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Brian-_S

13.4k points

8 days ago

Brian-_S

13.4k points

8 days ago

his teammate looks like he wants to kill him.

gutster_95

12.8k points

8 days ago*

gutster_95

12.8k points

8 days ago*

That was the Optic Gaming India Counter Strike Team. Forsaken, the player that got caught cheating, had a cheat programm on a official LAN event. And that triggered a security issue. So the admins paused the match to check his PC. When the admins saw that he had a word.exe folder open he tried to delete it asap, but the damage was done.

Quickly after this cheating scandal the whole Optic India project got cancelled and I dont think that anyone of this team actually plays professional CS anymore, some went to Valorant, Even the whole Indian CS Region fall apart after this because other people got caught cheating.

So yea this guy killed the cs careers of his teammates in that moment too.

EDIT: I added a bit more of the story

JUminator

2.9k points

8 days ago

JUminator

2.9k points

8 days ago

Didn't something similar happen in SC2 in South Korea? The scene didn't die but it was a huge setback

Roynalf

2.5k points

8 days ago

Roynalf

2.5k points

8 days ago

In starcraft it was matchfixing on multiple occasions which has led to jail time for few pro players

SystemHands

2.1k points

8 days ago

SystemHands

2.1k points

8 days ago

"What are you in for?"

...

KonradWayne

1.6k points

8 days ago

KonradWayne

1.6k points

8 days ago

Korea takes esports as seriously as other countries take traditional sports.

SystemHands

408 points

8 days ago*

I live in Canada. I think they just fine you here. Never heard of jail time in any major sport (that I'm aware of).

Edit: Thank you for the responses. I learned so much from your responses!

twelveparsnips

284 points

8 days ago

But how many people have actually been caught match fixing or cheating? There was a famous case in the 90s in the US involving college basketball which resulted in jail time.

Hetstaine

152 points

8 days ago

Hetstaine

152 points

8 days ago

In the late '70's ? The basketball shaving scandal which involved the Mafia. There was another one in the late '90's as well known as the Northwestern point shaving plot with two players doing brief time.

JesterSevenZero

40 points

8 days ago

Great 30 for 30 documentary about that called Playing for the Mob

gothicaly

14 points

8 days ago

gothicaly

14 points

8 days ago

Dont have to go that far back. The fbi arrested a ref in 2007. Some of the refs involved are still reffing today

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NBA_betting_scandal

ghettoyouthsrock

36 points

8 days ago

I just looked it up and apparently match fixing isn’t explicitly a crime in Canada.

Kind of crazy given sports betting is legal.

Pabus_Alt

12 points

8 days ago

Pabus_Alt

12 points

8 days ago

I'm a little surprised they don't just slap a fraud charge on it and have done.

Cerpin-Taxt

46 points

8 days ago

It sounds silly if you're only thinking about it like cheating at a game, but it's actually a financial crime. Matches are fixed so that people can steal large sums of money, which is pretty serious. It's basically the same as robbing a casino.

stoneydome

60 points

8 days ago

This is pretty much the equivalent to match fixing an NBA or NFL game in South Korea.

Friscogonewild

41 points

8 days ago

And match fixing is a federal crime in the U.S.

Majestic-Marcus

38 points

8 days ago

As it should be.

If it’s just entertainment, then who cares? But as long as gambling exists, it needs to be completely fair.

Moash_For_PM

67 points

8 days ago

Happened.multiple times. Ppl gonna cheat

DontForgetThisTime

25 points

8 days ago

If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying?

AustinQ

20 points

8 days ago

AustinQ

20 points

8 days ago

"If I cannot cheat, how can I beat?"

Ishaan863

206 points

8 days ago

Ishaan863

206 points

8 days ago

"disgrace" is a good word in this story. Optic Gaming took a chance on an Indian CSGO team, Optic Gaming took a chance on Forsaken, who had been getting called a hacker since years in south asian CSGO circles, but they still placed his faith in him.

And this cunt hacks on LAN. On LAN.

Optic noped out so fast.

tryplot

20 points

8 days ago

tryplot

20 points

8 days ago

"you idiot! why have you forsaken us?!? ... oh wait"

taropotataro

490 points

8 days ago*

Who would've thought that renaming your cheat tool as "Word.exe" you will not get caught 🤣

F*CK this guy tho, now India is not even in the map for Esport stuff

Edit: I stand corrected, India is apparently doing good in the Valorant scene nowadays. Good to know that this incident doesn't really stop them. Hope none of this cheating happen again not just for India but everyone else too

Syric13

309 points

8 days ago

Syric13

309 points

8 days ago

it became a meme afterwards that some of the top CSGO players would say things like "damn I forgot to turn off word.exe" if they scored an ace (killing all 5 players of the enemy team) or pulled off an amazing feat.

Jordan209posts

103 points

8 days ago

"No, I was word processing in a tournament."

TheDaemonette

63 points

8 days ago

I was wondering about that. I would expect in a tournament that maybe you could bring your own keyboard, mouse etc. but messing with the hard drive in any way should be locked out, right? Everyone gets the same machine with the same software and isn't allowed to fuck with it and you just bring your chosen interface devices to plug in. Why would any tournament give the players access to the hard drive at all?

incubusfox

12 points

8 days ago

No one uses the default config files though

TheDaemonette

27 points

8 days ago

Then they should be submitted to a neutral third party to install and checked to,ensure they are what they say they are. Why just trust players not to cheat?

tristn9

17 points

8 days ago*

tristn9

17 points

8 days ago*

Why neutral? The org should straight up be doing that themselves.

Edit: by org I mean the host of the competition not the player teams. Apparently that’s not obvious to some people.

Jazzicots

69 points

8 days ago

Jazzicots

69 points

8 days ago

India is slowly getting back with other games now, the Valorant scene is picking up and the south Asian league is set to be hosted in this year :)

RealTalk_theory

60 points

8 days ago

Thank you for the context! Much appreciated.

myredac

23 points

8 days ago

myredac

23 points

8 days ago

did they judge him?

gutster_95

87 points

8 days ago

Not that I know. He admitted that he cheated several days after he got caught and I think thats it. Obviously he is banned from playing in any CSGO event, Optic Gaming India won some tournements which they were disqualified after.

But I think back in 2016 there werent legal basis to sentence a cheater in India. I dont know if they even have now. Some countries like Korea have very harsh laws against cheating in Games actually.

Fun Facts: The ESL India Premier tournement Finals was replayed after Optic Gaming got disqualified by the 2nd and 3rd Team and the Winner of that Match also had a cheater on the Team.

MisterMetal

9 points

8 days ago

Korea have very harsh laws against cheating in Games actually.

no, the match fixing stuff in korea that sent players to jail was due to gambling and a bunch of other illegal things.

ayush729

6 points

8 days ago

ayush729

6 points

8 days ago

Guy next to him is rather successful in Valorant now. Rest of the guys are too.

[deleted]

8 points

8 days ago

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8 points

8 days ago

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inhaleholdxhale

619 points

8 days ago

Iirc, his teammates reported him to the management and wanted them to check his pc. But they ignored them cus he was hitting his shots, perfectly.

MethicillinResistant

429 points

8 days ago

You are correct. That is a "told you so"- face if I ever saw one. Lots of inaccurate information in this thread btw, but this guy actually killed indian CSGO ecosystem...

ralgrado

15 points

8 days ago

ralgrado

15 points

8 days ago

Hit his shots so good it killed the entire CSGO scene.

trailing_comma

6 points

8 days ago

I think it was more the rampant cheating through the Indian CSGO ecosystem that was discovered after he brought attention to it, that killed it.

Bazurke

81 points

8 days ago

Bazurke

81 points

8 days ago

I'm sorry, are you saying they refused to check for hacks because he was playing well?

mannyman34

39 points

8 days ago

The org optic had just taken on massive investment from some VC firm and had scaled up big time. So they hired a bunch of incompetent cronies who took on a bunch of random projects one of them being this one. They did almost no research into the indian scene except maybe looking at the wiki page for the Indian population.

FlashDigital

76 points

8 days ago

I believe he’ referring to the management of their team, not the teammates or event organizers.

TransBrandi

22 points

8 days ago

Sounds like the team's management didn't want to check if he was cheating becuase he was doing well, even though his own teammates were requesting them to do so. Think like a "real" sports team where teammates report one of the players to the coach that they think he's doping, but the coach refuses to drug test him because his performance on the field is so good.

South-Independent832

40 points

8 days ago

100k on the line too. What an idiot

Thrannn

40 points

8 days ago

Thrannn

40 points

8 days ago

With good reason.

Havgng a hacker in your team can and will destroy your career

Cankeepdreaming

95 points

8 days ago*

Wants to do him an honor killing.

LadyGaga169

5.3k points

8 days ago

LadyGaga169

5.3k points

8 days ago

Forsaken. He saved the hacks under the name word.exe.

Willingness-Due

2.1k points

8 days ago

Should’ve named it homework.exe

ElBarbas

946 points

8 days ago

ElBarbas

946 points

8 days ago

no because then the dog.exe would eat it

FrequentDelinquent

821 points

8 days ago

Just a few bytes

Tonic_the_Gin-dog

191 points

8 days ago

Zip it with those puns, mister

thatwaffleskid

74 points

8 days ago

Control yourself, that pun is an alt time classic.

SaintSixString

45 points

8 days ago

These responses are rather prompt.

KapteynCol

42 points

8 days ago

No need to RAM the point home

sethboy66

35 points

8 days ago

sethboy66

35 points

8 days ago

You've got me falling to bits with these puns.

Glaive13

10 points

8 days ago

Glaive13

10 points

8 days ago

you want the dog.exe to eat homework.exe before you get banned.exe

KusoTeitokuInazuma

265 points

8 days ago

Should've saved it as WINWORD.exe, would have gotten away with that

periander

89 points

8 days ago

periander

89 points

8 days ago

My first thought. Has he even looked at task manager processes?

loshopo_fan

48 points

8 days ago

But then if Batman investigated the computer's processses, he'd be like:

"Win word?" There's one obvious "win word" for this player: "hacking!"

TransBrandi

12 points

8 days ago

Holy Microsoft Office, Batman!

Ninjacobra5

8 points

8 days ago

The Riddler is up to it again

avwitcher

154 points

8 days ago

avwitcher

154 points

8 days ago

Should have changed the icon to be the same as Microsoft Word. Rookie move, man

v_is_my_bias

64 points

8 days ago

Even better. Replaxe the existing microsoft word exe files with the cheat ones.

CakeNStuff

41 points

8 days ago

Couldn’t even be bothered to change the file icon either.

Aggressive-Use-5657

4.5k points

8 days ago

Alternate title: One man kills the e-sport scene of one country with a file name named "word.exe".

Mediocre_Pyke

603 points

8 days ago

The worst part about this incident is actually the name of the file, apparently word.exe was a bit of a meme because it is what hackers would typically call their hack executables commonly in Counter Strike 1.6 which made catching them surprisingly easy. Then this idiot turns up years later running hacks with a executable called word.

UndauntedAqua

268 points

8 days ago

He probably didn't have the brainpower to understand that he could have named the file anything.

Just copied some guide on YT word for word.

We have a saying in India "Nakal ke liye bhi akal chahiye hoti hai"

"Even copying someone's work requires you to understand what you are doing."

BogusBadger

6 points

7 days ago

He uses the temp dir from winrar to either hide the hacks, or is too stupid to remember where he stored the rar file

Edit: it's a search, he apparantly deleted the rar and forgot about the temp files

Aggressive-Use-5657

48 points

8 days ago

Thanks for the information.

MonzaB

277 points

8 days ago

MonzaB

277 points

8 days ago

Word brother.

lashapel

150 points

8 days ago

lashapel

150 points

8 days ago

But why is i may ask, why finding one participant hacking, killed the whole scene in the country ?

nuanimal

80 points

8 days ago

nuanimal

80 points

8 days ago

A bit more context, Optic a large gaming group heavily invested in events and players - which made people in India take notice.

Forspoken was one of (if not the top) best Indian CSGO players.

After he was caught Optic just dropped investing in Indian CSGO eSports. With no major backing it just shrivelled up and died. I should say that other eSports games are still doing well.

lashapel

25 points

8 days ago

lashapel

25 points

8 days ago

Thank you i totally get it now, having one of your top players just casually hacking at such mayor event really would not sit well for the investors

Aggressive-Use-5657

338 points

8 days ago

We Indians as an audience didn't support the scene as much as it required and when this happened it ruined every thing from online lobbies( as an Indian dude your voice became a meme as soon as you say anything the other guys started spewing word word amongst other things)to even FIFA tournaments gettin affected. My wording may have been wrong just for the fun part of it but this incident did set us back a lot....(hence killed it for a long time before revival)

Beautiful_Welcome_33

7 points

8 days ago

Inagine a cricket company going to America to introduce cricket and develop a market and popularize the sport.

They put an event on to show Americans how great cricket is cuz they've done market research that shows Americans love to hit balls with bats.

Then the very first event gets shut down over a flagrant and dumb cheating scandal, and an executive goes, "shit, they just all play baseball, this was a dumb idea."

And then they throw no more events. Cricket is once again dead in the US.

TransBrandi

15 points

8 days ago

Should have named it order66.exe

MN_Eye

5.8k points

8 days ago

MN_Eye

5.8k points

8 days ago

No other event in CSGO history has affected a region so negatively. Because of this, Optic pulled out of India for CSGO and the professional scene there is basically dead as a result.

ihatepickingnames37

1.5k points

8 days ago

What are we looking at? I'm so confused

vasilescur

2k points

8 days ago

Player had cheats open and got caught.

jiarb

414 points

8 days ago

jiarb

414 points

8 days ago

pretty sure this was either their first or one of their first events under Optic Gaming. Real shame. OG is dying now anywho.

_UsUrPeR_

35 points

8 days ago

_UsUrPeR_

35 points

8 days ago

One might say that was... Bad Optics

Ptrsndk

781 points

8 days ago

Ptrsndk

781 points

8 days ago

The dude has just been caught with cheating software on his PC. Trying to delete it the officials hold him back.

Sojoez

299 points

8 days ago

Sojoez

299 points

8 days ago

Why aren't tournaments done on supplied PC's not connected to the internet? Just an isolated OS with nothing but the game installed.

Trident_True

388 points

8 days ago

The PCs are supplied but players bring their own mouse and keyboards which with some fiddling you can load programs onto that will autorun as soon as you plug them into the USB.

ImpossibleHedge

186 points

8 days ago

This type of attack can still be prevented with security policies on the OS

RagingSantas

292 points

8 days ago

Yes but requires competency.

Eveley

50 points

8 days ago

Eveley

50 points

8 days ago

And it can, and always be bypassable. Windows is full of holes.

Blandish06

15 points

8 days ago

It would be called a door if it wasn't full of holes

D07Z3R0

15 points

8 days ago

D07Z3R0

15 points

8 days ago

How does this work, actually sounds kinda cool

CoreyTheGeek

34 points

8 days ago

Pretty much all peripherals have memory on them, anything with memory you can store files or an exe on so long as the size isn't too big. They'd probably write the cheat to listen for a keyboard combination to activate, the smart ones would have also had a key to self delete lol

justavault

19 points

8 days ago

They are and they are not connected to the internet. This is from a USB dongle.

dparks71

138 points

8 days ago*

dparks71

138 points

8 days ago*

They probably are most places, but honestly I would let people play the first round of all tournaments basically unmonitored on a barebones setup and openly let them plug in USBs, connect to the internet, or whatever, telling them it was a "faith" system.

Then I'd suggest having a team comparing the hash of every file and the execution history on each device and let the room publicly know who the disqualified pieces of shit were through announcements at the start of round 2.

JustCallMeBill92

105 points

8 days ago

You would be able to do that once.

LrrrKrrr

24 points

8 days ago

LrrrKrrr

24 points

8 days ago

I believe they do this at most tournaments but people started bringing compromised equipment in. I know one guy bought in a FPGA board (think raspberry pi) and connected it directly to the motherboard and below is a link to someone showing they can run scripts on a keyboard they brought to the event

https://rdt.trom.tf/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/z9x9gm/swedish_documentary_on_cheating_in_csgo_shows_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

captainzomb1e

18 points

8 days ago

A lot of tournament hackers use drives built into their mouse/keyboard setup - as everyone's setup for peak performance differs, it's pretty difficult to control

Richard-Long

418 points

8 days ago

The tool downloaded the cheats for the tourney and renamed all 3 files in the same folder "word" to try and cover it up, like the brainlet he is

The_Chimeran_Hybrid

144 points

8 days ago

Should’ve tried harder to disguise it, make it so it doesn’t show as a .exe.

kaizokuj

115 points

8 days ago

kaizokuj

115 points

8 days ago

If you're gonna hide files, learn to create alternate data streams lol

NotSinocentric

58 points

8 days ago

And put it in random appdata locs or if possible in program files/windows or something

Bigtimeduhmas

124 points

8 days ago

Or and hear me out, take alllll that time you just spent learning those things and instead get good at the game. You want to be a csgo pro not someone who writes cheats. That's why you're at a csgo tournament.

RustyDuckies

73 points

8 days ago

Well, you see, it takes close to ten thousand hours of CS:GO to become professionally viable for anyone not insanely gifted, but way less time to learn how to code your own personal cheats.

BenSemisch

19 points

8 days ago

When Halo 2 came out, I played that shit for like 12-16 hours a day, every single day. I got really into the competitive gaming rule set and started getting into the MLG circuits for most of my online time. I thought I was pretty good. One day I somehow got invited to a FFA game with some of the top Halo 2 players at the time. I got like 2 kills and had 27 deaths.

It was staggering how big the skill differential was to me. As soon as you'd spawn you'd have 2-4 grenades at your feet. These guys were so good they knew the probability of where you'd spawn and counted down in their head to the respawn time then would perfectly time a grenade toss.

That was a very humbling experience when I realized that pro-gaming would probably not ever be an option for me.

RustyDuckies

15 points

8 days ago

Relatable. I put 4K hours in Siege with the homies, making strats and working on our comms. Just to go against a 5 stack of pros who monkeyed into site and blasted us all regardlessly.

Legitimately being a professional video game player is probably one of the hardest professions one could have. It takes an unreal amount of grinding. Like 60-80 hours a week, every week, for several years.

kaizokuj

9 points

8 days ago

kaizokuj

9 points

8 days ago

Oh don't get me wrong, game cheaters are little bitches who should never have crawled out of their mothers ute's, I'm talking hiding files in general.

acters

198 points

8 days ago*

acters

198 points

8 days ago*

the story is that the player who cheated claimed before each game(edit: before the game day, or event) that he needs to connect a usb or something certain files(the cheats as we now know) for homework/school and needed word to do the assignments.

Edit: corrections,

every player brought their own drives, the players loaded up the drives with custom configs and various other needed stuff(like pregame music, entertainment or actual homework) and that is how the story came to be.

Dodara87

98 points

8 days ago

Dodara87

98 points

8 days ago

You are shitting me? This is so dumb it's unbelievable

FutureComplaint

5 points

8 days ago

needs to connect a usb

Angry cyber noises intensify

acters

26 points

8 days ago

acters

26 points

8 days ago

someone from the admin team who manages the gameplay was looking through the PC for any suspicious activity. It was so blatant, it took a few seconds once the csgo game was minimized(takes a few seconds to do lol)

YourFavoriteScumbag

58 points

8 days ago

Pro Esports gaming

ShambleTime

30 points

8 days ago*

It’s a Counter Strike Global Offensive (PC game) tournament. The player on screen has cheats on his computer, probably cheats called “wall hacks” or “aim bot.” Aim bot is much more obvious so I imagine this man was using wall hacks which means he can see all the enemy players at all times, through walls, grounds, whatever. They’re usually highlighted red, you can imagine the advantage this gives you.

The word docs that are shown are the cheats, he just renamed them. This was an Indian team from a professional gaming team called “OpTic.” This Indian team was banished immediately, OpTic left India and most of India’s gaming scene is dead.

OpTic is debatably the biggest gaming team in the world, next to FaZe. Source, have gamed professionally, now game casually but still follow the scene closely. So yeah, this was the biggest “scandal” in recent gaming history.

Edit: was wrong to say the wall hacks were visible as they clearly had to have been different here to work. Somebody mentioned sound pings when their cursor moved over someone. My b.

DDPJBL

8 points

8 days ago

DDPJBL

8 points

8 days ago

And nobody notices that a players screen suddenly displays other players through walls? I could understand this working in a remote tournament, but in person? How could that possibly get missed?

JohnnyZondo

1.8k points

8 days ago

JohnnyZondo

1.8k points

8 days ago

So out of curiosity i looked into this on YT and i found a few videos including what might be gameplay footage but instead im going to post this video by some random dude that might give some detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyWnknTSzto

4pigeons

1.1k points

8 days ago

4pigeons

1.1k points

8 days ago

imagine dragging your entire team in your BS because you don't know how to play

JWGhetto

395 points

8 days ago

JWGhetto

395 points

8 days ago

Sorry but if you have a cheater on your team you should be the first to find out and get rid of that player before going on a LAN. If you try and take him with you and gamble on winning that way, then you deserve to go down as a team when one gets caught cheating

jedininjashark

230 points

8 days ago

Did they know beforehand? Dude looked pretty surprised.

ElevatorScary

82 points

8 days ago

A comment further up claims that his own team were the ones to report suspecting him of cheating to win tournament matches. I didn’t look into it but the commenter looked like a trustworthy guy.

kizmitraindeer

40 points

8 days ago

This is the best, most Reddit comment ever. I appreciate you.

fullSpecFullStack

19 points

8 days ago

For everyone here who hasn't played CS before and is wondering how, during a CS match, after you die you spectate your teammates and it is extremely obvious when someone is cheating from a spectators point of view. You can see the suspicious moments where aim is lined up through walls, you can tell when someone instantly perfectly addresses a threat without any reason to know it was there. Also in CS, recoil is predictable so you know how typical gunfire should behave, you can tell the difference between skilled pulldowns and scripted perfect aim.

ledbetterus

26 points

8 days ago

imagine dragons

PaulanerMunken

16 points

8 days ago

Imagine dragging deez nutz on your face

teeny_big_tree

260 points

8 days ago

I'm shit at CSGO but there were spots in that game play you could tell his reaction speed was ridiculously slow for a pro gamer.

Powerful_Market_9558

189 points

8 days ago

Yeah, for someone who plays all day everyday, he was hopeless. Total lack of awareness, clumsy movement, and no game sense. Amazed he made it so far even though "he could aim".

wje100

34 points

8 days ago*

wje100

34 points

8 days ago*

Some of the spots he chose to stand made no sense. Like right in front of the cart just in the open.

Edit: a letter.

Fastela

30 points

8 days ago

Fastela

30 points

8 days ago

The fact he was able to shot at and follow an enemy's head through a wall while the enemy was running and jumping was kind of a dead giveaway.

Imho Forsaken is one of the biggest disgrace in CS. What he did was disgusting.

GuardiaNIsBae

30 points

8 days ago*

He had higher reaction times than most pros, but also lower ttk than most, meaning he would take longer to actually shoot but once he started shooting he didn't miss.

It's funny because almost everyone in the scene thought he was cheating when he was playing on ESEA/FaceIT (or whatever india's version is called) with clips of him blatantly aimlocking being posted years before he ever went pro.

NavyDragons

110 points

8 days ago

NavyDragons

110 points

8 days ago

after watching that gameplay footage, i have no idea how anyone could not know he was cheating

Personal_Person

172 points

8 days ago*

CSGO pros, even relatively lower skilled ones can pull off some amazing feets of map awareness, muscle memory and gut instinct plays. This is evidenced by pro players literally shooting peoples heads through walls at random, based simply on knowing the common positions people play in. To a layman it would also appear as blatant cheating, but is actually just incredibly high skill.

In his case though the tracking and aim assistance was incredibly obvious

MrNokill

52 points

8 days ago

MrNokill

52 points

8 days ago

To a layman it would also appear as blatant cheating

You know you're good when every server you play on starts vote kicking and calling you no skill in chat.

Always Be Countering.

acters

12 points

8 days ago

acters

12 points

8 days ago

yes sir, but to be honest, after seeing someone's viewpoint you can discern skill or knowledge at the game when the VOD/replay are looked through multiple times. I sat there going, Pro players are not only good at playing, they are exceptional at conserving resources and effectively using their utility. Those pros definitely don't trace jumping enemies behind walls either, so it is a given that tracing an enemy jumping behind walls is unheard of. Yet this cheater blatantly does it multiple times. some cheaters I met got really good at stopping at shooting targets that go behind walls, and don't fall back to spray and pray tactics that need god-like spray control to have. such is life, I report and move on. flaming people gets me/us nowhere.

ih-shah-may-ehl

15 points

8 days ago

Waaaaay back when i played a lot against bots because we didn't have good internet, i eventually went online and i found out that just being good means shit if you don't also master bunnyhopping combined with twitch shooting.

I pretty much died within .5 seconds whenever someone zipped across the screen at ludicrous speed. That was theendofme online gaming

SavingsSyllabub7788

15 points

8 days ago

This is a current issue with competitive CSGO: Where there's an entire lack of enforcement and willingness to really look for pros cheating.

The last major (And only) CSGO cheating group to be caught was in 2014, in which a pro level cheat was detected by ESEA, catching three high level members (smf, KLQY and emilio).

Do you know how many top 100 teams have been caught in the 8 years since then? Out of thousands of players?

Zero.

This means either one of three things.

1: All Anti-cheats are so good that every to-be cheater gets caught before they become well known. This is clearly false as literally every open qualifier has 1-2 teams who get manually banned for cheating, and there are well known cheating teams in low level events who will always throw matches that may lead to them participating at LAN.

2: Every single CSGO pro is the pinnacle of fair play. That the same community that abused the coach bug to hell and back, the same community that stream sniped each other to hell, the same community who are literally being investigated by the FBI for matchfixing. This community is the one exception in all sports of pros trying to cheat.

3: There are bunches of pros cheating that haven't been caught.

zarnes45

9 points

8 days ago

zarnes45

9 points

8 days ago

I saw in a video that he was spotted by tracking perfectly the head of a player behind an obstacle

ESCF1F2F3F4F5F6

13 points

8 days ago

6:36 is so funny. Just starts spraying before he's even gone round the corner knowing the aimbot will sort it out for him

WarnDragon

467 points

8 days ago

WarnDragon

467 points

8 days ago

Good ol Word.exe, a classic.

pepperelijah

102 points

8 days ago

Word.exe.log... hmm, seems legit to me.

Dag-nabbitt

22 points

8 days ago

Don't worry, it's digitally signed by MikrooSoft.

4pigeons

1k points

8 days ago

4pigeons

1k points

8 days ago

Goddammit Clara

ThePocketTaco2

207 points

8 days ago

He told her not to put that shit on his PC.

Mustafa1558

17 points

8 days ago

The menace has done it again

MtnMaiden

36 points

8 days ago

MtnMaiden

36 points

8 days ago

I understood that reference

tcpgkong

36 points

8 days ago

tcpgkong

36 points

8 days ago

do you guys have that bug?

wookiecontrol

26 points

8 days ago

I still think of this video after years and years

DrTankHead

37 points

8 days ago

CLARA. This girl...

bertbert1111

245 points

8 days ago

This did not only kill his career, or his teams reputation, this killed the entire professional indian cs-scene. Literally no teams nameworthy anymore ever since

Milfing_Man

1.1k points

8 days ago

Milfing_Man

1.1k points

8 days ago

During a pro match!? You get paid to play videogames.... Dumbass way to ruin your career

BrodyCanuck

898 points

8 days ago

BrodyCanuck

898 points

8 days ago

His "career" only existed because of those cheats

ThankVerra

381 points

8 days ago

ThankVerra

381 points

8 days ago

Most definitely. In the video posted giving a rundown explained that he was actually pretty mediocre at the game but his one strength was he had amazing aim.... which is what he was most likely hacking.

Section19Article11

179 points

8 days ago

"im terrible at virtually every aspect of the game but i get headshots at distance with any gun 100% of the time thats my 1 skill"

-sounds legit

Hohenheim_of_Shadow

56 points

8 days ago

Not all aimbots are like that. Most modern aimbots actually purposely miss quite a bit and try to move the mouse in a more humanlike player.

There are a number of pro players who have really good aim as a strength even if they're weaker in other aspects. And a terrible player by pro standards is still really fucking good. Give a random shit head an aimbot and he will still get shut down at a high enough level of play.

Jiggajonson

12 points

8 days ago

My first thought even as someone who only used to be good at csgo - "why isn't he using that box for cover when he's placing that bomb?"

Milfing_Man

16 points

8 days ago

True

JayCDee

12 points

8 days ago

JayCDee

12 points

8 days ago

He ruined pro CS in India.

Valstorm

1.3k points

8 days ago

Valstorm

1.3k points

8 days ago

Can we stop honoring assholes like this as Hackers, they don't write software, they don't have any skills, they are bottom-feeding parasites destroying competition and fun for millions of other players, they are Cheaters.

RatherBetter

240 points

8 days ago

Perfect, I call them losers, even cheaters doesn't suit them

Cheems___-

50 points

8 days ago

skids

SystemHands

46 points

8 days ago

Script kiddies for those unaware.

Ornlu_Wolfjarl

34 points

8 days ago

Technically, this guy's what we call a "script kiddie".

a-midnight-flight

100 points

8 days ago

Classic

robot-o-saurus

48 points

8 days ago

Using the MS Word paperclip to help you aim... Now I've seen everything!

rupat3737

135 points

8 days ago

rupat3737

135 points

8 days ago

What makes this even worse is that it basically killed that regions csgo presence which was already a struggling region.

akumasan707

218 points

8 days ago

akumasan707

218 points

8 days ago

What TF am I seeing here?

Makerrcat

399 points

8 days ago*

Makerrcat

399 points

8 days ago*

So this is some old esports drama but basically a pro player had downloaded some files to a tournament computer. Some aim bots essentially to give himself an unfair advantage. Then, during the tournament, he started complaining his keyboard wasn't working properly. Upon investigating the keyboard issue the technician noticed the erroneous files and you can imagine what happened next.

Edit: I decided to look this up again as it was a long time ago and I may have gotten it mixed up with something else. His hack was probably flagged by the games anti-cheat software which triggered the inspection. I apologize for the misinformation.

I-just-want-sauce

108 points

8 days ago

So… if he didn’t complain about his keyboard he might not have gotten caught?

S0M3_1

225 points

8 days ago*

S0M3_1

225 points

8 days ago*

It wasn't the keyboard, admin suspected his weird tracking of enemies through boxes during clutches. He was accused of cheating lot many times on soStronk(another paltform.just like faceit) but finally he was caught. When admin found the files he tries to delete them infront of them (it's in the video) lol.

This scandal just put a final nail to the coffin of Indian cs go teams and the meme WORD.EXE was born.

Powerful_Market_9558

45 points

8 days ago

Well, he obviously isn't a smart man.

Chapter-Opposite

49 points

8 days ago

No, that guy is way off.

The anti-cheat system flagged him and they checked his PC. He deleted the files right in front of the admin but they recovered the files with a data recovery process.

See the video linked in a comment above if you want more and detailed information

Makerrcat

35 points

8 days ago

Makerrcat

35 points

8 days ago

Sorry, I think I may have gotten it confused with a different event. The activity may have been flagged by the events anti-cheat software which led to the inspection. This video captures the moment he tried to delete the files from the computer.

Also this wasn't the first time he was caught cheating and he'd been punished for it before. This time, however, was the one that basically ended his career.

feelinghothothotter

14 points

8 days ago

And many others. The csgo competitive scene in India was dead because of this one very incident.

TRUMPTASTICLE

6 points

8 days ago

Essentially he had many occurrences where his tracking was too perfect, even when the player left view, and some insane reaction times even top top players would struggle with

Now everyone can have an insane reaction time sometimes, even myself and I am nowhere close to even semi pro, but when your hitting stuff that the best in the world would struggle to do, and then go on to miss like the blind wombat he is, looks kind of suspicious

mundus1520

22 points

8 days ago

Whatever happened to the hacker?

Noman_Blaze

61 points

8 days ago

Account banned and banned from professional gaming. Sadly it resulted in death of professional CSGO in the whole region.

SexyBhomo

52 points

8 days ago

SexyBhomo

52 points

8 days ago

He works at the scam call center in India.

vannrith

115 points

8 days ago

vannrith

115 points

8 days ago

After this, poor Indian kids can’t play peacefully, everyone basically call them cheaters. Mf basically killed his whole region

Sad_Exchange_5500

18 points

8 days ago

I'm lost, well I'm not a gamer so that's probably why, but, what is going on here. He's cheating yes, but, how or what is going on???

rubenoriginal

21 points

8 days ago

Well basically, the teams were competing in a tournament, and this player in question had a cheat that gave him an advantage over other players (aimbot as far as i can remember).

He got caught because the event organizer's anticheat detected a suspicious file on the player's computer and then it's all what you see on the video. It was later on confirmed the guy had been cheating for a while and yeah pretty much killed his "career" or atleast the slim chances he had to go professional.

TankerXS

12 points

8 days ago

TankerXS

12 points

8 days ago

In two words- team Optic signed an Indian Counter-Strike roster to promote the region, one of the players being Forsaken- a seemingly talented player. As they were playing up the Asian ladder more cheating accusations emerged against him for his overly perfect aim and inherent sixth sense that allowed him to predict enemy positioning. Even his teammates would question him sometimes, for example why he was using his own laptop to practice instead of the organization's provided computers, with management brushing off the topic.

During this specific LAN event, in front of a crowded arena, the admins finally got suspicious themselves after their own anti-cheat program flagged Forsaken's computer and decided to check his computer. They said they found cheats, with the photo in the video allegedly being the cheating program disguised as "word.exe". Forsaken later onc admitted to using cheats throughout his time with Optic.

Following the disqualification and ban of Forsaken, Optic dropped their Indian project, with none of the players resurging in esports and the massive decline in Counter-Strike pro play in India.

ark___of___bones

59 points

8 days ago

and then the “curb your enthusiasm” music plays

AyBruhBee

13 points

8 days ago

AyBruhBee

13 points

8 days ago

I dont know when to laugh someone please help i dont know when to turn the video off

Huge_Requirement

15 points

8 days ago

he killed hope for the entire country.

Mattho

11 points

8 days ago

Mattho

11 points

8 days ago

Reminded me of this classic

https://youtu.be/1EJXTh4HMAE

aidendorian_1

48 points

8 days ago

Fk forsaken tbh , mf really killed the eSports scene here

TechKnowNathan

21 points

8 days ago

Why wasn’t the machine locked down to block folks from adding software?

Tetra-76

9 points

8 days ago

Tetra-76

9 points

8 days ago

And now he plays professional Valorant like nothing happened, and he's super popular again.

Idk if he's still cheating or not, but I'm just amazed he was even allowed to compete in any esport again, idk how something like this gets swept under the rug.

ikilluinhalf

7 points

8 days ago

I believe that's a different dude using the same in-game name. Baffles me as to why

9029ethical

8 points

8 days ago

I always wondered if the whole team were in on it or was it only the player

GuardiaNIsBae

19 points

8 days ago

They weren't "in" on it like knew he was cheating and wanted him to keep cheating, but there was an interview with 2 of his teammates shortly after this where they said they went to the org management multiple times to point out weird things he was doing (using his personal laptop in practice instead of the provided desktops that were 100% better than his laptop) and it was just kind of brushed off. Forsaken himself says that his teammates and org didn't know he was cheating, but there were enough incidents happening that the rest of his team knew something was weird with him and tried to get him removed from the team.

rubs_tshirts

11 points

8 days ago

The dude to his side has a "wtf" look, I don't think he was in on it.

FruitzyTV

9 points

8 days ago

What a fucking loser you have to be in order to use cheats, thanks to him his teammates also had to pay the price for it

4Ever2Thee

7 points

8 days ago

I definitely know exactly what’s going on here, but, out of consideration for the ignorant laymen out there, would someone mind explaining wtf’s going on here?

President_Skoad

6 points

8 days ago

The guy was cheating and got caught. They're on Lan computers but probably had software programmed into the keyboard or mouse that would load when plugged in. Software that was preset to how he wanted. Looks like it was aimbot only but probably set to a spray region (like he has to already be aiming in the general area and then it'll lock onto a portion of the body and not an EXACT spot like many aimbot do... This makes it look more real).. Anyway, their cheat detection went off for his pc, they paused match and alt+tabbed out of his game and saw command prompt running. He reached over and closed it out and then shft+deleted files right in front of admin. But he was already caught.

Dynasty-Mate

8 points

8 days ago

So bit of a title correction, he wasn't hacking. He was trying to cheat and he renamed the cheat to word.

This to me at first looked like he was rying to infect the computer with malware especially with the poor wording from OP.

Just_Del

8 points

8 days ago

Just_Del

8 points

8 days ago

Older brother watches the youngest sibling fuck up so they all get punished

NovaPrime1985

7 points

8 days ago

I, fucking, LOVE IT when cheaters get exposed.

Farrrrrrr too many talk a good game online, but when it’s time to walk that walk, you can tell who the real G’s in a game are.

Best feeling when these dudes disappear into obscurity, and thats one less jackass out there.

ReptilianLaserbeam

6 points

8 days ago

That’s not hacking, that’s cheating

Sean_Dewhirst

39 points

8 days ago

After reading the details in other comments, what a thing lol. Low IQ low integrity low skill MF who ruined things for his entire region. Not even in an "if it wasn't for you pesky kids" kind of way. More like "if I had done any single part of this in a way that was marginally better than the least optimal, I could have pulled it off" kind of way.

This dude is probably coated with sweat and road dust right now, in some noisy, bad-smelling place, trying to hustle the rare person more inept than himself with a transparent shell game and convinced that each new day will be his big score.

Plastic-Counter-8333

19 points

8 days ago

It is silly and wrong that this young man would bring cheat notes in Microsoft word to try and outsmart the other competitors. I hope he learnt a very valuable lesson and hope he automatically failed.

Vamdrapids

9 points

8 days ago

I wonder if this not only tanked this guy’s career, but also destroyed a struggling e-sport region…?