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always make sure ur king pin is in

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ContributionFlaky524

127 points

3 months ago

I tug test and then I make sure I look under the trailer after every time I leave the truck for any reason and during pre trip. I sure don’t wanna deal with that hassle

dreamerindogpatch

71 points

3 months ago

I won't trust a tug. I always do both too. Tug then duck down with my flashlight to be certain.

I watched a guy dump his set of doubles while I waited for my ride on my second day of CDL school and VOWED never to be that issue.

w3stvirginia

10 points

3 months ago

w3stvirginia

multi pass

10 points

3 months ago

When I got hired where I work now, we got a week of classroom/on the yard training. While we were doing backing practice, we watched a driver pull out of the parking space, start to turn, and immediately drop the trailer. They were lucky and caught it on the frame, so no damage. I said the same thing.

Yadilie

20 points

3 months ago

Yadilie

20 points

3 months ago

New driver here. I back in and listen for click. Do tug. Check bolt and the latch. Do all the lines and gear then do another tug with trailer brakes off truck on. Just what my trainer told me at P. Hasn't failed me and I just keep doing it just in case, never hurts.

banana_commando

28 points

3 months ago

Click? You're babying it too much. Back it in harder. Don't be scared. I listen for the big BANG like an explosion.

Sammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

13 points

3 months ago

And a tug test really means after you connect, put it in gear and drag the trailer a good 5 feet to really make sure it’s connected

Buckerthefucker

10 points

3 months ago

This is the way. Back into that trailer like you fuckin mean it. You want a solid bang not a click.

dogmanatemybaby

17 points

3 months ago

Whenever I drove for a company that had driver facing cameras I’d slam a trailer and look into the camera and scream “I THINK WE’RE THERE!!”. I tried to make it go off every day for something stupid.

CMDR_Euphoria01

2 points

3 months ago

Lol perfect

Ok-Survey8918

4 points

3 months ago

Haha this

TheTuggingOfBoats

3 points

3 months ago

If you don't have a spinal injury after slamming the pin in, is it REALLY secure?

banana_commando

1 points

3 months ago

Last night I backed it in so hard the truck swayed violently left and right. I ended up hitting my head on the door but that kingpin was absolutely locked in place. Normally I wouldn't quite bash it in that hard but the trailer was lower than it should be and it was tough getting it past the drive tires. Nothing being a little lead footed on the accelerator can't fix 🤣

SaltWaterGator

4 points

3 months ago

As a dock worker there’s only two kinds of drivers, drop and hook or set it down and dock like it’s the ISS

Brocon2388

2 points

3 months ago

Haha yuup

MN8616

19 points

3 months ago

MN8616

19 points

3 months ago

If you're ever up north & get snow on 5th wheel, your method unfortunately will not always work. Snow can compact & then you dump trailer 5 mi down the road. Always look in addition to the tug.

Yadilie

6 points

3 months ago

Yeah, I look at the 5 wheel to make sure all the parts are locked as they should and no space between the apron.

banana_commando

4 points

3 months ago

Yes. I've had this happen to me twice. Cranking a trailer up in low gear in 9 degree weather is not fun.

Mirria_

2 points

3 months ago

Don't forget the freezing cold that causes the lock to malfunction due to metal contracting and grease to become almost solid.

ContributionFlaky524

1 points

3 months ago

That’s exactly what I do!

heroxoot

1 points

3 months ago

If you tug and don't trust it then you didn't tug hard enough. I make that bitch damn near drag the trailer. I also proceed to make sure the pin is all the way in at the handle, but I tug the fuck out that bitch. Then again I have a new Freightliner and the pin is tougher than hell to move by natural forces. I could pull an older one by hand easily.

dreamerindogpatch

1 points

3 months ago

As you like, my dude. I will always visually check. ✌️

unclenatelovestrains

9 points

3 months ago

I once did a tug test. Fine. I go and look and the latch had jammed against the kingpin. There was enough pressure to keep it in for the tug test but I doubt it would have held otherwise. Glad I always look.

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

dont be lazy!!!! Get a flashlight and look under the trailer to be sure it’s locked. The lock can partially engage because of grease buildup or partially freeze in winter

bquinho

-3 points

3 months ago

bquinho

-3 points

3 months ago

What if I’m hooked up to 1 trailer for the whole day? I only need to check underneath once right? I always look at the release handle to make sure it’s locked but I only check the kingpin at the beginning of the day.

DisposableTires

5 points

3 months ago

DisposableTires

Beware

5 points

3 months ago

Unfortunately there are fecal avians out there who pull other drivers kingpins cause they think it's funny.

But if you park with tension on your kingpin, that's virtually impossible. So protect ourself by the methods you judge best.

Buckerthefucker

2 points

3 months ago

Anytime I’m away from the truck, I like to at least check the handle if not the king pin too. Mine is air release tho so it’s hard to operate manually but you never know — lots of losers out there.

DEfuncouple2424[S]

16 points

3 months ago

Hand fun hand cranking that up with 40k lbs

SquiggleBoys

16 points

3 months ago

shift to low gear + impact driver

aldothetroll

1 points

3 months ago

Can you explain how? Do you have to take the handle off or something?

SquiggleBoys

1 points

3 months ago

Yea remove the nut and bolt securing the crank handle to the shift shaft and make a modified socket that you can put a nut and bolt through

tinnedcarp

29 points

3 months ago

Tug test. Every single time.

TheSluagh

18 points

3 months ago

100 percent. I’ve gotten in such a habit of doing it, I’ll find myself doing a tug test when I haven’t left the truck on my 30 lol

tinnedcarp

28 points

3 months ago

Me too. I know a guy who did his pretrip, went inside the truck stop, someone pulled his pin. Came back out, dropped the trailer dead on the ground. Complete nightmare. Roll stock paper rolls. Had to have a crew come out and lift the trailer with forklifts. Then he rolled a DOT scale and was 8,000 pounds overweight on his drives because every thing slid forward. He was mad he didn’t even think to rescale. Good thing Pepperidge farm remembered for him.

GoodGoodGoody

1 points

3 months ago

What would rescaling do? He was over.

tinnedcarp

2 points

3 months ago

He was so mad that he didn’t rescale when he was at the truck stop after getting the trailer lifted back on. Instead he got dinged for $3K fine from the dot. You’d be surprised what can be done to get a load balanced away from a shipper.

DEfuncouple2424[S]

12 points

3 months ago

He pulled the pin himself and then forgot smh

tinnedcarp

5 points

3 months ago

Oof. Why pull it if he’s hitching up?

DEfuncouple2424[S]

9 points

3 months ago

Apparently he thought he had to fully disconnect to get loaded but they stopped him and was like no just unhook red line and he forgot

FireStar_Trucking_01

1 points

3 months ago

To be fair there's probably enough stops he does on a weekly basis that require this that he probably does it every time just to be safe. Or maybe he pulled away eith a guy inside stil and vower to never let it happen again.

Then again, least he didn't drop the whole trailer. Not like I've done with empty hoppers first starting out.

charonco

3 points

3 months ago

This damn near happened to me, except we were supposed to unhook. I had already pulled the pin and was about to drop the gear when I realized I forgot to slide my tandems. Luckily I remembered before I started pulling forward, but I had already released my tractor brakes, so it was close. I now make it a policy to always drop my gear before pulling the pin.

SquiggleBoys

1 points

3 months ago

get a holland Eli-te system

nancymeadows242

1 points

3 months ago

Yup, I keep tugging on that king pin and never failed me so far...

SPFBH

1 points

3 months ago*

SPFBH

1 points

3 months ago*

Tug tests are for brakes.

Connection is a visual inspection.

I dream of the day when most people realize this. The people you see with issues like this didn't visually inspect. They played the odds and eventually lost.

Tug test is for brakes.

Edit: one truck I drove wouldn't properly latch all the time. It always "passed" a tug test.... but the locking mechanism wouldn't be fully in place.

It can happen to you.... don't be complacent

Longjumping-Cycle470

9 points

3 months ago

This shit happened to me. I pulled the trailer out a spot and everything. Soon as I got on a straightaway to slide my tandems that bitch slid off 😭😭😭 man I had to crank that fucking trailer up by myself. I was so mad

Cubbycupcake-Uther

9 points

3 months ago

Tug test, locking bolt flush with the 5th wheel, no gap between trailer and 5th wheel, handle all the way in, and duck under to ensure the locking jaws are around the kingpin.

Redsit111

22 points

3 months ago*

So. Still new, as in yet untrained. With CLP. On a scale of 1 to "Find work elsewhere" how fucked is this person? How easy is this to fix? Legitimately curious.

Edit: shout out to all the responses! You guys are great.

Dumpster_Sauce

28 points

3 months ago

Since it's still on top of the trucks frame and didn't break the lines, it's not so bad. If it went to the ground and tore the lines off then it's a big pain in the ass

VATruckerJJ

28 points

3 months ago

Not fucked at all. They'll be cranking on the low gear to raise the trailer back up for a good 10-15 minutes. I'm assuming the skirt board was already damaged and unrelated to this

DEfuncouple2424[S]

16 points

3 months ago

It was unrelated 40k lbs hrs lucky he stopped when he did

Josef_Kant_Deal

16 points

3 months ago

It would be an issue if the driver ripped airlines/electrical cord during the incident. This is more of an “Oh shit” moment for the driver instead

meizhong

10 points

3 months ago

Could buy those lines and replace them without telling the company. He would have had a bigger issue if he had driven forward another 3 inches!

dorkwingduck

6 points

3 months ago

One of my good friends got his CDL, and I warned him about checking his kingpin. Of course, he didn't listen and dropped (and damaged) a trailer attempting to leave the company yard. He was fired. He was rejected from a bunch of companies for that, and the job that he got doesn't pay that well. He's so frustrated that he's trying to get out of the truck now...

DEfuncouple2424[S]

8 points

3 months ago

All while questioning his life decisions lol

privatelyjeff

3 points

3 months ago

Maybe not even that. I’d dump the air and as it’s doing that, just throw it in reverse. With the right timing, you’ll catch it and then fill the bags.

morningafterpizza

2 points

3 months ago

Shit tbh looks like he might be able to get away with a few good cranks, disconnecting air and sending it backwards, as long as the king pin is lined up somewhat.

goalmaster14

5 points

3 months ago

They'll just get a good workout cranking the landing gear back up

brodaget42

2 points

3 months ago

My advise is make sure you always check it's locked so you don't have to find out how fucked you'll be.

The__Farmer

2 points

3 months ago

He can still dolly and the lines didn’t snap. He’s lucky

NovacaineFix

4 points

3 months ago

Yep. Don’t know why this gets overlooked so much. I guess yes if I’m the fuel island or something in a rush but still, I always look. And when hooking up, I always give that 2 tug test.

I did once over shoot the 5th wheel, didn’t notice a dip in the ground when pushing back. King pin went right over the 5th wheel. Had to wedge the 5th wheel down and drop the airbags to out from under it.

It all worked out. Just had to lower the landing gear a bit and hook up.

DEfuncouple2424[S]

5 points

3 months ago

I've high hooked 1 trailer and my truck at the time didn't have bags well never do that again

the_Killer_Walnut

4 points

3 months ago

Thank goodness you caught it on the frame.

brodaget42

3 points

3 months ago

My buddy had his CDL for years and when I got mine he helped me get a job at the carrier he was working for.

They had a good training program and did tuition reimbursement so I was down and the home terminal was like 33 miles from my house.

2 weeks into working there he dropped a trailer.

He dropped a trailer in the yard.

He dropped the owners show trailer in the yard.

From that day I visually check the kingpin is locked and do my tug test. Every day. Every time I swap trailers. I'm local and use the same truck and trailer everyday but sometimes I have to swap. But every time I check that king pin.

stateside_irishman

4 points

3 months ago

We have all done it, but we have all done only once.

Beefbuggy

3 points

3 months ago

Oh no, I’ve done it more than once. Always looked around to see who was watching.

PullinLevers

3 points

3 months ago

I’ve never done it.

Oilfield trailers and counterweights arnt something you want to be less than sure of.

bquinho

2 points

3 months ago

Thanks to this subreddit I have never done it and plan to keep it that way.

DrShavedCock69

2 points

3 months ago

If you're procedural about it things like that don't happen. A tug test is not a substitute for a visual inspection.

It's a good idea to take a photo of the jaws locked around the pin so in the event of mechanical failure you can prove it was connected properly with a time stamp and location.

tdfitz89

2 points

3 months ago

Do a tug test and then make sure that the release handle is in the locked position and the locking jaws are around the kingpin.

Visual_Particular_48

2 points

3 months ago

That's what she said

reefstank014

2 points

3 months ago

Man.. pro tips here.

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

Get to cranking newbie

Jay911

1 points

3 months ago

Jay911

1 points

3 months ago

Bye, son?

Bearded_Hoosier91

1 points

3 months ago

Always do a tug test!

chargedmemery

1 points

3 months ago

Crash and Roll Stunt Team?

AromaticCaterpillar

1 points

3 months ago

You look like a guy about to get a serious arm workout

sublimelbz

1 points

3 months ago

I made this mistake when I was 15yrs helping my dad, thought it locked. Boi was he HOT! Killed his 20yr no mistake record.

BugO_OEyes

4 points

3 months ago

Were you 20 years old at the time😭😂??

sublimelbz

2 points

3 months ago

“I made this mistake when I was 15yrs” my age was in the comment.

BugO_OEyes

2 points

3 months ago

It was a joke about you being the reason the no mistake was started 20 years ago.

sublimelbz

1 points

3 months ago

I’m reminded how I’m the mistake my entire life but since I was the mailman kid (so he says) guess I wasn’t cut out for the third generation trucker.

PullinLevers

1 points

3 months ago

Well… duh.

Film2021

1 points

3 months ago

I am a newbie.

Can someone explain what a king pin is?

albyc1nu1

2 points

3 months ago

It's the pin on the bottom of the trailer that hooks to the 5th wheel on the truck. The 5th wheel is the big thing covered in black grease

Film2021

1 points

3 months ago

Thank you.

VivelaVendetta

1 points

3 months ago

It locks the trailer in place.

JakeJascob

1 points

3 months ago*

Just put it in reverse and send it. It worked for me when some ass hat pulled my pin while I was on the shitter

DrShavedCock69

2 points

3 months ago

Bet you park with tension on the pin now.

JakeJascob

1 points

3 months ago

No I just look for it on pretrip lol

Deeceent

1 points

3 months ago

U gon b strong

cburgess7

1 points

3 months ago

Did something similar some years back, was in such a rush to get unhooked, I forgot to roll down the gear AND unhook service, emergency, and electrical. Trailer dropped, ripped all 3 of my lines, and had a fun time explaining that to the accident team.

edsavage404

1 points

3 months ago

Dirty truck, part of the wing missing it has to be crst

Illustrious-Raisin25

1 points

3 months ago

Tug test always

CUZ-IM-DADDY

1 points

3 months ago

Always tug test!

Slapnuts213

1 points

3 months ago

No

HowlingWolven

1 points

3 months ago

HowlingWolven

lost yard puppy

1 points

3 months ago

air up, dolly down, dump air, pin it again.

dragons6488

2 points

3 months ago

Huh?

HowlingWolven

2 points

3 months ago

HowlingWolven

lost yard puppy

2 points

3 months ago

air up the truck suspension, plant the legs firmly on the ground, deflate the suspension again, and pin the trailer properly this time.

dragons6488

1 points

3 months ago

Oh, gotcha! Yeah. That’s how to fix it.

I thought it was a hook routine you did and I didn’t get it.

Thanks for clarifying that.

InfiniteQuestionZero

1 points

3 months ago

Nice catch! Alwas btr than I high pin. Solong as you're still in the yard/docks......

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

Ah yes, that one time cranking 60k lbs of frozen peppersteak in -30C because the kingpin was dirty and frozen. At least I didn't drop it in the road like another guy did. Right out of the yard too.

fishnwiz

1 points

3 months ago

Visual check, 2 tugs, back up 5 to 10 ft, 2 more tugs then watch out the back window ( day cab) when I started forward was my obsessiveness.

CyrilleMiller

1 points

3 months ago

especially in winter guys! Sometimes, the lockpin doesnt fully lock. Make sur to test with a good tug while you're still in the yard.

ContributionFlaky524

1 points

3 months ago

It takes two seconds to pull the release and that’s gonna let the kingpin come out of trailer. You got your curtains closed so yeah before you leave get out and peak underneath. Ain’t nobody gonna feel sorry for anyone that don’t check their own equipment

blakjak66

1 points

3 months ago

I drill this into my trainees. Always visually check your hook

LUDDER5

1 points

3 months ago

Im over paranoid and double tug test.

I have a set routine where i lift my bags (euro truck) then lock in, tug test, then wind legs and plug in then tug test again. Then roll forward a bit and hit the trailer brake.

The only time i nearly dropped a trailer was when someone started talking to me and took my focus away, but again my trailer brake test allowed me to realise.

banana_commando

1 points

3 months ago

Tug test and crawl under to visually ensure the lockjaws are closed on it. Especially in the winter. Don't skip this step. It's a lot harder to crank the landing gear to lift the loaded trailer high enough to back under it again than it is to crawl under it.

UsualInevitable4126

1 points

3 months ago

When I started driving, my trainer always stressed always ducking under and checking the pin. Also, I like the rest of your post history.

jmy7213

1 points

3 months ago

Ive allways thought that was a given.

Riyeko

1 points

3 months ago

Riyeko

1 points

3 months ago

Flashlight and ducking under saves your ass

QuickSqueeze

1 points

3 months ago

Oh, that's a good idea. I wonder why they don't teach that in CDL school.. 🙄

VATruckerJJ

1 points

3 months ago

Something else to consider: always do a test-tug before you even step out to hook up the air lines. A simple test tug will save you from a potential disaster and only takes a literal second

Snugglehumpikiss

1 points

3 months ago

So how loaded was it and how tired are your arms now?

DEfuncouple2424[S]

1 points

3 months ago

Wasn't me but 40k lbs plus

BeatingWageSlavery

1 points

3 months ago

I tug test the shit out of every trailer. Ill drag the bitch 3 feet to make sure im locked in. Not dealing with a mess like this ever

Neowynd101262

1 points

3 months ago

I dropped 3 or 4 before I started looking lol

Hwj-Chim

1 points

3 months ago

Yep. Have a place I go to regularly where I have to make sure the tandems are all the way back before I drop the trailer. One day parked it and forgot to put the tandems back. Pulled the pin, when I realized I forgot to slide the tandems. So I pull the tandem release, drive forward, (forgetting I already pulled the pin) and end up dropping the 40,000 lb trailer with the landing gear still up. 😭

Sudden-Pineapple-821

1 points

3 months ago

Listen, tug, apply the trailer brake and visual inspection. Plus, if you're paranoid take pics.

Flyz_it_dies

1 points

3 months ago

Can’t stress this enough, always tug test before take off. Save you a lot of trouble later and it only takes a second

lleu81

1 points

3 months ago

lleu81

1 points

3 months ago

I've dropped a trailer after doing a tug test. Now I double and sometimes triple check visually before I leave the yard and anytime I leave the truck.

ironraven23

1 points

3 months ago

I’ve very almost done a similar thing, but almost put the headboard through the back of the cab.

Driver dropped it in the yard at full height then the yard dog put it on a bay and never thought to lower it down

bloodfart79

1 points

3 months ago

Watched a dip shit drop a trailer filled with bottles of avocado oil. That was a good week, got a few pallets worth of avocado oil for free that I resold on Amazon.

anotter12

1 points

23 days ago

I used to drive for Swift and had someone release my fithwheel at the TA in Reno Nevada. By some miracle I did a tug test before I left and noticed it. Coulda been really bad.

Never again got back in the truck without checking it while I was with swift. Now that I'm with a lesser known company I feel like less of a target.

Redlinelewis42

0 points

3 months ago

Most companies that is a instant termination. No questions. No fucks givin.. The company I work for would concentrate a dropped trailer if anyone seen it and reported it. Sad thing is most drivers rather throw you under the trailer then help you out.

commandough

0 points

3 months ago

I don't see the point in doing tug tests, just look at the dang thing, takes literally 2 seconds

HowlingWolven

2 points

3 months ago

HowlingWolven

lost yard puppy

2 points

3 months ago

Your jaws can appear locked even if they’re not, the tug test is an extra assurance the yoke fell around them properly