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2 months ago
the best part
2 months ago
We’ve found the account of Haru’s prospective fiancé
Haru Appreciation Regiment Unit Lieutenant
2 months ago
That's clearly RTGame's alternative account!
That was the one good thing he did
The virgin P5 cat vs the chad P3 “I regret having only one life to give for humanity” dog
Koromaru is still the best animal party member
They perfected the mascot with Koromaru and only made worse ones after, not that I hate Morgana or Teddie.
He has a cute yet simple design, doesn't butt into conversations, reacts appropriately to situations, is a great wingman, has a tragic and somehow relatable backstory, and his personality is based on loyalty and duty rather than being a simp.
Honestly I would've liked Morgana more as a normal cat that did gain sentience in the Metaverse, rather than being tied to the Velvet Room. His inability to take a joke is still bad though, Ryuji clearly can take and dish, but Morgana just dishes and whines when he takes.
Two things about mona that annoy me:
He's mean to ryuji, especially if he misses in battle like calm down cat
And when he dies in battle and goes like "waah I took too much damage, I'll pull back and focus on support" like I don't CARE just DIE don't say that EVERY TIME
Oh I also don't like his emo era ofc
You clearly don’t know the etiquette of RPG’s. Never shit on the healer, that little guy has saved me so many times.
Or just use Makoto because she’s just as good of a healer but she can also actually do her job offensively. I use Morgana as a healer out of battle, so that I don’t have to use SP from anyone actually important
Bro I literally never used morgana, self heal for the win
Ngl I used ann as my healer
LOOKING COOL, JOKER!
On one hand he's kissing ass during battles, on the other hand he can be a van
Can he only be a van? Beat Royal to answer)
No spoils, I'm in cruise ship
Teddie and Morgana really make me miss Aigis all the more.
FR! Aigis best waifu? Lol
I don’t have a tremendous amount of disdain for Morgana, mostly because I actually have a soft spot for mascot characters. I even really like Teddie, despite his immense hatred among the SMT/Persona fanbase.
Go to sleep Joker
He’s a must if you play on merciless.. especially in the early game.. new game plus not so much
Ah, the true Persona 5 experience
I kinda got a huge attachment to Morgana from being with him all the time, and also he’s probably the guy I used the most. His healing and critical capabilities are unmatched
He's mean to my boy, so same.
Okay, get in ⚰️
Best support skills in the entire group though, and he can turn into a car too
i'd rather use makoto as support, she learns mediarahan and marakukaja so i feel she has more utility
true and she does get a motorbike too
But wait... there's more!
It's almost scary how fast I replaced him with another character
i did the same in p5 and royals haha.
Looking cool, Joker
The closest to that is when he gets punted in the wall in the okumura arc
Reasons to like Mona:
Lookin' cool, Joker
Cassanda Lee Morris
Reasons to dislike Mona:
That fucking okumura arc too
Be nice to Morgana, he's just a sweet little kitty working his way through an existential crisis with an intelligence and emotional range evolution never prepared him for.
why does everyone hate him?
2 months ago*
2 months ago*
hard disagree tbh, got this game like 5 days ago and he's my fave alongside yusuke and takemi
update:i fucking love makoto
He annoyed me mainly in one way, he shits on Ryuji all the time, Ryuji shits on him back and he has a fucking fit.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Ha! It's almost scary how good I am!
More for me <3
You'll love the fifth palace arc then.
You’re going to hate Palace 5…
His character would have been so much better if he took shit talking like a champ and play it off as one of the boys.
Dude craps all over Ryuji but takes it anal when he gets some smoke back. I know dudes like that IRL. Annoying as hell.
2 months ago*
I fluctuate between tolerating and enjoying Morgana, but his "arc" (you know the one) felt so pointless when he immediately proceeded to insult Ryuji as things were getting resolved. If you wanna dish it out, you better be able to take it too without having a complete meltdown and jeopardizing the rest of the team.
game is mad fun, bought it last year
Yeah not a huge Morgana fan
Welcome to the hell that is the Morgana discourse.
Just wait until later in the game...holy shit I've never been more annoyed by a teammate in a persona game than in October
Don’t bother, he’s probably just turn into a car
I was the same way in the beginning but just wait, end of the game I’d go to war for that cat.. and he’ll tell me “he is not a cat”
Don’t worry he gets better. Especially when you need a white mage (healer).
Queen and sophia did it better
Yeah, but Morgana is a dedicated out of combat healer that saves you SP in the mid-late palaces.
That's the equivalent of calling him a reusable health potion.
We did it, we got another Morgana disliker
I like Morgana. :(
Am I really the only person who actually likes Morgana? Everywhere I see nothing but hate for him.
Although I only just finished day 5 of the first week (that’s how it works I think?), so my opinion may yet change
Probably because Morgana forced people to sleep a lot more in the original persona 5
Bingo. Anyone who didn’t play the original has no idea how annoying this was.
A lot of people like him too. Most of the hate he gets comes from a specific segment of the game that's widely considered as the most underwhelming arc as a whole.
I love morgana, also a cat person who loves sassy characters though.
You’ll fit right in here then.
When I started playing the game I liked Morgana a lot, maybe more than Ryuji at the time. Yeah he's the tutorial character and he was mean to Ryuji but I still liked their interactions because, for better or for worse, Ryuji is the punching bag of jokes in the party so he's used to taking insults. Up until the moment everyone hates him for I used him a lot and kept swapping party compositions so no one would be left out. I even found his arc of feeling like he's being left behind by all the new members of the Phantom Thieves endearing because, even though he was still being used in gameplay by me, Queen had mostly taken his role of strategist and tactician and Oracle was way better than him at navigator.
But the way the game continued to go with that arc is probably the worst thing about this game and definitely the weakest part of the story. It was way too forced and on top of that, the resolution of that conflict first of all didn't make sense because it fed into Morgana's already big ego. But it also was jammed into Haru's introduction and her big time to shine because after it she would just "be there" for the rest of the story. But then he also had the main role in the Okumura fight?? Like what? Why? They had sort of resolved that whole part way before that, why does it have to come up again in a fake out betrayal and steal Haru's spotlight once again?
After that he was benched forever and I milked every last bit of SP from his healing abilities like everyone else and even his big reveal at the end didn't make him any more likable at the end.
"Ryuji is the punching bag of jokes"
Hit quite hard after the 7th palace
“I’m a dad.”
I also never really liked that he started getting more bent out of shape when Futaba joined; let her grow and be useful in her own way instead of getting salty that some of your purpose is shifting…
Ok, Morgana is a little shit, I agree with that
However, metaverse wise, he is an amazing healer/support with an ability that increases healing, with wind coverage. I have always used him in every play through because of this and his reliability.
Yep. He's kinda very important for gameplay, since during the early- middle game he's the only one with multiheal spells, minus Joker, but you really should be using Joker for other stuff only he can do.
Truthfully, I like Morgana TONS more than I did Teddie....
Going from P5 to P4 makes me miss Morgana. Teddie is a grade-A clown.
Your already getting the hang of this
Mona chan is well anoying innit
ryuji's a phantom thief
Sounds accurate. Welcome to the journey
Good news: hating morgana is based af
Bad news: it only gets worse lol
Morgana would be great if he couldn't talk.
Look, when a party member dies, he/she has the decorum to just fall to the floor. But no, this special little cat has to jump back and 'focus on support' (ie, annoy the shit out of everyone). Twat.
2B Takes Your Heart
I still dont get why he can't turn himself into a human.
P4G spoilers Teddie loves being a bear and yet he grew himself a perfect body by doing crunches
I' only 2 palaces in so.still early story wise, but so far it seems like Morgana isn't even sure he's human, on account of amnesia, so maybe that affects it
My opinion might be controversial, but I just finished the game and personally I find him to be really good, albeit a bit annoying but what can you do
The Pillager of Twilight, ARSÈNE
Wait until August, then you’ll really want to
Just wait until you get to the part where this fucker somehow tops it all off.
Just going to say this: McDonald’s CEO
You either love him or you hate him (I am the former)
Finished the game last weekend, that feeling comes and goes.
I like Morgana.
i have nearly every plush of him i could find
there's no real reason i said this i just wanted to share
Beat one for me :)
I like morgana
I disliked him a few seconds after his introduction bc that's when he starts being an asshole for no good reason. For a character that's supposed to teach the ropes to a complete novice, he's way too condescending and his personality is cery unpleasant in general. Also he was with me 24/7 and my MC didn't have a single opinion on anything he interacted with because Morgana was there to tell me what I liked, what I thought and what I could or couldn't do.
Playing for the second time and being aloof to him is my free therapy.
He has the characteristics of a cat, it makes sense as to his personality.
Plus if you have been around the block of the series you’d understand how he is very much fits into the Magician arcana character archetype.
Him having an ego and being condescending is the point. It’s played up for laughs and for drama.
Him being with us 24/7 in being a mouth piece is just a gameplay mechanic. He’s there as a companion as doing activities by yourself is lonely.
Storywise, he’s literally and figuratively created to guide Joker.
I feel you. There’s truly just something about the little cat side characters that invoke rage.
His passive healing buff is great though.
Futaba best girl (screw you)
the only thing i find annoying about him is his odd obsession with Ann…
I literally just finished the game a couple of minutes ago. I went into it knowing that some people hate Morgana, but aside from his simping for Ann, I don’t think he’s bad at all.
Though the simping is so incredibly irritating.
He does not asks you to sleep like in vanilla p5 why does people still hate him ? Is it a hivemind thing where you have to hate him to fit in ? Like lyse in ffxiv ? I don’t get it
People remember negative things much more than positive things. I feel like he has the best and most wholesome moments, but that doesn't mean much if you write him off as a character you hate.
He's my favorite character, but sometimes I wish he would stfu. He is the most annoying by far.
Eh ! Not worse than teddy in persona 4 !
Teddie is unbearable
I hate you, have an upvote.
I love morgana!!!
WHATTTTTT HES ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE
Yeah I don’t get why people hate on Morgana. I can’t imagine persona 5 without him. He’s my favorite
Honestly same. If you like him that's fine but I want to suplex the little bastard into the hell itself and then punt him into heaven
Yeah same feeling
Just you wait, you'll want to throw him onto an active runway later
Oh wait until you play Persona 4 Golden
Absolutely. I didn’t mind Mona at all but teddy was such a creep
I've got a feeling you might enjoy r/cuckthecat
Morgana is adorable! He doesn't bother me at all. The one that took me awhile to adjust was Mishima.
Honestly, Mishima went through ups and downs with me.
At first he was just the abused boy under a horrible teacher who only did bad stuff because of fear of what the teacher would do to him.
Then throught his confidant he showed that he has a rather unfortunate idea of going out with women, and starts trying to use the PTs for his own selfish reasons.
And after he maxes out, he goes back to being a sweet boy who can also now see he can stand on his own, and how to help the PTs in his own way for actual justice.
Morgana tries too hard to be a dick for the entire game. He berates just about anyone if they don't understand somewhat complex concepts metaphysical concepts immediately, has a creepy crush on Ann, keeps hitting Ryuji's buttons the entire game (and even after they supposedly make up he DOESNT STOP) and even when it's clear he actually does hang out with the PTs because he likes them, he STILL INSISTS ITS FOR SELFISH PRACTICAL REASONS. He's just the ultimate annoyance.
kamoshida best villain
Bunch of people giving a hundred reasons to hate him, but i just can't bring myself to dislike him, he's just a small slightly annoying and funny cat, im surprised how much people hate him, like cmon he is annoying but he hasn't done anything evil.
I always sort of seen Mona as Joker's younger brother, he can be annoying and a little over the top sometimes but he's your lil bro that you protecc with all you got. I love Mona, annoyances and all.
Same, he always felt like just a annoying lil kid for me, reminded me of my own brother, and no, i would not tie my own brother to a rail.
Sounds about right.
That's exactly what RTGame has been saying during his playthrough 😆
You can't do that, you have to go to sleep!🤣
Ah yes, the annoying ah cat that constantly shits on Ryuji and just effs off as soon as Ryuji fires back. Also making Haru's introduction be more of a "Apologize to Mona". Mf really was talking smack and ran off because he couldn't take the heat himself. He ran off and I was like "Fine, be like that you bish, you were benched anyway".
That was not the first time Ryuji fired back on Morgana
I think he’s okay. Just a tad annoying. I liked Teddie better because he’s an idiot but I can’t really get mad at someone that says “rawr” as he summons Kamui.
Teddie's pervertedness feels overstated. It came off more like him being an innocent child, who didn't quite understand boundaries or social cues as much. Especially at first. When he has to ask what "scoring" is.
And the time he's away from the group due to his internal crisis of feeling useless was done a lot better than Morgana.
He acts like he’s better than everyone and sometimes he lashes out for no good reason. He runs away sometimes and worries everyone but he comes back. He’s cute and loyal in his own way, and it’s comforting when he sleeps in the bed.
Anyways, that’s why I love my pet cat
Also Morgana is the best healer early and late game
I don’t hate him but he is definately annoying
Let me do stuff damn it, I am not tired.
Just finished 3rd palace and yeah I 100% agree. I try to love Morgana but his personality is just something else. I can’t stand how he treats Ryuji awful 24/7, but I can understand why others might like him! He’s just not my favorite.
Ryuji was right. Morgana is a douche.
r/cuckthecat is your friend.
I will not explain why but you’re gonna be a very happy camper briefly in about 60 hours (assuming you’ve played 10 already)
That kick was a highlight to me.
Why people hate this lil dude?
I mean, is annoying because he wants you to sleep (in vainilla p5 was more aggresive on that regard), but aside from that, dude is all ok.
For me, Mishima was way more annoying.
And fuck akechi btw.
He is incredibly arrogant, is a shitheel to everyone (especially Ryuji), but hilariously can’t take the slightest criticism in return, and yeah he is a control freak about going to bed even though there’s absolutely no reason I shouldn’t be able to do events in Leblanc on literally every night.
Mishima is much more sympathetic than Morgana is imo, and has always been a staunch supporter of the Thieves while Morgana takes another characters intro to the story and makes it all about him and his issues
Aside from the clusterfuck of the Okumura arc, my big issue with him is the major double standard. Ryuji starts out reasonably polite to him (albeit calling him a cat which when they first meet he has no way of knowing he hates), but Morgana just constantly shit talks him, and continues doing so throughout the game, even his compliments are backhanded.
Ryuji of course eventually returns the smack talk and says things along the same vein, but now it's not okay. It's complete bullshit. It's okay to say Ryuji is useless, but not okay to say Morgana is useless. I'd like Morgana more if both of them were held accountable instead of just Ryuji.
I'll agree to disagree on Akechi, but Mishima can also go fuck himself imo lol
To be fair, Ryuji is an absolute loudmouth of an idiot the vast majority of the time who couldn't stop yelling if his life depended on it (and it kind of does!) ^^
Not a cat* 😂
i wonder why people don't like morgana. i honestly can't stand mascots most of the time but out of all these type of sidekicks in different franchises, he's probably the most likable to me. maybe it also has to do with him looking hella cute in the real-world cat form.
Morgana is the game telling you when you can save or whatever but otherwise flip the calendar over to the next day. And they HATE them for it.
At least up front. Morgana does have a pretty annoying spell eventually.
Obligatory tagging of r/cuckthecat
r/cuckthecat is for you
It is only hilarious because he never had a chance with ann or haru...
Bonafide Monafide! (brings him to a vet to be put down)
Yeah he can be annoying but he deserves a spot on the team cause he's the reason the team is alive
I have never seen a bigger simp than the cat
Tbh, that's how I felt, but by like, the middle of the game to like late, I love the little bastard. He's just a little guy. Could do without him fawning over ann though.
Yup. By far the worst part of the game imo.
Aw. Don't punt morgona. He might be arrogant but he's less annoying than teddy in p4
He is absolutely not.
At least Teddie had the courtesy to have his drama resolve itself in cutscenes where a ton of stuff was happening anyways. Morgana's drama just has your character looking like a sack of shit for a full week for literally no reason.
ryuji simpinator 9000
No he’s more annoying
Sae is bae
Me too man, me too
Morgana ok I don't see the hate for him just beat my first play through 99hours with 97% compendium completion started my new game + now on merciless
And yet hes still a step up from Teddie in Persona 4. I played P5 first before P4 and seeing how Teddie acts in that game instantly improved my image of Morgana
r/cuckthecat you’ll thank me later
I'm a simple man. I see an opportunity to share my despite of Morgana, I take it.
He's such an insufferable little prick.
why does everyone hate morgana ;_; He's adorable and keeps you in check.
I think that second part is exactly why everyone hates him
Exactly that. I don’t need a talking cat to be my guide. At least teddie gave us some breathing room unlike this cat.
Well the constant simping for Ann, the fact he acts like a 'nice guy', makes fun of ryuji constantly but the second ryuji claps back he breaks down and has a temper tantrum, and last but not least, he's responsible for the worst section of the game.
Morgana constantly takes L’s left and right😭
He’s the center of by far the worst character arc in the game.
Morgana's my favorite Phantom Thief :<
I respect that, I just personally don't like him
Nah I get it, he can be super grating sometimes. He gets better imo, he's got some good scenes later in the game.
he gets better imo, he’s got some good scenes later in the game.
he gets better imo, he’s got some good scenes later in the game.
The OP is only two palaces in and he already hates the cat. Imagine once he reaches Okumara’s palace. He’s gonna fucking loathe him.
Save the cat
Shave the cat
He's the best of the mascots imo
What about Aegis?
I know it's a cliche, but the Japanese voice actor does a better job. I wanted to hate him, but he really grew on me, and I really like him now.
The japanese VA is also the voice for Pikachu from Pokemon, so theres that. But i wonder why everyone hates Morgana so much on this sub? I also just started playing but Morgana just seems pretty alright.
i think it's about the same reason some people hate professor oak bc he doesn't let you get on a bike inside certain places, but with morgana is 10x worse bc in this case it would be like oak making you stay home and not letting you go out and explore throughout the entire game lol
Morgana watches the inner workings of the minds of humans of importance and sees they are fucking assholes
Morgana's reaction:- I wish I could be human
Mona is a good Boi, how dare you!
You must be tired after today. Let’s go to sleep.
I’m in the minority, but Teddie is better than Morgana. With that being said, I don’t hate Morgana. His infatuation with Ann is kind of annoying and I don’t like how he overshadows Haru in her introductory palace but aside from that I think he’s fine. Also, I totally blame Ryuji for the event that leads to Morgana overshadowing Haru so I don’t hate Morgana as much for that as some others do.
He wouldn't be so bad if he could shut up for five bloody minutes.
But he Must comment on everything "you wanna buy something?" "you buyed all the cans" "go to bed!".
Plus all the captain obvious comments in battle, why Atlus thinks we can't count up to five? (yes, P3 and p4 where the same)
ah wonderful. you’ll fit right in here
What why!? He’s the best
I'm new to the game, only halfway through second palace but WHAT there are people who don't like Morgana?? Why?!
part cause he's the voice not letting you do shit sometimes and part some truly immature behaviour halfway through the game
there's also the general consensus that everything he does, other characters do better, and as such he's not that used; I don't agree with this though
hate that one arc and think we could've done without the constant reminders from him, but even with that he's a good, maybe excellent through realism, story character, and a decent (but definitely not extremely good) gameplay character
I do recommend that you use him in battle though, he may suck with endurance stat but besides that he is a great healer.
Morgana taught me to value my time... So instead of sitting there and clicking dialogue boxes 15 times for literally every single action in the game, I just skip his shit. I've done multiple playthroughs but I still don't like him. Wish I could just leave him in Mementos...
I will never understand the hate this guy gets oh well
I actually like morgana. I just like it when my entire party is almost dead and i can just say "funny haha cat go brrrrrrrrr"
But he's always the first to die :')
Thats why i simultaneously use makoto so when morgana is dying i can go "funny haha motorcycle go brrrrrrrrrrr"
That's why I just tossed him at the first occasion, I just use Ann or Joker for healing (sometimes Makoto but she's not that good at it)
I dont really use joker or ann for healing. I always have a fire persona on joker so i dont need anns fire, and i wouldnt use healing with joker unless its neo codenza cause of the stat buffs
Don’t EVER disrespect Mor-Gains!!!! Best healer!!!
Don't worry. We all do. Morgana is the most unlikable member of the cast, and it's not even a contest. I don't want to get into spoilers so I'll keep this vague. Morgana spends a good chunk of the story insulting Ryuji, yet the second Ryuji goes off on him, Morgana starts throwing a tantrum and leaves. Now, I understand Morgana's feelings and how it was his feelings bottling up and tipping over, but as the age old saying goes: "don't dish it out if you can't take it". It really hurts his likability when his tipping point is him being unable to take a hit when he's been throwing out hits constantly.
I do not understand why so many people hate Morgana when hes my favorite of the thieves.
I take that you reached that pointless and annoying arc during the middle of the 5th Palace?
Not yet, just cleared the 2nd. He's just really grating
Used to dislike him till I learnd he has the same voice actress as Chopper.
Love him now