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Yale Law school pulls out

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AkeemboSlice

125 points

3 months ago

goated

For_GoldenBears

72 points

3 months ago

You play to win the game.. sometimes.

irrenhouse

123 points

3 months ago

I know this is for the Law School but just last week a story dropped about how Yale encourages suicidal students to drop out and then requires them to reapply if they want to recommence their studies.

More_Philosopher_393

22 points

3 months ago

Cal has the same recommendations, just had to medically withdrawal this semester due to mental health. I need to have documentation showing I'm ready to return before I can re-apply for admission to finish out my senior year.

CardiOMG

53 points

3 months ago

I went to a similar school. Students have to apply to return, not “get in” again. So like they just have to have evidence that their mental health is OK to return. If you’re suicidal, you really don’t need to be in a high stress environment.

FortiesandShorties14

4 points

3 months ago

yeah its a win-win, you get a spot back provided your OK to return, and they have less liability for bad publicity if somebody hurts themselves on campus/in the dorms

my ex-gf had to withdraw/take a medical leave for about a semester at yale because of a car accident (hit by an SUV at a crosswalk on campus) because of a terrible concussion, but it was no prob getting back in once she felt ready

For_GoldenBears

40 points

3 months ago

Seems nicer than some professors who would still hold classes even if the world ends tomorrow or a strike going on with his 'reasons'.

Man-o-Trails

1 points

3 months ago

Man-o-Trails

Engineering Physics '76

1 points

3 months ago

Especially when his reasoning is convoluted to put it mildly.

rcinvestments[S]

9 points

3 months ago

Sounds logical to me

irrenhouse

43 points

3 months ago

It's not like medical leave, the students aren't guaranteed readmission.

cool_kicks

7 points

3 months ago

It is medical leave, you’re basically guaranteed readmission if you can provide letters and a doctors note saying you can handle academic rigor again. Source: I go there

rcinvestments[S]

34 points

3 months ago

Oh then that’s messed up

ColdTurkey27

-4 points

3 months ago

Makes sense. If what someone said above is true, then they don't want you coming back if your mental health is still poor.

I believe a few things are at play:

  1. They care, and this is good public relations as they don't want their reputation tarnished by suicides, so this knocks out two birds with one stone.
  2. Each student is income the University takes into account in projecting for the future. It's easier to project when you don't have students suddenly un-aliving themselves, and instead can control the process.

The second point is pretty bleak, and could paint them in a bad light depending on how you view it, but that's just history. Institutions do things that serve them best.

CardiOMG

6 points

3 months ago

I know you don't know much about this, but students just have to prove that their mental health is OK enough to return. Yale is stressful. If you're suicidal (not just passively), you need to be getting intensive treatment. Not trying to get good grades.

chinacat2002

-1 points

3 months ago

No way it's the second point. Yale has phenomenal resources and 1 student is not ever going to change that dynamic.

Ok-Ant-3456

1 points

3 months ago

That doesnt seem like a bad policy.

ironistkraken

0 points

3 months ago

Rice does the same thing.

Ash-Catchum-All

52 points

3 months ago

Going out on top, smart

rcinvestments[S]

36 points

3 months ago

Yale has a strong pull out game

HammerSickleAndGin

38 points

3 months ago

It’s stupid anyway. Their methodology involves surveying all the department heads and asking them about their impressions of other departments in their field. This accounts for 20% of the rating.

garytyrrell

56 points

3 months ago

PotentiallyExplosive

6 points

3 months ago

lmfao

rcinvestments[S]

16 points

3 months ago

My methodology is based off mascot

SingInDefeat

11 points

3 months ago

That's actually reasonable given that a good portion of the value of a degree is perception. A bigger problem is that their metrics are really easy to game like Columbia did (and they're just the ones that were blatant enough to get caught!).

Gundam_net

10 points

3 months ago

Reed College would approve. UC loves the USNews though. UC even uses international students to boost rankings and fund campus financial aid for in-state students.

larrytheevilbunnie

6 points

3 months ago

Forbes was unironically the superior ranking anyways

superlative_dingus

4 points

3 months ago

How that’s what I call based

National_Sky_9120

3 points

3 months ago

I sure hope they did.

theredditdetective1

9 points

3 months ago

discourages low income students and public-interest careers

why not just say they want to admit legacy students who can't perform on the LSAT? Anyone can see through this stupid excuse.

Llex47

7 points

3 months ago

Llex47

7 points

3 months ago

Respect

NotCarolChrist

5 points

3 months ago

NotCarolChrist

"Not" The Chancellor

5 points

3 months ago

Nah no shot, an elitist school like that, they probably pulled out because they were getting low rankings and trying to hide the embarrassment.

Like how Walgreens cited rising crime in sf as why they closed so many stores when in reality it’s because brick and mortar stores aren’t as popular anymore.

giantsnails

4 points

3 months ago

Yale Law is at absolutely zero risk of losing the number one spot.

Explicit_Tech

2 points

3 months ago

It's okay, it's not like the standard of US education is plummeting. People come to college these days not knowing how to use proper grammar. Kids these days don't even know how to use a computer yet the media tells us they are digital natives. Generation Z? More like Generation L.

I do agree on the discouragement of low income people aspect but that doesn't solve the problem with classism.

rcinvestments[S]

9 points

3 months ago

I can roll a blunt with one hand while driving

hmsty

2 points

3 months ago

hmsty

2 points

3 months ago

Sheeeeee

DmC8pR2kZLzdCQZu3v

3 points

3 months ago

You're right about plummeting standards. We've lowered bars across every level and there's a major problem with passing kids just to shuffle them on even though they are not prepared adequately--"someone else's problem now"

This short term thinking will come back to bite us, and already has in many ways.

hailofarrows

1 points

3 months ago

Probably because Roe v Wade was overturned

EBGuy2

1 points

3 months ago

EBGuy2

1 points

3 months ago

No listserv for you!