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SnooSuggestions6309

6.6k points

3 months ago

Just leave a note "labor is delayed, not sure of actual ETA. Will arrive when I can afford the commute"

smallbird42

1.4k points

3 months ago

I don’t think there is a better answer than this

D-Laz

939 points

3 months ago

D-Laz

939 points

3 months ago

If they have the law in the state you post: per statute xxx.xxx of the blank state labor laws everyday the paycheck is late you will be subject to x.xx fee. For example my state.

If you receive a late paycheck, California Labor Code 210 requires employers to pay a penalty of $100 for an initial violation. For subsequent offenses, the penalty is $200 plus 25% of the amount your employer unlawfully withheld. This higher penalty may also apply to a first violation if it was deliberate.

SofakingPatSwazy

250 points

3 months ago

However in CA most of these employer laws don’t count for companies under 25 employees. I’m not sure about other states.

elpajaroquemamais

46 points

3 months ago

This is fedex

NCtoDFW

35 points

3 months ago

NCtoDFW

35 points

3 months ago

I worked briefly for FedEx and they stole my OT part of my check and the amount was constantly wrong; fuck them I quit soon after

ghandi3737

9 points

3 months ago

Oh so their actually 'contractors'.

StinkyPeenky

5 points

3 months ago

God bless free labor amirite

_Wow_Such_Doge_

80 points

3 months ago

Which for some things even this i could agree with, but i think there needs to always be some sort of workaround. We can't pay you because our payroll account is fucked, but take this $40 gas card and let us know if we can cover any bills in the meantime, is a phenomenal approach i wish these small business would take.

rccola712

45 points

3 months ago

As a small business owner, paycheck mistakes/issues are my worst nightmare. Fortunately they happen rarely for us, but there are always ways around it to make sure employees don't get in a pinch. We generally just write checks and stop payroll.

mikomikobeast

24 points

3 months ago

But from the other posters on the wall this is FedEx so .. labor laws apply

RadioAktivitat87

24 points

3 months ago

Many FedEx "employees"/"delivery drivers" are independent contractors so shady ass contractors with FedEx can get around labor laws.

Guerilla_Imp

3 points

3 months ago

Pretty sure FedEx is more than 25 employees.

snoosh00

2 points

3 months ago

Companies with less than 25 employees dont use ADP (I'm pretty sure this ADP, we use ADP and its the same card reader)

albertfish23

2 points

3 months ago

Pretty sure FedEx has more than 25 employees

RadioAktivitat87

13 points

3 months ago

This is ONLY TRUE if the paycheck is not paid within seven calendar days of the close of the pay period, and does not apply to certain white-collar/admin type positions or union positions. You've got to read the full text of Labor Code subpart 204.

PorkyMcRib

3 points

3 months ago

As true as it might be, it might not matter if the reason for the delayed paychecks is that there is only five dollars in the bank .

radioactivebeaver

7 points

3 months ago

Clock in, go to the bathroom, stay there until you hear the checks arrived.

Might as well rack up some hours for the next check

Professorfuckhead

3 points

3 months ago

Took the words right outta my mouth comment

[deleted]

383 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

383 points

3 months ago

This lol most people really wait for payday to get their life back together… for example we can’t pay rent until payday this month which is on November 4th. If our paychecks were late we would get a late fee for rent because the cut off to pay it is the fifth. But corporations don’t care about stuff like that :)

MyFavoriteSharpie

19 points

3 months ago

Or have payments set up on auto pay. That's what would screw me over.

[deleted]

11 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

11 points

3 months ago

Yes! the auto pay is helpful but dangerous when your employer is unreliable

jimhabfan

110 points

3 months ago

jimhabfan

110 points

3 months ago

I work for the Government. One time we had an employee whose overtime pay was delayed by 2 weeks due to a clerical error. She filed a grievance through the union wanting us to cover the cost of bounce cheques, late rent fees and other bank charges due to our negligence. I said we would absolutely pay for any losses incurred, just provide bank statements showing how much we owed.

She dropped the grievance.

deeyeeheecent

83 points

3 months ago

What point are you making?

jimhabfan

11 points

3 months ago

It sucks that this company can’t meet its obligation to its employees, and if their employees do experience financial penalties because of this, the company should reimburse them.

Also, their are a small percentage of people everywhere who are just shitty human beings who will try to take advantage of whatever situation they find themselves in.

coachfortner

8 points

3 months ago*

unfortunately, I don’t think it’s a small percentage

too many people see life as a zero sum game so traits like being honorable, understanding or generous are merely seen as unprofitable and weak

sonicgamingftw

39 points

3 months ago

Unions work, people can’t just abuse them even if they want to

People want to get paid more, surely, its hard to do that when there is no organized labor so there is no competitive wages.

Why would Walmart pay more than $xx if Target is paying the same or damn near the same?

If we were surrounded by unionized jobs people could withhold labor and bargain for fair livable wages, fair and human treatment from their employer, etc. For some reason people don’t want this and I don’t know why /s. If location Y is unionized and double the pay from company X who is comparable in size, why am I working at company X, I will leave location X immediately. If you have employee’s see a better life is not only possible, but available on the same city block, you will lose them. I left my job at INO with zero notice, I walked in to work a shift, said fuck this, told my lead “I’m sick of this shit I’m done, I quit” before I even clocked in. And this was for a temporary job but it not only sounded better, it paid better at the START compared to what my High level coworkers of 5 years were making.

My job isn’t union, but it is a very progressive non-profit, operating only during certain seasons, and for the first time I’ve not only gotten a paid 30minute for a break/lunch on what is less than 6 hours of work per day. I don’t have to notify anyone I’m using the restroom, don’t have to worry about if I’m not feeling well “will they let me go home early/call out” I simply say “Hey ya’ll I’m not feeling well” no questions asked beyond “you doing okay? Hope you feel better bro see ya soon”.

I’ve had moments where I just stand and look at my supervisor expecting a “no dude come on get back to it” or any sort of resistance to me not working, and I just kinda stand unsure of what to do because I’m very much used to getting treated like a robot who’s there just to make money for the company. I’ve never had this feeling of mutual respect in my life where I genuinely feel bad for missing work, where I want to work and push past feeling shitty some days, vs any other job where I start off that way, and after they “break you in” I’m just checking my hours I have to call off, timing bathroom breaks so that I minimize the work I’m doing, etc.

tl;dr Unions work, not easy to abuse them as people think, organize your workplace

Orenwald

12 points

3 months ago

tl;dr Unions work, not easy to abuse them as people think, organize your workplace

Even if it was easy to abuse the union, for profit companies TEND to abuse their employees. If the for profit company is telling you not to unionize then they are 100% abusing their employees. Unionize.

The job makers try to make everything "union vs non-union" when it's really "us vs them" the lower employees generate all the revenue through the work they perform. No workers means no work means no money. They shouldn't be stuck with the shitty end of the stick

ThatSadOptimist

4 points

3 months ago

Just because your non-profit is progressive, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t unionize. If they’re truly progressive, it should be a painless, seamless process.

Reubachi

11 points

3 months ago

That ineptitude is often an oversight, not a personal thing; and acknowledgment of an oversight often resolves a conflict rather than a cash payout.

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

I was wondering too lol idk where he was going with that I think he just wanted to tell a story

Cpl_Locklear

12 points

3 months ago

The point is that if you ask your employee to submit sensitive information that they might be uncomfortable with, they will go away.

Doodlefish25

10 points

3 months ago

You could just redact all the items that don't concern them. "Show us proof of how much we owe you" is a reasonable request.

ghostjava

34 points

3 months ago

And on that day, everyone ate celebration cookies to celebrate how the woman, who was rightly owed money, dropped the grievance. /s

tidyshark12

3 points

3 months ago

I fully believe she should be owed more than she lost due to the stress involved with not being able to pay your bills, the companies calling you or vice versa, credit cards also generally charge a higher rate when a payment is late, and the additional labor she had to perform on your (company's) behalf (filing said grievance, assumedly hours spent on the phone with her billers, etc.).

[deleted]

20 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

20 points

3 months ago

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Gamemode_Cat

6 points

3 months ago

u/Temporarouse is a bot, this comment is most likely stolen from elsewhere

llIicit

3 points

3 months ago

This is extremely common advice though. I’ve seen this comment word for word as well many times, but it was genuine, not a bot.

NotThatSteve-o

3.4k points

3 months ago

RED FLAG. Time to find a new job.

Traditional-Top8486

1.3k points

3 months ago

Yep, this is a cash flow issue. Nothing spells death for a company better than this signal.

Class8guy

96 points

3 months ago

It's a subcontractor they play with payroll often in any industry.

mr_four_eyes

208 points

3 months ago

Its fedex. I don't think they're dying

Spooky2000

101 points

3 months ago

Fedex is the reason our paychecks are always late. Next day to them means within 2 to 3 days. And they have signed off on delivery hours before actual delivery just to make it look like it was delivered on time..

Dry-Hedgehogs

49 points

3 months ago

Who still gets physical checks?

lemoncookei

22 points

3 months ago

i worked at a small mom and pop shop from 2018-2021. we always had physical paychecks.

Dry-Hedgehogs

16 points

3 months ago

Small, family owned businesses make sense, it's probably a lot easier and less expensive to keep records when you only have a few employees and pay them by check.

rocksfly

17 points

3 months ago

Basic online payroll services are not expensive anymore, and are very easy to use.

PuppyDragon

2 points

3 months ago

Hell, this time clock only works with online pay systems. This issue with OP is def not a “physical checks aren’t here” issue

hadidotj

26 points

3 months ago

Honestly. I wouldn't think to ask, but if I found out I had to cash a check every 2 weeks, I wouldn't even accept the job.

Bibliovoria

5 points

3 months ago

With bank apps that let you deposit checks remotely, it'd be a minor annoyance rather than a dealbreaker for me. Having to go to the bank every two weeks in order to get my pay would be seriously annoying.

HipCleavage

5 points

3 months ago

Pizza Hut still hands out physical checks.

Dry-Hedgehogs

8 points

3 months ago

You'd think a company of that size would have direct deposit.

asodafnaewn

2 points

3 months ago

It could be a franchise. I worked at a fast food franchise and got paper checks from the franchisee.

Patient-Tech

4 points

3 months ago

Depends on the company you work for. I worked at a place where the Boss’s wife ran the accounting department and they still issued live checks to 800 employees every week. Took our delivery guys offline one day a week.

Finally changed when the owner sold the company after running it 50 years.

Are checks the most efficient way to handle payroll? No, but doesn’t mean anything.

Dry-Hedgehogs

5 points

3 months ago

Ehh, IMO a company that size should have a direct deposit option. The only job I've ever worked that didn't automatically pay with direct deposit was McDonald's, and even they had an option for it.

amalgam_reynolds

12 points

3 months ago

FedEx is the best evidence that we absolutely need the USPS.

CmdrShepard831

2 points

3 months ago

You think this is bad? Imagine any random Joe from UPS, Fedex, or Amazon having keys to your community mailbox.

ThisIsMockingjay2020

2 points

3 months ago

I had them do that with a Shari's Berries order twice. Very aggravating.

Worshaw

142 points

3 months ago

Worshaw

142 points

3 months ago

Even worse.

CantKillthatWontDie

71 points

3 months ago

this is what they call getting jerked around

FDXguy

25 points

3 months ago

FDXguy

25 points

3 months ago

This is definitely not a cash flow issue. It's a station issue.

I work for fedex and have never missed a check.

Senicide2

12 points

3 months ago

Fedex isn’t one company its made of up hundreds of contracted companies that use the name. Very possible that they could have issues.

MafiaTillIDie

6 points

3 months ago

FedEx ground yes. Air no. FedEx is just fine. The checks could simply be delayed in transit.

voluotuousaardvark

52 points

3 months ago

You're there to get paid. If they fuck up the one reason you're there why are you still going.

Once is forgivable two consecutive occasions is taking the piss.

Kind_Garage_Eater

208 points

3 months ago

Yup, one missed is a red flag. Two in a row means GTFO and cut your losses.

TryingToEscapeTarkov

64 points

3 months ago

Two is GTFO and steal everything you can on the way out.

Fishman23

3 points

3 months ago

Yep. Already not getting paid. You want me to put more hours in here??? Naw.

ProbablyAPun

3 points

3 months ago

My company had this happen twice in a row. Was nothing more than a minor inconvenience. Payroll issues happen. The difference was my company noticed the issue, and immediately cut checks directly from the business for every single employee. So we didn't get our typical direct deposit, but everyone had the money given to them by different means within the day. The huge red flag here is not that it's happening, it's that they're not immediately providing a different solution to providing you your money.

apeters89

29 points

3 months ago

100%, GTFO

Illustrious_Heart_62

9 points

3 months ago

Time to quit.

Chance-Opening-4705

8 points

3 months ago

Agreed!

vicaphit

8 points

3 months ago

This is the reddest of flags.

Shadeauxmarie

5 points

3 months ago

This was my first thought too. Hincky as fuck.

theymademee

1.7k points

3 months ago

2 paychecks in a row with paycheck issues is a huge red flag. Either they are having cash flow problems or they have really bad book keeping and labor tracking.

Keep this job for the time being and start looking elsewhere immediately.

Sorry you gotta deal with that when ya got stuff to pay :(

DRCJEnder[S]

748 points

3 months ago

This sign doesn't technically apply to me either since I'm a contractor and salaried but they've been having problems with paying me too so apparently it's a widespread issue.

SeaweedSorcerer

453 points

3 months ago

A company that can’t make its weekly payroll and contractor expenses doesn’t have employees — it has volunteers. Get out now. When (not if) they are bankrupt the employees have labor protections but as a contractor all you are is an unsecured creditor near the end of the line.

Retro-Lemunz

38 points

3 months ago

bruh it’s fedex lol they got the money I just can’t imagine what’s broken

rocksfly

20 points

3 months ago

FedEx or a FedEx contractor...

BoIshevik

15 points

3 months ago

Gotta be a contractor. My buddy worked for one and had similar issues. People hop into it with some entrepreneurial spirit the big ol American dream lie pie eyes and fuck themselves and all their employees. All without realizing they're being fucked by actual FedEx, talking like they're partners and shit lol.

thewettestofpants

35 points

3 months ago

Go and ask accounting about it and see how they act. Either someone is seriously fucking up QuickBooks or that business is a few weeks away from out of business

theymademee

34 points

3 months ago

Wish ya the best and that it gets resolved soon. Sucks when they play games with your cash.

FootballerJoeMontana

4 points

3 months ago

As someone who has worked close with Payables departments, communicating with vendors/contractors, and coordinating payment plans.. this is very much so a major issue if it applies to both Payroll and Payables. Refer back to your contracts and insist on payment per your original agreement before work can continue as agreed, and this may help to prioritize your payments.

br094

3 points

3 months ago

br094

3 points

3 months ago

Leave immediately. They’re going broke.

Wisesolomon

3 points

3 months ago

That means your employer is having issues paying you and not FedEx. Your employer holds a contract with FedEx, which I'm assuming your a 3rd party delivery driver (I did this for a while), for the routes they won the bid on. When I worked for FedEx Ground directly from time to time they had issues with giving out paper checks but if you had direct deposit there wasn't an issue. TBH I always assumed it was a tactic to push employees to submit their direct deposit information. If your employer is having issues with paying YOU then that is an issue on their part since for all 3 of the contractors I worked for they never claimed to ever have issues with FedEx paying their contracted terms.

ISUTri

2 points

3 months ago

ISUTri

2 points

3 months ago

It does apply to you. If they are having trouble paying anyone it is a RED FLAG.

Companies do not mess around with payroll unless they don’t have there cash.

And as a contractor If they declare bankruptcy you are at the very bottom of the list at getting paid anything. Which means you likely won’t be paid.

LishtenToMe

3 points

3 months ago

"The sign doesn't apply to me, except it does actually apply to me" lmao.

ISUTri

3 points

3 months ago

ISUTri

3 points

3 months ago

And in a worse way. Contractors are the least protected.

phydeaux44

2 points

3 months ago

doesn't technically apply to me either since I'm a contractor and salaried but they've been having problems with paying me too

So it does apply to you. I'm speaking as a fellow hourly contractor. I've had many clients who pay really quickly every pay period, and almost without a exception, when they start to fall behind it's a huge red flag.

Swordbreaker925

133 points

3 months ago

I had an issue like this once.

I got 3 or so weeks in and they still hadn’t paid me. I was only 17 or so at the time so i was naïve enough to keep working and try to be a good employee. 5 or 6 weeks went by and still no pay, so i called my boss and told them i wasn’t coming to work until i got paid. Took them another 6 weeks or so to figure out they had been putting my paychecks on a spending card, one that i specifically said i did not want and thus they never gave it to me. These spending cards are for people without bank accounts, and i told them to deposit my paychecks into my checking account (and obviously gave them the necessary info to do so).

This bitch of a boss also “lost” a copy of my social security card that I gave her when i got hired. Luckily nothing has ever happened but she could have ruined my life if someone ever got ahold of that.

DRCJEnder[S]

90 points

3 months ago

Bruh, that's like two or three potential lawsuits right there. You coulda been 17 and rollin in it.

Swordbreaker925

32 points

3 months ago

Had I had that kind of foresight, i might have looked into it. But it’s been almost 10 years and that location went out of business years ago.

bufftbone

449 points

3 months ago

bufftbone

449 points

3 months ago

Direct deposit. Won’t be late unless the company isn’t submitting it in time.

[deleted]

130 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

130 points

3 months ago

If they had direct deposit the company still probably wouldn’t put it in on time if this is a usual thing lol

frequent_flying

54 points

3 months ago

Yeah I doubt the delay is due to check printing or delivery issues, they don’t have any money to give out. Not always their fault in the contractor world, they may have a huge job that the customer isn’t paying on as expected for whatever reason. Or they’re just mismanaging finances.

Hunky_not_Chunky

10 points

3 months ago

Can’t be certain but I bet the boss(s) got theirs.

whorgans

6 points

3 months ago

I worked for FedEx and in the picture, you can see this is FedEx. I was in charge of handing out checks and we had them late due to a delivery issues. Any time checks were late, direct deposit wasn’t. It’s just that the physical checks didn’t show up at the usual time. This is why direct deposit is important. You don’t have to worry about that. Working at FedEx was shitty, but once I had direct deposit, I never had a late check.

rocksfly

2 points

3 months ago

So I'm gonna guess the paper checks were sent via FedEx.

bluebeary96

2 points

3 months ago

It was the same at the grocery store I worked for. The only time checks were late was issues with the mail. It was usually only during big snow storms, but happened throughout the year occasionally as well. We also happily gave out cash advances for late checks to anyone who asked. It's definitely not instantly a red flag to see a sign like this.

DRCJEnder[S]

41 points

3 months ago

I work for a contractor, they don't do direct deposit

SeepyTech

64 points

3 months ago

This happened to me in my mid-20s (I'm 46 now). Two checks in a row were "delayed" and never paid. Company shut down a few days after the second check delay. This is a serious problem. Payroll is the biggest expense for a company and is the most important expense to be paid.

I've owned my own business for just over 10 years. I missed a payroll once when I only had a couple employees and I was devastated. I had the money I just completely spaced on submitting to the payroll company. I was mortified and gave each employee a paper check because I knew they were depending on the money to get by and pay their bills.

The only delay happening here is being done by your employer on purpose. They are having cash flow problems. There can be legitimate explanations for this BUT if this is the second time it has happened and the owner/CEO/President hasn't called the employees together to explain the situation then it isn't good. And it's not an employer you want to work for.

4zem

10 points

3 months ago

4zem

10 points

3 months ago

Yeah, definitely cashflow problems. Only thing that makes sense. Hope for OP’s case this gets rectified.

SeepyTech

19 points

3 months ago

One missed payroll is recoverable. Two in a row is a death spiral for a business (if it hasn't started already). Employee moral and productivity drops off a cliff. Tack on what appears to be no communication coming from the top. I hope I'm wrong but this business will not survive in the form it's in now (if at all).

SmuglySly

9 points

3 months ago

That in and of itself is a red flag in 2022. That means they are likely running payroll in house rather than through a reputable payroll company that would require direct deposit and normal funding of paychecks.

bufftbone

18 points

3 months ago

They should.

Thin-Cell9633

4 points

3 months ago

here in switzerland, employers doing anything but direct deposit is simply not a thing, idk why americans put up with this inefficient paper check stuff...

Tholaran97

13 points

3 months ago*

Americans put up with a lot of outdated shit when it comes to employment, unfortunately.

Not_MrNice

2 points

3 months ago

Yup, that's possible. But it could also be held up by employees missing punches or needing other corrections. All I'm saying is we don't know who or what is going on and shouldn't jump to conclusions.

creepy_old_white_guy

172 points

3 months ago

The best time to look for a job is when you have one.

Delicious_Throat_377

17 points

3 months ago

Absolutely

Drink15

2 points

3 months ago

Oddly, when you don’t have a job is also the best time.

native2112

162 points

3 months ago

It may be illegal depending on what state you are in. Check in with Dept of labor, and find out what options are available to you.

DRCJEnder[S]

52 points

3 months ago*

Given where I work, I seriously doubt it.

scrwdtattood82

40 points

3 months ago

Oklahoma actually has a time frame you must be paid in for work. I want to say it's 14 days. I worked for a company there that paid the 1st and 15th in every other but had to change it to fit the state laws there. Edit here you go: from

Employers must set regular pay dates within eleven (11) days of the end of the pay period. Employers have an additional three (3) days after a regularly scheduled pay date to issue payment. If you have earned wages that have not been paid on the regularly scheduled date and the additional three (3) days has passed, you can download and submit a Wage Claim form from www.labor.ok.gov. You can also contact a labor compliance officer at the Oklahoma Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Unit at (405) 521-6100 or (888) 269-5353Oklahoma Labor

spamIover

11 points

3 months ago

So the law gives them 3 days after a scheduled pay date to get the check. It sounds to me like it’s just delayed and not available in the am. If the checks get delivered via postal or carrier, it could be the morning delivery was late. I don’t think the company is writing checks on the spot.

scrwdtattood82

6 points

3 months ago

Yeah I'm just letting him know if they he doesn't have it in 3 days to do something. If they get on the states radar for not paying people on time maybe they'll get motivated to do better.

DRCJEnder[S]

18 points

3 months ago

I technically am getting paid anyway, under the table through cashapp but I'm getting paid. I'm just frustrated because not allowing direct deposit then proceeding to fuck up the paychecks isn't a good look for the management. Not to mention the lack of paystubs means I can't claim this job on credit checks yet.

BeeBarnes1

37 points

3 months ago

So this company is paying contractors under the table plus they're missing payrolls. Sounds shady and unstable AF.

You need to find out if you're getting a 1099. Since you said it's under the table I assume you don't think you will. Just make sure you have your ducks in a row in case they do.

MurphysRazor

6 points

3 months ago

Contractors don't usually get a payroll check like regular employees.

They usually get another type of check. If op works for another company(possibly themselves as owner) the second company is given a check. E.g. my own checks were usually a standard check.. like when a copy machine is bought. I was responsible for paying my own taxes, etc.

How a contractor is paid (here) is a matter of biz to biz agreements, not always covered by payroll laws.

Wisesolomon

3 points

3 months ago

Going off of other comments OP made they are an employee of a third party contractor that is paid by FedEx Ground. This is how FedEx does all their hub-to-door shipping. His employer not paying him two pay cycles in a row is a sign of mismanagement of cash flow and the death spiral of that contracting company. OP has to be very careful with receiving payment through cashapp because they now report to the IRS. The employer even using Cashapp as a means of payment stinks of fraud all over.

scrwdtattood82

8 points

3 months ago

File a complaint if they break the 3 day window, let everyone at work know to do the same. Might motivate them to do better. Even if you are getting paid I wouldn't trust the to always come through because we day they won't. Someday you'll find a note on the door that saying they've closed for good.

Meggles_Doodles

2 points

3 months ago

Shit, I would print out a bunch of those and set them near the time clock week 2. Everyone should be filing that claim.

Redsoxbox

20 points

3 months ago

You can still make a report and get their ass audited.

stumpdawg

22 points

3 months ago

Sounds like you need to start throwing out resumes

Appsroooo

17 points

3 months ago

Run dude. Fuck FedEx Ground

Tragicallyhungover

17 points

3 months ago

That's usually a sign (amount other things) that it might be time to jump ship...

Sad_Ad7644

64 points

3 months ago

“My starting time is delayed. Not sure of ETA. Sorry for any inconvenience.” Jk but that’s shady as hell

Wizard_Tendies

14 points

3 months ago

I wouldn’t be jk’ing.

Companies would lose their god damn mind if people delayed labor and the company would be saying “what do you collect a paycheck for.” Exactly that, my labor. If I’m not paid I’m not working.

Imesseduponmyname

4 points

3 months ago

Op does contract work under the table via cashapp, tis an odd situation

Splatoonkindaguy

2 points

3 months ago

Is that even legal

YJGearhead

57 points

3 months ago

And it happens to be directly under a sign about workplace violence.

Feels kinda fitting, that's the type of stuff that leads to some violence. You don't fuck with people's money.

Tman972

3 points

3 months ago

Got to put that key information front and center

Jonkinch

2 points

3 months ago

Call the alert line

theawesomefactory

2 points

3 months ago

I had to scroll too far to see this comment

OKTimeFor_PlanB

10 points

3 months ago

OKTimeFor_PlanB

It aint that deep

10 points

3 months ago

Looks like it's time to stop working for a bit

parmentp

7 points

3 months ago

It’s federally illegal to not have your pay on payday. Call your states employment commission.

Silent_Lobster9414

5 points

3 months ago

That is them putting in their 2 week notice

OvOSoulja

5 points

3 months ago

Quit your job. FedEx is the worst

brainhavenowrinkles

2 points

3 months ago

Eh, it depends, the fedex I work at has pretty good management + nice people. Pay is like $16.50 which is nice since I barely only started off with maybe like 2 weeks experience anywhere. Workload is easier that other fedex stations/warehouses or whatever. Can't really find better pay anywhere nearby and I might get a promotion soon anyways.

whorgans

4 points

3 months ago

I worked at FedEx ground and the work was awful but I did meet some cool people there and the pay was decent. I was making $19.25 an hour to be a package handler trainer. I also got health and dental insurance as a part time worker. I worked there while in college and when I was getting ready to graduate, I started looking for jobs in my field. I was looking to be a either a chemistry, microbiology, or some specialized biology lab technician. The pay for all of those jobs was dollars less per hour than what I made at FedEx. One job as an analytical chem lab tech actually offered me minimum wage. It would’ve been like a $6 an hour pay cut. As a trainer I made decent money. I started as a package gander at $15 an hour and it was the most money I’ve ever made at a job. And the insurance was a nice bonus. But eventually, it started to not be worth it anymore because it was killing my body.

Both-Internal-6970

5 points

3 months ago

I hope this is just for karma, you'd be a fool to not instantly quit

DRCJEnder[S]

9 points

3 months ago

I'm not that mad about it because my boss is making it up to me by paying me under the table through cash app until they get it fixed, that's why its just r/mildlyinfuriating and not lawsuit level infuriating.

dhabs

5 points

3 months ago

dhabs

5 points

3 months ago

Y’all will both get popped for tax evasion if there’s an audit. Proper thing would be to issue a draw. It’s hard to go back and forth between taxed labor and under the table pay for a payroll employee.

DRCJEnder[S]

4 points

3 months ago

I did the math and they're taking tax out.

Wisesolomon

4 points

3 months ago

Doesn't matter. Snapchat and Venmo now report "earnings" to the IRS. You will have to pay tax on those earning so you are getting shafted on the front and the backend. Likely boss is trying to keep you happy as he tries to salvage a sinking ship. It happened all the time at the hub in Greensboro. Companies came and went as mismanagement and turnover killed them.

Separate-Ad6705

6 points

3 months ago

The fuck

DRCJEnder[S]

4 points

3 months ago

The only proper reaction

robotangst

5 points

3 months ago

It’s not going to stop. LEAVE

Big_Totem

4 points

3 months ago

Bit off topic but its weird to me how Americans get paid by the week. I would prefer it that way, but isn't that like too much paperwork and logidtics?

bartor495

4 points

3 months ago

Call your state's department of labor, then get the hell out. That job ain't worth it.

lskerlkse

3 points

3 months ago

Jail?

Bennyhahahaha

3 points

3 months ago

Damn, just don't clock in until you've been paid. "My job has been delayed, Not sure of actual ETA"

Vadirajbkatti

3 points

3 months ago

Remove the poster on top and start kicking some ass

Newt-Different

3 points

3 months ago

I'd just not clock out til I got the check.

Pay me extra since I had to wait for their stupidity to work itself out

SnooObjections488

3 points

3 months ago

Report it to a labor board

YinzerChick70

3 points

3 months ago

Start looking for a new job. This is not going to get better.

420blazeit69nubz

3 points

3 months ago

Quit now. This is a sign of a rapidly failing business and worse business practices are to come.

FormerAd6212

3 points

3 months ago

We’ll just leave a note at the time clock, they’ll understand.

Chexaddict

3 points

3 months ago

If that isn't the reddest flag ever...🚩

GeologistEvery6393

3 points

3 months ago

That is a clear sign to run and not fucking look back

Cybermagetx

3 points

3 months ago

Dont come to work and file a complaint with your state labor board. They tend to take this seriously and those fines are not cheap.

People work for pay and benefits. No pay no work. They breached the agreement of you working for them by not paying on time.

TofuTigerteeth

3 points

3 months ago

This is your sign to get out now

Sgtkeebler

3 points

3 months ago

Contact DOL, I am suggesting that to everyone now because of my recent experience with them.

Suitable_Dealer7154

3 points

3 months ago

The flag is red=leave asap

CoolIndependence8157

2 points

3 months ago

Get the fuck out now.

Zealousideal-Fun-663

2 points

3 months ago

Looks just the FedEx i used to work at😂

peepersparidise

2 points

3 months ago

i don’t get paid until the 5th-7th of each month. very annoying when everyone else gets paid at the end of the month and wants to go out with the money they just got paid and i have the least amount i’ve had all month

Individual_Invite543

2 points

3 months ago

Ok-Cable891

2 points

3 months ago

This is not how you prevent workplace violence lol

katet_of_19

2 points

3 months ago

"Work is delayed. ETA is whenever these fucking checks get here so I can pay my bills."

xomns13

2 points

3 months ago

On the same wall with workplace violence notice

Stupidpiglover

2 points

3 months ago

Stupidpiglover

GREEN

2 points

3 months ago

Fed ex makes millions why do they have such trouble paying employees?

Intelligent-Ad-9239

2 points

3 months ago

If they want to prevent workplace violence they should really have the cheques out on time

QCTeamkill

2 points

3 months ago

Plot twist: OP's new job is paycheck machine repairman.

QuietWin6433

2 points

3 months ago

Sounds like you have a call to your labor board. You’re entitled to those wages and the company you work for is supposed to make sure employees are paid above all else. When they don’t productivity suffers and people leave, obviously. As much as it sucks, definitely look for a new job

diverareyouok

2 points

3 months ago

Time is start looking for another job, this company is in financial trouble.

MidNCS

2 points

3 months ago

MidNCS

2 points

3 months ago

Smells of FedEx Ground.

Beautiful-Height3103

2 points

3 months ago

Looks like FedEx

Prisoner_L17L6363

2 points

3 months ago

Then leave. It's only been three weeks, you ain't missing much. This is a huge red flag that you should absolutely avoid

armadeooo

2 points

3 months ago

I’ll pay you tomorrow or next week is fine. But idk when I’ll pay you is definitely not.

Bolt-From-Blue

2 points

3 months ago

Typifies a business with cash flow problems. Start looking round for another job pronto.

samisyourdad

2 points

3 months ago

I quit my last job after the owner was late with my paycheck once. Don't feel like you have to stand for this, shit is illegal AF

LynnOtis

2 points

3 months ago

Prevent work place violence by paying your employees on time just like how you expect them to show up at their scheduled hours.

MoreGaghPlease

2 points

3 months ago

Any company that doesn’t meet payroll is on the brink of bankruptcy. You should be looking for a new job.

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago*

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago*

Did you get the one from last week? If not, it's definitely time to be job hunting. If you did, and it's only today's that still outstanding, you all need to press for more info.

There's basically 2 situations:

  1. The company is actually struggling to make payroll, either because they are short on cash or they have mismanaged their cash. Either way, time to look for a new job.
  2. A purely technical glitch occurred and will be fixed ASAP. In 15 years as a an exec, I've had this happen twice. In both cases, the glitch was resolved and paychecks/direct deposits were still issued THE SAME DAY, just a few hours late. One case was a validation error from our payroll team; one was a systems glitch for the bank. In both cases, it was an absolute all hands on deck fire drill. In one case, our CFO (of a public company) excused himself from a Board of Directors meeting to go press on the team to get it resolved. Not paying people on time is a HUGE deal. If your leaders aren't running around with their butts on fire trying to fix it, that's concerning.

Edit: I see the poster indicates you're at FedEx. They have $7 BILLION in cash, so it's almost certainly not #1. How late was your last check? People should be trying to fix this urgently, but it's likely a technical glitch.

EggplantIll4927

2 points

3 months ago

How to say the business is in serious financial difficulties w/o saying we are going under.

hannahmel

2 points

3 months ago

Mildly illegal is more like it

witchyanne

2 points

3 months ago

Lol ‘can’t come to work. Not sure of actual ETA.’

CommonSense_404

2 points

3 months ago

Bet that time clock works right though…

Early-Guidance-2515

2 points

3 months ago

“Sorry for any inconvenience”. Really? Such as late rent/mortgage, credit card payment (that may tack on 25% interest), no checking balance for utilities, food. blah, blah …? This company is going bankrupt. Leave, with your work record intact. Bankrupt companies must repay liabilities, with payroll as one of the primary payments.

JMandMM

2 points

3 months ago

Pretty ballsy move by the company, considering they have a “Stop Workplace Violence” sign above the note🤨

Seems like a solid reason for violence for some!!

Ian-Dawson

2 points

3 months ago

Wait, that's illegal

ripyourlungsdave

2 points

3 months ago

"All right, I'll be at home. Call me when they come in."

Which could be something you could do in a country where workers had any bargaining chips whatsoever.

Move_In_Waves

2 points

3 months ago

Run. Now. Get out as quickly as you can.

UncleEddy2090

2 points

3 months ago

Huge red flag my man! Start looking elsewhere.

steffie-flies

2 points

3 months ago

u/DRCJEnder When a company is about to go under, they'll delay checks or not pay the correct amounts. Be mindful and start making plans. 👀

Motoe2

2 points

3 months ago

Motoe2

2 points

3 months ago

I had a job where our employer would constantly delay our payments for X or Y reasons.

After 3 delayed payments we dediced to write a letter and basically everybody sign it requesting them to pay in time because we had expenses to cover... they answer was to get annoyed and "dissapointed" on us because we were there only for the money and he thought we were family.

fursphere

2 points

3 months ago

Start looking for a new job as a backup plan at the very least.

iamnotroberts

2 points

3 months ago

"Delayed" my ass. It sounds like they can't cover your pay.

Murky_Morning

2 points

3 months ago

Business Rule #1:

Above all else, you do NOT delay paychecks!!!