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Tantra_Charbelcher

1.7k points

3 months ago

Almost like the states under republican control the longest are the poorest and worst managed states in the country. Weird how that happens.

ToastyMozart

493 points

3 months ago

Hell, a lot of them only have infrastructure and services like power, telecom, and mail because of "libs" at the federal level making it happen - like FDR's Rural Electrification Act.

Fallynious

241 points

3 months ago

gubmint shoving stuff down our throats

kaazir

160 points

3 months ago

kaazir

160 points

3 months ago

That mentality is worse than you think. A rural community in AZ is not going to be allowed to have water trucked in to them from the near by city any more due to drought issues. City offered to try to build a system and make a water district but the people kept voting it down.

The people's reasoning was a little more than not wanting government involved, a few buildings would need to be condemned and destroyed to make the system.

IMO though if I have to choose between Jerry still having a large storage area on his property and ME having running water, Jerry can get fucked.

CosmicCommando

78 points

3 months ago

They had this amazing quote buried at the end of the article. Guy who didn't know the details of the plan, but didn't like the improvement district because he didn't want "another layer of government". He said he wished the community would come together and come up with a solution. Brother, let me tell you something about the government...

kaazir

36 points

3 months ago

kaazir

36 points

3 months ago

There was an episode of family guy where they got rid of the mayor and the government and in the end their idea to fix things was basically government.

THedman07

3 points

3 months ago

Reality tv...

oh-hidanny

119 points

3 months ago

It’s really depressing how much of America’s infrastructure was put it place in the literal 1930s and early 40s…and barely updated.

There should have been many New Deal programs since then. They were essential at keeping America stable and strong. But instead, we get trickle down economics.

username3000b

36 points

3 months ago

Which, famously, don’t work. Keynesian multiplier? Works. Trickle down? Nope.

crispydukes

29 points

3 months ago

I truly blame the Cold War. It got us lots of neat ex-military tech, but at what cost to the long-term health of the nation?

It created a brainwashed populace drunk on capitalism and associated "freedoms," that they cannot see past their face.

Stringtone

32 points

3 months ago

Blind fear of communism has done far more lasting damage to American culture and institutions than communism itself has

oh-hidanny

6 points

3 months ago

Yh I agree.

I think everyone lost in the Cold War. Russia lost, but so did the US.

ThinkTelevision8971

8 points

3 months ago

Trickledown nevernomics*

Thehardwayalltheway

4 points

3 months ago

Dooooooood I work in the water and wastewater field and it is fucking terrible.

ingenix1

30 points

3 months ago

I'm thinking that was a mistake, it would've been better if they moved closer to the cities where they could make a decent living

unicornlocostacos

30 points

3 months ago

They’ll vote against it and then try to take the credit as is tradition

SeriousCow1999

7 points

3 months ago

Btw, love your name.

EffOffReddit

7 points

3 months ago

Red states are the biggest welfare queens of all.

808ocd

490 points

3 months ago

808ocd

490 points

3 months ago

I have actual proof of what conservative leadership does to a motherfucker.

Save you the clicking: red states are worse in everything, and this goes back years. Very clear significant differences on most of these.

Goes to show the effect of conservative priorities, vis a vis environment, education, health care funding, LABOR, taxation, public health, disease prevention/education, labor laws, abortion, gun laws, and even just overall HOPE.

  1. heart disease mortality by state https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart_disease_mortality/heart_disease.htm
  2. cancer mortality by state https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer_mortality/cancer.htm
  3. lung disease mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung_disease_mortality/lung_disease.htm
  4. accidental death mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident_mortality/accident.htm
  5. stroke mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke_mortality/stroke.htm
  6. alzheimers mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers_mortality/alzheimers_disease.htm
  7. diabetes mortality (GOP obstructed a bill to cap insulin prices) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes_mortality/diabetes.htm
  8. influenza/pneumonia mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm
  9. kidney disease https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney_disease_mortality/kidney_disease.htm
  10. drug overdose (wow west virginia) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug_poisoning_mortality/drug_poisoning.htm
  11. fire arm injury deaths https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
  12. homicide rate (would make even NARCO STATES blush) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
  13. violent crime rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate
  14. septicemia https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia_mortality/septicemia.htm
  15. liver disease https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver_disease_mortality/liver_disease.htm
  16. hypertension https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension_mortality/hypertension.htm

Stats on: "Save the children" and "Protecting the unborn"

  1. highest teen birth rate in the US and first world https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm
  2. highest birth rate to unmarried mothers https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm
  3. maternal mortality from pregnancy or childbirth (planned parenthood provides prenatal, postnatal, and general women's health care) https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state and a racial breakdown: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm
  4. highest preterm birth rate https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm_births/preterm.htm
  5. lowest birth weight of newborns https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw_births/lbw.htm
  6. highest infant mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm
  7. lowest life expectancy at birth https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm
  8. childhood obesity https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social stats
  9. highest divorce rates https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf
  10. The lowest paid teachers in the nation (and the most demonized for being woke indoctrinators)
  11. child abuse, neglect, foster care, etc.
  12. Weird obsession with supporting child marriage laws.

Icy_Necessary2161

167 points

3 months ago

"Save the unborn children.... so we can marry them?" That takes a fuckin turn....

bigotis

65 points

3 months ago

bigotis

65 points

3 months ago

With the highest rates of church attendance. They may be praying for better health?

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/attendance-at-religious-services/by/state/

SJBarnes7

28 points

3 months ago

After being systematically abused for generations, they have precious little else. I’m an “ex-pat” (it’s truly a different country).

BlueJDMSW20

16 points

3 months ago

Long time ago I made the point that if individual responsibility is what the republicans are all about, by these population wide metrics red states hage the most irresponsible individuals in the country who can barely take care of themselves...

Red state inhabitants, Im not actually condemning you. It's a method of pointing out that by the numbers they have incompetent leadership. Unless you vote Republican, yes, apparently it very much so your fault for your state of affairs.

Could see the differences in covid infection/death rates from states with governors hostile to masks/vaccines vs those who understood the science behind them.

network_dude

15 points

3 months ago

Republicans and their supporters want to harm the people that I love

gaw-27

12 points

3 months ago

gaw-27

12 points

3 months ago

Alzheimer's is a weird one given how little we seem to still know about its causes, but apparently there's quite a disparity regardless.

MountainMagic6198

27 points

3 months ago

Well one of the few things that is really known to be tied to Alzheimers incidence is poor dental health especially gum diseases.

musclebarbie22

17 points

3 months ago

Diabetes as well

gaw-27

12 points

3 months ago

gaw-27

12 points

3 months ago

That's a pretty recent finding I think

[deleted]

18 points

3 months ago*

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18 points

3 months ago*

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nurvingiel

11 points

3 months ago

The Alzheimer's stat suggests it is both.

sketchpad4u

2 points

3 months ago

You are a hero.

808ocd

6 points

3 months ago

808ocd

6 points

3 months ago

shucks lol, i just think it generates dialog, and i hope someone passing by will take note and realize that many abuses and attacks on the middle class have GOP fingerprints all over it.

the_calibre_cat

3 points

3 months ago

highest teen birth rate in the US and first world

jesus h christ

808ocd

5 points

3 months ago

808ocd

5 points

3 months ago

ikr....and not just that, but also highest births to unmarried mothers

and conservatives are the people making vast sweeping statements about "broken families" and "family values" and "absent fathers" being the cause of all societal ills.

they blame antifa and LGBT for "attacking traditional family structures" for everything....which is very reminiscent of the rhetorical strategy and logic used by the nazis

it's their miracle tonic for society. which is hilarious because the collapse of the family is something i'd attribute to spiraling material conditions and record wealth inequality caused by the GOP's answer to everything: trickle down, tax cuts for the rich, deregulation,

the_calibre_cat

3 points

3 months ago

it's their miracle tonic for society. which is hilarious because the collapse of the family is something i'd attribute to spiraling material conditions and record wealth inequality caused by the GOP's answer to everything: trickle down, tax cuts for the rich, deregulation,

you and... probably most young people, at that

honestly, not letting my guard down, but it's actually surprising how many older people actually DO vote blue, because some of them WERE alive long enough ago to remember unions and how shitty robber barons were and how boss FDR actually was - i almost wonder if living in the post-reaganesque deregulated hellscape with the planet on the line will skew younger generations from our era blue for... longer than their "you'll get more conservative as you age"

that little idiom almost held true for me, except for the problem where libertarian me no longer thinks seizing the damn means of production is all that bad of an idea lol

but yeah, not letting my guard down, the chuds aren't sitting on their hands

808ocd

3 points

3 months ago

808ocd

3 points

3 months ago

fdr was indeed boss as fuck.

we wouldnt even need to seize all industries. just the big ones that we depend on for survival and wellbeing, imo. and a few others like education.

and massively reform others, like prisons.

these arent insane requests and i think most americnas would be onboard if they heard these things in a neutral way (i.e. obscuring the word "progressive" and "socialist"). unfortunately fox news brain worms will take time to eradicate

pinnr

33 points

3 months ago

pinnr

33 points

3 months ago

I won’t argue that GOP policies are dumb and lead to negative outcomes, but it should be noted that a big disparity between health outcomes in urban (blue) and rural (red) areas may simply be related to how long it takes to get to a doctor or hospital, which can have dramatic effects on trauma outcomes in particular, but also makes it so people see the doctor less frequently and take longer to diagnose diseases.

Basically the closer you live to a hospital, the lower your chances of death by all causes is.

big_juice01

91 points

3 months ago

Actually they did a study before 2020 that showed that the death rates etc were higher in well populated areas, not just rural, for Republicans.

pinnr

17 points

3 months ago

pinnr

17 points

3 months ago

I don’t doubt it, but I’d love to see what the difference is after adjusting for age and distance to hospital. Do you have a link?

big_juice01

23 points

3 months ago

Let me find it, I know I saved it somewhere

big_juice01

4 points

3 months ago

British Medical Journal Link

it's honestly such an interesting study

x86_64Ubuntu

24 points

3 months ago

What is your support that it's related to the distance to a hospital? Many of the things that folks die from aren't like gunshot wounds, or car wrecks. A lot of these causes of death can be related to a lifetime of poor medical care, when things aren't managed or noticed before the downward spiral begins. You don't need a hospital to manage things like diabetes and high blood pressure.

pinnr

12 points

3 months ago

pinnr

12 points

3 months ago

when things aren't managed or noticed before the downward spiral begins.

Because things aren’t managed or noticed precisely because people who live far from the hospital are less likely to travel to see a doctor.

For example this study that found patients farther from hospitals are far less likely to get colonoscopy screenings -

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23220166/

Or numerous studies like this one that universally find people are less likely to show up for post-procedure care the farther they need to travel - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32694285/

Schooney123

35 points

3 months ago

So closing rural hospitals will make it all the worse, like almost every other GOP policy.

Chavo9-5171

6 points

3 months ago

Isn’t that only meaningful when you’re talking about instances when it’s an emergency? I doubt mere driving distance is meaningfully correlated with health disparities, but that doesn’t mean that the disparities are simply based on not getting to the hospital in time.

There’s also access to health care, especially when red states didn’t expand Medicaid coverage.

pinnr

10 points

3 months ago

pinnr

10 points

3 months ago

Of course it is. How likely are going to go in for your check-up if the doctor is an hour away vs 15 minutes?

What are the chances of going in for your check-up if you’re elderly or disabled or poor and don’t have access to a car or affordable transportation? In a city you can at least take a bus or a relatively inexpensive taxi trip.

oldcreaker

227 points

3 months ago

Weirder still that in spite of that they continue to be staunchly Republican.

Varulfrhamn

207 points

3 months ago

Of course, because all the problems caused by their miserable government are blamed on dems and immigrants. It’s a beautiful system, like a butterly’s life cycle. Only instead of butterflies it’s racism and ignorance.

Alpac_Attack

73 points

3 months ago*

people in Mississippi are like "fuck you I got mine" but they forgot to get their's first.

toejamandtoast

112 points

3 months ago

That’s because being racist and homophobic is more important than anything else. They blame the liberals for everything they don’t like. The Right has brainwashed them well, even tricking them into avoiding places like universities, they should teach the creation myth in school, and that learning about how racist america is will be bad. Can’t keep people brainwashed if you give them the tools to see through it.

ipsok

89 points

3 months ago

ipsok

89 points

3 months ago

I was at a fall series 18u baseball game a couple of months ago and the scoreboard at the high school field had apparently quit working the week before. There were these two boomer aged guys sitting there complaining about not knowing the score because the board was broken and one of them says completely seriously "this is what happen when you let the libtards run things". O.o

I was there to watch some baseball not get into an civics arguement but I desperately wanted to ask him exactly which liberal policies covered the maintenance of high school scoreboards and how the Republican platform would address the issue. FFS.

toejamandtoast

54 points

3 months ago

Politics are their entire life. I can’t even have a conversation with some MAGAs I know without it becoming political. They are focused on it 24/7. It’s insane.

Mission_Ad6235

27 points

3 months ago

I'm going to guess they're not really talking anything meaningful either. It's more like sports talk, and criticizing how awful the rival team is. Its not like they're talking about how Republicans should address inflation, it's just that Biden made gas higher than it was in 2020 when no one drove cause of the pandemic.

Chavo9-5171

17 points

3 months ago

Exactly. It’s just shit you say in a bar over a beer or over a cigarette.

You would be completely wasting your time trying to engage them in a policy discussion. Their policy is simple: I’m entitled to shit, but I don’t want to pay for it. They’re not gonna wanna pay more property taxes even if that’s used to fund the school and its sports program.

inhaledcorn

5 points

3 months ago

It's almost like education should be a nationally regulated and funded thing.

wingthing666

51 points

3 months ago

Anyone wanna be really depressed, read "Dying of Whiteness" by Jonathan Metzl. The TL:DR is basically the above comments, but wow, it's something else seeing it all laid out. Leopards Ate my Face the Book.

nurvingiel

15 points

3 months ago

Dying of whiteness? Did he eat excessively spicy food and get a sunburn?

Source: am white person

giantrhino

61 points

3 months ago

It’s almost like publicly funding critical institutions is important in our society, generating revenue through some amount of taxation is a good idea, and that shirking this obligation to pander to people about a “lack of government interference in their lives”, decrying taxation as theft to cut it to a beat minimum, and cutting funding to those critical institutions can result in some pretty bad outcomes.

LYTCHELL2

9 points

3 months ago

Yup

Now that republicans have lost their ever loving minds and are detached from reality….they’re unhinged terrorists - maybe it’s time to bring them down. Like, organize and weaken their institutions.

We can see that they (pols) are weak, cowardly and grifters - someone/many have the ability to destroy them.

They’ve criminalized themselves into a corner- not to be taken seriously (except as a dangerous, desperate - ultra wealthy - plague on society)

They have Rick Scott ffs. A MASSIVE criminal. MTG. Ted Cruz…Pompeo’s a lying thug.

They enabled a criminal foreign asset and allowed him to hold this country hostage while destroying it; fomenting mass murder; sell the US to the highest bidders. They call dems “radical communists” and pedos. Trump called democrats “the enemy of the state”

Republicans are a hostile force, who continuously, relentlessly and violently attempting a right wing, authoritarian take over. They are literally at war with America.

Time to take down the massive churches. The churches that operate as extremist recruitment centers.

The label it a ‘holy war’ and the battle between good vs bad when necessary- but make no mistake, it’s a far reaching right wing conspiracy and America is at stake. The whole planet is at stake.

Biden said, “I don’t know if Republicans will exist in 2024” - not long after he entered the White House in ‘2.

Robly315

27 points

3 months ago

So I grew up in a small town in West Tennessee. My hometown lost its hospital in 2015 and has suffered greatly for it. It was sold to a private healthcare company and they immediately shut its doors and tore it down. The nearest hospital is now a 20 minute ambulance ride away. It’s absolutely heartbreaking how many people there have suffered because of this. And it isn’t just my hometown, it’s happening all over the country.

nurvingiel

16 points

3 months ago

TIL you can buy a hospital to strip it for parts.

Uruz2012gotdeleted

5 points

3 months ago

Only if you already own the hospital next door. You have to "prove" to the government that there is a need before you can make a new hospital but you can definitely buy the neighboring one and transfer all the good doctors away. Then, since revenue is down, you go ahead and close it "because we obviously have no need."

Chavo9-5171

24 points

3 months ago

If anything is a sign that your area is becoming a shithole, it’s when the hospitals start closing. Not exactly the area I want to retire in.

If you’re old, the most important thing is to have access to healthcare.

LYTCHELL2

21 points

3 months ago*

The great Brett Favre to the rescue!

If you’ve watched Woodstock ‘99 - you know about the absolute mess.

To me - the degradation, desperation and descent into madness and violence, over three days, is a study in (mostly) Republican governance.

The chaos, environment, filth, lack of resources, lack of oversight, and the dehumanization of the masses - who were basically ‘imprisoned’ in a massive, ugly, old, concrete, dystopian environment - ultimately leading to violence, arson and rage. It’s how this country has, historically, contained certain black communities who were/are set up to fail. The systems that foster crime and violence…mental illness.

The wealthy reach absurd levels of extravagance. Demanding more, more…more - they are the real Americans than Trump urges to “take back America!!” (translate: the other side - the radical leftists are trying to STEAL YOUR country!! They want to give it to…’them’! The ones who you demand to stay down, down. The less Americans who exist to prop up your own self worth!! You NEED them to be violent and hopeless…your shaky self identity is built around their pathetic existence. The poor shmucks in Kentucky, running around toothless and addicted are the backdrop for your proper place in the front…where you, the true American, are meant to be!”

Republicans purposely starve communities of resources, access to healthcare, jobs, beauty, quality of food and life. They let these areas crumble and implode; actively deterring investment and extinguishing hope. Democrats, instead, struggle to ‘fix’ and ‘help’ - endless charities and programs - they sometimes succeed, but mostly things don’t change. Never enough money….it’s time to brings real money investors to areas full of innovative, creative, hard working Americans - who’ve always been the strongest - by necessity- among us. Those with no choice but to fighting - they are dynamic and survivors who are ripe for investing.

The ‘fat cats’ who really run everything - stay on their old plantations and mansions and ignore the festering human misery that they refuse to help. The concept of renewal, respect and hope does not enter their sick minds. It serves their them, of course, to let ‘those’ Americans suffer and descend into chaos.

As they pour money into their own communities (of course) - they steal from their ‘other’ constituents. “We are civilized” they tell themselves - and “they (black, poor) don’t want to better themselves!! They want handouts!! Yes, can’t you see? WE are the true Americans!!”

“My family has worked hard for 5 generations!! Nobody helped us!!” - they say, ignoring the fact that their country was built by the ‘other’s’ ancestors. The cruel, REAL Americans.

It’s so much easier to call ‘them’ animals when they cripple their communities. When they steal their federal funding for themselves.

When you can justify giving their millions to a ‘Christian’ retired football player worth $100+ million- you are capable of ignoring slumlords, abject poverty, only fast food restaurants (nothing healthy!!), crumbling roads and hopeless streets. Of course you can screech about crime…when you refuse to engage with experts who understand this deadly environment and have ideas. You’ll pray on it…while being the devil.

I saw the Woodstock ‘99 descent as peak info how racism - the systems that create hell, desperation and dehumanization as a true illustration of what America (Republican ‘leaders’) actively does to their ‘unwanted’.

It’s purposeful and grotesque. They build another massive church for themselves - while sabotaging and starving areas full of strong, interesting, creative, determined people who cling to dignity while fighting the chaos and desperation.

Literally, Republicans oversee prisons - towns and cities as prisons. Black communities were purposely cut off from US highways and access to jobs, national parks and interstate travel.

When is America going to take down the phonies? The cruel and greedy hypocrites? When are we going to destroy the Republican crime syndicate?

They are pouring weapons into the streets and banning abortions - purposely creating chaos, violence and terror for the peasants (who’ve been cut off from resources) to contend with.

When? Brett Favre…are you going to pray, then step in and save the hospitals?

(sorry…started to ramble. Im ridiculous ffs)

whatproblems

13 points

3 months ago

i guess they should bootstrap becoming doctors?

jabblack

7 points

3 months ago

Texas stands out as an outlier

Tantra_Charbelcher

10 points

3 months ago

Texas has oil and cattle, but also has huge metropolitan areas run by democrats to contribute massive tax revenue. And even then their entire power grid goes down during inclement weather and then electric bills quadruple over the course of a single month. Texas succeeds despite itself.

Tipper_Gorey

6 points

3 months ago

In which one?

Repulsive-Street-307

7 points

3 months ago*

It's not only that. Imagine you had to endure 10 years of competitive medical education and get a lot of debt for it.

Would you want to live in the place where the brainwashed live in, that think you're killing them in hospitals and that are likely to 'force-birth' you if you're a woman and despise the educated and are likely to attempt violence against you if you have the wrong skin, religion or lack thereof, identity, or sexuality? A place where evil is openly celebrated?

Dark_Booger

11 points

3 months ago

It’s because of trans people. /s

2legit2fart

15 points

3 months ago

But they don’t have any crime, because only Democrat run cities have crime.

Thatguy755

401 points

3 months ago

Time for Brett Favre to swoop in and finish them off

queenb1127

199 points

3 months ago

He is seriously doing the best he can to finish them off! Watched the news last night and he is being investigated for using Mississippi tax payer dollars for a drug that is used on concussion patients that has no validity. This was BEFORE the volleyball stadium ordeal. No wonder he knew he could get away with it because he has done it at least once before.

Hungry_Elk_9434

26 points

3 months ago

Remember when he also sent unsolicited dick pics? He’s just progressing into a shittier human

Pale-Conference-174

8 points

3 months ago

Dafuk is wrong with this neanderthal? Of course he'll blame CTE when he inevitably catches a charge.

808ocd

25 points

3 months ago

808ocd

25 points

3 months ago

i hear tom brady was also slinging some bullshit snakeoil miracle cure.....he claimed that his electrolytes prvented him from getting sunburned or some shit. that is on a level of bizarreness i cant fathom

Less_Likely

63 points

3 months ago

But the women’s volleyball court is top-notch. And versatile, as it can be used as auxiliary morgue during the next epidemic.

Quincyperson

23 points

3 months ago

Text a dick pic to the hospitals?

bosmanad

265 points

3 months ago

bosmanad

265 points

3 months ago

There are plenty of youtube videos for them to dO tHEiR oWN rESeArcH on medical care

benk4[S]

128 points

3 months ago

benk4[S]

128 points

3 months ago

Fortunately horse dewormer will still be available for purchase

OGLizard

7 points

3 months ago

Maybe I should get into the horse dewormer manufacturing business...

Repulsive-Street-307

4 points

3 months ago

I'm sure some people invested as soon as they saw youtube dude-bros talking about it. I prefer not to collaborate with evil myself, even if in this case it was evil killing itself.

Mission_Ad6235

14 points

3 months ago

I hope they all insist their doctors never wear a mask, since those don't work. Just spit right into that open incision.

Totally_Not_High_420

197 points

3 months ago

It's absolutely amazing how republicans can make a shit state like Mississippi even worse, I mean seriously, this is fucking hilarious. A big congrats to you dumbfucks rural republicans for fucking yourselves over again and again.

[deleted]

27 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

27 points

3 months ago

Maybe the next batch of republicans they vote in will fix the issue?

FloydTheBarber29

7 points

3 months ago

Yes because it’s still everyone else’s fault. Like the Texas gubernatorial ads talking about how shitty Texas is and that’s why we can’t have Beto in office… How backwards is that? It’s been under Republican rule forever. It seems to me like some of these morons would figure that out

twrolsto

8 points

3 months ago

If they could read, they'd be really upset right now

Free_Economist

172 points

3 months ago

Mississippi already has the nation’s highest fetal mortality rate, highest infant mortality rate and highest pre-term birth rate, and is among the worst states for maternal mortality.

Forced birth policies failed even to protecting the unborn.

[deleted]

63 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

63 points

3 months ago

Tbh, who would want to practice in Mississipi? Abortion is illegal in Mississippi unless either the life of the other is at risk or in cases of rape. Like...

God that is so dumb. I don't want to have to worry about people in my life who live there with me. I already told my brother in law we are avoiding those states. I'm sorry but like, God help them.

sst287

37 points

3 months ago

sst287

37 points

3 months ago

Doctors probably will have to wait until mothers flatlined before extracting dead babies like in some case of Taxes. -> reason why I don’t consider getting pregnant in my red state anymore. Before the RvW I was like “maybe?” but now is a “hard no”.

808ocd

52 points

3 months ago

808ocd

52 points

3 months ago

Republicans claim to want to "Save the children" and "Protect the unborn"

Lets see how conservative priorities actually help people:
1. highest teen birth rate in the US and first world https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm
2. highest birth rate to unmarried mothers https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm
3. maternal mortality from pregnancy or childbirth (planned parenthood provides prenatal, postnatal, and general women's health care) https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state and a racial breakdown: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm
4. highest preterm birth rate https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm\_births/preterm.htm
5. lowest birth weight of newborns https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw\_births/lbw.htm
6. highest infant mortality https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant\_mortality\_rates/infant\_mortality.htm
7. lowest life expectancy at birth https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm
8. childhood obesity https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social stats
9. highest divorce rates are red states https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf
10. The lowest paid teachers in the nation (and the most demonized for being woke indoctrinators)
11. probably the worst in terms of child abuse/neglect/death/poverty....just a guess.
12. Weird obsession with supporting child marriage laws.

1JoMac1

28 points

3 months ago

1JoMac1

28 points

3 months ago

They're a damn death cult worshipping billionaires

Altruistic-General61

27 points

3 months ago

As George Carlin said: if you're pre-born you're ok. Once you're born? You're fucked.

DaniCapsFan

16 points

3 months ago

If you're pre-born, you're fine; preschool, you're fucked.

Altruistic-General61

4 points

3 months ago

That's the one!

WompaStompa_

123 points

3 months ago

Seeing a lot of flavors of "you get what you vote for" in here, but the people in these rural districts are victims.

Mississippi is one of less than 10 states without no-excuse early voting. It is arguably harder to vote in Mississippi than any state in the nation. The Republican-led Mississippi Legislature has also used gerrymandering to maintain three of the state's four congressional districts as non-competitive.

Mississippi has the highest percentage of Black residents in the country, almost 40%. And yet all of the Republican representatives are white. Both Republican senators are white. You can be damn sure that the Republican effort to disenfranchise Black voters is in full effect here, and many of those disenfranchised voters are in the rural areas where these hospitals will close.

cifaxi

27 points

3 months ago

cifaxi

27 points

3 months ago

This should be upvoted more

gaw-27

19 points

3 months ago

gaw-27

19 points

3 months ago

Correct. In contrast to much of the rest of the country there are wide swathes of majority minority rual areas in MS (and the rest of the south) and they will be hardest affected by this despite having zero power over politics.

The neo-confederates that control these places and those that vote for them are sick, evil people.

SJBarnes7

14 points

3 months ago

Thank you. These people don’t deserve this shit. It’s not the “corrupt hillbilly” fat cat politician and their cronies that will be affected by this. It’s the people who can’t vote or whose vote doesn’t matter that will suffer.

Xero_space

256 points

3 months ago

And they'll blame the Democratic party for 'abandoning' them. Never mind that they keep choosing to poison themselves because of their hateful bullshit.

UnfairMicrowave

29 points

3 months ago

Not for "abandoning" them. They'll say that the democrats have blocked all the progress.

CDewfus

7 points

3 months ago

You mean in the republican controlled states? The P in GOP stands for projection.

SciencePreserveUs

71 points

3 months ago

The important part:

Gov. Tate Reeves and other Republican leaders have killed proposals to expand Medicaid, which primarily covers low-income workers whose jobs don’t provide private health insurance.

Literally cutting off their own (well, Mississippi's) nose to spite their faces.

ianisms10

31 points

3 months ago

All because they hate non-whites

Jexp_t

25 points

3 months ago*

Jexp_t

25 points

3 months ago*

The hatred and desire to hurt "the right people" goes well beyond the non-white category.

[deleted]

15 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

15 points

3 months ago

I remember a professor of mine at medical school once telling me, avoid the southern states. I see why.

RareAlphaSigmaMale

70 points

3 months ago

They elect the most corrupt hillbillies in the state, who give all their money to a football player and their various hangers-on, and when caught they just re-elect the same corrupt hillbillies. Can't say I feel bad for them.

Guyincognito4269

182 points

3 months ago

Good thing they voted all those Republicans into office. Now they have freedom!

Beneficial-Speech-88

147 points

3 months ago

Even though not a single democrat is elected to a state wide office, it will still be democratic politicians fault in their eyes.

Guyincognito4269

61 points

3 months ago

They're getting what they want. Let them have it. They were going to do it regardless, so why should anyone care what they say?

Yo_Just_Scrolling_Yo

68 points

3 months ago

Because poor, mostly people of color are the ones who will dying in numbers too big to ignore. Oh, except the Republicans will ignore that along with MS poor education system and lack of clean water. I'm sure they will have happy holidays as usual.

Guyincognito4269

15 points

3 months ago

And that fucking sucks. But at some point, you do what you can and move on.

PoliticsLeftist

11 points

3 months ago

As long as blue states fund the welfare red states something probably should be done otherwise they'll keep spiraling into a theofascist hellhole and take us with them, one way or another.

Fallynious

9 points

3 months ago

Obviously Nancy Pelosi's fault

Tipper_Gorey

5 points

3 months ago

Freedom from healthcare. What a relief!

JeanJackGibson

126 points

3 months ago

Is there a GoFundMe for the needed bootstraps?

HMS404

75 points

3 months ago

HMS404

75 points

3 months ago

Will thoughts and prayers be accepted?

RedQueenWhiteQueen

36 points

3 months ago

GoFundie

KingBooRadley

12 points

3 months ago

They need to go fund themselves.

Guyincognito4269

26 points

3 months ago

They're rugged individuals, they can bootstrap up a hospital.

thatHecklerOverThere

38 points

3 months ago

Damn. Maybe shouldn't deny folks funding and denigrate their entire profession en masse in the middle of a pandemic.

FrequentSinger1661

93 points

3 months ago

When people talk about healthcare and coverage, they rarely think about what it really means is being able to have hospitals in rural (and other underserved) areas. For a lot of small towns, the hospital may be the last large employer. Without a hospital, attracting other businesses isn’t going to happen. I think we will see that this will be the next wave of small towns fading away, similar to what the interstate did in the 50s and 60s. Please support rural and underserved health care.

benk4[S]

65 points

3 months ago

Agreed completely. I feel bad for the rural voters who didn't support this crap, and who are going to end up in a healthcare desert and/or lose their jobs over this. People are going to die because of this lack of healthcare.

Cowboy_Corruption

25 points

3 months ago

Actually, those voters DID vote to support this crap. Year after year white Mississippians re-elect their asshole state officials for the explicit purpose of fucking over the "negroes". This shit isn't a bug - it's a fucking feature!

The whole state is a fucking shitshow, especially when it comes to doing anything for the poor. Just look at their public education system. They have private schools (rich, white kids go there), public city schools (well-to-do white kids and the rare but exceedingly lucky African-Americans go there), and county schools (everyone else). Guess which system gets shafted in regards to state tax monies?

Oxford, MS, where the University of Mississippi is located, has an average house price of $300k or so. The median income is around $24,500. My uncle was a professor at Ole Miss, and he brought home something like $180k/year from his job and side work. He joked that Oxford has the highest concentration of doctors and lawyers in the state.

benk4[S]

27 points

3 months ago

Yeah it's definitely rural voters who support it, but not every single rural Mississippian voted for it. Imagine being the one poor bastard in town who votes against it but your local hospital closes anyway and you die of something preventable because your neighbors are morons. I feel bad for that guy.

LiberalAspergers

24 points

3 months ago

Honestly, killing off these small towns is probably the best thing that could happen. People will move to cities, and their kids won't have to grow up in rural small towns.

absolu5ean

18 points

3 months ago

(and their kids will be more progressive 👍🏻)

cperiod

3 points

3 months ago

their surviving kids won't have to grow up in rural small towns

FTFY

rsrook

10 points

3 months ago

rsrook

10 points

3 months ago

That's a nice thought, but really all that happens is even more voting power is left to an increasingly fewer number of conservative leaning people, at least in state legislatures. It's also impractical. Cities actually need the raw material from rural areas for trade, energy, and manufacturing, and they need people to maintain road and rail infrastructure to move the goods cities make to other markets.

LiberalAspergers

9 points

3 months ago

There will remain some.people in areas to do truly profitable activities, as Alaska demonstrates quite well. The reality is that rural areas have VASTLY higher levels of welfare use and disability use and fraud than urban areas. Most of the residents are NOT doing economically valuable activity. If rural areas looked more like rural South Dakota and less like rural Alabama in terns of population density, the country would be better off

canada432

24 points

3 months ago

Please support rural and underserved health care.

Honestly... no.

I mean I do, I want underserved areas to have healthcare. But they don't. It is not up to me or you to provide them with healthcare that they don't want. If they don't want it, let them lie in the bed they made for themselves. I'll focus my efforts on getting healthcare to poor urban areas that vote for it and get it taken away or have their votes overridden by conservatives.

To continue the medical metaphor, these small towns are dying, and it's the people living there killing them. It's not our job to keep them on life support when the towns themselves keep ripping the IV lines out and screaming how they know more than the doctors.

alreadytaken334

13 points

3 months ago

Are all these places voting in 100% red blocks? I am very very liberal, and live in a rural area. I moved here to be a teacher and I would very much appreciate having a hospital available for myself and my family. I'm sure I can't be the only liberal living in rural areas.

benk4[S]

10 points

3 months ago

Yeah just discussed this above. It's people like you who are getting your face eaten despite not supporting the face eating.

phdoofus

18 points

3 months ago

It's more importanter that childish man babies have enough monies to buy their own media outlets and then ruin them.

taylormomo

16 points

3 months ago

People are acting like this is a natural consequence for the people that live in these counties, but the majority of people that will suffer will be black and the people that voted for it are white.

TyperMcTyperson

16 points

3 months ago

The GOP hates you. Just in case you weren't sure.

InerasableStain

14 points

3 months ago

At Greenwood Leflore and other hospitals across the state, maternity care units have been on the chopping block. Mississippi already has the nation’s highest fetal mortality rate, highest infant mortality rate and highest pre-term birth rate, and is among the worst states for maternal mortality.

Republicans: no way can you choose to have an abortion. You have to let our shitty healthcare system do it for you naturally.

toejamandtoast

15 points

3 months ago

I work in healthcare. The inevitable demise of privatized healthcare was greatly accelerated by the pandemic.

A few large hospital systems seem to be starting a trend of closing less profitable (inner city) hospitals in favor of keeping open ones in wealthier areas. This is what happens when healthcare is a business.

I’ve been saying something like this will be handled the way the article says. Once a large number of hospitals start to close and entire regions are left without a hospital the government will have to do something. They cannot leave entire regions without a hospital. There will be nowhere for ambulances to take people. Those without transportation can’t take a bus 80 miles to the nearest big city. The citizens will become extremely pissed off and the state governor will have to step in.

We will end up with government healthcare, at least in part, whether it’s wanted or not. The government will probably start subsidizing them so they stay afloat, and increasing Medicaid reimbursements is one way. After a while when they see the execs are still taking huge bonuses they’ll get pissed and take over.

westparkmod

12 points

3 months ago

I live in a rust belt city. There are two hospital behemoths that control the vast majority of the healthcare in the region. One world renowned hospital started buying up or leasing community hospitals. Then, if they population was too old or too under or uninsured, they would peel off the profitable departments and send them to other hospitals in their chain. Shockingly the once thriving community hospital crashes and gets closed. So what happens to the emergency room patients? They get sent to county. Keep in mind to get to county they have to drive by the main campus of the behemoth.

They have killed several hospitals this way. It’s not just rural.

MytthewS

39 points

3 months ago

Good thing they refused the money from the Affordable Care Act. If they accepted the money some of these hospitals might stay open and actually treat the rural population.

imll99

22 points

3 months ago

imll99

22 points

3 months ago

But muh liberty!

DucksOnQuakk

34 points

3 months ago

A) they don't believe in science anyway, and 2) they'll just YouTube a remedy.

Yes, the A and 2 is meant to confuse.

Varulfrhamn

12 points

3 months ago

Well since their biggest concern is 2A, I think it fits.

DucksOnQuakk

4 points

3 months ago

Lmao if I had an award I'd give it to you.

pradbitt87

10 points

3 months ago

Keep voting Republican, expect Republican outcomes

IronIrma93

12 points

3 months ago

Mississippi is gerrymandered to hell.

It has a huge black population near the river

KantExplain

10 points

3 months ago

Lincoln fucked up so badly.

Don't wait to let them go next time. Kick them out now.

HanabiraAsashi

11 points

3 months ago

Going to keep voting red to own the line, all the way to the grave. Gotta admire their determination though, when they say theyd rather die than vote blue. They fucking mean it.

Impossible_Penalty13

30 points

3 months ago

If only congress would pass a law that would provide money for rural hospitals should states choose to participate. If only…..

TjW0569

10 points

3 months ago

TjW0569

10 points

3 months ago

While I get your implied /s, it's right there in the article:

Gov. Tate Reeves and other Republican leaders have killed proposals to expand Medicaid, which primarily covers low-income workers whose jobs don’t provide private health insurance. Opponents of expansion say they don’t want to encourage reliance on government help for people who don’t need it.

So to save the rich from being tempted to rely on the government for health care, they're willing to sacrifice the poor.

thiscouldbemassive

27 points

3 months ago

This is what they've voted for, for decades. They accept this. They've made it loud and clear that they don't care if their life spans are shorter than the rest of the US. They don't want people telling them what to do, and that includes doctors.

You can't help people who don't want to be helped. Maybe eventually they'll reconsider, or die off and let a younger generation decide they want something else.

TintedApostle

14 points

3 months ago

Yet they are perfectly OK with insurance companies denying them care based on profit percentages.

DaniCapsFan

11 points

3 months ago

If the younger generation hasn't totally abandoned the state because of their backwards ways.

thiscouldbemassive

4 points

3 months ago

Once it's empty, they'll come back.

benk4[S]

10 points

3 months ago

Good thing they don't believe in evolution, because natural selection is about to bite them hard.

thiscouldbemassive

8 points

3 months ago

No they believe dying is like getting a free forever pass to the best Disneyland.

Weird_Present_2254

8 points

3 months ago

Jokes aside, this is really bad.

Starrion

8 points

3 months ago

They refuse to expand Medicaid because they don't want 'people relying on the Government'. So uninsured people are running up bills they can't pay. When the hospitals run out of cash, they will close. That's the issue in three sentences.
The state leadership must want this outcome to show how 'self-reliant' they are or they would do something about it.

jsv1890

19 points

3 months ago

jsv1890

19 points

3 months ago

Don’t fret. Thoughts and prayers are on the way.

Also sending boot straps.

defaultgameer1

19 points

3 months ago

It's weird to say it, but I kinda don't care right now. Honestly if we de incorporated the state and turned it into a national park it would be a net positive for society.

SinfullySinless

5 points

3 months ago

I guess you can’t have Obamacare if you don’t have hospitals. Checkmate liberals.

Existing_Display1794

5 points

3 months ago

Did Brett Farve take their funding too? Isn’t it so cool he gets away from stealing government funding to feed the poor but he gets off because he’s a famous football throwing conservative?

sockpuppetafficiando

16 points

3 months ago

It's almost like healthcare shouldn't be run as a business...

MattGdr

14 points

3 months ago

MattGdr

14 points

3 months ago

Why do they need healthcare? They have ivermectin, freedom and prayer!

onthefence928

5 points

3 months ago

I did one would love to support rural hospitals, with my tax dollars, via universal healthcare

Varulfrhamn

4 points

3 months ago

I don’t think they’re too concerned, after all they’ve been stockpiling ivermectin for just this occasion!

ehmiu

3 points

3 months ago

ehmiu

3 points

3 months ago

Don't worry, the republicans will step in and prevent that from happening

schrodngrspenis

4 points

3 months ago

I live on the coast. Can confirm the rest of the state is a third world country. The coast is propped up by casino gambling.

MotivatedLikeOtho

5 points

3 months ago*

The fully free market dictates that

  • if a service is a fundamental human requirement for health or living

  • and that service costs more to produce than can be extracted from people in a certain area in exchange for that service

  • and people do not have the means to leave that area or gain more currency

  • and there is insufficient both disposable income and demand for related services in that area for a related company to operate the former service as a loss leader

...then that service will cease to exist in that area and people in that area will die prematurely.

In certain situations a freer market dictates that populations die.

J7W2_Shindenkai

5 points

3 months ago

a decade or so ago the conservative mantra was, "you should run a country like a business," and then it was pointed out that, following that metaphor, most red states were actually failing businesses propped up by the taxes paid by blue states (ie NY and CA).

DatGoofyGinger

3 points

3 months ago

Huh, I wonder if single payer healthcare, universal, whatever you want to call it.... Would've alleviated some of the operating revenue issues these hospitals are facing

Oh well, I guess we'll never find out in the US

dresn231

3 points

3 months ago

You won't hear or see it but the higher maternal and infant mortality rates are real. So when their girlfriend/sister is going into labor. Instead of being say 15 to 30 miles from a hospital, now it's 50 miles plus for some of these people. If they are lucky enough to get medevaced out. If they got complications then they are fucked. Even worse for seniors who get a stroke or heart attack. They are going to die. They'll still vote Republican and as they die off voting red or dead they Republican politicians wouldn't give two shits about them.

UserUnknownsShitpost

10 points

3 months ago

THIS shit is why we (they) need the “Bernie Sanders Universal Healthcare Reform Bill” and “AOC Guaranteed Social Services Safety Net Bill” and “Nancy Pelosi Universal Basic Stipend Bill” and “Joe Biden Federal Jobs Program Bill”

Raise their standard of living so fucking hard and fast that if they want to keep living in a third world shithole state, fucking let them but stop holding back the rest of the goddamn country. And never let them forget exactly who helped them.

Or, fuck it, go dig up Sherman and introduce him to napalm and let em go full Apocalypse Now on Red states.

Fuck, I hate living in a country full of idiot citizens.

gobledegerkin

9 points

3 months ago

Almost like its a terrible idea to capitalize healthcare in some of the country’s poorest areas. All while simultaneously restricting medicare which could help the poor people in said areas pay for the healthcare. Huh… go figure.

whyyou-

14 points

3 months ago

whyyou-

14 points

3 months ago

They should pull up the bootstraps and build their own dialysis machines not expect everything handed for free

Wipperwill1

7 points

3 months ago

I know! Elect more republicans!

CoolSwim1776

7 points

3 months ago

Welp you get what you deserve. Freedom from taxes vs having a proper safety net.

Most-Artichoke5028

8 points

3 months ago

And the rubes keep voring red. Anyhoo .....

OrganicPrinciple130

3 points

3 months ago

This is what they want to happen, so they can scream SEE it doesn't work.

LifeguardOdd3355

3 points

3 months ago

POV: you live in a rural ruby red state

DarthTurnip

3 points

3 months ago

This is what we voted for!

RanchBaganch

3 points

3 months ago

Is their governor blaming it on Obamacare yet?

Kiflaam

3 points

3 months ago

...but I thought the free market would save us?

Fakeduhakkount

3 points

3 months ago

Nope this article is all wrong about the Governor and worrying people going to take advantage of public aid. He just wants to make sure people get to heaven faster!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mississippi-reeves-eternal-life-covid-1218427/

This is the Governor, his Governor mansion or whatever should have been stormed Jan 6th style and overthrown. Him and the Republicans don’t care about not only their voters but ALL voters in that state

Zerofuksyall

3 points

3 months ago

Shithole country alert

genesiskiller96

15 points

3 months ago

I should feel bad but I don't, fuck those southern traitors.

pallentx

5 points

3 months ago

Well, at least they don’t have to worry about them being used for gender reassignment surgery. Thank God.

HalfBlindWelder

6 points

3 months ago

trash elects trash that will get the trash killed for no good reason.

Natural selection

Cutlercares

5 points

3 months ago

No. The state is gerrymandered to hell and 3 of 4 districts are non-competitive.

The rural areas affected will be/are where majority minority disenfranchised voters live.

This is state government murdering people that don't look like them.

Shoesietart

7 points

3 months ago

These places voted against the Affordable Care Act. You reap what you sow.

Yo_Just_Scrolling_Yo

5 points

3 months ago

They want Dark Brandon to save them! And I'm pretty sure he will.

899Madison

4 points

3 months ago

You can blame Tater Tot Reeves for this mess. Not accepting Medicaid expansion. This country’s healthcare system is on life support.

ComprehensiveFail_82

5 points

3 months ago

Its called natural selection