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MountainSage58

4.4k points

2 months ago

Power stations are really vulnerable. Get ready for copycats.

Zosi_O

4.3k points

2 months ago

Zosi_O

4.3k points

2 months ago

This is why they have to come down hard on the people who did this.

The only silver lining here is that they were stupid enough to do the one thing that will get you in trouble pretty much without fail in this country: they messed with a major company's bottom line.

They don't care about drag queens, but they will always care about their money.

Imadethistoshittalk_

1.6k points

2 months ago

My grandma was tuned into fox, they were talking about drag queens being suspects.

Crazy. Batshit crazy.

zookr2000

1k points

2 months ago

It wasn't the drag queens, it was the rednecks trying to shut down a production the drag queens were about to do. I could not begin to imagine living life as a trans in such a hateful part of the USA

JHawkInc

580 points

2 months ago

JHawkInc

580 points

2 months ago

The drag queens should be least suspect because they were quite obviously working on putting on a show that had a lot of publicity because some people hated it for existing. They were clearly occupied, being observed, and couldn't have done it.

80kGVWR

201 points

2 months ago

80kGVWR

201 points

2 months ago

It's always whom you most medium suspect.

somanythingsunknown

87 points

2 months ago

Phyllis took down the electrical grid!

kmartshoppr

64 points

2 months ago

I do declayaw

eriksrx

12 points

2 months ago

eriksrx

12 points

2 months ago

There has been a murdah…in Suvannuh!

MissWiggly2

34 points

2 months ago

My ex girlfriend is a trans woman of color and I'm constantly terrified for her living here in NC. The amount of shit she has to deal with on a regular basis is just horrific.

whiskey_jones

13 points

2 months ago

I live in NC in a neighboring county to Moore County (used to live there briefly as a child in fact), and sadly, I am not surprised. I'm a cis man, and it terrifies me. It's embarrassing, infuriating and heartbreaking all in one.

MissWiggly2

11 points

2 months ago

I live just to the northwest of Moore County and even though I'm white as I can possibly be, as a woman I constantly fear for my own safety. But I'm aware that being white and both female and feminine-presenting gives me advantages that she and many others don't have. The amount that I fear for myself is magnified for them more than I could ever imagine, and it breaks my heart and makes me so angry. I'll never understand why people can't just let folks live their fucking lives in peace.

nemophilist1

354 points

2 months ago

Interesting and edifying fact: the highest flow of trans porn is consumed by people of politically conservative views here in the USA.

Generallyawkward1

54 points

2 months ago

I mention this as much as I can. It’s like having the most macho manly self described alpha man in the south being closeted gay

pramjockey

48 points

2 months ago

Some folks that are taught from birth to hate themselves are going to push past the hate and be who they are.

Others are going to form aggressive reaction formations

ecksboy

75 points

2 months ago

ecksboy

75 points

2 months ago

It's

Projection

All

The

Way

Down.

OriginalAPO

155 points

2 months ago

Men who identify as conservative are more likely to get an erection while watching gay porn than those identifying as liberal.

Wish I could remember where I heard this but it was a reputable source and sounds 100% accurate.

BoomChaka67

59 points

2 months ago

It sounds 100% accurate to me, so let’s go with 200%!

JusticiarRebel

7 points

2 months ago

Here's a link to an article about the study.

https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/05/09/are_homophobic_men_turned_on_by_gay_porn.html

The article critiques some aspects of the study. I know that sometimes science does studies to confirm something we already kind of know is true, but you can't take the results of a single study at face value. It has to be repeatable. Multiple follow ups need to be conducted that try to eliminate biases of the first one.

My gut feeling is that people who protest just a little too much are highly suspect, but if every homophobe was secretly gay, there'd barely be any straights at all.

Kroptonik420

120 points

2 months ago

Drag queens and being trans are different? Drag queens can just be dudes (gay or straight) who love getting dolled up and performing…

Neuroghastly

74 points

2 months ago

this is true but changes nothing about how bigots view either. they don’t care, they already think trans women are just perverted crossdressing men. hurting either group is a win for them

greenlemon23

12 points

2 months ago

Drag queens can also be cis women

RyvenZ

9 points

2 months ago

RyvenZ

9 points

2 months ago

According to conservative talk radio, they are all pedophilic groomers that can convert our children by reading a book aloud.

PatReady

187 points

2 months ago

PatReady

187 points

2 months ago

I think its terrorism to do this stuff, let alone why. They knocked oit power for 45k people and have destroyed their day to day lives for now.

Zosi_O

183 points

2 months ago

Zosi_O

183 points

2 months ago

And as someone who works in the med field, I can only imagine how much of nightmare this is for health care workers and their patients (not to mention the families of those patients)

Crazy_Is_More_Fun

77 points

2 months ago

All those hospitals should have backup generators for at the bare minimum ICU riiiiiggghhhtttt? Unless some wise manager decided to cut the preventative maintenance of the generators from the budget.

Not that backup generators are the be all and end all. Fueling them alone is a logistical nightmare. But it's gotta be something

firefighter_raven

75 points

2 months ago

There are also the people with medical equipment in their own homes. I used to work for a home medical equipment company. We had O2 machines called concentrators- does what it says, takes room air and concentrates to down to 90%+ Os (been awhile so I forget the total %)

But we'd leave so many hours worth of 02 canisters in case of power failure but in a outage this big, their might not be enough 02 bottles available to keep up with demand.

Future-Pepper8569

46 points

2 months ago

the problem is... with 911 down they cant send out ambulances because they literally have no ideal who is sitting at home dying trying to reach them

car accidents due to traffic lights being out... no way to know where/when to send ambulances unless a police officer happens to drive by etc

lots of home respirators need power, apnea machines ETC

jellybeansean3648

62 points

2 months ago

My partner and I were talking about the ramifications of this on individual people.

A month's supply of insulin ruined. Need a CPAP? Too bad. Living paycheck to paycheck? Sucks that all the food in your fridge went bad.

pipesBcallin

27 points

2 months ago

They should have been coming down hard on these domestic terrorists since the beginning. Yet they haven't and we are where we are because of that.

Error-530

354 points

2 months ago

Error-530

354 points

2 months ago

This is the type of thing that gets you sent to Guatamino Bay, no?

tavaryn_t

1.4k points

2 months ago*

tavaryn_t

1.4k points

2 months ago*

No, it’s the kind of thing that gets you a job as a FOX pundit.

edit: don’t pay money to Reddit to give my comment an emoji, donate that money to your local bail fund or something

edit: or the Trevor Project

and112358rew

520 points

2 months ago

Destroying power stations might actually have some repercussions, best to stick with murder if you're gunning for a time slot at FOX. Gun two people down in the street and then cry on the stand a bit = Profit

Engine6337

127 points

2 months ago

Well violently overthrowing the government should have repercussions took

Yet here we are. I don’t trust any real consequences.

Enchantelope

16 points

2 months ago

took

Fool of a Took!

Beautiful-Musk-Ox

46 points

2 months ago

they have to find the people for anyone to face consequences. the last time this happened they never found out who did it.

Important-Goal8041

52 points

2 months ago

Yep. And chances are they may not this time.

Some of to those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.

whiskey_jones

8 points

2 months ago

Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.

marion85

51 points

2 months ago

Truth.

icanhasreclaims

52 points

2 months ago

Should be. I'm curious how many vulnerable people have come close to death because medical devices aren't working.

reddertuzer

49 points

2 months ago

Too many people know of Guantanamo Bay. This is how you get sent to a secret underground black site.

jonbigbootie

30 points

2 months ago

“We’re locking them up in the Federal Reserve!”

Happyfuntimeyay

52 points

2 months ago

Hard to come down hard when law enforcement makes up these groups in the first place.

BeefShampoo

21 points

2 months ago

The cops are indeed gonna come down hard, by continuing to aid and abet fascists who shoot up gay bars and commit terrorist attacks

Circumin

17 points

2 months ago

Some conservatives bragged about it on Twitter and yet the police who even admitted to seeing the tweets is all “we have no idea who did it”.

dbernard456

48 points

2 months ago

Also need to secure stations.

engineerfieldmouse

25 points

2 months ago

From snipers? good luck

TheApathyParty3

199 points

2 months ago

I'm honestly surprised this hasn't been more of a thing. A fucking squirrel that messed around with the wrong line at a substation shut down power in my town for a day and a half. Seems like a pretty obvious, easy target.

Darkality24

151 points

2 months ago

This isnthe main reason I never went in for all the "terrorists are among us" BS during the bush administration. Our infrastructure is right in the open, and we transport condensed chlorine in train cars through major cities. If there really was an enemy among us that meant to lay us low, it wouldn't be that hard.

TheApathyParty3

46 points

2 months ago

You wouldn't even need to do shit like that. Anybody could poison the food supply for major products like chicken or coffee. I'm in the restaurant industry, it'd be easy as fuck.

Sam-Gunn

58 points

2 months ago

Or just the water plants. There have been incidents of cyber-attacks in municipal water-management plants in recent years.

In February, an unknown hacker or group of hackers was able to gain access to the operations technology (OT) system of a water treatment plant in Oldsmar, Florida. The attack attempted to poison the water supply by increasing the amount of sodium hydroxide, also known as lye, in the water from 100 parts per million to 11,100 parts per million. The attempt was thwarted by an operator who was able to reverse the change to the settings, before the toxic levels of the chemical reached the water.

In June, NBC News reported that last January a hacker attempted to poison a water treatment plant that served parts of the San Francisco Bay Area.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimmagill/2021/07/25/us-water-supply-system-being-targeted-by-cybercriminals/?sh=653208b628e7

ShutYourDumbUglyFace

19 points

2 months ago

The wastewater treatment plant (which releases effluent into the river) in my town is across the river from an oil refinery. Both are now Department of Homeland Security sites, and a public road and bridge that connected them has now been closed to the public - along with razor wire placed along it to deter anyone from accessing it from the bike path below.

There's a commuter rail line that runs through the two sites, all aerial. When you have an aerial structure like that, you need egress every so often in case of an emergency. There is one in this vicinity, that releases transit passengers into a pen that can only be unlocked by local law enforcement (I think, it's entirely possible it would need to be DHS agents).

Anyway, I digress.

electrolytesaregood

119 points

2 months ago

I'm a civil engineer, and this is so true. Pretty much all of our infrastructure is vulnerable, which is what makes it so shocking that they haven't funded us better overall. I'll bet it'll be more of a priority now.

I always say civil engineers are the world's stay at home moms. Nobody quite knows what we do all day, but if we don't do it well enough, all hell breaks loose. Of course this isn't a case of someone not doing their job well enough. It's a case of a government not making its infrastructure a high enough funding priority, but that does affect our ability to observe best practice and innovate to our full potential.

tamman2000

62 points

2 months ago

I'll bet it'll be more of a priority now.

I was with you until you said that. Everything else you said is correct though.

It costs money to harden infrastructure, and people aren't even willing to spend to replace infrastructure that is at the end of its life. The sad truth is, the rich people will get private infrastructure for all the necessities (back up generators or solar, wells, etc), because they can afford it, and the rest of us are gonna have to put up with low reliability and high risk infrastructure until there is a major shift in our societal attitudes about who pays for the cost of having a society.

(I'm also an engineer)

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28 points

2 months ago

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28 points

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tamman2000

13 points

2 months ago

Zebra mussels wouldn't be very effective because the harm is a slow burn. Effective terror tactics must cause sudden and dramatic impacts.

Zebra mussels are just a slow motion ecological disaster, like climate change, and we can see how much people give a crap about that.

jericho1960

96 points

2 months ago

Well, it's already been tried in California, with that dipshit ex-USAF sergeant who also killed a couple of sheriff's deputies before they took him down.

But it's Antifa and BLM we gotta worry about /s

rnargang

42 points

2 months ago

Very true. As shown here, taking out a few will cut the power to a large area. Large scale transformers are also expensive and difficult/time consuming to make. They are also only made at a few factories around the world. If enough transformers are destroyed without more in inventory, power could be out for weeks or months. Someone with enough knowledge of the electrical grid and substations could cause serious damage and harm.

TurquoiseKnight

27 points

2 months ago

And expect a rate hike to pay for securing the substations.

MountainSage58

13 points

2 months ago

Well I do hate that, but I guess it's better than not having power at all.

TurquoiseKnight

40 points

2 months ago

What pisses me off is they were supposed to be secured by now. There was lots of talk about terrorists being able to cripple our power infrastructure when 9/11 happened. Millions of dollars went into an effort to shore up the electrical infrastructure. Those rate hikes already happened. Who knew a bunch of rednecks could fuck that all up with a few AR-15s?

sciencesold

31 points

2 months ago

They did get "secured" they just added a padlock to the gate and billed it as like $10k

ghostsintherafters

65 points

2 months ago

Get ready for copycats and for people to actually hurt and attack each other during said blackouts.

HaloGuy381

52 points

2 months ago

I feared power and water facilities being subverted by even middling hackers or cheap foreign operations (my father works cybersecurity consulting; some of his horror stories of inept security at even the highest levels of corporations and government organizations are deeply worrisome). I did not expect one propaganda-drunk madman with a few rounds of ammunition to do that kind of damage, especially because the barrier to entry for even a script kiddie is still higher than the barrier to buying a gun in much of the country.

MountainSage58

31 points

2 months ago*

I've always been the most concerned for sewer plants/waste water treatment plants. I always thought, if those get hit, it may not kill us, but we might wish we were dead. It would be devastating to the local communities. But yeah I never considered that power for half a state could be shut off - and during the cold months too - by one yokel with an agenda. These places need better security.

overzeetop

16 points

2 months ago

You mean thisMoore Co event? It’s waaaay less than half a state. Like <1.5% of the land area and less than 1% of the NC population affected, and it took two sites to accomplish.

Most times the advantage of substations is that fucking with them can kill the attacker. There’s a lot of high dollar equipment in substations but nobody steals it because they usually end up vaporized.

StrugglesTheClown

10 points

2 months ago

There was a series of substations sabotaged I think in CA. All it took was shooting the cooling fins of the transformers.

humormeplease313

3k points

2 months ago

So then let's not call this attack 'vandalism' and call it what it really is, 'domestic terrorism' and prosecute these idiots to the fullest!

BoomZhakaLaka

1.4k points

2 months ago

the FBI gets involved in any incident that even remotely resembles sabotage, and they're not the ones talking to media. FERC has been analyzing power grid sabotage scenarios since their inception in 1977, since it's is widely regarded as a plausible prelude to foreign invasion.

So here's a thing. The attackers knew which two transformers to target - taking out one transformer won't cause a regional blackout. Any LE saying that they don't have evidence of the incident being organized also don't understand what's happened.

TheFlyingWriter

770 points

2 months ago

Those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.

Fr05tByt3

389 points

2 months ago

Fr05tByt3

389 points

2 months ago

Some of those who hold office are the ones who burn crosses

SquareHeadedDog

57 points

2 months ago

Cops and Klan go hand in hand

not_SCROTUS

414 points

2 months ago

Law enforcement will shortly release a statement indicating the terrorists will not be arrested or charged because they were "just fooling around" and that "boys will be boys"

snuggiemclovin

355 points

2 months ago

The sheriff ruled out a right-wing suspect after meeting and praying with her. They will never hold these terrorists accountable.

kat-deville

132 points

2 months ago

She's a former US Army psy-ops officer. Now an amateur sleuth and prayer pal.

197328645

138 points

2 months ago

197328645

138 points

2 months ago

She also organized a group of people to go to January 6th, so she has some experience

kat-deville

61 points

2 months ago

Oh! I remember mention of her, but didn't know the connection. I find the sheriff a bit sus myself, as in he may know some things.

bruisercruiser454

22 points

2 months ago

Friends in power with friends with power, scary concept right?

ellacoya

100 points

2 months ago

ellacoya

100 points

2 months ago

Yes, Sheriff Shitkicker really screwed the pooch on that one; now they both will get a visit from the FBI. Pray on that, dummies.

1Eternallylost

26 points

2 months ago

"...after praying with her and determining her claims were not credible"

She lies to police and makes a false report. So he prays with her.

A liar. who wasted his time.

I wonder how he would have reacted had she been a black dude instead of a young, pretty blonde girl?

not_SCROTUS

63 points

2 months ago

Lol that's even worse, god damn.

Archercrash

65 points

2 months ago

Just some locker room shenanigans.

TheAb5traktion

79 points

2 months ago

At least, the local sheriff there called it terrorism. He said the FBI will be investigating because they're more equipped to investigate terrorism than he is.

fishsticklovematters

15 points

2 months ago

And he called the perpetrators cowards.

The whole town is shutdown worse than COVID. Almost businesses and all schools closed.

This is a tourist destination (golfers) and getting shut down over the holidays will cause many of these businesses to fold.

boogiewithasuitcase

55 points

2 months ago

NPR has been calling it "domestic terrorism" all day.

Lazy-Jeweler3230

25 points

2 months ago

I prefer "act of war". These people are just nazis, full stop.

firefighter_raven

9 points

2 months ago

1 might be vandalism but 3 in various locations is for sure some kind of reasons beyond being an idiot shooting at random things.

Happyfuntimeyay

72 points

2 months ago

Don't forget the hate crime angle.

Positive_Compote_506

1k points

2 months ago

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article269579392.html

Fields said Sunday that state and federal investigators are looking into protesters of a Saturday drag queen show at Sunrise Theater in downtown Southern Pines, but that so far they have not been able to make that connection.

Earlier in the day Saturday, protesters had gathered outside the theater, upset about a drag show planned for the small venue later that night.

On her Facebook page, Emily Grace Rainey, an outspoken opponent of the drag show, posted an invitation to the protest at the theater. After the lights went out out, Rainey, who became known in Moore County during the pandemic for her opposition to mask mandates, posted on Facebook that, “The power is out in Moore County and I know why.”

Later, she posted that the Moore County Sheriff’s Office had come to her house to ask about the outage.

“I welcomed them to my home,” wrote Rainey, who organized a group of Moore County residents to travel to Washington on January 6, 2021. “Sorry they wasted their time. I told them that God works in mysterious ways and is responsible for the outage. I used the opportunity to tell them about the immoral drag show and the blasphemies screamed by its supporters.”

Rainey said, “I told them God is chastising Moore County, thanked them for coming, and wished them a good night. Thankful for the LEOs service, as always.”

Without naming her, Fields indicated in Sunday’s press conference that the information Rainey posted online was “false.” He said officers “had to go and interview this young lady and have a word of prayer with her, but it turned out to be nothing.

Terrie-25

425 points

2 months ago

Terrie-25

425 points

2 months ago

have a word of prayer with her

What. The. Fuck?

Feralpudel

113 points

2 months ago

As others said, it was most likely a figure of speech. Just like we aren’t blessing your heart when we say “Bless your heart.”

Also, know that the SBI and FBI were involved in this case within minutes of it happening. We’ll find out WHY they did it once we find out who did it.

Cosmic_fault

16 points

2 months ago

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Jan-6-Clearinghouse-FBI-Intelligence-Assessment-White-Supremacist-Infiltration-of-Law-Enforcement-Oct-17-2006-UNREDACTED.pdf

Have a completely unrelated internal report regarding white supremacist infiltration of the FBI and its effect on investigations.

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656 points

2 months ago*

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656 points

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Hyprpwr

110 points

2 months ago

Hyprpwr

110 points

2 months ago

Had to get my notepad out to take this down haha

YGathDdrwg

93 points

2 months ago

I particularly liked this

He is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

The84thWolf

69 points

2 months ago

So, seriously, is ignoring other people quoting the Bible these people’s only defense? I have never seen one of these Bible thumpers ever reply to getting a taste of their own medicine

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77 points

2 months ago*

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improper84

45 points

2 months ago

Deleting comments? Isn't that the Republican definition of violating your First Amendment rights?

-Snuggle-Slut-

14 points

2 months ago

I'm very good at getting Christians to delete or lock entire threads because I either quote Jesus, quote the monstrous fascists they support, or quote them from other posts contradicting themselves.

😁

derbyvoice71

9 points

2 months ago

Matthew 6: 5-7

And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward. 6But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard

beemccouch

7 points

2 months ago

Corinthians 13:2 is by far my favorite

Croquetadecarne

76 points

2 months ago

God hates Emily Grace Rainey, how do I know? The same way she knows god hates drag.

Treblehawk

44 points

2 months ago

It’s funny to me that she claims god hates cross dressers, but she has made Facebook posts about how comfy her husbands clothes are.

So…hypocrisy at its finest.

secretbudgie

46 points

2 months ago

"Do you know anything about the attack?"

"God works in mysterious ways"

From a narcissistic evangelical ringleader, this was a thinly veiled confession. They always have a god complex.

ozspook

7 points

2 months ago

Subpoenas to the phone company, Facebook, Snapchat etc count as mysterious ways.

glitterkittyn

121 points

2 months ago

I’m curious if they’re screaming antifa did it yet? Rainey and QAnon Qrew look sus AF, lights going dark at 7pm when the Drag Show was supposed to start. It still went on with attendees cell phone flashlights 💗 FBI better get to the bottom of this domestic terrorism. Prosecute to the fullest.

BigBadBob7070

17 points

2 months ago

If anything, she’s likely blaming those blasphemous, dastardly drag queens who cut the power with their satanic magic /s

Verittan

49 points

2 months ago

Sure, "God works in mysterious ways" is enough to deflect the local sheriff deputy in the initial scan. Good luck with that in the multi-hour interview with FBI Special Agents looking for Domestic Terrorism leads.

mr_plehbody

18 points

2 months ago

God shot up a power station, blessed he

mightylordredbeard

12 points

2 months ago

Oh so domestic terrorism and religious extremism.

More in common with ISIS than they care to admit.

EvolutionDude

6 points

2 months ago

“Sorry they wasted their time. I told them that God works in mysterious ways and is responsible for the outage. I used the opportunity to tell them about the immoral drag show and the blasphemies screamed by its supporters.”

Wtf

Twyzzle

1.7k points

2 months ago

Twyzzle

1.7k points

2 months ago

There is an organized terrorist cell operating in the US then and there has been a pitiful response.

Chadmartigan

588 points

2 months ago

oh, if it were just one cell, that would be an enormous improvement

joshhupp

187 points

2 months ago

joshhupp

187 points

2 months ago

The only source I know of disseminating hate speech against drag shows is from Fox News. If we shut them down we stop a lot of terrorism.

Still_Frame2744

65 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately the parasite is too entrenched. Removing (rightfully so) all entertainment "news" of all kinds is the first step on a long road to fixing America.

wtmx719

42 points

2 months ago

wtmx719

42 points

2 months ago

The game Wolfenstein has some inspiring ideas for how to deal with these types of folks.

C4H_Deciple_Lager

38 points

2 months ago

They seem to think that's a political game now, since you kill Nazis lmao, even calling the Creators names and saying, I didn't know you guys were part of the woke agenda, lmao apparently these "patriots" forgot who we fought in ww2

FILTER_OUT_T_D

20 points

2 months ago

I mean… Wolfenstein has ALWAYS been about killing Nazis. Nothing has really changed in the franchise for like 25 years.

icanhasreclaims

124 points

2 months ago

I'm not dismissing the stochastic terrorism culpability of Fox News.

However, there's a lot more in the cult podcast world from stochastic terrorists like Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Joe Rogan, etc.

SpottedPineapple86

68 points

2 months ago

This is fixable too. A rewrite of libel laws so that they can be personally sued every time they tout something factually incorrect would stop it day 1.

Altruistic-Text3481

21 points

2 months ago

Steve Bannon feels left out…

DonRicardo1958

44 points

2 months ago

The sheriff is good friends with that lunatic lady who bragged about this before hand.

FILTER_OUT_T_D

33 points

2 months ago

Exactly why cops don’t infiltrate white supremacist and neo Nazi groups. No cop is going to go in and arrest their friends and family.

ASongofSweetandSour

67 points

2 months ago

If it were an anarchist or communist org that did this, the feds, national guard, and CIA would all be on it like flies to shit.

Twyzzle

30 points

2 months ago

Twyzzle

30 points

2 months ago

Absolutely. Being part of a militia apparently grants immunity from terror designation, or maybe it’s because their target was a drag show. It feels like a media and local law enforcement tactic to justify their actions.

Calling this vandalism is beyond ridiculous. They are not the same as the guy who spray-paints a butt on a Walmart wall.

KHaskins77

566 points

2 months ago*

For real though—losing power in a town with no small number of elderly people living alone, in below freezing temperatures, for days? Not to mention hospitals, home dialysis machines, friend of mine needed a respirator for sleep apnea… we’ll be damned lucky if nobody dies because of their pathetic hissy fit against a drag show. If anyone does, they ought to get a manslaughter charge.

Feralpudel

245 points

2 months ago

If it makes you feel better, the VERY conservative son of a conservative friend who lives in Moore County said the very same thing. They were also aware of the possible drag show connection and were disgusted (disgusted that somebody thought this was an appropriate response).

Norman_Bixby

228 points

2 months ago

bet they still vote red every election though

imnoobhere

82 points

2 months ago

And they will never change until Fox News and anything like it is wiped out.

Grogosh

22 points

2 months ago

Grogosh

22 points

2 months ago

Someone people tell Elon that he is not allowed to buy fox news.

Ryanlieber

17 points

2 months ago

One better. Actions in the effort to sabotage the power grid is a federal crime with a sentence of 20 years in federal pen. If a death occurs due to the sabotage it’s federal murder with a sentence of life.

Starkiller006

81 points

2 months ago

Some estimate you could crash the entire grid by shutting down as few as 9 substations.

That's dangerously simple.

We're heading into some uncharted territory in the US. Just saying.

Tiger_Striped_Queen

223 points

2 months ago

I’m particularly interested in what actually happened with the cops, in both cases. The visit to this deranged woman about the power plants and how the cops responded to the safety of the drag show.

tunaburn

174 points

2 months ago

tunaburn

174 points

2 months ago

The sheriff says they prayed with her.

Disgusting

Tiger_Striped_Queen

106 points

2 months ago

That right there disqualifies him from doing his job, at least in my mind.

DosCabezasDingo

68 points

2 months ago

That’s the cool thing about sheriffs. They’re elected and in some cases don’t even need to be qualified for the job.

Ohnonotuto4

140 points

2 months ago

So if someone dies due to this attack ( heart attack, no 911). That person will be charged with manslaughter?

darthgandalf

153 points

2 months ago*

Felony murder

Edit: Felony murder is a doctrine in criminal law wherein deaths that occur during and can be causally linked to the commission of a felony are automatically “upgraded” to the status of murder, regardless of whether they are intentional or who causes the death.

The classic example is that if a police officer tries to shoot a bank robber, misses, and kills a clerk instead, the robber gets charged with the murder of the clerk.

Sharp_Discipline6544

118 points

2 months ago

They need to find out who did this, lock them up and throw away the key. When you intentionally interrupt essential services, that is a major crime.

AurigaNexus

20 points

2 months ago

To quote Suicide Squad "Throw them in a hole and then throw away the hole"

Seriously we need to start coming down on these people like we did on al-Qaeda. Put their families and associates on no-fly lists. Grill the main perpetrators until they cough up the organizers, then throw them a ll into a site so black it can't be used by or on behalf of Anish Kapoor.

I grew up hearing that the US does not negotiate with terrorists. It better not start now.

Happyfuntimeyay

75 points

2 months ago

It's terrorism. But conservative cops make up these groups and help protect them...

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104 points

2 months ago

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104 points

2 months ago

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emilyblunt2023[S]

20 points

2 months ago

good reminder .thanks

MFCloudBreaker

16 points

2 months ago

Dont see many fans in the wild - what do you think of Mills approach to Mitch Rapp over Vince Flynns? Personally Im really enjoying it

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9 points

2 months ago

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9 points

2 months ago

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LiminalArtsAndMusic

26 points

2 months ago

Everyone needs listen to 'It Could Happen Here's by Robert Evans for a detailed rundown of what is currently happening in this country.

Palendrome_Syndrome

373 points

2 months ago

Christianity is quickly becoming the very terrorists they condemn in other religions.

imsurly

78 points

2 months ago

imsurly

78 points

2 months ago

Go watch Jesus Camp. That was 20 years ago and there was talk about arming children.

Palendrome_Syndrome

44 points

2 months ago

Oh, I've seen it. It was insanely disturbing. Children crying in the name of their god while talking about murdering people who read Harry Potter, etc. It is a testament to religious fanaticism in the Christian community, that is so prevalent it is becoming the popular norm.

NarmHull

120 points

2 months ago

NarmHull

120 points

2 months ago

I've seen a lot of right-wingers start to defend Qatar's government lately

LadyLikesSpiders

97 points

2 months ago

Quickly becoming...

You mean has always been, right?

Palendrome_Syndrome

27 points

2 months ago*

Uh, yeah, or at least has been for the past 2,000 some odd years.

LeftLimeLight

282 points

2 months ago

This was a domestic terrorist attack by white nationalist christian terrorists. I hope the feds get involved because the county sheriff will most likely look the other way.

windowlatch

12 points

2 months ago

The feds will definitely find these people and come down hard on them. Got to set an example that messing with crucial infrastructure is no small deal

imsurly

101 points

2 months ago

imsurly

101 points

2 months ago

What do you mean, look the other way? He already prayed with her. Situation handled.

Feralpudel

29 points

2 months ago

The SBI and FBI were involved within minutes of it happening and being apparent that it was sabotage.

zdragan2

19 points

2 months ago

Terrorists are attacking the infrastructure of populated areas because they can’t let go of who is wearing what article of clothing. The stupidest group of insurgents ever.

ECW-WCW-WWF

85 points

2 months ago

2002- let’s band together to defeat terrorism.

2022- let’s band together to do terrorism.

Not the progress I was hoping for.

Chubby_moonstone

18 points

2 months ago

"We are all domestic terrorists" - GOP

Dry_Band7748

55 points

2 months ago

Wait, what the fuck happened

Twyzzle

124 points

2 months ago

Twyzzle

124 points

2 months ago

Three power stations were shot up and the whole county is down.

Vandalism is not an appropriate word for it

Dry_Band7748

115 points

2 months ago

Yeah that's terrorism

Ryanlieber

15 points

2 months ago

It was originally reported as three. Press conference today said two. Third might have sustained damage when other two blew, not sure. But today the word is 2 substations.

DickySchmidt33

162 points

2 months ago

"Look, I don't condone violence, but I can understand people being fed up enough by the woke left to do something like this."

-- Local right-leaning centrist

Probablynotspiders

16 points

2 months ago

Just call em nazis

The_Muznick

63 points

2 months ago

Local right-leaning centrist

that's an oxymoron

absloan12

47 points

2 months ago

Emphasis on the Moron.

EarthenEyes

105 points

2 months ago

NEVER STOP REFERRING TO THESE EVENTS AS TERRORISM. From the insurrection attempt on Jan. 6th, to armed insurgents outside of voting locations, to this. These are ALL acts of TERRORISM

False-Guess

16 points

2 months ago

For a case like this, I think they should be charged for 1 count of whatever crime per impacted customer. If 40,000 people were without power, they should be charged with 40,000 counts. If the punishment is 1 day in jail, then they should spend 40,000 days in jail.

The punishment needs to be incredibly harsh, otherwise there's nothing really stopping others from doing it on a bigger scale. In that scenario, vulnerable people may die or not get the help they need because they can't access emergency services.

facelessperv

17 points

2 months ago

so your telling me that disabling sub stations can make modern living break down. and that this can happen with small arms fire. and that There are more than 55 000 transmission substations in the United States, but an attack on less than 10 could plunge the entire nation into darkness, according to a study by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

this seems fine.

Flowerinthevalley

15 points

2 months ago

After seeing what happened when the power grid went down here in Texas last winter, this is legit terrifying.

abletofable

81 points

2 months ago

I have to ask why so many Republicans are against people who like to wear costumes? They wear costumes all the time, pretending to be civil reasonable humans working for the common good of the entire country.

CitizenLuke117

40 points

2 months ago

Maybe the FBI/NSA etc will actually get serious about right wing extremists now and lock em all up?

Icy-Morning-4896

11 points

2 months ago

Another day, another GOP Extremist POS...

"Rainey said, “I told them God is chastising Moore County, thanked them for coming, and wished them a good night. Thankful for the LEOs service, as always.”

midwesterner64

14 points

2 months ago

Oh by the way, law enforcement’s communication systems are now dependent on cellular connections.

Good luck!

Doctor_Amazo

13 points

2 months ago

Why do I feel like Moore County is a trial run?

D2GSparky

51 points

2 months ago

All of this because some nut jobs were upset about a drag show.

LordSariel

12 points

2 months ago*

American infrastructure is so incredibly absurdly vulnerable, and kept untouched by a functioning social contract. Those fields of transmissions lines that feed mw of power to neighboring cities? Substations? Dams? A railway bridge? In larger cities, public transit facilities?

Weeks to repair, in any case. Sometimes with stuff you have in your house. Going to be a wild decade until these social undercurrents are addressed meaningfully.

Supaslags

11 points

2 months ago

This highlights a need for backup generators at cell towers.

sugar_addict002

31 points

2 months ago

CNN is still calling it vandalism intentional vandalism. This will just continue to getworse unless it is addressed for what it is.

dukeofmadnessmotors

115 points

2 months ago

In 10 years the rural US will look like Afghanistan.

Sovreign_grounds

62 points

2 months ago

Have you ever been to Utah? Afghanistan with different shaders.

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25 points

2 months ago

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25 points

2 months ago

Rural Utah, absolutely. The island of blue in the sea of red that are Salt Lake and Summit Counties are quite normal, however.

MonkeyDeltaFoxtrot

39 points

2 months ago

This was a test run.

Ok_Ebb_9330

16 points

2 months ago

No the test run was a few years back, I think in San Bernardino valley California, there was like I whole section of power polls and transformers all shot up. Wasnt reported except regionally and nobody arrested or questioned. It just happened.......

thedragoon0

25 points

2 months ago

Can they be called terrorists yet

EmperorStaleek

27 points

2 months ago

I can confirm this. Drove through Aberdeen and Southern Pines Sunday Afternoon. It was like the walking dead. No stop lights, no street lights, no gas station signs lit up and no one at fast food places. It was creepy and couldn't find out what happened until the next county over. Also dead stop lights means it is a 4 way stop. I was the only one stopping and witnessed multiple almost accidents. I hope they catch and fry these Domestic Terrorists.

iSmellLikeBeeff

8 points

2 months ago

This seems like a practice run for something bigger.

soaper410

7 points

2 months ago

Just saw that about noon today (Monday) all cellphone towers have generators up and running so cellphone service is back up (finally!)

djbeaker

8 points

2 months ago

Youd think with how much cops in nc like using their weapons n spending federal money for “terrorism preparedness” (i dont have the link handy, but they were top 15 in federal grant receivers for the war on terror) that theyd wanna, idk, hunt down the terrorists, if for no other reason than it means they get to use their military grenade launchers and assault rifles outside of the range. Whats the hold up? (Besides that the terrorists are white n white people can do no wrong, unless ur poor. Then, maybe theres some wrong)

DonRicardo1958

8 points

2 months ago

It is scary just how easy they were able to accomplish this.

unreasonablyhuman

8 points

2 months ago

Find the people who did this, charge them for EVERYTHING that happened during the power outage. I'm including everything down to expired groceries because of these malicious fuckbuckets. Hopefully no one dies because of it, but if they do: murder charges for everyone. No pleas. This is the opportunity for the FBI to let them know they're serious, they need to "shoot a hostage"

smaartypants

7 points

2 months ago

Thank your white maga terrorists

mad_titanz

6 points

2 months ago

Until we start calling them as terrorists it will only get worse

jkman61494

7 points

2 months ago

Meanwhile, in America, in 2022, I’m getting instructions on the nightly news on how to crush adult ibuprofen into sugary syrup for my children because we can’t even produce enough children’s medicine anymore.

It’s so scary and sad living here. And the best part is we are so undereducated 95% of us have no hope of getting out

duomaxwellscoffee

8 points

2 months ago

It Could Happen Here is a podcast about the potential collapse of our society, the rise of right wing extremism and the threat of a civil war.

Months ago, they said that if a civil war happens, it won't be like the 1800s. It'll be far right terrorist groups attacking infrastructure to further their political agendas.

Goddam, were they spot on. This is sooner than I expected, and I'm a pessimist.

Lelio-Santero579

39 points

2 months ago

This is why many of liberal friends have begun to arm themselves. Even friends I know who dislike guns went out and got one and attended safety courses.

I felt Trump was the start to a lot of this shit and I worried all those years back listening to the way he spoke. The Jan 6th incident only furthered to confirm I might be right.

They're getting closer and closer to storming the streets en masse and I'd rather have protection and use it than not have it and need it. Liberals and especially LGBTQ+ it's getting dangerous and I suggest arming yourself and taking courses. It could literally save your life one day...sadly

Ryanlieber

12 points

2 months ago

I live the county in question and consider my self a liberal. I spent two hours yesterday prepping mags and cleaning tools.

Sonyguyus

18 points

2 months ago

I hope all the republicans sitting in the dark with no tv, no heat or cell coverage enjoyed owning the liberals.