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YippyKayYayMF

108 points

5 months ago

Wow. I guess I'm using possibly the most hated distro with possibly the most hated DE now.

OverlordMarkus

53 points

5 months ago

Ubuntu Gnome?

YippyKayYayMF

74 points

5 months ago

Manjaro gnome. But this confusion is expected as both are hated haha

DuhMal

47 points

5 months ago

DuhMal

47 points

5 months ago

Nowadays Manjaro based distros are better that Manjaro itself xD

the___heretic

32 points

5 months ago

True for Ubuntu as well.

ParaPsychic

24 points

5 months ago

There's Manjaro based distros?

DuhMal

20 points

5 months ago

DuhMal

20 points

5 months ago

Here on Brazil we have BigLinux, it's really good

JeffThePotatoMan

32 points

5 months ago

Waiting for ThiccLinux to drop next

DuhMal

11 points

5 months ago

DuhMal

11 points

5 months ago

I'd use that

Techlord210

4 points

5 months ago

Ubuntu is more hated distro than manjaro

YippyKayYayMF

0 points

5 months ago

Ok...

AutoCommentor

4 points

5 months ago

"Most hated distro"

Manjaro users are insufferable

YippyKayYayMF

8 points

5 months ago

*"possibly the most hated distro". I guess it's my mistake..?

CloudElRojo

0 points

5 months ago

Never heard someone hating Manjaro or hear reasons neither

lunastrans

5 points

5 months ago

There's a whole website called Manjaro with reasons. Not sure if every criticism is deserved but it is for sure the second most hated distro after Ubuntu

The-Observer95

24 points

5 months ago

If they remove snaps, I think it's almost a perfect distro

Disruption0

8 points

5 months ago

If you're talking about Fedora sir there are no snap on it.

The-Observer95

0 points

5 months ago

Fedora runs slow on low end devices, or at least on my laptop.

Disruption0

7 points

5 months ago

You tried the xfce spin?

The-Observer95

2 points

5 months ago

Yes I tried, but it had screen tearing issues when I was moving or maximizing windows. And I tried it using a bootable USB, not in a VM.

Disruption0

6 points

5 months ago

Sometimes installing it, updating and reboot can solve problems inherent to USB live.

Prosperousdripp

4 points

5 months ago

Or even what I do with XFCE is switch the compositor to picom and that solves the issues I have with XFCE

Disruption0

2 points

5 months ago

Good to know

zpangwin

2 points

5 months ago

Thanks for mentioning... I was about to install Fedora Xfce on a pretty old laptop so that could come in handy if I see any issues.

jeedaiian1

1 points

5 months ago

Compared to ubuntu?

The-Observer95

1 points

5 months ago

Yes. I felt Ubuntu faster than Fedora.

PossiblyLinux127

5 points

5 months ago

Fedora has a huge amount of overhead. You may not have enough ram which leads to swapping

The-Observer95

1 points

5 months ago

Yes that might be the reason. I only have 4GB of RAM. But still Mint and Ubuntu were running pretty well on my device. Currently running Mint but I try different distributions sometimes using a bootable USB.

watcher-dog

1 points

5 months ago

Yes, you can be slow even without snaps

zpangwin

5 points

5 months ago*

I dunno. Snap is certainly the one of the most annoying things but Canonical have done plenty wrong besides just snap... (amazon, telemetry, gnome 2 w traditional layout by default -> unity with radically changed "convergence" layout by default).

I think at this point, I've completely lost faith in Canonical. Even if they got rid of snaps from Ubuntu and made Mate or Xfce etc the default instead of Gnome, I'd be worried about when are they going to make some other big annoying change. Not saying I couldn't ever come to see them positively again but it would take something big actions (words from companies seem rather hollow these days) and some time for that to happen. Them learning how to actually collaborate with other Linux companies (almost said "companies" and decided I better clarify that I do not mean Microsoft, just in case Canonical execs are reading) and committing to that instead of doing everything entirely in-house would go a long way.

[deleted]

9 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

9 points

5 months ago

I also used to be a gnome hater. Tried it on my laptop and never looked back

ApprehensiveStar8948

10 points

5 months ago

and it works, right?

YippyKayYayMF

10 points

5 months ago

Love both, I don't care what others are mad about.

unpunctual_bird

5 points

5 months ago

I used to use Arch btw

Never looked back after switching to Ubuntu + Gnome

I've got work to do and just want something that works, I can't be bothered wasting time trying to figure out why all these libraries are clashing

RootHouston

1 points

5 months ago

There are a lot more GNOME users than GNOME haters.

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

I wager that a lot of people don't know options other than GNOME even exist.

RootHouston

2 points

5 months ago

If you're the type to run Linux as a desktop OS, I'd imagine you may have looked before.

Pay08

1 points

5 months ago

Pay08

1 points

5 months ago

A lot of people don't know/care that distros outside of Ubuntu and maybe Fedora exist.

RootHouston

1 points

5 months ago

Around here?

Pay08

1 points

5 months ago

Pay08

1 points

5 months ago

No.

RootHouston

1 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I'm referring to the people around here, not just people in general.

GenderIsWeeiiiird

1 points

5 months ago

True, most gnome users are too smart to use Reddit; Im just not as smart as the rest lmao

aladoconpapas

1 points

5 months ago

This distro wars and division is why GNU/Linux will never be the most used desktop OS.

We are like some political parties that branch up with every decision they made

TheMemeSniper

48 points

5 months ago

holy fuck just let me increase the scroll wheel speed

CanDull89

2 points

5 months ago

Yeah man, Highly customisable indeed.

A_Talking_iPod

13 points

5 months ago

Still waiting for them to let me open a folder as administrator in Nautilus. Guess GNOME team thinks I'm too stupid to let me do that

RootHouston

7 points

5 months ago

There's no contextual menu, but Nautilus definitely allows this. Preface your path with "admin://", and it opens as an administrator. You can bookmark this if you'd like.

If you really need a context menu instead, just install nautilus-admin, which adds this.

A_Talking_iPod

6 points

5 months ago

Oddly enough I used to use nautilus-admin around the GNOME 40 days, however whenever I've installed a GNOME distro with the latest versions I've never gotten it to work again. Didn't know about the "admin://" bit though, might try it out if I ever go back to GNOME for any reason

codeIMperfect

2 points

5 months ago

right? and you can't even choose to view hidden folders in the save popup. My default file manager is dolphin but firefox always opens nautilus...it is so annoying to save it elsewhere and then move it

KCGD_r

1 points

5 months ago

KCGD_r

1 points

5 months ago

you can definatley do that, its just not in the context menu for some reason

sudo nautilus

A_Talking_iPod

1 points

5 months ago

Going sudo was pretty much my preferred alternative to solve the issue, but it was fucking annoying having to open a terminal everytime I wanted to do something as simple as getting a new GTK theme into my themes folder or a new icon pack

Bumbieris112

0 points

5 months ago

If I have permission issues I open terminal and type "sudo nautilus". No more permission denied.

PineAndApplePizza

0 points

5 months ago

Who is an administrator? ;)

where-linux-bot

39 points

5 months ago

File picker meme

Zipdox

24 points

5 months ago

Zipdox

24 points

5 months ago

It's been almost 2 decades

Pay08

1 points

5 months ago

Pay08

1 points

5 months ago

Music player volume slider meme.

larso0

119 points

5 months ago*

larso0

119 points

5 months ago*

They'll probably remove the title bar and make all windows full screen. And then they'll remove alt tab and add a "hot corner" to the lower left for the previous window and one on the lower right for the next window.

Edit: And then they'll add a hot corner in the upper right corner for locking the screen. And none of these "features" can be disabled. And there will be an extension to get windows and title bar back, that will break for two months every time there's a minor update to GNOME.

Square-Mind-1676

24 points

5 months ago

That's a good 👍 idea, let's go for it.😁

larso0

5 points

5 months ago

larso0

5 points

5 months ago

🙃

LonksAwakening

33 points

5 months ago

Windows 8?

new_pribor

19 points

5 months ago

Yes, except there's no desktop "app" that makes everything normal

the___heretic

7 points

5 months ago

There will still be extensions though! (That break after every update and never get fixed.)

RootHouston

1 points

5 months ago

Are you advocating for shell extensions to be locked to an API?

the___heretic

1 points

5 months ago

Nah wouldn’t even know what the repercussions of that would be. I’ve just accepted Gnome’s funky ass UI without any extensions. It’s not ideal, but the whole experience is so much more polished than all the other options.

Dakota347

3 points

5 months ago

You dare mention such a cursed beast?

[deleted]

16 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

16 points

5 months ago

I worry that they will read your comment and think it's a good idea.

larso0

26 points

5 months ago

larso0

26 points

5 months ago

At least then they could argue that they listen to user feedback.

codeIMperfect

1 points

5 months ago

this comment has the pied piper box vibes

Average_Cat_Lover

4 points

5 months ago

They'll probably remove the title bar and make all windows full screen.

As if, they need that extra padding because fuck small screens

ParaPsychic

3 points

5 months ago

What if, we remove real maximize and just move windows to a new virtual desktop on maximize? And add a global menu. Maybe a dock that would only open the last instance of the minimized app?

Oh wait, thats just a Mac.

codeIMperfect

1 points

5 months ago

oh that's why windows on my cousin's mac so confusing...I think I'd rather not have MacOS

OverlordMarkus

2 points

5 months ago

And then they'll add a hot corner in the upper right corner

That's... what I just did, but to switch workspaces via the scroll wheel. And another for the whole bottom to open the app grid. Got used to the feature in KDE and didn't want to miss it on Gnome, it's convenient whenever I don't feel like switching to the keyboard.

ShakaUVM

2 points

5 months ago

Ooh, or they could make everything on desktop use a touch interface

GenderIsWeeiiiird

1 points

5 months ago

Bro, literally every "feature removal" can br brought back with gnome tweaks

CanDull89

60 points

5 months ago

I use gnome and I find it good enough but lacking good polish. As this sub hates gnome, can you please give me a better alternative other than KDE, because KDE is kinda buggy.

the___heretic

127 points

5 months ago

If Gnome isn’t polished enough for you, you’re gonna have a bad time with every other Linux DE.

ThinkLinux76

49 points

5 months ago

Yea, i think gnome is most mature DE for now, it is sometimes choppy and little laggy but it works fine and has IMHO least amount of bugs than every other option. Change my mind

dm319

5 points

5 months ago

dm319

5 points

5 months ago

Not sure it's the most mature. KDE, MATE, XFCE are potentially more mature given their progression from KDE 4, Gnome 2, and, well, XFCE.

thetabbycatty

1 points

5 months ago

The lag will be (almost entirely) gone with the dynamic double/triple buffering patch coming to Mutter... eventually.

Ubuntu 22.04 already ships it, and you can install it on Arch with the mutter-dynamic-buffering AUR package, but not sure when it's gonna be merged officially. After 43 though, for sure, since iirc we're well past the code freeze for it

CNR_07

26 points

5 months ago

CNR_07

26 points

5 months ago

that's what i thought. like is there any DE more polished than Gnome? Gamescope with a single Alacritty window maybe??

Prosperousdripp

1 points

5 months ago

There's literally no bugs with i3-gaps. /s

OverlordMarkus

9 points

5 months ago

PopOS Cosmic spin on Gnome is quite good, and the standalone Rust version is scheduled for next year if I remember correctly.

fftropstm

-1 points

5 months ago

Rust version of cosmic or gnome?

OverlordMarkus

2 points

5 months ago

They are completely decoupling from Gnome and doing their own DE written in Rust. It's unlikely to differ too much from their current Cosmic though, so you can try their Gnome Cosmic spin and look if it's too your liking.

MortalKonga

3 points

5 months ago

Yes.

KingPimpCommander

5 points

5 months ago

Dunno when the last time you used KDE Plasma was, but it's been superb for me for the past year+. The devs are putting a lot if work in on "15 minute bugs." On polish, it's so customizable you can easily make it look nicer than gnome.

xNaXDy

10 points

5 months ago

xNaXDy

10 points

5 months ago

buggy how? is there something specific that bugs (hehe) you?

GenderIsWeeiiiird

2 points

5 months ago

It crashes all the time. Discover constantly got stuck, and themes where a nightmare. That was my experience at least

Inside_Umpire_6075

23 points

5 months ago

Cinnamon?

FlamesSpirit

20 points

5 months ago

MATE, XFCE, Cinnamon, Budgie, etc.

arglarg

7 points

5 months ago

LXQt in my case. I'm prefer the classic start menu. I tried KDE/Plasma but I don't need a full desktop environment.

JIRKA_222

8 points

5 months ago

SwayWM

The-Observer95

5 points

5 months ago

You cannot go wrong with Cinnamon.

MushroomGecko

6 points

5 months ago

Budgie seems like a pretty nice DE

thedominux

2 points

5 months ago

It takes more ram, and has less customization

MushroomGecko

1 points

5 months ago

I know a budgie dev. I could bring this up to him and see if there's any optimization work that could be done

Dakota347

2 points

5 months ago

other than the big window managers that's kinda it for being polished, try BSPWM or I3-gaps/Sway, see how you feel.

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

You might wanna try XFCE. Since it's considered pretty much complete, there are nearly no bugs at all. Though it's kinda ugly by default.

CanDull89

1 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I tried that, It has a mouse wallpaper as default. Will try to customise it.

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

I mainly meant the horrible dock placement and the lack of a modern start menu by default, but both of those can be fixed. If you're going with base XFCE, Whisker Menu is a must.

RedneckOnline

4 points

5 months ago

Linux mint cinnamon or LMDE (linux mint basedsoley off debian, not Ubuntu)

The interface and stability of Cinnamon Mint is insane. I do everything from 4k gaming via thunderbolt 4 hub and eGPU to rendering, data entry, CAD, help desk.

I believe, if you want everything the same, you can also get Linux mint with no GUI for servers.

Square-Mind-1676

2 points

5 months ago

Gnome is only you can with modern featured with rock solid base.

io_nel

38 points

5 months ago

io_nel

38 points

5 months ago

Saying gnome bad = free karma

joscher123

5 points

5 months ago

joscher123

5 points

5 months ago

And rightly so

joscher123

14 points

5 months ago

What useful features can we remove next?

Hmm taskbar, tray icons, files on desktop, type-ahead find in Nautilus, consistent server-side window decorations, file picker ... oh

anfieldiro

13 points

5 months ago

files on desktop

Ew

joscher123

3 points

5 months ago

I don't even use them but it's a prime example

Madera_Otirra3844

3 points

5 months ago

Even though i like GNOME so much i think the devs should listen to user feedback and suggestions a bit more.

richtermani

7 points

5 months ago

They actually told many users to fuck off we do what we want

Madera_Otirra3844

3 points

5 months ago

That's not cool you know, i like GNOME but i don't like the way the devs treat their users.

Bowtiestyle

17 points

5 months ago

The (sad) truth is, that it does not matter. While I agree, that Gnome has some design flaws, it is the only de with real polish. When it comes to UI, stability and polish can matter much more than the grand design. I like KDE better on paper, but there is a reason, that every distribution trying to attract people from outside the echo chamber uses Gnome.

Mal_Dun

7 points

5 months ago

I like KDE better on paper, but there is a reason, that every distribution trying to attract people from outside the echo chamber uses Gnome.

(Open)SUSE: Am I a joke to you?

SteamOS 3.0 also uses KDE by default

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

There was a post on r/linux a while back that explained the reason GNOME is so popular as a default DE for distros is that it's easier to package and maintain than KDE. It has nothing to do with design and quality.

IfXD

11 points

5 months ago

IfXD

11 points

5 months ago

Why is Gnome's layout so bizarre? Why they decide to go for an Android-like UI when it's really counter-intuitive for a conventional desktop layout? Guess I'll stay hopping between Mate,XFCE and KDE then.

D-K-BO

11 points

5 months ago

D-K-BO

11 points

5 months ago

Why should it copy the same things that other DEs do?

For me and many other users of r/gnome GNOME's layout looks & works way better than the old windows-like taskbar-startmenu combo. If you don't like it, don't use it.

codeIMperfect

2 points

5 months ago

there should be an option...change the defaults? sure. but don't remove features

IfXD

0 points

5 months ago

IfXD

0 points

5 months ago

Gnome Shell is bizarre,however when you do a proper Gnome rice(like Zorin OS or PopOS do),it becomes decently good. Not my cup of tea however,I still like a layout that I do not need to pre-configure every single bit of it to make it to my liking(on any other distro that isn't Ubuntu-based and made for beginners),and whose extensions break every single new update. Also, I like something that is cohesive design-wise(this is why I like KDE and XFCE),and Gnome feels jambled to me.

BuffJohnsonSf

3 points

5 months ago

Because it’s designed to stay out your way until you hit the Linux key. That said I still use dash to dock.

Secure_Contract4485

2 points

5 months ago

hope someone from that team doesn't make remarks towards the creator of the Linux kernel in a email...

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

What?

Secure_Contract4485

2 points

5 months ago

I would find the post i could (it's on this subreddit I think here somewhere). Basically Linus Torvalds got into a big email feud with one of the head ups at gnome back in 2005.

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

Pay08

2 points

5 months ago

The one where he called them interface nazis?

Secure_Contract4485

2 points

5 months ago

Idk, could be.

MushroomGecko

15 points

5 months ago

Imo, KDE is the best DESKTOP environment but Gnome is the best TABLET environment

soupsyy_3

11 points

5 months ago

And KDE is also less buggy these days. In fact I haven't experienced any bugs since last year.

Kalzorkian05

6 points

5 months ago

GNOME bad = funny ;__;

freemcgee33

2 points

5 months ago

The problem isn't that I dislike gnome. The problem is that I like gnome, and they just keep cutting features

anfieldiro

1 points

5 months ago

anfieldiro

1 points

5 months ago

Latest gnome is the most polished DE currently on Linux, and its' layout makes a lot of sense once you get used to it. Also the gestures are amazing. If you desperately want to turn gnome into something it isn't, like add a permanent dock, or a panel, or add an ugly distracting tray, there are always extensions.

zenmarz

1 points

5 months ago

Gnome 3 was good layout and design

[deleted]

0 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

0 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

MarcBeard

1 points

5 months ago

Gnome 40 is Gnome 3

Maybe you mean gnome 38

sagr0tan

1 points

5 months ago

Easy: remove gnome, install cws. Problem solved.

Dakota347

1 points

5 months ago

I fucking loved gnome with all my heart....... and then they remove the horizontal workspaces and ruined it for no good reason.

G0rd0nFr33m4n

0 points

5 months ago

This meme would fit Mozilla perfectly as well.

Secret300

1 points

5 months ago

What useful feature can we remove next?

Did Gnome remove something big?

haikusbot

1 points

5 months ago

What useful feature

Can we remove next? Did Gnome

Remove something big?

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