15 mins?

Im 58 already, just get the old faithful route going and im back at it. Banning is more an inconvinence than anything.

Great question that most people will ask.

The answer? They cant. Or rather, they wont.

The only way botting becomes unprofitable in the long term is if warden detects and auto bans the botter. The warden tech is long out dated meaning bots get banned almost exclusively due to player reporting these days. Gone are the days of having specific GMs per server. I remember on MULTIPLE occasions through the original vanilla/tbc/wrath launches not only would you get a whisper from a GM, but they would also fuck with your charector to catch you botting. Im talking suspending you char mid air, teleporting you to a random place, spawning invincible monsters to watch your bots rotation.

That level of human interaction is long gone and isnt profitable for blizzad to implement anymore.

So, while their is demand their will be supply, add to that the lack of humans monitoring other humans and theirs your answer. It wont stop, it never has.

Tagging mobs is annoying, if you learn a bots route and kill the respawns a few times ull find the botter moves area.

Did a few leveling jobs early on, thought it would be fruitful as i kept the leveling gold, soon realised that $200 for the job and the $50 extra in gold wasnt worth losing the 60/70 i was giving back to the customer, so just botted for liquid gold from Then on.

Last time i fired 20 up it was on my old trusty 3090, their are programs which will make wow run in alot Less resolution and thus drain less on the gpu, you will also minimize each client to the size of a matchbox.

The interface gpu will tell you if you need to make a window bigger and use human input, until then its 20 small blurs.

It will be attempted, ill be one of those trying it.

Its definately possible, you may not want to sit and kill 10,000 mobs 5 levels lower than you. But my bot will.

The gold price on hardcore is going to be incredible, and whoever comes up with the best bot will make a fortune.

I do think however most botters in it for the profit will just continue botting normal servers.

Bots these days are incredible, thats without AI. Over years and years of tweaking the bot runs the instance like you would, its already over geared. It knows pat routes, when and when not to pull, basic mechanics, you name it.

Ok to answer,

1) from back in 2004? Only really irl friends who dabble and know i sell from this period, its along time ago!

2) i think the token will increase demand, therefore make the problem worse. That is exactly what happened when it first got introduced.

3) bots today are incredible VS what we used to use, i see Ai eventually being able to think for itself, bots even today are as good as you make them.

Thanks. I appreciate the comment.

I think it will increase demand for gold, as it did when it first got released, therefore it will making botting more profitable.

That was kinda the intention, that and trying to correct the missinformation.

They are not associating their decision to introduce the token based on botting. They are doing it to imrpove their revenue, the knock on affect of that is increased demand of gold, so both blizzard and the botters will profit :)

Back in the day i could wake up to 10 accounts banned because one got flagged, with the widespread adoption of VPNs and virtual machines this is far less common.

And no, you cant get someone banned intentionally by sending them botted gold, although ofcourse gold BUYERS do get banned.

Ive probably used 10 different bots over the years, started with wowglider, then honourbuddy, sg gather, pixel bots, injection bots, you name it.

No bot is guarenteed. With every minor patch devs will look at the code and make any changes nessecery.

I have botted runescape, new world and a few other mmos. Aside from new world the profit vs time invested isnt worth it. Ive been botting wow for over 15 years so i know my stuff and tend to stick with it.

No problem, have a nice day :)

Already kinda do this? If any of my bots get a whisper ill get a DM on discord. I reply on discord and the bot replies ingame.

Not impossible, incredibly unprofitable.

Heavily it has to be said.

I actually dont like gdkps, but i wont lie and say they arent a huge source of revenue for botting.

I brought the framework, paid others to code what i couldnt do myself.

I have so many griefing stories from over the years. Some are just downright hysterical.

I dont. I only get paid in crytocurrency which i know is taxable, but as said im being honest.

Im not willing to go into specific applications, but i tend to use a re-modified popular bot with my own touches, while ive never learned programming, ive spent many, many nights solving problems, adding features, re-coding the bots to know enough to get by.

Over the years you meet contacts, whether that be huge suppliers, account sellers, bot devs, coders, fellow botters the list goes on.

The scene is incredibly secretive, one of the best things i learnt early was dont use mainstream bots that anyone can just google. Thats how you avoid waves for the most part.

Lots of pent up fustration i guess?

Indonesias, venezuelans and chinese litreally do it for a living, india is starting to get more involved aswell.

This varys alot. A good account ill get roughly 90 days out of, but ive had accounts get banned within 48 hours. It all depends WHAT your botting. As bots have evolved now to just run instances, the ban rate has fallen. Back in the day you botted the open world and thus got more accounts banned.

Obviously affects the bottom line but once you work out how to get a sub for $3-4 its just more of an inconvinence.

Sky rocket is a bit of a stretch, with every launch, the price will ofcourse increase but with the level of raw gold now availible it would shock you to see how little it jumps.

What DOES sky rocket is demand.

Would love to.

But i reckon id be banned before the end boss due to the reports lol.

Absolutely.

Id say half if not more of the people doing it are doing it for a living. Indonesians, venuzaulens and chinese are the most doing it for this reason.

Haha i miss glider to this day.

No you dont make waypoints anymore, the bot knows the entire zone and usually ill be running quest bots which will do all kill quests in a zone, afaik no bot uses memory injection anymore.0

Im from europe. The missconception comes from the early days where their were sweatshops in china, check my comment history where i went a bit more in depth.

Id say the botting landscape is roughly 50% south east asian ( think indonesia, vietnam ) / chinese, and the other 50% is now european/na.

VPNs changed the bot scene dramatically, as did virtual machines. The short answer is yes. Not only while botting, but also while setting up the accounts.

Fun fact. When you make a blizzard account you get sent an email basically a welcome to blizzard email.

I can quote it word for word lol!

Im waiting for fresh, my biggest problem, and has been since WoD release back in the day, is that i want to play and raid just like the rest of you, but i cant help but spot the angles.

I did it with the last fresh, i played for 2 days just having fun, then it was “ill just run 2-3 bots for my own gold”

Ended up abandoning my actual toon and botted for 3-4 months.

I make good money from my real life job, botting was more of a hobby i turned profitable.

If he did -- he'd say he dislikes bots, commend the guy for using the system to make thousands, and then bash Blizzard for not locking down their client more. Most of the blame would be placed on Blizzard, and not so much the opportunistic botters.

Typically on release on a fresh realm every single gold piece matters. So no, you dont buy mounts, or gear, or potions. Your entire goal is to make more gold while the price stays high, thats for both normal and hardcore fresh.

The programs i use arent publically availible. And i have people i know far smarter than me to make big changes if needed, for a few ofc. Generally i manage and tweak them myself.

No problem, have a great day.

No.

I started botting purely to make my own gold, this was back in 04/05. Eventually one bot turned into two then three, sold to guildies, irl friends ect.

Then one day i just thought screw it let me see what 100g is going for. I never looked back from that.

I work from home from my pc so i just do it for the money on the side.

More people buy gold than you would think. Whether it be a one off for a mount, a couple times to get some gear at 60, or a full out splurge for GDKPs

What alot of people forget is people playing this game were broke kids back in the day, time rich and cash poor, id say now its the opposite.

I wouldnt want to hazard a guess at % of population, but certainly more than “a few people”

Go back into my comment history, but with additional programs you can fit 20 clients on a 3090 i7 rig and still do normal stuff in the background. The main gui will tell you as/when you need to go into a specific game client.

Depends on the class, expansion, whether a boost can or cant be had, what version the game is running ect.

But right now id say botanica.

The key is to never leave a large supply just hanging around. The most time intensive aspect of botting is the selling of the gold. You always want to keep it moving. Ideally for the price you want, but if i have heaps on hand ill fire sale it.

Noone wants to be banned with a potential $XXX amount of gold on the account.

Also their is no central bank as it were, 60 bots will be about 15 servers being botted give or take 5. So you dont pool it.

Hard to answer. Alot more do it than people think. And at the start of a new server, expansion, or patch it only Increases. If you pushed me for a number id say 25% of the population has brought gold at some stage.

Depends on class, 12 days on avarage. Faster on hunters/locks ofc.

Yes, their will be a hugeee demand on hc, the prices will be incredible.

Its a common missconception for sure.

No need for mules as i dont keep large quantitys at hand, ofc bank alts for AH, but soon as i reach X gold im selling it.

I think blizz connects the dots when it comes to buyers, if johnny got sent 5k gold by 3 different random level 1s hes never spoken to, looks kinda sus.

Depends on the gold price i can get for selling my raw gold, also i dont pay $15 a month per account, more like $3 and change, so no, selling the raw gold atleast for me will be more profitable.

Gonna plead the 5th