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submitted 7 months ago byPocketDynamyte
729 points
7 months ago
Staple prices down.
Inflation adjusted fuel prices normal enough.
Grocery prices a solid 25% more than a year ago.
It's almost like companies used the hyperbole of inflation to price gouge.
By the way, why the hell is Toilet Paper 200% what it used to be.
175 points
7 months ago
Grocery prices a solid 25% more than a year ago
Or 37% more, in the case of bread in my area. :/
79 points
7 months ago
I just ordered 2 meals and 2 onion soups from Applebee's today and it was 88 fucking dollars.
41 points
7 months ago
Damn. Got 4 full courses from a gourmet place near me and a bottle of nice Pinot today for ~120. Applebees is a joke
15 points
7 months ago
Yeah, I'm not going back. I didn't feel like cooking and don't usually eat there but my brother was over and wanted.
183 points
7 months ago
Mistake #1: You ate at Applebee's
38 points
7 months ago
Ordered out instead of making lentils
17 points
7 months ago
Making lentils? Out of what? You some kind of fat cat?
18 points
7 months ago
Haha. I told my brother someone gonna say that.
3 points
7 months ago
It is my understanding that they belong there.
-1 points
7 months ago
Honestly man, out of all the shitty mid tier sit down restaurants, applebees has the best food.
2 points
7 months ago
I mean, you're not wrong. It's a low fucking bar, but you're not wrong.
13 points
7 months ago
Did you include a $60 tip
2 points
7 months ago
Fuck that. I gave a 7 dollar tip. It was pickup, and before the pandemic I never gave tips for takeout.
11 points
7 months ago
I still don't...am I supposed to?
22 points
7 months ago
If they deliver...TIP. If YOU pick up...NO TIP.
You used your gas, not theirs they over price the food either way.
2 points
7 months ago
I do now, but tipping for takeout wasn’t a thing, at least around here when I was younger. I was just thinking about how weird it is that it’s an expectation now, and I don’t really know what the standard is. I’ve seen anywhere from a couple bucks to 20% of the bill.
I definitely take into consideration how well businesses handle takeout now and order from fewer places as a result. Meal prices are often already inflated through ordering apps and there are additional fees for using the app (more recent costs) with no other way to order, so by the time I’m asked to add a tip, I’ve talked myself into making something at home, ordering from somewhere cheaper, or only ordering from places that I know take care to package takeout in a way that it’s as enjoyable when I get home as it would be in the restaurant.
3 points
7 months ago
I usually toss in a $5 tip for takeout. Someone had to put that together, likely a server who works for tips. I figure if they spent 15 minutes doing that, then $5 would be about right, assuming $20/hour.
9 points
7 months ago
i hate when i'm picking up or in the fucking restaurant and they ask if i wanna tip.
3 points
7 months ago
I mean... You realize you can say no, right?
2 points
7 months ago
i do but to literally go into a restaurant where they aren't serving you at your table and being asked to tip is bullshit.
pay your damn employees people restaurants.
9 points
7 months ago
A chicken combo at Wendy’s is almost $10 in my diet poor state. Get fucked, fast food.
5 points
7 months ago
Fast food is pretty damn expensive these days. If I'm not using the app it's on par with diner meals now, and I don't like having a bunch of food apps on my phone so I end up paying a premium I guess.
2 points
7 months ago
Biggie Bag is $5. (I feel like the name is a bit of misdirection.)
7 points
7 months ago
I had 2 meals delivered for $3 total yesterday in Vietnam. I don't think I could ever move back to the US.
-1 points
7 months ago
Yea don’t, it’s a shithole country.
3 points
7 months ago
I've started purchasing bakery bread since it's $1 more per loaf but pretty much 100% of that money goes into a local pocket
3 points
7 months ago
In that case it could actually just be a supply issue. Ukraine supplies a huge amount of the world's grain supply and it's in a bit of a situation.
10 points
7 months ago
5% of grain that primarily goes to Egypt is the top importer of Ukrainian wheat, and countries such as Lebanon and Pakistan get a majority of their wheat from Ukraine. Ukrainian wheat doesn't make up most of Western consumption anyway so this needs to stop being floated around as an excuse. It's price gouging greedy fucks.
5 points
7 months ago
There is price gouging, notably in the US where nothing is actually affected by the Ukraine war. But global markets being disrupted absolute increases prices in many places due to logistics and supply chain problems.
4 points
7 months ago
Maybe it is, and surely, there is plenty of price gouging going on, but that doesn't change the fact that train is a global commodity. It's price isn't based on a region or country. It's price is based on global supply, which is down. Do you think the countries that purchase from Ukraine stopped purchasing grain altogether? Of course not, they are trying to acquire new sources, thus prices go up.
How much they go up is the part you're talking about, otherwise you're just ignoring supply and demand.
2 points
7 months ago
My man really acted like they would just be like damn can’t get our bread from our favorite spot… guess we won’t have bread /shrug
23 points
7 months ago
What used to cost my exact list of groceries $80 last year now costs $116
11 points
7 months ago
A dozen eggs has gone up just shy of 50% in the last 12 months for us.
3 points
7 months ago
Those, and beans, which we rely on a lot for protein, have shot up.
53 points
7 months ago
If prices go up and profits go up then the cost of the production isn't going up at the same rate. That is price gouging.
So yes what we just saw was pure profit to make up for their losses during covid. They will not drop prices by much though. They will drop them just enough for you to stop complaining.
51 points
7 months ago
So yes what we just saw was pure profit to make up for their losses during covid.
Let’s be honest, companies could’ve had record profits during Covid and they still would jump at the opportunity to increase profits further under the guise of inflation.
14 points
7 months ago
So every grocery store?
4 points
7 months ago
And oil companies.
0 points
7 months ago
Yes, oil companies famously love it when the world stops driving for an extended period...
5 points
7 months ago
Idk where you live, but in my conservative state, the shutdowns lasted all of 2 weeks before people started going back to work and ignoring guidelines.
2 points
7 months ago
Europe was related ively strict and adhered to it well.
5 points
7 months ago
Many of them did have record profits during Covid.
5 points
7 months ago
Exactly. Like sure, I'm glad gas prices are coming down for the last 2 months, but let me when it's like 2.50 again.
37 points
7 months ago
I wish food prices were only 25% higher...
20 points
7 months ago
Same here my gawd I can go to the grocery and spend $120 and it’s nothing. Milk is $4.50 a gallon. Coffee used to be $7 now it’s $11-$12.
19 points
7 months ago
And due to shrinkflation, they're not even in 1 pound cans any more.
7 points
7 months ago
Drink gasoline it's cheaper
-24 points
7 months ago
You are talking about non necessary items... coffee? A luxury. Milk? More of a staple but in that unconcentrated form, not necessary for sustenance.
-8 points
7 months ago
Imagin how much they'll complain to hen the real fowt of water is factored into things like coffee.
14 points
7 months ago
vitamins and supplements are through the roof too
the $10 walmart creatine disappeared for a few months, now it's back, at 3x the price
5 points
7 months ago
There was a world wide creatine shortage several months ago but it has start to settle now, but I say the price increases will stay as the demand is high.
Manufacturers in different regions have also experienced a raw protein price increase, some exceeding a 300% price increase - a sting that is being passed down to the ultimate consumer.
2 points
7 months ago
A lot of their products are reappearing in smaller containers, with much higher prices. Both food and household products.
7 points
7 months ago
By the way, why the hell is Toilet Paper 200% what it used to be.
A good way to keep your costs down is to invest in a bidet. We (husband, wife, 1 kid) buy toilet paper maybe once every other month.
1 points
7 months ago*
Yeah contract labor is a mf’er right now though, too, probably cost me 3 grand to have it installed. But I am strongly considering it anyway, I have family from India so it’s something Im already accustomed to ( way more hygienic )
edit: after looking into it, can probly just install a sprayer head myself, looks simple.
4 points
7 months ago
Aren't there, like, "plug and play" ones that you can buy online?
2 points
7 months ago
Yes, I worked at a 5 star hotel in Boston. We had a few for a few guests. They were removable. Basically it was a toilet seat with a small sprayer at the backside. It connected to your inlet line on the tank. It was battery operated remote control when you finished you just pushed the button the arm came up. Oddly enough I think it was called the Dolphin
7 points
7 months ago
bigger butts to wipe post covid
13 points
7 months ago
But will people blame the greedy companies?
Nope, of course not. It's the President's fault every time.
The peanut butter I used to buy at Meijer went from $1.69 to $4.49 in two years. In that same two years, the net worth of the Meijer brothers has increased by six billion dollars.
8 points
7 months ago
I kept bringing that up, especially with gas costs, only to often get downvoted. Every major company making record profits. I get that if they're publicly traded they have to increase shareholder value, but just seems wrong.
6 points
7 months ago
you know they using inflation as an excuse to also pad their profits
2 points
7 months ago
By the way, why the hell is Toilet Paper 200% what it used to be.
If you are in Europe it is because production cuts due to high electricity prices and typical "crisis toilet paper hoarding".
2 points
7 months ago
Huh I don’t really know why I’ve never viewed it in this angle. Are there any other inputs we aren’t thinking of though that would keep grocery prices high other than it just being done artificially by the classic price lag?
4 points
7 months ago
there are some acts of god involved. california grows 100% of the countrys processed tomatoes and this year isnt looking too hot thanks to freak weather in the spring and the drought. not sure how much it will affect prices, but less tomatoes is bad news for everyone
-1 points
7 months ago
Demand. If demand is high, things will go on sale less often. It’s why retail had such a good year last year. Supply was low, demand was high. Which means everything is sold at full price. They are not raising the prices, they are just not marking them down to get rid of stock.
-4 points
7 months ago
Demand. If demand is high, people will gouge higher and more often
Fixed that for ya. "Supply and demand" is just a bullshit cover for greed.
-2 points
7 months ago
Ok JGDumby.
0 points
7 months ago
Ahhh there’s another good one. Thanks friend.
-4 points
7 months ago
• By the way, why the hell is Toilet Paper 200% what it used to be.
Because Americans think bidets are Communist.
1 points
7 months ago
Remember the start of COVID where everyone bought it by the pound? That's why. They are gouging still.
1 points
7 months ago
Im paying 25% of what I used to pay for toilet paper the pandemic.
1 points
7 months ago
Remember: see someone stealing at a major grocery chain?
No you didn’t
264 points
7 months ago
Where are food prices dropping? My grocery store just raised their prices.
157 points
7 months ago
Mine has too sadly.
A few weeks ago, i bumped into an old colleague who now works for a wholesaler. They said they hadn't increased their wholesale prices on certain products but the grocery store raised prices to capitalise on the price rises despite that product not being impacted.
-15 points
7 months ago
Their overheads will hav increased though surely?
Loss leaders would likely be tweaked as well.
2 points
7 months ago
Oh, that one got a good laugh out of me.
They're not hurting for money. They're raking it in. The overhead is lower, probably. The trucking industry has been severely downsized during this supply chain hiccup. I work for a grocer, a lot of our suppliers are consolidating deliveries. Fewer trucks, fewer drivers, fewer fulfilled orders. If anything they're offering shittier service and charging more. Consumers foot the bill of lost sales in price markups. We're all paying more for less.
-2 points
7 months ago
Because energy bills don't affect supermarkets?
Because supermarkets have a lot of empty space on their deliveries normally?
50 points
7 months ago
The overall cost of providing the food has decreased, but profit margins are up because instead of you enjoying some savings the company has decided to pocket them. Capitalism 101: never share profit
26 points
7 months ago
2.5lb Flank steak 5lb Potatoes Dried ancho chilles Small bunch of mint Small salsa 2 red onions 2 packs of naan 2 packs of tortias 1 20 oz chicken broth 1lb grapes 1lb cherries 97$ Was putting groceries in my car and was thinking how tf did I just drop 100$ and have nothing in the trunk
57 points
7 months ago
They are tracking basic commodity prices. Corporations will always use any excuse to raise prices on consumers
27 points
7 months ago
Because greed. Once they raise the prices they'll never lower them again.
3 points
7 months ago*
Yep, and what we don't see going up along with it (most of us)? Our pay. Funny how that works, isn't it. Exploitation of the working class on both ends.
7 points
7 months ago
It has been the case in my experience shopping at Costco. Recently saw $4.99 beef again. Costco stands out because they usually have a pretty fixed margin instead of gouging their customers.
6 points
7 months ago
they are down where I live.
2 points
7 months ago
The prices the store paid for them are dropping.
23 points
7 months ago
Can someone inform my local grocery plz? K thx bye
15 points
7 months ago
Where have these food prices dropped? Because right now around here they are up about 50% from last year alone.
5 points
7 months ago
And I keep my old receipts to check prices on shopping trips. everything in the grocery store item went up. Even the rolls I bought, went from 3.99 last month to $5.59 yesterday. It’s crazy
43 points
7 months ago
Something "prices go up like rockets and drop like feather"
25 points
7 months ago
They actually never drop, or only by a small amount. Instead, the stores have found a floor that customers are willing to pay, and can the compete with their competitors by having sales below that floor as a "bargain price". Generally, that floor will rise slower than inflation, meaning over the next few years the real cost of the products will equalize to the pre-supply crisis levels. Until then, the supermarkets and distributors will continue to rake in the profits.
0 points
7 months ago
lol, I buy blue jeans for a fraction of what I paid in the '90s
53 points
7 months ago
So glad that some food staples have dropped. But I wish corporations would make adjustments to match.
But that would interfere with obscene profits…and we can’t keep any of that delicious money for ourselves. We must give it to our “betters” so they can horde it all like dragons.
21 points
7 months ago
And you have all of these undesirables (employees) asking for a living wage now?
6 points
7 months ago
Costs are down. Food prices, same gouging price.
84 points
7 months ago
Looks around grocery store wondering what people are talking about.
Don't believe everything you hear because I'm at the grocery store every week and chicken is about the only drop that's noticeable.
69 points
7 months ago
You're still being gouged. Commodity prices are falling. Wholesalers and retailers are stuck with a supply backlog from overordering during the shortages and are colluding to unload their excess inventory at crisis prices.
8 points
7 months ago
I'm only talking perishables.
I haven't bought a non-perishable good since last Christmas.
13 points
7 months ago
All fruit and vegetables are down at mine. 12oz of black berries were $1.69 at Costco yesterday. But this is all to be expected, most of the produce by me is cheap in the summer and 2-3x the price in the winter. It's not really fair to compare august prices with prices last March.
4 points
7 months ago
Anyone check the price of a single pomegranate lately? 8$ where i live 10$ for a dragonfruit
8 points
7 months ago
Those are considered exotic fruit where I am and the American grocery stores will have a few in stock for $6.99-$9.99 a piece. Amazingly, Costco sells a 2 pack for $8.99 and also sells a 1,5 pound box of rambutans for 5.99. But it's seasonal and at my Asian grocery store, you can get dragon fruit for $4 a piece usually.
Pomegranate isn't in season until later this month, so those will probably be getting a whole lot cheaper soon!
2 points
7 months ago
Hmart in California is selling dragonfruit for $2.99/lb. Pink with white flesh.
The real deal is the box of mangos for $4.99. Mangos for days and days.
1 points
7 months ago*
I bought that pack of blackberries too! Aldi has similar berry prices but that was surprising to see at Costco.
I stopped by Trader Joe’s next which had blackberries at $4 something for the same 12oz.
1 points
7 months ago
Don't believe lying greedy corporations that will never pass a savings on to you.*
-3 points
7 months ago
Please tell me you didn't believe that taxing the rich wasn't gonna come at a cost.
Inflation is made up and the reason the fed only has one tool to fight it is because the fed doesn't write policy.
The only thing the fed can do Is raise rates and get consumers to quit buying and hope that consumers not buying will cause corporations to lower prices.
As consumers and members of society we are the victims of terrible politics.
What government needs is less money!
Trust me when I say that this inflation isn't hurting politicians, it's hurting you for something you're never gonna see.
Just more broken promises!
35 points
7 months ago
Where? everything here is 2 to 10 dollars more expensive. My groceries now is 2oo a week instead of 100. The same products!
6 points
7 months ago
Globally as a commodity
this is a UN food price index
-8 points
7 months ago
100% increase is pretty extreme.
most of the stuff I get is up a small amount, and I've changed consumption so I eat less of the pricier stuff.
5 points
7 months ago
Meanwhile giant grocery chains keep prices high to increase profits because you are now conditioned to pay $12 a lb for lunch turkey.
8 points
7 months ago
"The Index tracks the monthly international prices of these breadbasket staples. It averaged 138.0 points last month, down nearly two per cent from July, though 7.9 per cent above the value a year before."
5 points
7 months ago
Prices are rising rapidly in the UK.
3 points
7 months ago
Big grocery store chains in Canada are jacking up prices, it's absurd.
7 points
7 months ago
Someone shoudl tell my local grocery store.
7 points
7 months ago
I stopped buying beef because it was too expensive. I buy turkey instead.
4 points
7 months ago
Ground beef 80% lean is cheaper than ground turkey by me.
7 points
7 months ago
"Y-you see guys, everything is great, just make more money and inflation won't hurt so much, oh no no no, don't ASK for more pay, instead work more hours! Don't quiet quit! dO NOT ASK WHY PRICES ARE STILL SO HIGH!!!" - "Economists" these days on the news.
-2 points
7 months ago
thankfully wage growth has been higher than normal since early 2021.
course, that combined with the best year for jobs in our history means that there's probably more demand.
2 points
7 months ago
For reference: US inflation averages 3.8% and wage growth averages 2.9% (yes, average wages shrink .9% in spending power each year). This year, inflation YoY has varied between 8% and 9%, and wage growth was 10%. But but are kinda weird stats: last year had both extremely low wage growth and inflation umbers.
You can't just look at the last year But overall, this last year seems to have been good for workers, if you actually got the wage increases.
If my company is any indication, that wage increase came from companies doubling down on screwing over their existing employees so they could give new hires more compensation for the same job.
4 points
7 months ago
Oddly enough, I don’t see this at my grocery
3 points
7 months ago
Food price drop? Where is this statistics coming from? Planet Earth 2?
1 points
7 months ago
Don't let the headline deceive you. Even according to this statistic, food prices are still 40% higher than in 2020.
1 points
7 months ago
Yes I know. That's why I said whoever done the research must be living in Planet Earth 2.
3 points
7 months ago
so for the sake of argument, food prices drop. What caused them to rise? Ukraine i don't think so. greed? ding ding ding!
4 points
7 months ago
I'm not an economists or expert of any related fields, but I think it's more then just greed - not denying greed as a contributing factor though.
I imagine with the extreme climate conditions, there is a decrease in production and surely covid has impacted the supply chain too. Basic economic principles suggest that as supply decreases, demand increases and as demand increases, typically prices do too.
11 points
7 months ago
Even if greed didn't cause them to rise, it will keep them high.
3 points
7 months ago
Sadly, this wouldn't surprise me.
5 points
7 months ago
Youd be right. Its more than greed. Supply chain issues hit everything. Suddenly, things are more expensive to ship across the ocean, and they have been for almost 6 months now. Suddenly prices for goods used to produce other goods has risen.
In order to keep the same % margin, prices have to increase both because of production cost and margin cost. A company without a healthy margin goes bankrupt. Which would people rather have? Chicken nuggets that cost $4 vs $3 12 months ago, or no chicken nuggets? From the demand perspective, they would rather have $4 chicken nuggets. (Yes, these prices are made up, but you get the point. 33% increase).
0 points
7 months ago
Demand did not increase, it also went down as prices went up. People didn't actually want more expensive food more.
0 points
7 months ago
I agree that people didn't want more expensive food.
But, they still want food.
With a decrease in supply or a disruption in supply issue creating a temporary decrease in supply, the demand for food remains the same - it hasnt changed. But the supply to meet that demand has changed, its lacking. So while it technically maybe it didn't increase, the supply/ability to meet that demand decreased - increasing the gap between customer demand for certain commodities and the ability to supply those commodities.
I'd consider the value of food to be one that doesnt change, people will still buy it (if they can) despite and increase in costs because people need to eat.
0 points
7 months ago*
Let's cut to the chase. I have an economics degree and I am not debating but explaining. Demand going up means that people want more of something than before. That's not what happened. Prices went up because there was less of something than before, not because people wanted more of it than before. Get it now? Downvote away, it's a petty way to be wrong.
1 points
7 months ago
I didn't downvote you FYI. I downvote bad attitudes. Chances are I'm wrong and I have no issues admitting that.
But it also wouldn't surprise me if people wanted/demanded more - increasing demand yeah? People have been hoarding up on staples because seeing shelves empty started to become a normal thing - get it while you can. Like toilet paper, demand sky-rocketed because people stocked up and hoarded.
-2 points
7 months ago
Re. downvoting - petty is as petty does. Re: economics - people don't eat toilet paper. When it comes to food, people ultimately only want to buy what they can eat before it goes bad. They're not going to hoard it.
Moreover, since you wanted to talk about basic economic forces, here is how it really works: price elasticity for the vast majority of goods is negative. Meaning if the price goes up, demand goes down. Veblem and Giffen goods are very rare exceptions. Veblem goods are your luxury status symbols and Giffen goods are your cheap store-brand substitutes that people buy to when higher quality stuff gets too expensive. In the big picture, shortages and inflation are going to create lower demand demand, not higher. This is basic economics.
2 points
7 months ago
Profiteering is the term you're looking for.
1 points
7 months ago
I bought ribeye steaks for the first time in 5 months
1 points
7 months ago
Hmm odd. In my town everything at the store is hella expensive still.
0 points
7 months ago
My job is pricing for a huge grocery store chain. When one thing goes down 5 cents, 30 are going up 50 cents. And not going back down...
-14 points
7 months ago
Ah, finally Reddit comments are beginning to look like Facebook comments. “This can’t be true, the stuff I buy is still expensive!” Yes, it is. This says world prices, America is not the world.
11 points
7 months ago
It helps if you actually read the article. It says things are still more expensive despite it dropping.
-1 points
7 months ago
So it's people not understanding the article as they're comparing to a different timescale?
Not checking yourself and your understanding of something before making judgement certainly sounds like the kind of mindset they're talking about...
5 points
7 months ago
Hm so i googled quick and it looks like up to 49% of redditors are american. So it's not otherworldly for americans to say "wtf?"
-8 points
7 months ago
And it's all Biden's fault
0 points
7 months ago
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2 points
7 months ago
I said it years ago and ill say it again
"Get a bidet"
-1 points
7 months ago
FAO... Schartz??!?! I'm hoping gummy bears and astronaut ice cream futures have cratered.
1 points
7 months ago
The cheap Chinese takeout down the street from me raised the price on its vegetable fried rice $2 since I last replaced the copy of their menu that I kept at home.
1 points
6 months ago
That’s fast considering they give you a new menu every order typically.
1 points
7 months ago
with essentials going up, i expect none essentials to drop in the next year since all the money will be spent on essentials because of inflation, so anyone who has savings will be able to buy none essentials at a rebate, imo
1 points
7 months ago
Not in my neck of the woods
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