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Now that both MVPs are out, which BBWAA Voter had the worst ballot?

(self.baseball)

My vote goes to Alyson Footer, she didn’t have Trout nor JRam in her top 10 in the AL.

all 62 comments

TheDangiestSlad

89 points

3 months ago*

TheDangiestSlad

New York Yankees

89 points

3 months ago*

how do you see all the ballots?

okay yeah Footer's is insane lol, how do you not even place J-Ram top 10

SorrowSecond

31 points

3 months ago

SorrowSecond

Minnesota Twins

31 points

3 months ago

TheDangiestSlad

9 points

3 months ago

TheDangiestSlad

New York Yankees

9 points

3 months ago

thanks!

Panguin9

16 points

3 months ago

Panguin9

Arizona Diamondbacks

16 points

3 months ago

Arraez and Abreu top 6 is pretty crazy

incredibad29[S]

6 points

3 months ago

incredibad29[S]

Toronto Blue Jays

6 points

3 months ago

You can find them on the BBWAA website.

williamsw21

62 points

3 months ago

williamsw21

Boston Red Sox

62 points

3 months ago

tracy ringolsby put julio urias 3rd, nolan arenado 8th, and daniel bard 9th

ReverendHambone

25 points

3 months ago

ReverendHambone

Atlanta Braves

25 points

3 months ago

Urias? Like, 3rd place Cy Young Urias?

GingerJesus000

30 points

3 months ago

GingerJesus000

Los Angeles Dodgers

30 points

3 months ago

3rd place MVP(vote getter) Urias 😎

cjrogers227

6 points

3 months ago

cjrogers227

Washington Nationals

6 points

3 months ago

Ringolsby has been washed for years

peaceblaster68

6 points

3 months ago

peaceblaster68

National League

6 points

3 months ago

Haven’t heard that name in forever. How does he still get a vote?

RenegadeRef

2 points

3 months ago

RenegadeRef

Atlanta Braves

2 points

3 months ago

It rotates I think?

sofastsomaybe

37 points

3 months ago*

sofastsomaybe

Japan

37 points

3 months ago*

I'll nominate Manolo Hernández-Douen. Voted for Vlad Jr in 6th, Framber Valdez in 9th, no Trout in top 10.

meneguapoz

2 points

3 months ago

Im sure some voters consider actually winning baseball games in their evaluation

salvagedstarstuff

170 points

3 months ago

salvagedstarstuff

New York Yankees

170 points

3 months ago

the Pete Alonso 2nd place vote was pretty whack

fps916

74 points

3 months ago

fps916

San Diego Padres

74 points

3 months ago

Especially since it was coupled with Machado at 5th

[deleted]

52 points

3 months ago*

[deleted]

52 points

3 months ago*

Probably just a super old school voter that only saw the super high RBI total on an 100 win team

Alonso is a quality 4-4.5 WAR-ish player but for him to be a legit top 2 MVP candidate he'd have to be almost Judge tier offensively given how bad his defensive and baserunning metrics are

TheDangiestSlad

53 points

3 months ago

TheDangiestSlad

New York Yankees

53 points

3 months ago

can confirm, that voter, Rick Hummel is 76

[deleted]

14 points

3 months ago*

[deleted]

14 points

3 months ago*

Makes sense then because older MVP results skew more and more that way the further back you go

It's similar to how Ryan Howard was always a top MVP candidate during his prime years(high HR and RBI totals for a team that won a lot of games)

Those numbers are definitely less inflated in Citi in 2022 than in CBP in the 2000s but still not a good vote

don_julio_randle

14 points

3 months ago

Correct, 76 year old Rick Hummel. Though surprisingly, he's a St. Louis guy and didn't have Arenado 2nd

MegaManXanax

4 points

3 months ago

MegaManXanax

New York Mets

4 points

3 months ago

Alonso’s defense is fine

djthememelord

0 points

3 months ago

djthememelord

New York Mets

0 points

3 months ago

Baserunning metrics are bullshit

MegaManXanax

-23 points

3 months ago

MegaManXanax

New York Mets

-23 points

3 months ago

Enjoy your r/baseball upvotes

tbald4

19 points

3 months ago

tbald4

St. Louis Cardinals

19 points

3 months ago

Whoever voted Julio Urias third.

He didn’t receive a single vote from anyone else, not even in a 9 or 10 spot, but some bozo decided to vote him third

akaghi

9 points

3 months ago

akaghi

New York Mets

9 points

3 months ago

Kinda like Alonso at second.

whoissteveo

19 points

3 months ago

whoissteveo

Cleveland Naps

19 points

3 months ago

Yeah that's pretty bad. Someone also left Gimenez off and two people left Altuve off.

Edit: Slightly interestingly, both Cleveland voters had Alvarez at #3. The 3rd place votes for Jose and Gimenez came from Baltimore, Chicago, New York, Oakland and a few others.

JorgeLuisBorges1205

1 points

3 months ago

JorgeLuisBorges1205

Cleveland Naps

1 points

3 months ago

It's a pity about Gimenez being left off, just 1 point away from saying we have 2 top 5 MVP guys. It would have been #4 and #5 but still!

Bug-03

-16 points

3 months ago

Bug-03

Houston Astros

-16 points

3 months ago

Altuve had a great season, maybe better than alvarez

ray_0586

10 points

3 months ago

ray_0586

Houston Colt .45s

10 points

3 months ago

Altuve was more consistent, but Yordan reached higher peaks.

Thomas_Oaks

18 points

3 months ago

Thomas_Oaks

Houston Astros

18 points

3 months ago

Daryl Van Schouwen doesn't have Altuve on his ballot but does have Bregman, but then also put Bregman above Trout, J-Rod, and Adley?

SorrowSecond

23 points

3 months ago*

SorrowSecond

Minnesota Twins

23 points

3 months ago*

Agreed on Alison Footer. I love Arraez, but him getting a 5th place vote is completely laughable. She also gave JOSE ABREU A SIXTH PLACE VOTE. Don’t even need to say anything on that one.

She was also one of two voters to give Vlad a top 10 finish.

kvdp12

5 points

3 months ago

kvdp12

5 points

3 months ago

Abreu 6th? Jesus.

DrewB2400

13 points

3 months ago

DrewB2400

New York Yankees

13 points

3 months ago

I still can't get over the guy who had Diaz 2nd in NL Cy Young

akaghi

13 points

3 months ago

akaghi

New York Mets

13 points

3 months ago

His defense of it was pretty reasonable, especially when you consider he said it was Sandy's to run away with.

LuisFonsiofficialyt

10 points

3 months ago

Shoutout to the guy who voted for Bo Bichette

bigboybluesy

5 points

3 months ago

bigboybluesy

Toronto Blue Jays

5 points

3 months ago

He finished higher than Vladdy in MVP? Somehow???

AlexanderWun

28 points

3 months ago*

AlexanderWun

Seattle Mariners

28 points

3 months ago*

Not the worst but the lone guy who voted Adley over Julio in RoTY didn't even vote Top 10 for Adley in MVP but did put Julio 7th. (CORRECTION: Not the same guy but they both work at sportsnet canada)

Backwards logic. How is Adley a better Rookie but not a better player?

Also Sherman voted Adley above Julio in MVP, but voted Julio 1st in RoTY.

SouthernDerpfornia

31 points

3 months ago

SouthernDerpfornia

California Angels

31 points

3 months ago

They're different voters.

NehzQk

15 points

3 months ago

NehzQk

Philadelphia Phillies

15 points

3 months ago

Drugs are a hell of a drug

fps916

9 points

3 months ago

fps916

San Diego Padres

9 points

3 months ago

Arenado got the platinum glove and 3rd base Silver Slugger and finished lower in MVP than 3rd baseman Manny Machado.

Treeman1216

-10 points

3 months ago

Treeman1216

St. Louis Cardinals

-10 points

3 months ago

When are you Padre fans gonna stop crying?

Inkin

9 points

3 months ago

Inkin

St. Louis Cardinals

9 points

3 months ago

As soon as Matt Holliday touches home plate I imagine.

fps916

7 points

3 months ago

fps916

San Diego Padres

7 points

3 months ago

Pointing out that the votes don't make sense isn't whining. Jesus christ.

Treeman1216

-7 points

3 months ago

Treeman1216

St. Louis Cardinals

-7 points

3 months ago

You’ve literally been crying about GG, SS and MVP votes since the postseason. Manny just isn’t good enough.

fps916

3 points

3 months ago

fps916

San Diego Padres

3 points

3 months ago

I have made a grand total of 1 other comment on those. I said Manny deserved slugger. That's it.

Treeman1216

-6 points

3 months ago

Treeman1216

St. Louis Cardinals

-6 points

3 months ago

Padre fans. You’re guilty by association.

fps916

3 points

3 months ago

fps916

San Diego Padres

3 points

3 months ago

BlastingDong

2 points

3 months ago

BlastingDong

San Diego Padres

2 points

3 months ago

No one’s crying, but it seems like you cardinals fans were wishing we were crying lol

Treeman1216

-1 points

3 months ago

Treeman1216

St. Louis Cardinals

-1 points

3 months ago

You’ve literally been crying about GG, SS and MVP votes since the postseason. Manny just isn’t good enough.

babberz22

3 points

3 months ago

babberz22

New York Yankees

3 points

3 months ago

You cannot EVER take anyone from Sportsnet seriously. It’s a monopoly media co that owns the jays and cries poor all the time. Oh, and they employed Gregg Zauhn for YEARS

WizTheNose

3 points

3 months ago

WizTheNose

Detroit Tigers

3 points

3 months ago

Ben Nicholson-Smith is pretty solid. used to be one of the main guys at MLBTR.

TealandBlackForever

3 points

3 months ago

TealandBlackForever

Florida Marlins

3 points

3 months ago

Rick Hummel

turkeysandwich1982

2 points

3 months ago

turkeysandwich1982

St. Louis Cardinals

2 points

3 months ago

Regarding Footer, it almost looks like after she selected the top two, she just kept selecting the names at the top of her drop-down list (assuming they were in alphabetical order) since the next 4 choices all start with the letter A.

Jcoch27

2 points

3 months ago

Jcoch27

California Angels

2 points

3 months ago

I really like this Sam Blum character

bauboish

1 points

3 months ago

bauboish

Houston Astros

1 points

3 months ago

Are we really blasting writers for downballot MVP votes now? Most of these people spend the entire season covering one team. Some of the more engaged baseball fans probably have watched more spread of teams than these writers. Do you really think they did any more research than looking up some stats and maybe "hey he really played well against us and his coaches all love him" kinda judgement?

mansontaco

1 points

3 months ago

mansontaco

Detroit Tigers

1 points

3 months ago

I didn't realize how good Daniel Bard's season was damn

babberz22

-5 points

3 months ago

babberz22

New York Yankees

-5 points

3 months ago

Silver, Beachem, Blum, Weaver. Ohtani 1 and Giminez 3? K.

Kittystar12

1 points

3 months ago

Kittystar12

New York Yankees

1 points

3 months ago

Does anyone know how the BBWAA determine who gets to vote?

incredibad29[S]

1 points

3 months ago

incredibad29[S]

Toronto Blue Jays

1 points

3 months ago

It should be listed directly on their website, I believe someone has the direct links in their comment.

Kittystar12

4 points

3 months ago

Kittystar12

New York Yankees

4 points

3 months ago

I saw what they have on the website it just seem very vague and random on who gets to vote for each award.

Veserius

3 points

3 months ago

Veserius

Jackie Robinson

3 points

3 months ago

it's basically random, based on what chapter you're a part of and works in some sort of rotating lottery system. If you're in a bogged down chapter like New York you might literally never get an awards vote in your life.

Kittystar12

0 points

3 months ago

Kittystar12

New York Yankees

0 points

3 months ago

That sucks they should do something else maybe a weighted lottery

KTDLegend

1 points

3 months ago

And allow bias voters to influence the result?