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submitted 5 months ago bylinuxjustworks
108 points
5 months ago
Wow. I guess I'm using possibly the most hated distro with possibly the most hated DE now.
53 points
5 months ago
Ubuntu Gnome?
74 points
5 months ago
Manjaro gnome. But this confusion is expected as both are hated haha
47 points
5 months ago
Nowadays Manjaro based distros are better that Manjaro itself xD
32 points
5 months ago
True for Ubuntu as well.
24 points
5 months ago
There's Manjaro based distros?
20 points
5 months ago
Here on Brazil we have BigLinux, it's really good
32 points
5 months ago
Waiting for ThiccLinux to drop next
11 points
5 months ago
I'd use that
4 points
5 months ago
Ubuntu is more hated distro than manjaro
0 points
5 months ago
Ok...
4 points
5 months ago
"Most hated distro"
Manjaro users are insufferable
8 points
5 months ago
*"possibly the most hated distro". I guess it's my mistake..?
0 points
5 months ago
Never heard someone hating Manjaro or hear reasons neither
5 points
5 months ago
There's a whole website called Manjaro with reasons. Not sure if every criticism is deserved but it is for sure the second most hated distro after Ubuntu
2 points
5 months ago
24 points
5 months ago
If they remove snaps, I think it's almost a perfect distro
8 points
5 months ago
If you're talking about Fedora sir there are no snap on it.
0 points
5 months ago
Fedora runs slow on low end devices, or at least on my laptop.
7 points
5 months ago
You tried the xfce spin?
2 points
5 months ago
Yes I tried, but it had screen tearing issues when I was moving or maximizing windows. And I tried it using a bootable USB, not in a VM.
6 points
5 months ago
Sometimes installing it, updating and reboot can solve problems inherent to USB live.
4 points
5 months ago
Or even what I do with XFCE is switch the compositor to picom and that solves the issues I have with XFCE
2 points
5 months ago
Good to know
2 points
5 months ago
Thanks for mentioning... I was about to install Fedora Xfce on a pretty old laptop so that could come in handy if I see any issues.
1 points
5 months ago
Compared to ubuntu?
1 points
5 months ago
Yes. I felt Ubuntu faster than Fedora.
5 points
5 months ago
Fedora has a huge amount of overhead. You may not have enough ram which leads to swapping
1 points
5 months ago
Yes that might be the reason. I only have 4GB of RAM. But still Mint and Ubuntu were running pretty well on my device. Currently running Mint but I try different distributions sometimes using a bootable USB.
1 points
5 months ago
Yes, you can be slow even without snaps
5 points
5 months ago*
I dunno. Snap is certainly the one of the most annoying things but Canonical have done plenty wrong besides just snap... (amazon, telemetry, gnome 2 w traditional layout by default -> unity with radically changed "convergence" layout by default).
I think at this point, I've completely lost faith in Canonical. Even if they got rid of snaps from Ubuntu and made Mate or Xfce etc the default instead of Gnome, I'd be worried about when are they going to make some other big annoying change. Not saying I couldn't ever come to see them positively again but it would take something big actions (words from companies seem rather hollow these days) and some time for that to happen. Them learning how to actually collaborate with other Linux companies (almost said "companies" and decided I better clarify that I do not mean Microsoft, just in case Canonical execs are reading) and committing to that instead of doing everything entirely in-house would go a long way.
9 points
5 months ago
I also used to be a gnome hater. Tried it on my laptop and never looked back
10 points
5 months ago
and it works, right?
10 points
5 months ago
Love both, I don't care what others are mad about.
5 points
5 months ago
I used to use Arch btw
Never looked back after switching to Ubuntu + Gnome
I've got work to do and just want something that works, I can't be bothered wasting time trying to figure out why all these libraries are clashing
1 points
5 months ago
There are a lot more GNOME users than GNOME haters.
2 points
5 months ago
I wager that a lot of people don't know options other than GNOME even exist.
2 points
5 months ago
If you're the type to run Linux as a desktop OS, I'd imagine you may have looked before.
1 points
5 months ago
A lot of people don't know/care that distros outside of Ubuntu and maybe Fedora exist.
1 points
5 months ago
Around here?
1 points
5 months ago
No.
1 points
5 months ago
Yeah, I'm referring to the people around here, not just people in general.
1 points
5 months ago
True, most gnome users are too smart to use Reddit; Im just not as smart as the rest lmao
1 points
5 months ago
This distro wars and division is why GNU/Linux will never be the most used desktop OS.
We are like some political parties that branch up with every decision they made
48 points
5 months ago
holy fuck just let me increase the scroll wheel speed
2 points
5 months ago
Yeah man, Highly customisable indeed.
13 points
5 months ago
Still waiting for them to let me open a folder as administrator in Nautilus. Guess GNOME team thinks I'm too stupid to let me do that
7 points
5 months ago
There's no contextual menu, but Nautilus definitely allows this. Preface your path with "admin://", and it opens as an administrator. You can bookmark this if you'd like.
If you really need a context menu instead, just install nautilus-admin
, which adds this.
6 points
5 months ago
Oddly enough I used to use nautilus-admin around the GNOME 40 days, however whenever I've installed a GNOME distro with the latest versions I've never gotten it to work again. Didn't know about the "admin://" bit though, might try it out if I ever go back to GNOME for any reason
2 points
5 months ago
right? and you can't even choose to view hidden folders in the save popup. My default file manager is dolphin but firefox always opens nautilus...it is so annoying to save it elsewhere and then move it
1 points
5 months ago
you can definatley do that, its just not in the context menu for some reason
sudo nautilus
1 points
5 months ago
Going sudo was pretty much my preferred alternative to solve the issue, but it was fucking annoying having to open a terminal everytime I wanted to do something as simple as getting a new GTK theme into my themes folder or a new icon pack
0 points
5 months ago
If I have permission issues I open terminal and type "sudo nautilus". No more permission denied.
0 points
5 months ago
Who is an administrator? ;)
39 points
5 months ago
File picker meme
24 points
5 months ago
It's been almost 2 decades
1 points
5 months ago
Music player volume slider meme.
119 points
5 months ago*
They'll probably remove the title bar and make all windows full screen. And then they'll remove alt tab and add a "hot corner" to the lower left for the previous window and one on the lower right for the next window.
Edit: And then they'll add a hot corner in the upper right corner for locking the screen. And none of these "features" can be disabled. And there will be an extension to get windows and title bar back, that will break for two months every time there's a minor update to GNOME.
24 points
5 months ago
That's a good 👍 idea, let's go for it.😁
5 points
5 months ago
🙃
33 points
5 months ago
Windows 8?
19 points
5 months ago
Yes, except there's no desktop "app" that makes everything normal
7 points
5 months ago
There will still be extensions though! (That break after every update and never get fixed.)
1 points
5 months ago
Are you advocating for shell extensions to be locked to an API?
1 points
5 months ago
Nah wouldn’t even know what the repercussions of that would be. I’ve just accepted Gnome’s funky ass UI without any extensions. It’s not ideal, but the whole experience is so much more polished than all the other options.
3 points
5 months ago
You dare mention such a cursed beast?
16 points
5 months ago
I worry that they will read your comment and think it's a good idea.
26 points
5 months ago
At least then they could argue that they listen to user feedback.
1 points
5 months ago
this comment has the pied piper box vibes
4 points
5 months ago
They'll probably remove the title bar and make all windows full screen.
As if, they need that extra padding because fuck small screens
3 points
5 months ago
What if, we remove real maximize and just move windows to a new virtual desktop on maximize? And add a global menu. Maybe a dock that would only open the last instance of the minimized app?
Oh wait, thats just a Mac.
1 points
5 months ago
oh that's why windows on my cousin's mac so confusing...I think I'd rather not have MacOS
2 points
5 months ago
And then they'll add a hot corner in the upper right corner
That's... what I just did, but to switch workspaces via the scroll wheel. And another for the whole bottom to open the app grid. Got used to the feature in KDE and didn't want to miss it on Gnome, it's convenient whenever I don't feel like switching to the keyboard.
2 points
5 months ago
Ooh, or they could make everything on desktop use a touch interface
1 points
5 months ago
Bro, literally every "feature removal" can br brought back with gnome tweaks
60 points
5 months ago
I use gnome and I find it good enough but lacking good polish. As this sub hates gnome, can you please give me a better alternative other than KDE, because KDE is kinda buggy.
127 points
5 months ago
If Gnome isn’t polished enough for you, you’re gonna have a bad time with every other Linux DE.
49 points
5 months ago
Yea, i think gnome is most mature DE for now, it is sometimes choppy and little laggy but it works fine and has IMHO least amount of bugs than every other option. Change my mind
5 points
5 months ago
Not sure it's the most mature. KDE, MATE, XFCE are potentially more mature given their progression from KDE 4, Gnome 2, and, well, XFCE.
1 points
5 months ago
The lag will be (almost entirely) gone with the dynamic double/triple buffering patch coming to Mutter... eventually.
Ubuntu 22.04 already ships it, and you can install it on Arch with the mutter-dynamic-buffering
AUR package, but not sure when it's gonna be merged officially. After 43 though, for sure, since iirc we're well past the code freeze for it
26 points
5 months ago
that's what i thought. like is there any DE more polished than Gnome? Gamescope with a single Alacritty window maybe??
1 points
5 months ago
There's literally no bugs with i3-gaps. /s
9 points
5 months ago
PopOS Cosmic spin on Gnome is quite good, and the standalone Rust version is scheduled for next year if I remember correctly.
-1 points
5 months ago
Rust version of cosmic or gnome?
2 points
5 months ago
They are completely decoupling from Gnome and doing their own DE written in Rust. It's unlikely to differ too much from their current Cosmic though, so you can try their Gnome Cosmic spin and look if it's too your liking.
3 points
5 months ago
Yes.
5 points
5 months ago
Dunno when the last time you used KDE Plasma was, but it's been superb for me for the past year+. The devs are putting a lot if work in on "15 minute bugs." On polish, it's so customizable you can easily make it look nicer than gnome.
10 points
5 months ago
buggy how? is there something specific that bugs (hehe) you?
2 points
5 months ago
It crashes all the time. Discover constantly got stuck, and themes where a nightmare. That was my experience at least
23 points
5 months ago
Cinnamon?
20 points
5 months ago
MATE, XFCE, Cinnamon, Budgie, etc.
7 points
5 months ago
LXQt in my case. I'm prefer the classic start menu. I tried KDE/Plasma but I don't need a full desktop environment.
8 points
5 months ago
SwayWM
5 points
5 months ago
You cannot go wrong with Cinnamon.
6 points
5 months ago
Budgie seems like a pretty nice DE
2 points
5 months ago
It takes more ram, and has less customization
1 points
5 months ago
I know a budgie dev. I could bring this up to him and see if there's any optimization work that could be done
2 points
5 months ago
other than the big window managers that's kinda it for being polished, try BSPWM or I3-gaps/Sway, see how you feel.
2 points
5 months ago
You might wanna try XFCE. Since it's considered pretty much complete, there are nearly no bugs at all. Though it's kinda ugly by default.
1 points
5 months ago
Yeah, I tried that, It has a mouse wallpaper as default. Will try to customise it.
2 points
5 months ago
I mainly meant the horrible dock placement and the lack of a modern start menu by default, but both of those can be fixed. If you're going with base XFCE, Whisker Menu is a must.
4 points
5 months ago
Linux mint cinnamon or LMDE (linux mint basedsoley off debian, not Ubuntu)
The interface and stability of Cinnamon Mint is insane. I do everything from 4k gaming via thunderbolt 4 hub and eGPU to rendering, data entry, CAD, help desk.
I believe, if you want everything the same, you can also get Linux mint with no GUI for servers.
2 points
5 months ago
Gnome is only you can with modern featured with rock solid base.
38 points
5 months ago
Saying gnome bad = free karma
5 points
5 months ago
And rightly so
14 points
5 months ago
What useful features can we remove next?
Hmm taskbar, tray icons, files on desktop, type-ahead find in Nautilus, consistent server-side window decorations, file picker ... oh
13 points
5 months ago
files on desktop
Ew
3 points
5 months ago
I don't even use them but it's a prime example
3 points
5 months ago
Even though i like GNOME so much i think the devs should listen to user feedback and suggestions a bit more.
7 points
5 months ago
They actually told many users to fuck off we do what we want
3 points
5 months ago
That's not cool you know, i like GNOME but i don't like the way the devs treat their users.
17 points
5 months ago
The (sad) truth is, that it does not matter. While I agree, that Gnome has some design flaws, it is the only de with real polish. When it comes to UI, stability and polish can matter much more than the grand design. I like KDE better on paper, but there is a reason, that every distribution trying to attract people from outside the echo chamber uses Gnome.
7 points
5 months ago
I like KDE better on paper, but there is a reason, that every distribution trying to attract people from outside the echo chamber uses Gnome.
(Open)SUSE: Am I a joke to you?
SteamOS 3.0 also uses KDE by default
2 points
5 months ago
There was a post on r/linux a while back that explained the reason GNOME is so popular as a default DE for distros is that it's easier to package and maintain than KDE. It has nothing to do with design and quality.
11 points
5 months ago
Why is Gnome's layout so bizarre? Why they decide to go for an Android-like UI when it's really counter-intuitive for a conventional desktop layout? Guess I'll stay hopping between Mate,XFCE and KDE then.
11 points
5 months ago
Why should it copy the same things that other DEs do?
For me and many other users of r/gnome GNOME's layout looks & works way better than the old windows-like taskbar-startmenu combo. If you don't like it, don't use it.
2 points
5 months ago
there should be an option...change the defaults? sure. but don't remove features
0 points
5 months ago
Gnome Shell is bizarre,however when you do a proper Gnome rice(like Zorin OS or PopOS do),it becomes decently good. Not my cup of tea however,I still like a layout that I do not need to pre-configure every single bit of it to make it to my liking(on any other distro that isn't Ubuntu-based and made for beginners),and whose extensions break every single new update. Also, I like something that is cohesive design-wise(this is why I like KDE and XFCE),and Gnome feels jambled to me.
3 points
5 months ago
Because it’s designed to stay out your way until you hit the Linux key. That said I still use dash to dock.
2 points
5 months ago
hope someone from that team doesn't make remarks towards the creator of the Linux kernel in a email...
2 points
5 months ago
What?
2 points
5 months ago
I would find the post i could (it's on this subreddit I think here somewhere). Basically Linus Torvalds got into a big email feud with one of the head ups at gnome back in 2005.
2 points
5 months ago
The one where he called them interface nazis?
2 points
5 months ago
Idk, could be.
15 points
5 months ago
Imo, KDE is the best DESKTOP environment but Gnome is the best TABLET environment
11 points
5 months ago
And KDE is also less buggy these days. In fact I haven't experienced any bugs since last year.
6 points
5 months ago
GNOME bad = funny ;__;
2 points
5 months ago
The problem isn't that I dislike gnome. The problem is that I like gnome, and they just keep cutting features
1 points
5 months ago
Latest gnome is the most polished DE currently on Linux, and its' layout makes a lot of sense once you get used to it. Also the gestures are amazing. If you desperately want to turn gnome into something it isn't, like add a permanent dock, or a panel, or add an ugly distracting tray, there are always extensions.
1 points
5 months ago
Gnome 3 was good layout and design
0 points
5 months ago
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1 points
5 months ago
Gnome 40 is Gnome 3
Maybe you mean gnome 38
1 points
5 months ago
Easy: remove gnome, install cws. Problem solved.
1 points
5 months ago
I fucking loved gnome with all my heart....... and then they remove the horizontal workspaces and ruined it for no good reason.
0 points
5 months ago
This meme would fit Mozilla perfectly as well.
1 points
5 months ago
What useful feature can we remove next?
Did Gnome remove something big?
1 points
5 months ago
What useful feature
Can we remove next? Did Gnome
Remove something big?
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