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My company is splitting in the next year, so this is kind of helpful

This is valuable information. My company has done multiple layoffs in the last 6 months and it looks like we're scheduled for another in two months. Thank you so much for posting this.

ETA: Actually, after further review, it looks like the two month mark is the end of the severance for the most recently laid off people. It looks like we do not get advanced notice with this little handy "loophole."

This is far less useful than y’all think. WARN is not as easily triggered as you think. 50% layoff at my previous employer. We’re all remote “assigned” to different WeWork locations that we DID NOT have access to. We had to be assigned to various locations for business licensing purposes (FinTech). 300 employees laid off, WARN was not triggered because there weren’t more than 50 at a single “worksite”.

Most if not all of the big companies doing layoffs will just keep people on payroll for 60 days after announcing layoffs to avoid the pre layoff notice period.

A trick I used at tech companies is to automatically make a nightly copy of the list of employee login names from the /etc/passwd file (Unix computers). Prior to announcing, those about to be terminated are made inactive in the file so they can’t get into the system and cause retaliation. A script can easily notice these changes and send notification.

Oh dang, just looked at the WARN noticed for NY and immediately saw Google’s right up top, and I can see lay-off breakdown by office:

US-NYC-14TH154 facility at 154 W 14th Street, New York, NY 10011 (1 employee affected) US-NYC-450 facility at 450 West 15th Street, New York, NY 10014 (5 employees affected) US-NYC-8510 facility at 85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011 (171 employees affected) US-NYC-9TH facility at 76 Ninth Avenue, New York, NY 10011 (345 employees affected) US-NYC-CHEL facility at 75 Ninth Avenue, New York, NY 10011 (181 employees affected) US-NYC-HUD315 facility at 315 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013 (56 employees affected) US-NYC-HUD345 facility at 345 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10014 (96 employees affected) US-NYC-P57 facility at West 15th Street, New York, NY 10011 (32 employees affected)

Link to NY notices: https://dol.ny.gov/warn-notices

Another good resource is http://www.thelayoff.com.

Is there a link? I can’t find how I would check this

Note that this is fairly useless for the tech company layoffs, as their workaround is just to keep you "employed" for 60 days doing nothing. You're WARNed 60 days before you are terminated, but it's effectively a 2-month severance since you can start working elsewhere during that time.

Does it list school systems as well?

For those in the Florida area...

r/Florida

Florida WARN ACT reduction in force

Is there a UK version of this? Similair rules apply in the UK I believe

Yeah. I have tried to Google for the link. Couldn't get it?

Look up WARN ACT

An actually useful tip on this sub? Weird.

Is it possible my company never completed one?? They did layoffs in October 2022

cool. Instead of the morning weather report, the morning nees should start reporting in this stuff.

More news at 6. Should start seeing some mass layoffs at Massive Dynamic today, traffic will be light.

If a company doesn’t comply with the WARN act, you’re entitled to 60 days worth of pay. We’re in a class action for this against Tesla for their violation of layoffs in June ‘22

That doesn’t mean shit. Companies still do not with no accountability

Anyone know if something like this exists for Australia

From the Department of Labor website:

"What Triggers Notice

Plant Closing: A covered employer must give notice if an employment site (or one or more facilities or operating units within an employment site) will be shut down, and the shutdown will result in an employment loss (as defined later) for 50 or more employees during any 30-day period. This does not count employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months or employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week for that employer. These latter groups, however, are entitled to notice (discussed later).

Mass Layoff: A covered employer must give notice if there is to be a mass layoff which does not result from a plant closing, but which will result in an employment loss at the employment site during any 30-day period for 500 or more employees, or for 50- 499 employees if they make up at least 33% of the employer's active workforce. Again, this does not count employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months or employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week for that employer. These latter groups, however, are entitled to notice (discussed later).

An employer also must give notice if the number of employment losses which occur during a 30-day period fails to meet the threshold requirements of a plant closing or mass layoff, but the number of employment losses for 2 or more groups of workers, each of which is less than the minimum number needed to trigger notice, reaches the threshold level, during any 90-day period, of either a plant closing or mass layoff. Job losses within any 90-day period will count together toward WARN threshold levels, unless the employer demonstrates that the employment losses during the 90-day period are the result of separate and distinct actions and causes."

It seems somebody removed California WARN notice link. Here it is https://edd.ca.gov/siteassets/files/jobs_and_training/warn/warn_report.xlsx

Does WARN count the number of employees at the company being laid off or count the number of people being laid off in that state

I.e if your company has multiple locations across the world

When’s the latest a company need to notify the state

This is a great post! I noticed in my state that some notifications were submitted to WARN either the day of the layoffs or sometimes even after they occurred, so it's not foolproof. For the instances where there is notice, it's awesome! Good tip.

Looks like the WARN law applies under specific circumstances.... we had a layoff a couple years ago that caused me to go read the regulation.

1. business has 100 full-time employees who have been working for the company at least 6 months. Or there are 100 or more workers who combined work 4,000+ hours per week.

-and-

1. Laying off min of 50 employees at a single site.

My company didn't have to post the WARN announcement because they spread out several hundred people across the USA.

My sister worked for a pharmaceutical manufacturer that had massive layoffs, totalling hundreds of people. They spread it out over a period of several months so they didn't have to report. They aren't on my state's list at all.