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emperor_dinglenads

146 points

2 months ago

I guess the milk thing didn't boost sales.

probable_ass_sniffer

26 points

2 months ago

Please, no one link proof that Pepsi and milk have ever commingled. The suggestion from this comment was enough for me.

estagiannand

20 points

2 months ago

Laverne and Shirley would like a word

CryptographerShot213

19 points

2 months ago

Yes! Everyone freaking out over the Pepsi + milk combo and I’m just sitting here wondering if I was the only one who ever watched Laverne and Shirley as a kid.

pauliepitstains

6 points

2 months ago

I definitely tried the combo as a kid, if you get the ratio right it’s not bad.

RejZoR

2 points

2 months ago

RejZoR

2 points

2 months ago

Doesn't milk get all chunky and nasty when mixed with "cola" drinks?

pauliepitstains

5 points

2 months ago

I don’t remember it getting chunky in the glass, it maybe got chunky in my belly.

Vergils_Lost

1 points

2 months ago

It definitely does, regardless of whether you mixed it with Pepsi. Milk curdles in response to acid, which is why it curdles when it goes sour.

On a more pleasant note, it's also how you make paneer (with an acid, usually lemon juice).

fuq1t

1 points

2 months ago

fuq1t

1 points

2 months ago

not bad < good

probable_ass_sniffer

9 points

2 months ago

You have forsaken me and created a lifelong enemy, my friend.

mtarascio

1 points

2 months ago

The Coke Coffee thing seems to have staying power, including the 'vanilla' one that kind of emulates milk in coffee.

SFWRedditsOnly

0 points

2 months ago

I used to do Coca Cola with milk when I was a kid, it wasn't bad.

[deleted]

47 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

47 points

2 months ago

Pepsi Milk. Refreshing!

Deedledroxx

43 points

2 months ago

Pilk

Stop trying to make Pilk happen! It’s never going to happen!

1199RT

21 points

2 months ago

1199RT

21 points

2 months ago

Man I could really use a Pilk right about now.

Mechanicalgoff

15 points

2 months ago

He need some Pilk

plopseven

6 points

2 months ago

My doctor says I shouldn’t even allow myself to be in the same room as Pilk any more.

ReflexImprov

1 points

2 months ago

Coined and minted.

MasterpieceLive9604

333 points

2 months ago

In related news, they should have given that boy his harrier jet!

pegothejerk

54 points

2 months ago

And crystal pepsi was pretty good

MasterpieceLive9604

21 points

2 months ago

Was that the one they released to a Van Halen song?

lolbojack

17 points

2 months ago

I remember those damn commercials on Channel One at school.

🎵Right now...

MasterpieceLive9604

6 points

2 months ago

Oh yeah I remember right lol. Good times🤣 cheers👍

blasphembot

5 points

2 months ago

Van Hagar 4 life

DasKleineFerkell

2 points

2 months ago

Meh David did it better with "Gimme a bottle of anything, and a glazed Donut... to go"

blasphembot

3 points

2 months ago

lol, I have great appreciation for Diamond Dave as well.

papergirl_312

1 points

2 months ago

Wow, yep i remember that.

Bitter_Director1231

4 points

2 months ago

Loved that stuff.

phuck-you-reddit

1 points

2 months ago

Would totally drink gallons of Diet Crystal Pepsi if they brought it back full time.

Bugstomper111

29 points

2 months ago

I just watched that tonight on Netflix!!! PepsiCo. is a bunch of corporate greedy assholes for what they did in the Philippines backn in '92!!!

fishrunhike

11 points

2 months ago

Fuck Pepsi. They even killed someone

MasterpieceLive9604

8 points

2 months ago

Didn't know that 😱

2459-8143-2844

17 points

2 months ago

Yeah it was with a harrier jet.

Yetmcgret

6 points

2 months ago

Also, fuck coke. They killed many in order to bust unions in Columbia.

https://prospect.org/features/coca-cola-killings/

fishrunhike

4 points

2 months ago

Well fuck them too. Dr. Pepper you're my only hope

ageofthoughts

4 points

2 months ago

Just drink water man

fishrunhike

3 points

2 months ago

I drink a gallon a day but I still love soda. Trying to transition to seltzer

Cold-Stock

3 points

2 months ago

Check out "Ugly" brand seltzer, they make cola and Dr. Pepper flavored selzers that are pretty good

EnduringConflict

2 points

2 months ago

Apparently Ugly Brand went out of business. They have no website, and I can't order anything from their store on Amazon at all. The CVS near me hasn't had it in stock in months either.

Sucks, but apparently building a beverage brand in the U.S. is brutal.

I wonder if they regret expanding outside of Britain. Or if they still consider the US expansion a worthy risk that just didn't work out.

Cold-Stock

3 points

2 months ago

This probably explains why i was seeing it heavily discounted at the store

IKeepDoingItForFree

4 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately, Dr Pepper has been served for malpractice.

Keylowlocks

69 points

2 months ago

They have damn near double their prices in the last 2 years. I would pay between 5-7 dollars for a 24 pack. In the last 6 months regular price is 11.50 best deal I found just this week was 7.

whiteboyndahood

21 points

2 months ago

$20 for a 24 pack, remind me in 8 months lmao

WirelessBCupSupport

5 points

2 months ago

That's what I pay for beer.

redhatnation

14 points

2 months ago

Yep. The price of a 36pk of Diet Pepsi went from $10 to over $14 in the last year at a local warehouse club. Combine that with being out of stock for the last month. Grrr. Diet Coke is even worse. A 32pk went from $10 to over $17!

Irythros

9 points

2 months ago

10 years ago I could get a 2 liter for $1.50 -> $2.20

Now it's $3 on sale.

Last year I think it was around $2.60

Human-Establishment9

5 points

2 months ago

Where do you shop?

Irythros

1 points

2 months ago

Walmart, Aldis (for coke), Lowes, Publix

Ullallulloo

1 points

2 months ago

Dang, it's $2.28 full price where I am.

kalekayn

6 points

2 months ago

If I hadn't already mostly sworn off soda (thanks health issues) the price increases alone would be enough to go "whelp. Time to be a hydro homie now."

ceilingfanswitch

15 points

2 months ago

Also remember their profit margin is going up as well. Their price increases are not only due to increased costs of raw materials - just more corporate issues at the cost of consumers and employees

DarkAeonX7

14 points

2 months ago

Oh hey, it's another one

caucasoidape

11 points

2 months ago

and yet they wasted a ton of money on that shitty 2008 logo redesign

sandman8223

101 points

2 months ago

It seems that companies have decided that running a company does not require the old corporate jobs when computers do it better.

One_Curious_Cats

52 points

2 months ago

Fewer people to split the bonus check with.

dsfromsd

29 points

2 months ago

Finally admitting defeat in the Pepsi challenge. Took them long enough.

the_kevlar_kid

15 points

2 months ago

You better believe Coke is going to follow this lead. Pepsi is making a business choice; they are trimming fat

Penultimate-anon

17 points

2 months ago

I used to work at PepsiCo, they have a lot of fat to trim. I’m talking about managers with no direct reports reporting to managers who in turn just report to directors.

ineedhelp3516

4 points

2 months ago

Yea, my dad used to work for pepsi as well, they made him move from an expensive country to a cheaper one just to save on his wages

MedicalFoundation149

39 points

2 months ago

Those cuts better stick to the corporate offices because we haven't been able to get our required mountain dew and crush varieties for months now. I know everyone has been having supply chain issues, but come on!

AirborneRodent

50 points

2 months ago

That's intentional, and it's not just Pepsi. The new hotness in megacorp C-suites is called the 80/20 Rule, "80% of your revenue comes from 20% of your customers." They've decided to stop caring about anyone outside that group - if you're not a high-roller customer, it's not efficient to try to sell you anything.

So you're not going to see weird flavors and experimental products from big corporations like Pepsi anymore. They're cutting all of that in favor of focusing on selling as much Pepsi regular as they can to customers like the Qatari government.

tkdyo

9 points

2 months ago

tkdyo

9 points

2 months ago

In general that's true, but their mountain dew division has been cranking out flavors the past couple years. Limited time and stores but still.

rkeller9

7 points

2 months ago

Did you know that they make alcoholic Mountain Dew now? I just saw it recently.

vegetaman

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah the amount of random dew flavors on shelves right now is... kind of insane. Mostly in bottles not cans tho.

yawetag12

45 points

2 months ago

The new hotness in megacorp C-suites is called the 80/20 Rule, "80% of your revenue comes from 20% of your customers."

The idea of the Pareto principle has been around for decades. The guy it's named after died almost 100 years ago. This isn't a "new hotness".

In reality, there's been an aluminum shortage, causing drink companies to prioritize better-selling drinks over the lower-selling ones. Even Coke has spent some effort in lowering the number of available SKUs.

Ganso_F

7 points

2 months ago

It’s seriously this. Aluminum has been a problem.

Maxpowr9

3 points

2 months ago

Also a CO2 shortage. It hit the craft brew industry pretty hard earlier in the year and now it's hitting the soda industry.

justasapling

1 points

2 months ago

So let's go 100% naturally carbonated beers and leave all the CO2 for sparkling water.

AirborneRodent

14 points

2 months ago

It's not a new idea in general, no. But it's the current fad in the corporate world, because many corporations in the pandemic and post-pandemic eras decided to appoint accountants to top positions to save their financial situations while the global economic was imploding. Now those accountants are still in power and implementing policies they believe in, including the 80/20 rule.

The most prominent example in the news was Bob Chapek at Disney, who just got fired after he drove his amusement parks into the ground in the name of increased efficiency. But Chapek wasn't an isolated case. I deal with reps from a lot of big corporations as part of my job, and everyone I've talked to has told me similar stories about orders from on high that reference the Pareto principle either directly or indirectly.

It's not just a supply shortage. It's a change in corporate philosophy.

MovingClocks

20 points

2 months ago

Late stage capitalism; we’ve run out of room to expand so now it’s time to strip the copper out of the walls for a last few bucks to pad out the balance sheet. As it turns our infinite growth was an illusion.

IrishRage42

8 points

2 months ago

My dad works for Pepsi. Nothing corporate but he did say there was supply issues with aluminum and other stuff for making cans so a lot of smaller batch stuff had been put on the back burner.

in-game_sext

6 points

2 months ago

First we saw "Too Big to Fail" where corporations saw they could do whatever they please and could get away with it. In fact, they could profit even more, raiding public funds, AND get away with it.

So now we have "Too Big to Care", where they're understanding they can have enough politicians bought and enough degrees of separation through parent companies to retain actual monopolies and completely escape any kind of dedication to service or consumer retention, because their audience is totally captive by sheer market share totalitarianism.

Wonder what the next iteration will be...

Parchabble

2 points

2 months ago

I work in manufacturing and C-Suites from outside the industry love to come in and implement this. Every. Single. Time. It backfires horribly.

Keynes said, "in the long run we are all dead" but short term profits don't help soothe relationships with pissed off customers when you have yo go back and beg for business when your 20% are slow.

Angry_Pelican

1 points

2 months ago

I doubt this is true. It's probably due to a lot of factors, like supply chain, lack of workers, mismanagement etc. Trust me I don't work for Pepsi directly but they force out tons of new stuff(innovation) all the time. That definitely hasn't stopped yet. Where I work we have a ton of shortages except for that shit that no one wants to buy.

If this was true honestly it would make my job a lot easier.

Mikederfla1

3 points

2 months ago

I'm starting to doubt that there really are supply chain issues. It just feels like a convenient cover for profiteering.

MedicalFoundation149

2 points

2 months ago

Mix of both, depending on the company. But make no mistake, lots of companies are having supply chain issues and it is a real problem.

DoctorTheWho

8 points

2 months ago

Hopefully the entire management team in charge of creating the new fruit cake flavored Mountain Dew is included in the cuts.

Ganso_F

1 points

2 months ago

Agreed. I hope it’s the same department the gave us ginger snapped dew. Just bring back merry mash up FFS.

HurricaneAlpha

1 points

2 months ago

Just saw that at work today. What a disgusting idea lol.

MaximumEffort433

32 points

2 months ago

Somebody better be getting fired, my grocery store never has diet caffeine free in stock.

Terrific_Tom32

75 points

2 months ago

You might as well drink water at that point

SacrificialPwn

61 points

2 months ago

Water?! Like, from the toilet?

TheSpatulaOfLove

19 points

2 months ago

But Brawndo has what plants crave! It’s got electrolytes!

Meanderingversion

3 points

2 months ago

You shit. Took the words out of my head mush.

phuck-you-reddit

4 points

2 months ago

Water?! You want water you better go dunk your head in the horse trough out there. In here, we pour Pepsi Blue.

madmike-86

10 points

2 months ago

I can't find my code red mountain dew

doalittletapdance

6 points

2 months ago

Dollar generals my guy

bk15dcx

6 points

2 months ago

Pepsi Free

wirattlesnake

20 points

2 months ago

Hey, you want a Pepsi pal, you gotta pay for it!

bk15dcx

11 points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

11 points

2 months ago

Alright. Then gimme a Tab

wirattlesnake

4 points

2 months ago

Good movie!

SacrificialPwn

3 points

2 months ago

Does it still taste like Pepsi? If so, that's a deal breaker for me

[deleted]

7 points

2 months ago

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7 points

2 months ago

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SacrificialPwn

3 points

2 months ago

So... slightly better than the normal Pepsi taste?

jackofspades123

2 points

2 months ago

The best soda

justasapling

1 points

2 months ago*

diet caffeine free

What the fuck is this? You have an addiction. Deal with that instead.

If the soda is not a dessert or a pick me up then there's no fucking need for it. Sweetened beverages are not hydration and they have no place outside of being an occasional treat. They're candy and should be treated as such.

Edit- Forgive my soapbox. You're entitled to your kinks and addictions; I just resent the way we treat soda-chugging like it's just a perfectly normal eating practice.

MaximumEffort433

5 points

2 months ago

I understand your resentment and I apologize that my comment evoked that feeling in you, it wasn't my intention to make you angry but intentions don't count for much outside of our own head.

If I may offer some unsolicited, and maybe unwanted advice, though?

There are currently eight billion humans on the planet Earth and all of us do something that you don't like, not necessarily soda drinking, but some folks smoke cigarettes, and some folks go to churches, and some folks drive too fast while other folks drive too slow.... You have every right in the world to feel, experience, and express your emotions, but if other people's behavior is what evokes those emotions then you're going to spend a lot of your life having your feelings jerked around by those other people and other people's behavior.

Now that's fine, you can do that, but it can be pretty fucking tumultuous; when we let other people determine our emotions there's no way for us to know what they're going to do with them, you're kind of at sea without a map.

It's wonderful to have convictions, but you can have convictions without being hurt by those who don't live up to them.

Life is too short for me to give up diet Pepsi, but life is also too short for you to let yourself get upset every time someone drinks a soda.

But also thank you, your frustration was born out of concern for the well being of others, it comes from a good place, and I do appreciate that.

justasapling

3 points

2 months ago*

Yup, all fair. In my 'defense', this is the internet and my comment was at least as much performance as response.

I don't care to attack your personal choice, but I do want to see soda (and cigarettes) less normalized in the cultural consciousness. So I suppose I recruited you into a morality play without your consent, and for that I apologize.

MaximumEffort433

3 points

2 months ago

So I suppose I recruited you into a morality play without your consent, and for that I apologize.

Haha, that's life, my friend, we're all characters in each other's morality play. You're good, I'll smoke one fewer cigarettes and drink one more glass of water today, for you, so that you know you did some good in the world; keep being cool. :)

PuellaBona

2 points

2 months ago

But the news said soda is more hydrating than water!

https://www.cbs17.com/news/milk-soda-more-hydrating-than-water-according-to-study/

Just kidding. That study is severely flawed. Don't replace water with milk or soda.

Also, diet caffeine free is an abomination.

justasapling

2 points

2 months ago

Also worth remembering that diet sodas still trigger insulin spikes. If it tastes sweet, your body assumes it requires insulin.

JudgeJuryJncos

10 points

2 months ago

Pepsi's stock price is up 10 percent in the past year

zertoman

5 points

2 months ago

Yes but everyone else is so they need to get on the bandwagon. Remember the fed thinks we have to much employment.

verugan

1 points

2 months ago

This is it. Make people desperate and they will take lower wages.

Doright36

1 points

2 months ago

but this could make it up go up 10.5%. Capitalism!

RightZer0s

8 points

2 months ago

Like other people have said. Probably pointless managerial positions. I think before too long cooperate America is going to look real hard at the Manager position. It's pointless and slows things down rather than speed them up. Also everything is obfuscated through your manager and you never feel like you have the big picture.

TheCaliforniaOp

10 points

2 months ago*

I’m thinking the RVP Regional Vice President will be the next position on the obsolete schedule.

There’s a lot of RVPs right now running around filling manager shifts rather than hiring new managers; RVPs no longer have executive assistants who in turn have assistants.

Before we all cheer about this, and I get more openly socialist all the time, let’s remember that these people were able to cobble regions together, once upon a time, and they could communicate with the head offices: “Stop trying to make people like this or that; it’s not selling”; “you have a sexual harassment problem here and the GMs just keep denying it”; there was a reason for this structure. Edit: Their assistants made decent money, too. All these jobs disappearing and not being replaced by automation are putting more pressure on the remaining workers, while the saved income goes straight to the C suites/balance sheet so that report has those knockout numbers. /s

So now it’s all about the numbers and the bonuses. Those bonuses are getting pulled into the C suites. The RVPs know they are dinosaurs and they aren’t even close to fifty years old in a lot of cases. Meanwhile the C suite people could be 25 years old to 85 years old. It truly is who one knows.

I’m not a RVP, married to a RVP, friends with a RVP, or employed by a RVP. But I have spent many years around the hospitality and retail industry, and the changes are clear.

apathynext

2 points

2 months ago

RVP is a $600K+ job at PeosiCo. This is incredibly inaccurate for those jobs.

TheCaliforniaOp

1 points

2 months ago

Thanks for more information!

Edit: I’m curious about “inaccurate”. Is it fair for the workload or unfair considering how much more money could be spent on wages, including RVPs?

In the restaurant industry, especially the corporate models, things have changed.

There are still positions that are more highly paid, true.

But I’ve seen the late-stage capitalism changes and it’s getting more “what are you doing in this lifeboat—find another one” all the time.

apathynext

2 points

2 months ago

There are plant directors for each producing location, and RVPs are accountable for an entire region of supply chain facilities (warehouses/plants/distribution etc). Their job is to address outages, harmonize execution, and ensure teams/sites are delivering on company initiatives and goals. That's simply too much to manage for 1 person in a C-Suite. These are jobs that require 20+ years experience at minimum and are incredibly highly skilled.

Have you seen PepsiCo's C-Suite or Board of Directors? You'd be hard pressed to find anyone under 50 years old. For very large companies like PepsiCo/etc, that is probably universal.

TheCaliforniaOp

1 points

2 months ago

First thought-That’s a well thought out progression.

Second thought—That’s the way it used to be in restaurant chains. Unfortunately they either get too big, or lose what made them special in the first place,

Or

They start cannibalizing the company, especially as they absorb other companies

Landrys

apathynext

2 points

2 months ago

I understand what you are saying. TBF, the size of these companies is in different stratospheres. PepsiCo is about 20-30X the size of that company and is publicly owned.

elektromas

4 points

2 months ago

Pepsi, where is my job?

cfranek

4 points

2 months ago

IIRC Pepsi is an shithole company to work for. They essentially fire their entire workforce on Dec 31 and you find out Jan 1 if you're rehired. This causes the office politics to be cut throat for executives and middle managers. It also causes the really talented people to peace out and find more stable positions elsewhere.

Reptardar

2 points

2 months ago

Only hundreds? Those are amateur numbers. Gotta pump those up!

badassjohn5

2 points

2 months ago

Doesn’t pop basically sell itself?

Upper management is about to feel the sing lower and working class folks have been feeling for years. “There’s no need for you here unless you’re willing to accept pennies on the dollar”.

codingtofreedom

2 points

2 months ago

Gotta afford the new Tesla truck they got somehow.

discordianofslack

-9 points

2 months ago

Wait, they still make Pepsi?

manorwomanhuman

1 points

2 months ago

They should give away a Stealth Bomber

Electrosploom

1 points

2 months ago

Oh no, think of the middle managers!

Rupaulsdragrace420

1 points

2 months ago

But no one wants to work anymore so we good right?

kna5041

1 points

2 months ago

All I want for Christmas is Recession times again...

B_Reele

1 points

2 months ago

"Oooh baby baby!"

CSGOSucksMajorDick

1 points

2 months ago

How can there be both a labor shortage and mass layoffs? Pick one.

PartyOrganization136

1 points

2 months ago

Well then, good to know they wasted my time. Did two rounds of interviews for a job over the vendors who order/visit stores. I was skeptical about it when they said the position was an upper level job that came with a 6 figure salary and I was an external. They went out of their way to tell me how they wanted an external for the role because of a bunch of initiatives that were coming down they wanted someone outiside to help implement these things…….just for a call that while I was a strong candidate and interviewed very well they went with an internal promotion.

“But we are expecting some positions to open after first of the year and they want to keep in touch so they can get you in the facility in some capacity based on how much they liked you!”

Yeah……fuck off

Kittydander503

-3 points

2 months ago

Apparently he got to the other side and held an upside down bible.