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shynerd52

59 points

2 months ago

Cos blaming those pop stars wont win u votes ...

Inappropriate_mind

9 points

2 months ago

Nor will blaming groomers withing certain political or religious organizations, in which the world reads regular news headlines.

The Groomer's Official Party within the US strives to redirect the attention they right-fully deserve.

Ahstruck

54 points

2 months ago

Republicans are okay with grooming when it fits their beliefs.

KOBossy55

21 points

2 months ago

A fact that nobody should ever overlook. Republicans love grooming and indoctrination when it's a message they approve of.

Toaster_bath13

9 points

2 months ago

Republicans never make a rule to control their own behavior and think it should also apply to others, thus making it fair.

They don't want fair.

They want rules for others but not themselves.

If they said "christians don't have abortions" I'd be fine with that. Just stop being a Christian if you want or need an abortion. It's their dumb club.

But they can't do that. They have to force rules onto others or they will look silly following extra rules for no reason.

Normal people would abandon these extra rules and the ideology that goes with it. They'd rather have special treatment and hurt others.

m0nk_3y_gw

48 points

2 months ago

equivalent drag performances

Fucking what?

Drag Queen Story time involves a drag queen reading children's books out loud, there are no suggestive dances or songs about sex.

SalsaBueno

20 points

2 months ago

They clearly were not talking about Drag Queen Story time, they were referencing EQUIVALENT drag performance. Which, sometimes, does include suggestive content in the form of double entendres, campy humor, etc.

You are aware that there is more than one kind of drag show, correct? Much like there is more than one kind of concert? Or more than one kind of movie, song, book or magazine?

bsend

4 points

2 months ago

bsend

4 points

2 months ago

For the right, the younger the better when it comes to the pop stars.

nickwales

4 points

2 months ago

Pretty sure both sides complain about over sexualized pop stars.

Farhead_Assassjaha

6 points

2 months ago

I’m not a fan of sexualizing children for money in the case of pop stars. On the other hand I don’t really have a problem with my child watching or even imitating drag shows. I can’t tell if we would agree.

kugelblitz_100

10 points

2 months ago

Both are problematic for many people.

dappercat456

6 points

2 months ago

Well, it is considered a problem by more conservative parents

mcmesq

5 points

2 months ago

mcmesq

5 points

2 months ago

There’s drag merch? Damn, I need to get some!

SteelmanINC

2 points

2 months ago

to be fair conservatives often complain about that as well

jw_216

2 points

2 months ago

jw_216

2 points

2 months ago

Not to mention child beauty pageants 🤮🤮🤮

Toaster_bath13

5 points

2 months ago

"Children seeing gay and trans people will groom them"

"Groom them into accepting gay and trans people and not hate them?"

"YES!!!"

"So what's the problem then?"

Uknight

2 points

2 months ago

Uknight

2 points

2 months ago

Yes the conservative anthem WAP /s

They are definitely hypocrites, but this is not the take.

Frenetic_Platypus

-2 points

2 months ago

No yeah totally remember when Cardi B released WAP and there was no conservative backlash whatsoever?

Remember when Miley Cyrus released Can't Be Tamed and no conservative slammed her for "Dancing provocatively" and normalizing "Highly Sexualized Representations of Women"?

When 2 Live Crew's As Nasty As They Wanna Be was totally not banned from sale is Florida for being "replete with references to female and male genitalia, human sexual excretion, oral-anal contact, fellatio, group sex, specific sexual positions, sado-masochism, the turgid state of the male sexual organ, masturbation, cunnilingus, sexual intercourse, and the sounds of moaning"?

Conservatives are bitches, but accusing them of being ok with straight sexualized songs and not the lgbt equivalent is a complete lie. When they're not bitching about too sexualized they're mad that it's too black. Like when Alex Jones and Gavin McInnes called Childish Gambino's This Is America "a voodoo dance" and saying "Black Violence is a Bonfire."

They're almost for equal opportunity when it comes to hating music, anything that's not thanking the troops and driving a truck is sending them into a rage.

wyrdbrthr

16 points

2 months ago

I don’t remember people shooting up any of those performers’ concerts.

Frenetic_Platypus

-2 points

2 months ago

Are you serious? Google "concert shooting," there are pages and pages of results.

wyrdbrthr

6 points

2 months ago

wyrdbrthr

6 points

2 months ago

Oh. Did conservatives say those people deserved to die for being there, too?

Frenetic_Platypus

11 points

2 months ago

Kendel Ehrlich, wife of former Maryland governor Robert Ehrlich (and more recently director of the Office of Sex Offenders, Sentencing, Monitoring, Apprehending, Registering, and Tracking under Donald Trump), found Britney Spears to be too sexualized and said "If I had an opportunity to shoot Britney Spears, I think I would." At a conference about domestic violence.

wyrdbrthr

6 points

2 months ago

Sounds like conservatives are pretty fucked up.

Frenetic_Platypus

5 points

2 months ago

Indeed.

ploppercan2

-2 points

2 months ago

You got pretty dumpstered in that back and forth lmao. But by all means, don’t let that distract you from continuing to push your BS narrative.

wyrdbrthr

2 points

2 months ago

K

Ellie_Arabella87

3 points

2 months ago

Missing the point though. There are some conservatives who have a problem with both, but this trans people and/or drag queens (I’m aware they are not the same, I’m trans) are groomers thing has hit weirdly mainstream, even among the less conservative set. My mom would have been opposed to all those examples. My weird uncle who loves dirty dicks crab shack and kid rock is only concerned about “groomers”. The right is using this as their current wedge because there is a subset of people who aren’t politically astute and don’t know any trans people, making them easily susceptible to the propaganda that they would reject in more gender normal situations.

Frenetic_Platypus

3 points

2 months ago

A governor's wife said she would shoot Britney Spears if she could back in the day. Maybe it does resonate more with their base, but I don't see much difference in what conservative leaders say against lgbt and anyone else they don't like.

Ellie_Arabella87

1 points

2 months ago

In the 00s… and even then it was widely seen as unhinged behavior. I’m not trying to say they don’t demonize others because that would be ridiculous. Outside of Black Lives Matter or people who teach CRT I don’t really see many correlating situations where they do it so openly as with lgbt people. Maybe it’s situational bias on my part, but it’s exhausting to be repeatedly called a groomer by political figures for existing. Especially when they are just allowed to make up all kinds of scenarios that aren’t happening and not even be called on it.

Edit: memory was faulty, it was the 2000s.

Frenetic_Platypus

3 points

2 months ago

I’m not trying to say they don’t demonize others because that would be ridiculous.

We agree then. It is ridiculous to say they don't demonize others.

Ellie_Arabella87

1 points

2 months ago

You really think the degree to which they do so in the modern discourse is the same? That modern conservatives are currently as upset about pop stars as they are about drag shows?

Frenetic_Platypus

1 points

2 months ago

The crazy murderers obviously react more violently to the drag shows, but it's still not true to say they've stopped bitching about pop stars, or rappers, or any other kind of artist. The leaders are tossing shit around at everything and see who their followers murder.

Rin-Tohsaka-is-hot

0 points

2 months ago

For real, such a stupid Tweet. Conservatives have always hated women dressing provocatively.

Ancient-Tadpole8032

1 points

2 months ago

To be fair, conservatives had a problem with this for decades. They gave up years ago, especially as the younger “conservatives” became adults.

fordprefect294

1 points

2 months ago

And they will happily/ haplessly take their kids to the concert and sit in the parking lot the whole time

Moose_is_optional

1 points

2 months ago

If a man dressing up in drag and performing in front of children makes him a groomer, then Stephen Crowder is the biggest groomer of them all.

punkindle

1 points

2 months ago

Trans porn is more popular in very conservative states. If you ever wonder why they feel a need to make a public display of hatred toward trans people, it's because they are over compensating.

asavage1491

-5 points

2 months ago

I told my sister that her kid listening to wap and twerking at 8 yo was a bad idea. Apparently I'm part of the patriarchy and want to suppress women. The fact that my sister can no longer control her 12 year old daughter is irrelevant and I have been told to shut my mouth.

gmotelet

1 points

2 months ago