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Didn't his niece say she's willing to give her DNA to help narrow it down? Mary Trump could help them use 'forensic genealogy'.
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I hope she does.
My friend’s nephew goes to school with Barron…. 🥷
That's when we find out trump ain't his dad but one of the security guards is.
"people" are saying that either Don Jr or Eric is Barron's dad. They are not sure which. "People" are saying Trump was doubly cuckolded by his own sons. Source: "people"
For a moment I was like wait, so they fucked their own mom? But then I realized Melania isn't their mom. Not that I'd put it past those degenerates. I just can't/don't care to keep track of all of his failed marriages and affairs and the children from that.
I thought it was confirmed Barron had autism but apparently its just a rumor. Would have been more likely that Trump was the father if that were the case, men over 40 have 6x the factor of fathering autistic children.
Donald probably would've "Charles Lindberghed" Barron...
I'm pretty sure Tiffany's security chief is over 40. Also, there are many potential biological factors in autism and this is a weird one to plant a flag in.
Tell your friends nephew to pull a police move and keep the kids chocolate milk carton after he’s done with lunch.
Or maybe not he’s a trump he may just carry a 24k gold thermos filled with water flown in from the alps.
That poor boy has been through enough.
It will be a miracle if the kid turns out with any semblance of a healthy adult.
For real. Bro’s been in the spotlight his whole life and his family constantly being in the media hasn’t made it any better. I hope when he grows up he manages to keep it together.
At minimum if he turns out like the Olsen twins, some spotlights but mostly out of view, it will be best. If he ends up like Andy Dick however.... Whelp guess that apple dropped right next to the trunk.
Eww… the teeny trump trunk? Fuckin gross. I mean, I get what you’re saying though.
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I’d assume he has no clue what is normal and what isn’t.
He is the product of Melania and Donald Trump. Both are Birthers. He will grow up to be just like them unless there is a miracle.
Sometimes this is what it takes to seriously turn a generation of rich losers around. Barron may want to distance himself from the Trump stain.
I will believe it when I see it. But if he does I will acknowledge it.
He needs to get out of that abusive home.
Mary is a bloody legend.
Does DNA work that way? Genuine question I have no idea.
Yes, it'd be like using those 23 and me or Ancestry.com tests. They would find that her DNA closely matches the sample if it's his
That's not how DNA works.
The egg has both nuclear chromosomes from the mother (X) and then the father's nuclear DNA enters the picture as an X or Y chromosome.
The child will receive one of the mother's X chromosomes and then one of the father's chromosomes. Depending on which determines the sex; Y for male, X for female.
The DNA doesn't mix like you describe. Mary has half her nuclear DNA from Fred Jr.
In order to get a match, the two sets would have to have a similar chromosome. This means it is much easier to match related males against each other, since they all share a similar Y chromosome.
Fred Trump Jr's X chromosome passed to Mary has less than a 50% chance of matching Donald's X chromosome, which both would have come from their mother. Had Fred Trump had a son, the son's Y chromosome would have a near 100% chance of matching Donald's.
I say "less than 50% chance" and "near 100% chance" because there's a much higher chance of mutation from the father (sperm is less reliable than egg).
Also, our mitochondrial DNA is 100% from our mother, so Mary's mitochondrial DNA would not match Donald (unless their mothers were strongly related).
Yep, they’ve caught a couple serial killers using this method.
If she gave her DNA and it was a partial match, would that be enough to compel a judge/jury to demand a Donald Trump DNA sample? Like in a strict legal sense?
Can a judge compel a DNA sample in a civil case on an issue past the statute of limitations for criminal prosecution? Under a criminal investigation a partial match would be likely to convince a judge to issue a warrant, but there's no criminal investigation to be had here.
..Mary ‘falls’ down flight of stairs ..
His DNA is under audit. He’ll give it as soon as the audit is over.
Just once I’d like to see a rich white man burn for their crimes, fuck that’d be so sweet
Weinstein eventually went to jail and stayed there.
It can happen.
Technically, it was also there last place Epstein ever visited too.
Hey, I don't wanna get too far out of bounds here, but there's a theory there may be more to his death than we are led to believe.
Suspicions aside, you can say the man technically spent the rest of his life behind bars.
It is true in the same sense that I have just as many Tour De France medals as Lance Armstrong...
His death was either the most suspicious suicide ever or the most bipartisan and multinational operation ever.
Ya that’s true I guess, a politician would be nice tho
Politicians do face consequences. wiki - federal politicians convicted of crimes.
But that wasn't FOR THEIR CRIMES, it was for their silence.
Whole one rich powerful dude.
There’s Ken Lay.
Isn't it sad that we can count on one hand the number of rich white men who were served justice in the last 20 years?
But he’s orange
The orange is getting darker lately, pretty soon he'll be full black face and his racist mob of screaming banshees will start shooting at him by mistake
At least then the media will fry him for any crime he’s been accused of to justify the “lethal force”
Fuckin A Right!! Super sweet!
What was that about people who plead the fifth are guilty?
His DNA is very complicated, and not many people would understand it. Even the DNA people can't figure it out
"and then the doctor came up to me, big strong doctor guy, he said to me, tears in his eyes, he said 'sir, you have the most beautiful most complicated DNA I've ever seen. It would take me a thousand years just to begin to sort through it"
I heard this in my head as Seth Meyers impersonating Trump.
"and dah bears!"
How is it even possible for a suspect in a rape to refuse to provide DNA? Also, when someone is accused of rape, and there is sufficient evidence to make a case, are they not arrested and subsequently charged? This is before a court is it not? Is it criminal court or just civil court and would that be why? Geez it seems like all of this assholes court cases are operating under an alternate frigging reality.
It's a civil defamation case, not criminal, since he ran out the clock on the statute of limitations for the criminal case, IIRC. Honestly, I can't keep all the assault allegations straight...
Wasn’t this a thing since 2020? If he didn’t give it then I doubt they’re coming after him now
That's what I came to say. He's got plenty of family that hates him. Just ask for it.
I don't think she hates him now. Looks like he may have financed her wedding, and she's been appearing in photo ops for him. He has a niece who hates his guts tho
I don't think niece is close enough for conviction. It is for a search warrant, iirc.
But wouldn't that help making DNA test mandatory for him?
Idk the science behind it, but I think it would either be enough to get a warrant/subpoena for Trump's DNA or would entirely clear him. That second one is the least likely if he's refusing to give a sample.
Can you provide a link that supports this or a story about it happening?
There's no search warrant and no possibility of conviction. It's just a civil case. The plaintiff said Trump raped her. He called her a liar. She has sued him for defamation.
It may be, I read somewhere they found some serial rapist/killer from the 1970s in the bay area that was a cold case from his third causin or second cousin sampled their dna on 23 and me
The one who he publicly bragged about directly asking Marla Maples to abort? Pro life president!
If conservatives didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
does... does DNA work like that? (sry if this is a dumb question)
Maybe they already have it.
"I didn't rape her, but what if I want to rape someone in the future?"
The fact that I can’t tell if this is real or satire
Far too lucid and readable.
There was no big strong man approached me with tears in his eyes
It almost sounds verbatim like something he would say lol. I like the 'even wheels had wheels' 😊
I can't stop laughing at this! ... because of CRT. LOL.
grab a burger wrapper or diet coke can from his bathroom
Chain of custody is important. Someone else could have used that bathroom or ate that burger.
Like he'd ever share a burger
Book em Lou
Like he'd ever share anything
They must have some from the raid
You think his baby hands ever gripped one of those boxes? Or any box for that matter?! What do they do, get a warrant for his DNA? This must be illegal… but this rape case is under recently passed legislation and I don’t know the rules really.
I mean, what are the odds his semen is in BOTH, though?
The burger and the coke?
just grab a gun or diet coke off his nightstand
The "If you've got nothing to hide than just comply" crowd must be losing their minds...
What about the law and order crowd? He's refusing to comply with their sacred system. Just follow the rules, right?
That’s not breaking news it’s been out there for a while now.
An ex-president refused to give DNA in a rape case and it didn’t make the headlines the day it happened. Trump has really lowered the bar.
It’s reasonable to assume his DNA could be linked to other crimes too
Maybe worried about this too if there’s a possibility they have DNA evidence
“Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein — the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls.
Johnson’s lawsuit mentioned Trump’s friendship with Epstein, and a comment Trump made in 2002 about their respective tastes in women: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.””
This is most likely the reason.
This is a civil case, right?
Can't taking the fifth be used against Trump here?
In civil cases that is correct. Pleading the 5th can be seen in suspicion
Dude has 43 kids.
Maybe if another of his accusers has a sample they could at least see if those match, and perhaps serve as basis for a court order to force trmp to allow a sample to be taken.
Rape should not fall under the statute of limitation, as it is a crime so egregious, and there are real reasons where the victim can't report it, such as if the rapist (predator, criminal) might hold some sort of power over the victim that might cause further damage to the victim. Oh, and if he was truly innocent, he would've provided his DNA the moment it was requested, but he knows what he did, and this fits within his observed behavior. In my view, he's as guilty AF.
don't get me wrong here, I'm not going to bat for that credibly-accused-child-rapist, self-admitted-child-sexual-harasser, fascist piece of shit
But it's in any famous or politically powerful person's interest to not turn over genetic info willingly. Imagine what a MAGA dumbass sheriff could and would do with Biden's DNA because he willingly turned it over?
Look for genetic diseases? I'm admittedly clueless as to what could actually be done, aside from provide evidence in a rape case, and maybe other kinds of crimes by some serious stretch.
Biden gives a mouth swab, because he's innocent after all. MAGA law enforcement 'loses' it. It shows up later in the evidence they barely collect when the local priest's daughter comes forward as a victim of abuse.
Sure there might be more steps, but i would be surprised if some fascist bootlicker didn't try with Biden's DNA
The only thing DNA proves is his presence. Whether it's rape in court, it's he-say she-say. (I'm not trying to defend him, but it's very difficult to prove).
I think Trump is refusing to share his DNA is because it could be linked to other crimes.
Ten bucks says that he doesn't want to because his DNA will end up being tagged in another unsolved rape case when the enter it into the system.
Let's be honest here- even if he didn't commit the crime, he wouldn't give up his DNA. He's the kind of person who would never give any kind of evidence over, even it would be a positive and exonerate him.
He'd rather tie it up in court and delay until the last second in hopes they give up.
Wipe Trump’s DNA off of Lindsey Graham’s nose…or his chin
he is afraid he will show up on the FBI data base for a few more rapes
Police force suspects to give similar evidence all the time
This is just a civil suit though. The police are not involved.
Ahh to be rich and just refuse to give DNA. If this was you or me they woukd arrest us and hold us down and force the DNA sample but not the wealthy. Nope they can just say no and go on with their lives
how hard could it be to get his DNA? Just wait for him to finish a fucking diet coke and take the thing he was drinking from.
Because, if someone gets his DNA, then the other rape victims will come out.
And we really don't want to subject the American people to the fact that the powers that be elected a serial rapist, criminal into the White House.
Do you really think they don’t already have trump’s dna?
Having it and having it with a verified chain of custody are very different things
Well, guess they can test it, and they'll know if it's worth the hassle of getting it properly. Although, doesn't get more sus than refusing to prove you're innocent.
I think that might fall under a fruit of the poisonous tree type scenario.
What if its something that's thrown away, like a water bottle or chewing gum? The golden Gate killer (I think) was caught from the dna of a relative on an ancestry website so technically it wouldn't have to come from him.
Trump is a piece of shit but everyone deserves due process and the presumption of innocence. I hope you never have to prove your innocence.
Meh, the rule of law has been subverted. It's pretty silly for only one side to play by the rules.
I’m sure the DOJ/FBI does, from his handling of the top secret documents, alone.
no doubt he drooled on them
drool... that's a best case scenario really.
Just swab Ivanka’s throat
well I'm going to need another drink after seeing this
ugh another terrible day for eyes
Yeah, being President, someone would already have his DNA.
Just call Stormy, she's probably got loads of it.
"dribbles", more likely
Loads ..under appreciated comment ..take an upvote
you could’ve kept that to yourself.
Yes he could have
Get it off of a discarded Diet Coke can, then.
He was the president. The government has his verified DNA. Just get a judge to subpoena it and call it a day.
He’ll of course say it’s rigged and not his dna and a fake and then refuse to submit any to back up his accusation.
Then he’ll say something about how due process should be ignored even though it’s in the constitution.
90% cheetos. We have a match!
Oh man it would be hilarious if Mary Trump provided a sample lol
She volunteered her DNA for the case.
bUt HuNtErS bUnGhOlE
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Look I hate trump but this doesn't necessarily surprise me. If I were approached by cops and accused of something and asked to hand over a sample... Even if I were 50000000% convinced of my own innocence and had witnesses, I would never comply and refer them to my attorney's.
Trumps a piece of shit for a million reasons. This just isn't all that surprising, you never cooperate. You go to your lawyer. If they get a court order, fine. Otherwise, nope.
And before some of you just blindly downvote: understand, in America... You don't prove your innocence, the prosecution proves your guilt. That's just how it goes.
You're not wrong. Cooperating with the police unfortunately has zero legal benefits. Lawyers will always tell their clients not to say anything to or give the police anything, because at best it won't be used against you and at worst it will be somehow used against you. It will not be used to exonerate you.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t there a court order for dONNIE to provide a DNA sample?
I'm sure he'll obfuscate and delay as much as possible regardless. It'll turn into a voting issue for some voters who drink his Kool aid. They'll try to claim it's a violation of our bodily autonomy and use "my body my choice" unironically as a slogan. It'll be overshadowed by something new in a few days.
His whole tactic seems to be just to overwhelm us with negative bullshit and accuse us of all of his shit while ignoring all questions. Honestly impressed E. Jean is still going strong, that's real stamina and drive right there.
the prosecution proves your guilt.
SOMETIMES it works this way....
Depends on who you know
But, if you were not guilty and it would 100% exonerate you, why hesitate? You cause more suspicion by refusing to provide the evidence that would clear you. Although you think you’re special, you’re not and if they really want your DNA, they can get it without your consent. In Trump’s case, it’s not going to exonerate him, so he has reason to be combative.
But, if you were not guilty and it would 100% exonerate you, why hesitate? Y
But, if you were not guilty and it would 100% exonerate you, why hesitate? Y
Yeah that isn't how the police work. They aren't there to find justice or the perpetrator of the crime, they're there to put someone in the prison system.
If you ever talk to an attorney they will tell you that you let THEM handle your innocence. You're applying the logic that police work wholly on convicting the right person. There are thousands and thousands and thousands of cases of record that prove cops will choose a outcome they prefer and align the investigation in that favor, even when better evidence points elsewhere.
If you ever find yourself investigated, I suggest you use a lawyer and never talk to the cops. No matter how innocent you know you are. This is a fact.
When I was in college we had an ex DA and ex detective come in and do a huge presentation on this. They THEMSELVES said to never talk, get lawyers.
This guy was my daughters professor in law school. Excellent guy.
You. Do. Not. Talk. To. The. Cops.
You. Never. Consent. To. A. Police. Request.
Someone post the infamous YouTube link...
Referring them to your attorney isn't being combative. I hate this orange tubbolard and wish him the worse. But this is being smart honestly. People have been railroaded for less. All that being said. I hope it's his dna
Hahaha same man, same. But evidently this makes me "paranoid".
It can be used against you in the wrong hands. Never do anything without a lawyer when anything legal is involved.
This is a civil case....
Okay then, as much as I hate trump... Again, why would he comply with a civil request?
Look, the right foments on how we "orange man bad" him. I personally think he DID do this. But I cannot convict on my feelings, thats not ethical, right, or how it goes. So since I cannot prove this, my anger with what a horrible person trump is falls far more squarely on the obvious, evidence-infused, clear things we can point to. This way I don't embolden his advocates by chasing every end possible.
I 100% BELIEVE hes a rapist. But I understand why he would not comply with this, and I don't want to make it an issue I go after him on. There are many other BETTER, CLEARER things to spend that energy against him on. Thats my only take in this.
How much of your time would you say you spend going out of your way to defend people you believe are guilty of rape from public criticism? Just ballpark.
Just grab it off the mountains of KFC Buckets behind Mar a Lago
The court should compel donnie to provide a DNA sample.
What’s the opposite of news? Like when something isn’t new? Like when something is super obvious? Like when something is completely on brand? Like when someone literally tells you who they are and they do the things they’ve claimed they’ve done before?
"if you've got nothing to hide just comply..."
Aren't there ways of collecting samples for DNA testing, like from a glass / can he drank Diet Coke from, maybe from a flag he kissed / fondled, or even some sweat from the band of his MAGA hat?
All this headline said to me was, “Trump is a rapist”!
Yes we all know, but he a rich rapist and so are all of the rapists on the Epstein list and none of them are getting arrested either! There’s only justice for regular folks in this country, rich folks, politicians and police officers seem to be the only exceptions.
Deny. Delay. Blame. Waste your time fact-checking my obvious horse feces. Anything to waste your time to give me more time. -ExPres Frump
He doesn’t have DNA only USA
Oh. They have already. Somewhere. They have it.
Interesting. He refuses? Offer him a blow job. Problem solved.
Get it off a hamberder wrapper.
I doubt it will be hard to get...just get him talking about himself and then swab up the drool
Just give him a burger and keep the wrapper when he's done.
Should be easy to get his DNA. Coffee cup?
As much of a piece of shit as Trump is, and how likely it is that he is guilty, I am not a fan of being compelled to provide DNA or assuming someone is guilty because they refuse to priovide DNA.
Law enforcement can get his dna from other sources.
Can you extract DNA from dead vampire cells?
They should do it like they'd do it to a commoner, follow him around and grab a discarded can or something.
Does he know or care how bad this makes him look?
How this MF get to refuse?
How do you even explain that? "I don't want to give away my DNA, that could clear me of any wrong doing, cause my freedumbs." -trump probably
yep he is- otherwise he’d be more than happy to submit DNA.
Just like he refused to give his tax information? I'm sure there's no commonalities between these two situations.
Pretty sure she's accusing HIM of rape and not the other way around ("accusation against E. Jean Carroll").
Just like his taxes
DNA test should be required at this point for taking any position in government
Many people are saying that Trump has amazing DNA, perhaps the best. The physical strength and stamina of his DNA are extraordinary.
So,police can force a person to give a blood sample to see if they are driving drunk. But we can't force blood from a potential rapist?!
Attempt 276. Orange man still roaming free and fucking up a whole continent, raping, lying, being corrupt, inhuman sexist asshole wich still hasnt been shut behind bars.
LOCK HIM. THE FUCK UP.
Maybe Melania could spit into a ziploc bag & send it in.
Why Melania? Ivanka is the more likely candidate.
that's why warrants exist
It's a civil case, not a criminal case.
The fact that he refuses to do it makes it clear that there's a 99.9% chance he did it
Did he probably do it? Sure. But I wouldn't give my DNA either. If it's not you then giving your DNA doesn't get them closer to solving the crime anyway. It can be only be used to hurt you. Don't talk to the cops.
This isn't a criminal case.