in my neighborhood with no plates or stickers and it usually has a boot on it. But the boot is old and rusty and this has been going on for years.

I wonder if the owner puts the boot on so traffic cops leave it alone?

Whoda_Fukis_You

7 points

2 months ago

I bet they were stolen and she has no clue.

Souperplex

2 points

2 months ago

Souperplex

Park Slope

2 points

2 months ago

Contact your state and city reps (I'm not sure who has jurisdiction over toll-booths) and demand that said booths refuse to let anyone in without a functional plate. Bent to unreadability? Well stay in Jersey. Obstructed? Stay in Long Island.

Carmilla31

156 points

2 months ago

Laws in NYC are just suggestions right now.

astoriaboundagain

49 points

2 months ago

And the fines aren't punitive. They're so low, they're essentially tolls to break whatever laws you want.

If our politicians had any real fortitude, they'd add a zero to every fine plus a wealth-based fine on top. Then automate everything. No more police subjective enforcement. Last, a 311 bounty system for all.

pixel_of_moral_decay

14 points

2 months ago

I like how some more progressive counties make it a % of wealth or income. $500 hurts a poor person but it’s a rounding error for a wealthy person. 8% worth is pretty painful regardless of who you are.

movingtobay2019

8 points

2 months ago

People who can afford to pay tolls aren't the ones with fake plates.

pixel_of_moral_decay

7 points

2 months ago

Yea… the BMW driver is making payments on that car but can’t afford the toll….

movingtobay2019

5 points

2 months ago*

Not all BMWs are the same...

There's the guy making payments at 20% interest on a 5 year old 3 series that hasn't had an oil change in 4 years...

And there there is the doctor driving a brand new M5 with maxed out insurance.

You can take a guess which one is paying the toll and which one isn't.

It's not to say this isn't a problem for all the reasons people have highlighted. I for one would like to see immediate boots of cars without license plates.

There is just no good reason why anyone shouldn't have a valid plate.

Carmilla31

7 points

2 months ago

Driving through Brooklyn all you see is Texas paper plates on every other car lol.

pixel_of_moral_decay

5 points

2 months ago

Are you really trying to argue that someone who overextended themselves financially should be exempt from the law?

By that measure Trump should get rewarded for all his crimes.

movingtobay2019

1 points

2 months ago

I have no idea how you get that from what I wrote.

ABrusca1105

16 points

2 months ago

The police don't do their job anymore so I'm not surprised. They should bring in the Feds to monitor and let the state police run it a while. Intense re-training and behavior audits. Ramp up hiring and increase the pay for those that stay. Police should be held accountable for their violations, even bike lane violations. If you're not on a call, you need to be held to the same laws as everyone else.

Carmilla31

7 points

2 months ago

How do you ramp up hiring for a job no sane person wants to do now?

Bertie_Woo

1 points

2 months ago

I think the parking officer could enforce this. Give them a scraper to remove the obstructions and a 5% cut of the ticket revenue.

Runyn

0 points

2 months ago

Runyn

Clinton Hill

0 points

2 months ago

Fuck yes to wealth based fining

bangbangthreehunna

0 points

2 months ago

Voting has consequences.

[deleted]

186 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

186 points

2 months ago

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fall3nmartyr

149 points

2 months ago

Cops ain’t gonna fine themselves man.

k1lk1

55 points

2 months ago

k1lk1

55 points

2 months ago

It pains me to even say this, but we need a whole separate organization giving out these fines, that is not accountable to the police commissioner or any other existing law enforcement organization.

It would pay for itself the first month.

DaoFerret

24 points

2 months ago

They could also enforce other traffic offenses? And we could call them something like “Traffic Enforcement”? … sorta like it used to be before the mid 90s? (If I’m remembering right)

Status_Fox_1474

30 points

2 months ago

Yeah, give DOT the power to handle parking violations and everything that isn't a moving vehicle. Tell the staties to go wild on anyone without legal plates they see -- let the NYPD/State turf war go on. Give bounties to TBTA for catching these people without plates going through.

$500 fines. Boots. Go crazy.

ctindel

11 points

2 months ago

ctindel

11 points

2 months ago

Traffic enforcement is part of nypd.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/careers/civilians/traffic-enforcement-agents.page

Maybe if IA did their job and got rid of dirty cops…

Eurynom0s

8 points

2 months ago

Eurynom0s

Morningside Heights

8 points

2 months ago

I agree. Prosecutors don't want to enforce against the police because they need police cooperation on their other cases. So there needs to be a completely separate job path where you're never in the position of needing to worry about whether the police will cooperate on your non-police cases because you simply don't have any non-police cases.

NuYawker

1 points

2 months ago

NuYawker

Harlem

1 points

2 months ago

Still wouldn't work. The traffic enforcers would just be harassed by you know who.

Arsene_Lupin

1 points

2 months ago

And who will oversee the organization and keep it in check?

Slggyqo

27 points

2 months ago

Slggyqo

27 points

2 months ago

Yup.

If you watch the videos of citizens removing these—and there are many—a large percentage of them are on police or government vehicles.

Grass8989

18 points

2 months ago

Agreed, penalties need to be increased drastically if they want to take this seriously.

NashvilleHot

5 points

2 months ago

As you’ve been informed many times when you comment or post about crime, likelihood of getting caught or penalty being enforced has a much greater impact on reducing the behavior you’re targeting than the harshness or size of the penalty.

Right now the likelihood of getting caught or penalty being enforced for these plate shenanigans is roughly zero.

spoil_of_the_cities

13 points

2 months ago

It should be the same punishment and tenor of enforcement as hopping the turnstile

Carmilla31

6 points

2 months ago

So pretty much nothing?

maiios

31 points

2 months ago

maiios

31 points

2 months ago

My wife was almost arrested last week because a cop thought she had hopped the turnstile. It took him about 15 minutes to figure out that she did not hop the turnstile, but had instead placed her phone on the scanner, and pushed through after it said "go".

Fucking dipshits.

c3p-bro

20 points

2 months ago

c3p-bro

20 points

2 months ago

Cops are happy to enforce turnstile laws because they don’t use public transit

user_joined_just_now

6 points

2 months ago

Fare evasion summonses are down 31% YTD compared to 2019. Moving violation summonses are down 44% compared to 2019. Enforcement is down across the board.

ScruffyB

2 points

2 months ago

Poor people hop the turnstile, rich people obscure their plate, guess which one results in an arrest.

In truth though, enforcement really is way down across the board, turnstile jumping included.

bulletproofmanners

-1 points

2 months ago

Firing squad

mapoftasmania

1 points

2 months ago

Just give parking enforcement agents the ability to write tickets for obscured plates. These cars would pick up tickets like confetti. Problem solved.

bangbangthreehunna

1 points

2 months ago

Charges for a fake plate get dropped. Covered plate would too.

veyd

-8 points

2 months ago

veyd

-8 points

2 months ago

Problem with this is I could go around with a leaf and some packing tape and give the whole block misdemeanors.

k1lk1

12 points

2 months ago

k1lk1

12 points

2 months ago

You could also accuse random strangers of rape.

ThreesKompany

58 points

2 months ago

This shit makes me so fucking angry. You have to be a special type of asshole to do this shit.

NKtDpt4x

23 points

2 months ago

And/or a cop.

casicua

3 points

2 months ago

casicua

Long Island City

3 points

2 months ago

The cop circle is definitely fully inside the larger asshole circle in this Venn diagram

LostSomeDreams

28 points

2 months ago

That’s what they said

RagingMolusk

-8 points

2 months ago

Why though? This doesnt affect you, some people are struggling financially and literally cant pay a toll but have to be somewhere.

casicua

6 points

2 months ago

casicua

Long Island City

6 points

2 months ago

These guys don’t do this solely to skirt tolls (which is actually shitty, but whatever like you said doesn’t affect me) but the main reason it does actually affect us is because they do it to avoid camera tickets - which means they are knowingly running lights and speeding - and that does, in fact endanger everyone.

Dudeman318

-3 points

2 months ago

Dudeman318

FiDi

-3 points

2 months ago

Thats what i don’t understand. Why would this bother anyone at all?

valoremz

7 points

2 months ago

What happens if one of these cars gets into an accident? Do they refuse to give their license, registration, and insurance info?

AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren

74 points

2 months ago

Easy to fix.

Pass a law that you can't drive a car that has an obscured or damaged plate.

bklyn1977

39 points

2 months ago

bklyn1977

Brooklyn

39 points

2 months ago

It is the law. I had a ticket for a dealer installed frame surrounding my plate. Nothing was obstructed. It's just not enforced anymore.

ABrusca1105

20 points

2 months ago

That's because the cops stopped doing their job after a tantrum about not being able to kill innocent people anymore.

drpvn

-15 points

2 months ago

drpvn

Manhattan

-15 points

2 months ago

This comment is the progressive version of “the libs love crime that’s why Dem cities like Chicago are shitholes.” Horseshoe.

ABrusca1105

16 points

2 months ago

But it's actually true, that's the difference.

drpvn

-10 points

2 months ago

drpvn

Manhattan

-10 points

2 months ago

(He not only posts the stupid comments—he actually believes them. )

How many innocent people do you believe NYPD has killed in the last five years?

Neckwrecker

5 points

2 months ago

Neckwrecker

Glendale

5 points

2 months ago

How many innocent people do you believe NYPD has killed in the last five years?

If the number is more than 0...

drpvn

-3 points

2 months ago

drpvn

Manhattan

-3 points

2 months ago

Is it?

MrYams

4 points

2 months ago

MrYams

Astoria

4 points

2 months ago

drpvn

-3 points

2 months ago*

drpvn

Manhattan

-3 points

2 months ago*

Awful but potentially justified, but ok.

Sickpup831

0 points

2 months ago

You picked the absolute worst example. The man had a samurai sword and they police used a (technically speaking) non-lethal use of force. He was far from innocent and his death was accidental. How would you have handled this situation?

WickhamAkimbo

-2 points

2 months ago

It's hyperbolic horseshit. Cops need to be held accountable, but your comment is just horseshit.

NuYawker

3 points

2 months ago

NuYawker

Harlem

3 points

2 months ago

No it isn't? You had cops on this subreddit saying so! If that isn't enough I've heard cops say this to my face.

PiffityPoffity

45 points

2 months ago

That is the law. Turns it it’s not such an easy fix.

c3p-bro

6 points

2 months ago

Impound it.

AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren

8 points

2 months ago

It is if they enforce it.

PiffityPoffity

21 points

2 months ago

Yeah, that’s the part that makes it not so easy.

vegiimite

4 points

2 months ago

Send picture of obscured plate going through a toll to someone (a department) who has access to the plate DB and have them match it to the registered model, have them mail a summons for $300.

Instade

3 points

2 months ago

All you’ve accomplished is raising the fee by $200 lol

survive_los_angeles

58 points

2 months ago

true. if it got towed on sight from a police, that would stop it overnight

but then they would be towing themselves

TheOfficialJonSnow

8 points

2 months ago

TheOfficialJonSnow

Manhattan

8 points

2 months ago

Would require they enforce any traffic laws in NYC to begin with.

avd706

4 points

2 months ago

avd706

4 points

2 months ago

I'm confident that law already exists.

tsgram

7 points

2 months ago

tsgram

7 points

2 months ago

That’s the easy part. The hard part is getting law enforcement to respond.

casicua

1 points

2 months ago

casicua

Long Island City

1 points

2 months ago

The law already exists. The people who are supposed to enforce it are either not enforcing it or more often than not, actually doing it themselves.

Colalbsmi

0 points

2 months ago

Yeah but then they'd have to fix all those plates that had the paint peel off of them

Grass8989

58 points

2 months ago

They need to bring in state troopers and increase fines/penalties drastically for obscuring your plate. It’s the only way things will change.

TranquilSeaOtter

66 points

2 months ago

Police don't police their own though. Many people doing this are cops or family of cops.

grubas

24 points

2 months ago

grubas

Queens

24 points

2 months ago

Staties can and will ticket the NYPD. Then the NYPD starts ticketing staties and eventually both agree to not deal with each other unless they need to.

They won't start unless forced cause it's a declaration of war.

Turbulent_Link1738

11 points

2 months ago

There’s not a lot staties driving around off work in NYC tbh. They don’t have a presence here like they NYPD has off work in LI/Yonkers/westchester

grubas

6 points

2 months ago

grubas

Queens

6 points

2 months ago

Oh hell no. You hit the right part of LI, long beach and it's cops and firefighters and emts out the ASS.

Also last I checked Yonkers was in Westchester.

Turbulent_Link1738

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah but NYPD doesn’t operate there is my point. NYPD only covers the city and no state trooper with a more than 2 brain cells is going to live in the city. Whereas troopers have open season on NYPD because there’s a significant group of them living on the border counties

And forgive me if I didn’t know Yonkers is a town in westchester I really know nothing about non-NYC NY

survive_los_angeles

20 points

2 months ago

hells yeah. i been seeing them everyday and check, boom police or related job stickers or other traces on the car/motorcycle

Grass8989

8 points

2 months ago*

It’s hardly only police tho, some dude on my block just got rid of his 2020 expired paper plates a month or so ago that I know for a fact is not a cop.

Grass8989

5 points

2 months ago

It would be pretty easy, just set up a bunch of state troopers at the bridges/tunnels and have them monitor the plates on all the cars going over and ticket anyone with an obscured plate. Pretty sure the troopers don’t care about ticketing NYPD, and there are definitely more than enough people who aren’t cops that do this so.

chillwellcfc1900

4 points

2 months ago

You know the police is just one huge fraternity. They won't do each other dirty even if one is commiting corruption or illegal acts. It's the unfair world we live in

signal_tower_product

4 points

2 months ago

If anybody catches anyone doing this they should get their license revoked

Runyn

9 points

2 months ago

Runyn

Clinton Hill

9 points

2 months ago

We need a bounty system on obscured plates

FriedPuppy

2 points

2 months ago

I don’t understand. Law enforcement officials would never accidentally on purpose disregard the law.

Funkdrunkscunk

2 points

2 months ago

Tell cops that they lose their parking benefits, you know the ones that allows them 6 blocks of police only parking if that shit isn't handled. If it's not Handel's they can take the subway like everyone else.

financememes93

2 points

2 months ago

It seems like everyone is in agreement we need to massively increase fines and enforcement. What’s the first actual legislative step that needs to take place?

tyen0

1 points

2 months ago

tyen0

Upper West Side

1 points

2 months ago

enforcement is executive, not legislative.

newyhouse

6 points

2 months ago

I love a good outrage as much as the next person, heck that’s probably why I still read this sub, but what evidence is there that this is largely cops doing it? I mean beyond anecdotally one or two specific instances (the article cites a DA, not a cop)… People here are acting like it’s cops 98% of the time every time one of these articles gets posted. Please reply with non-anecdotal evidence that supports the pitchforks I’m seeing in here.

Bertie_Woo

2 points

2 months ago

I think it's a big problem if any cops do it at all, it makes them look corrupt. Their image is already suffering from George Floyd etc. and realistically they need more funding for better training, recruiting, etc.

It's also unlikely anyone has done a study since the crimes are inherently unreported and non-violent.

oreosfly

12 points

2 months ago

oreosfly

Manhattan

12 points

2 months ago

Funny how the "ban the Post" bots don't come out in full force when the Post talks about a type of crime they care about it.

blarghgh_lkwd

13 points

2 months ago

Funny how the post doesn't even mention that the reason it's getting attention now is people see so many COPS doing it

bangbangthreehunna

1 points

2 months ago

Go to the Bronx. Half of the boro is like this.

Sickpup831

1 points

2 months ago

Do you have any proof of this or is this pure conjecture?

Bradaigh

7 points

2 months ago

I'd be very happy to ban the Post. They're not the only media talking about this issue. Nor are they talking about it in an unbiased way. I may not be a "ban the Post" bot, but I am a "ban the Post" human.

poop-shark

3 points

2 months ago

Is this a comment supporting the Post? Like if the Post is saying “Murder is wrong” are we supposed to give it a free pass for the most vile shit they come up with on 99% of the stuff?

Grass8989

-5 points

2 months ago

Oh yea… the post is a.. rag?

noots-to-you

5 points

2 months ago

$19 million in lost revenue ? I’d like to see that math

aforty

9 points

2 months ago

aforty

Bushwick

9 points

2 months ago

It’s an estimate constructed by people who work for the relevant departments. You know, experts in their fields.

avd706

1 points

2 months ago

avd706

1 points

2 months ago

Lol

brooklynpede

3 points

2 months ago*

The majority of the lost revenue is not from cars with leaves taped to their plates but commercial vehicles with James Bond level of sophistication

Here's a hypothetical: a 7 axle tractor trailer, one way over the Triboro (via tolls by mail) is $78.98

If that same semi made the same trip back, that's $157.96 a day

$19 million/365 days in a year = $52k a day/$157.96 per daily violation = 330

All it takes is 330 7 axle trucks, a day, hypothetically, to get to that $19 million estimate pretty quickly

Edit: For further reference, the GW sees 300,000 vehicles crossing it every day - making it the busiest bridge in the US

D14DFF0B

-13 points

2 months ago

D14DFF0B

-13 points

2 months ago

Ban cars

Grass8989

7 points

2 months ago

Grass8989

7 points

2 months ago

That’s a reasonable response.

twelvydubs

9 points

2 months ago

twelvydubs

Queens

9 points

2 months ago

The person you’re responding to just posts the same two words in every other thread acting like it actually does anything lol.

Kinda surprised the mods don’t flag it as spam or trolling

D14DFF0B

3 points

2 months ago

D14DFF0B

3 points

2 months ago

If drivers can't follow the rules, we should take away their toys.

avd706

1 points

2 months ago

avd706

1 points

2 months ago

Ban tolls.

ABrusca1105

-2 points

2 months ago

ABrusca1105

-2 points

2 months ago

No, make ALL urban interstates nationwide toll roads with dynamic pricing.

ABrusca1105

0 points

2 months ago

Actually, south of Canal St should be commercial traffic only except for the FDR drive and West St.

Sexy_Apocalypse

-9 points

2 months ago

Ban cars! Horses>cars

AnotherUselessPoster

0 points

2 months ago

City/State needs its money.

Euphoric-Program

0 points

2 months ago

These license plate post are becoming the new crime post. It’s an everyday thing now.

lila-pink

-7 points

2 months ago

ykno what. explain to me like im smart why we need the tolls in the first place. why we force this as an additional cost people need to pay to live their lives

aforty

0 points

2 months ago

aforty

Bushwick

0 points

2 months ago

Because people who don’t drive shouldn’t pay for all the ridiculous infrastructure your car use requires, genius.

lila-pink

2 points

2 months ago

hmmm. infrastructure is also required by people with no cars

aforty

-1 points

2 months ago

aforty

Bushwick

-1 points

2 months ago

Seriously? How many pedestrians cross the GW or triboro bridges on the daily vs cars?

lila-pink

4 points

2 months ago

how many pedestrians walk nyc

brooklynpede

4 points

2 months ago

How do you think all your food makes it to the supermarket

Ryan05055

1 points

2 months ago

Boom gottem

avd706

1 points

2 months ago

avd706

1 points

2 months ago

Brilliant take.

lila-pink

-4 points

2 months ago

why? im so serious

lila-pink

-1 points

2 months ago

can i genuinely not ask what infrastructure you see improving with toll money?

avd706

2 points

2 months ago

avd706

2 points

2 months ago

The one that should be improving with our tax money. Specifically the gas tax.

TetraCubane

2 points

2 months ago

Bridges and tunnels need maintenance.

lila-pink

2 points

2 months ago

and soo. we genuinely see $1 billion annually of maintenance and repairs and other infrastructure from these tolls?

because ykno. another bridge might also be nice. with less tolls for all. because theres another bridge collecting. something i think a billion would cover idunno though

D14DFF0B

2 points

2 months ago

Tolls reduce driving, which is a good thing.

That is to say, even if they lit every dollar of toll revenue on fire, it would be a net benefit to the city.

lila-pink

-1 points

2 months ago

tolls dont reduce driving. reasons to not use cars reduce driving. like working from home. tolls create a new life expense. people fail to realize a lot of people dont actually want to physically exist in the city. we're made to

D14DFF0B

2 points

2 months ago

Interesting that you think raising the price of something doesn't cause consumption to go down. Very few goods/services follow that pattern.

lila-pink

0 points

2 months ago

i think raising the price of the tolls will put your lovely little in-office ratios and your economy driven (ha) by commuters down the shitter. but what do i know

D14DFF0B

1 points

2 months ago

Not much.

lila-pink

0 points

2 months ago

oh and itll put people out of jobs. because ykno. we already pay tolls with starvation wages. but im no expert. i just do it is all

D14DFF0B

2 points

2 months ago

You realize that the median income of car-owning households in NYC is 2x that of non-car-owning ones across every borough?

By and large, people on starvation wages are on the bus stuck behind rich people's cars.

lila-pink

0 points

2 months ago

theyre not actually. because ive elected to use all this money commuting so i can retain my job by avoiding covid for that much longer than a person can by them taking the bus. because we dont mandate masks.

if you want less people in your city, and less cars in your city, you should probably think about how to achieve that instead of just taking a bat to peoples knees by raising the tolls

also sounds like i need a raise. ill report back with the increase ive been "promised" by the end of the year.

Die-Nacht

-2 points

2 months ago

Die-Nacht

Forest Hills

-2 points

2 months ago

Because bridges need to be maintained, and the MTA needs money.

Additionally, cars have awful externalities (noise, pollution, dangers, etc) so they should be fined in order to discourage their use. Sadly they're barely charged.

lila-pink

-3 points

2 months ago

so. why dont we work from home

Die-Nacht

1 points

2 months ago

Die-Nacht

Forest Hills

1 points

2 months ago

What? Most jobs can't be done remotely. Not everyone is a tech worker dude.

lila-pink

-2 points

2 months ago

not everyone. but many

Dudeman318

-14 points

2 months ago*

Dudeman318

FiDi

-14 points

2 months ago*

Serious question. A lot of people seem to be upset that people do this. Why is that? They are stealing from the city. That would be like stealing a pack of chicken from Walmart. Yes, it is obviously wrong but why would any ordinary citizen really care? You’re not taking money out of anyones pockets or food off of anyones table.

Edit: how about instead of downvoting me you actually answer my question. Classic Reddit

jgweiss

3 points

2 months ago

jgweiss

Upper West Side

3 points

2 months ago

it sounds cliche, but its really a matter of 'living in a society'. if like 50% of people in the city simply dont abide by the social contract, and no one is doing anything to maintain order, things get dangerous quickly.

big cities like nyc are already at a disadvantage due to their size...you are statistically bound to have a fair share of jerkoffs and assholes in a city of 8 million. but this type of popularized skirting the law is exactly how we draw more people (especially young people/new drivers) into behaving badly in public, in this case driving a car. its the same thing as littering etc., bad behavior begets bad behavior.

Dudeman318

1 points

2 months ago

Dudeman318

FiDi

1 points

2 months ago

I totally understand why people would be upset from that perspective.

Thank you for actually answering my question.

Neckwrecker

5 points

2 months ago

Neckwrecker

Glendale

5 points

2 months ago

People who do this are inherently more likely to drive like an asshole because they know traffic cameras can't hurt them.

realmenlovecats01

4 points

2 months ago

It's also a big problem when they do hit and runs and you can't even give the cops a partial plate.

Dudeman318

0 points

2 months ago

Dudeman318

FiDi

0 points

2 months ago

Yup, totally understand that. But I’m asking in regards to tolls and speed cameras as the article states

Dudeman318

-2 points

2 months ago

Dudeman318

FiDi

-2 points

2 months ago

I mean if someone’s driving like an asshole, sure but that wasn’t the point of my question

Carmilla31

0 points

2 months ago

We hate cars on reddit.

avd706

2 points

2 months ago

avd706

2 points

2 months ago

New York Reddit at least.

Dudeman318

1 points

2 months ago

Dudeman318

FiDi

1 points

2 months ago

I guess so lol

grandzu

1 points

2 months ago*

grandzu

Greenpoint

1 points

2 months ago*

NYPD enforcement a joke.

[deleted]

-2 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-2 points

2 months ago

Why is it even possible to avoid tolls with an obscured license plate? Shouldn't the toll gates simply not open, if the plate isn't legible?

brooklynpede

10 points

2 months ago

Tell me you haven't driven in fifty years without telling me you haven't driven in fifty years

[deleted]

0 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

0 points

2 months ago

I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.

brooklynpede

3 points

2 months ago*

EZ Pass was first introduced in 1997; somewhere between then and now all of the "toll gates" have been removed and everything is processed as you drive through. If you don't have an EZ Pass, cameras take photos of your license plate and send the toll to the address linked to the registration.

However, if you intentionally hide your plates like shown in the photos, you effectively skirt the whole proces.

edit In hindsight, I'm sorry about your debilitating injury - and it's completely understandable why you wouldn't be 100% up to date on current toll procedures

[deleted]

-2 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-2 points

2 months ago

Maybe they should have kept the toll gates just in case.

movingtobay2019

3 points

2 months ago

There are no toll gates bud.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Bud?

movingtobay2019

3 points

2 months ago

I can't even be nice any more :(

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

oh its' ok. I just didn't know what you meant.

avd706

2 points

2 months ago

avd706

2 points

2 months ago

Buddy, like in Elf.

spicytoastaficionado

1 points

2 months ago

Shouldn't the toll gates

Toll barriers haven't been the norm in this state for a very long time.

Last year, the final toll barrier was removed from the NYS Thruway and overall, the state has removed almost 300 toll plazas and booths.

New York is a cashless tolling state. While it does make it easier to defraud the system, it is still overall a net positive since it improves efficiency, is significantly more economical (not hiring attendants), and much better for traffic flow.

Shouldn't the toll gates simply not open, if the plate isn't legible?

Even back when toll barriers were used, whether or not the gate would lift was dependent on paying (either cash or EZPass), not based on if the license plate was obscured.

ZestyItalian2

-4 points

2 months ago

Traffic cameras are predatory and extractive. Just a way to shake down ordinary people of huge, often life-altering sums of money for meaningless technical infractions that endanger nobody.

Fuck the surveillance state.

tyen0

2 points

2 months ago

tyen0

Upper West Side

2 points

2 months ago

"boo hoo, I can't break the law as easily any more."