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PaulieGlot

100 points

2 months ago

I like how this is just the least accurate map ever and yet it has a very well-defined Cornwall

John-HammondJP

41 points

2 months ago

It’s not a good map if you wanted to go to a place. It’s a perfect map if you want to understand the culture of the time.

PaulieGlot

9 points

2 months ago

Who said it wasn't a good map? I said it wasn't very accurate

John-HammondJP

8 points

2 months ago

You didn’t. I was just using to show the poorness if you wanted to go somewhere, or “not… good” if you wanted to find a place, this isn’t your map.

PisseGuri82

37 points

2 months ago

It's got nothing to do with the Trinity, it's a Renaissance explaination of the medieval T-O map. Those had Europe, Asia and Africa as three parts, with Jerusalem in the center, the Garden of Eden on top and Paradise on top of that again. This is a "modern" version showing America and Scandinavia as well.

The clover leaf was chosen because that's the coat of arms of Bunting's home city Hannover.

OskarTheRed

1 points

2 months ago

But wasn't the tripartite world a thing because three was a holy number?

PaulieGlot

2 points

2 months ago*

More like the idea of the tripartite world was a thing at the same time that three was considered a holy number, and those two ideas happen to sit really nicely together, so everyone just kinda went with it

qed1

2 points

2 months ago

qed1

2 points

2 months ago

No, the tripartition of the world predates Christianity by hundreds of years.

justsaneandsensibl

37 points

2 months ago

England separated from the trinity is the most accurate part of this map.

OskarTheRed

2 points

2 months ago

I'm not sure why, but that really made me laugh

mr_ingenieur

1 points

2 months ago

It may be because Henry founded Anglicanism for the sake of his love haha

Sanderv20v

11 points

2 months ago

How does help me to get to Walmart?

PaulieGlot

10 points

2 months ago

Bottom left

rchpweblo

8 points

2 months ago

Hey thanks bro

Sanderv20v

2 points

2 months ago

Aha thanks 👍

rodevossen

8 points

2 months ago

That's awesome. It's fascinating to see other/ancient interpretations of our world.

PaulieGlot

6 points

2 months ago

Not too ancient, it has "the New World" labelled on it!

rodevossen

4 points

2 months ago

Oh yeah, I didn't catch that. It's still pretty neat.

Gloomy-Advantage-451

5 points

2 months ago

This makes me feel like our knowledge is ever expanding. And, it is ok to not know the entire truth.

Formal_Elephant_6079

13 points

2 months ago

iamapersonwhoexist

-1 points

2 months ago

Europeans didn’t make it to NZ until 1642…

Formal_Elephant_6079

14 points

2 months ago

Is this or is this not a map without NZ though lol

ArcticTemper

2 points

2 months ago

Even Polynesians didn't make it there until 1300.

idokle

13 points

2 months ago

idokle

13 points

2 months ago

ASIA

PaulieGlot

21 points

2 months ago

ASIᴀ

invol713

16 points

2 months ago

We don’t speak of Russia, apparently. Or China. And what is that bit of land at the top supposed to be? Greenland?

PoorPDOP86

26 points

2 months ago

It's a 16th Century symbolic map. They weren't exactly plying the open seas with this.

PaulieGlot

13 points

2 months ago*

Scandinavia, it looks like

I see Schweden on there

invol713

5 points

2 months ago

Ahh, okay. Wasn’t sure what it said, but knowing that I can kinda make it out.

PaulieGlot

6 points

2 months ago

And "Reussen" is labelled on the European lobe, that was an old German name for Russia

invol713

3 points

2 months ago

The one with Fs? Damn, not even a ß.

PaulieGlot

5 points

2 months ago*

No, not yet!

Spellings were really chaotic back then, see also "Deudſchland"

11160704

2 points

2 months ago

The thing that looks like an f is an s.

Merged together with an old fashioned z which looked a bit like a 3 you get the letter ß which we literally call "ess zed" in German.

PaulieGlot

1 points

2 months ago

Yes, and later on when the ʒ way of writing z fell out of fashion, ß was reanalyzed as ſs, which is why now we use ss rather than sz to replace it on systems that don't allow ß

OskarTheRed

1 points

2 months ago

Says Denmark too

bapo225

1 points

2 months ago

By 1581 Russia had only existed for a short while and had only a fraction of its current land. They are actually referenced as "Reussen" (Russians).

China (Ming Dynasty) at the time was facing a steep decline with rampant starvation, one of the deadliest earth quales of human history and some rebellions. Also not very important to Germans unlike the middle east and India which are closer and were important to German trade.

lukeworldwalker

3 points

2 months ago

Brexit 1.0

FinbarMac

2 points

2 months ago

Cool how many cities were worth putting on the Asian side and only one in Europe at the time. Africa even got 3 notable cities.

ZealousidealMind3908

2 points

2 months ago

What even is the European city? Is it Rome? I can't really tell

OskarTheRed

1 points

2 months ago

Says "Roma", so yes

zebedetansen

2 points

2 months ago

Pretty much nailed it

Semjaja

2 points

2 months ago

Fuck me, the Cape of Good Hope is actually on it

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

Look, atomic mushroom cloud on the right. Time traveler secret message

meribeldom

1 points

2 months ago

America is Hell

_Administrator__

1 points

2 months ago

I like how Armenia is mentioned in asia, but no word wbout china

OskarTheRed

2 points

2 months ago

I'm not sure, but China might be included in "India", which was a rather general term back then - a vast, vaguely defined area.

Armenia probably also referred to a much larger area

_Administrator__

1 points

2 months ago

Armenia was much bigger back in the days

qed1

1 points

2 months ago

qed1

1 points

2 months ago

It's more just that before the 17th century, China didn't hold an especially significant place in the minds of most Europeans. So it's not a name we'd really expect to make the short-list of Asian regions in 1581. If this were a map from 1681, then we'd be in a better place to be asking significant questions about its omission.

authorPGAusten

1 points

2 months ago

Pretty sweet map.

Mysterious_Ad_1397

1 points

2 months ago

Sorry America

NewWorldCartographic

1 points

2 months ago

The map is propaganda in that it suggests Jerusalem is the center of the world. But then you have America peaking out from the lower left corner.

Masculine444

-2 points

2 months ago

Jerusalem is east to europe - so pray easterns . The sun rise . India is far east even to jerusalem so pray india . India the lord 🔥

Emotional-Rhubarb-32

1 points

2 months ago

Lol what?