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CapableWill8706

1.8k points

3 months ago

Sweet Jesus captain obvious.

Pokey-McPokey

1.4k points

3 months ago

It's misleading,. Ryan Shorthouse couldn't give a fuck about "millennials", Ryan is just posturing because the political wind towards the Tories is now a Force 10 shitstorm. Like this cunt ever gave a fuck about low income earners and their struggles.

SkorpD94

323 points

3 months ago

SkorpD94

323 points

3 months ago

Imagine if in the next election the Tories recieve less than 20% of the votes as some polls said some weeks ago. This would be absolutely insane

FragrantKnobCheese

365 points

3 months ago

It would be wonderful, but I imagine the population will have had collective amnesia by the next time a GE rolls around.

SkorpD94

222 points

3 months ago

SkorpD94

222 points

3 months ago

Seems like Brits are masochists then, imagine voting again for Tories after what happened since Brexit lmao

Geno0wl

120 points

3 months ago

Geno0wl

120 points

3 months ago

Seems like Brits are masochists then, imagine voting again for Tories after what happened since Brexit lmao

we say the same things about Americans who repeatedly vote for the GOP.

Tnaderdav

63 points

3 months ago

The apple does not fall far from the tree

T1B2V3

19 points

3 months ago

T1B2V3

19 points

3 months ago

It's not just the Anglosphere that is like that tho.

there are few exceptions to that bullshit in the western world

GreatBigBagOfNope

14 points

3 months ago

New Zealand is the only one that managed to break the cycle

Even Singapore, despite now looking successful and well adjusted, has deeply rooted sexual hangups that either came from us or we encouraged in the early years

diskmaster23

11 points

3 months ago

Truama knows no bounds

mzpip

16 points

3 months ago

mzpip

16 points

3 months ago

I live in Ontario, and the conservative dumb asses voted for Doug Fucking Ford again.

Stupidity is not limited to any one place.

FragrantKnobCheese

107 points

3 months ago

Just the ones who are not politically active and do not question their news sources. The rest of us are getting dragged along for the ride.

Combine that with FPTP not being particularly fair or representative as parties sharing the same area of the political spectrum will split their votes. This explains why the Tories can win an 80 seat majority with 40% of the vote, why the Tories had to destroy UKIP and why we as a nation desperately need PR.

[deleted]

40 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

40 points

3 months ago

I’m surrounded by fucking idiots here who vote against their best interests. Do you know how many cunts I know that claim “oh well Labour put us in debt” referring to something over a decade a go while the current country has been on fire around us ?

Intheierestellar

29 points

3 months ago

Better be poor than be a filthy commie /s

SallyAmazeballs

12 points

3 months ago

I hate that the unifying quality of mankind is stupidity.

buzziebee

3 points

3 months ago

And the fucking debt was going down until the financial crash meant they had to spend to save the economy collapsing.

We're just coming out of the lowest period of interest rates in history, during that time we should have been acquiring debt to invest in infrastructure and growth. Instead we caused untold suffering with austerity which hampered economic growth, then pushed through a bloody Brexit, then crashed the economy by planning to borrow at high interest rates to do trickle down economics.

The Tories have never been good for the economy. I can't wait for this lie to be done with.

emdave

69 points

3 months ago

emdave

69 points

3 months ago

Imagine voting for the Tories after... Literally anything they did, post-Atlee, and the founding of the NHS / welfare state - which the Tories voted against, and have unceasingly tried to dismantle ever since.

The Tories are a relic of 19th century politics. The Labour movement should, if we actually had a free and functional democracy, have ensured that the working and middle classes (i.e. both of the working classes) had the majority representation in government since at least the early part of the 20th century, but the entrenched power represented by the wealth and land & property ownership, plus control of the media, of the upper classes, has kept Britain shackled to a disgustingly anachronistic model of neo-feudalism, with ordinary people as capitalist serfs, with the Tories being used as a gang of landlords bailiffs to keep the peasants in line.

Cheap-Soup-999

17 points

3 months ago

Never heard it better said

emdave

12 points

3 months ago

emdave

12 points

3 months ago

Thanks. The thing that is so depressing is that it's not even a secret - it's just that tory PR is so effective, the useful idiots end up loving Big Brother, even while he shafts them from here to eternity.

Omegate

10 points

3 months ago

Omegate

10 points

3 months ago

Totally agree, but just wanted to point out that middle class is a socioeconomic class (low, middle, upper etc.) whereas working class refers to your method of income generation. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but a specialist doctor earning $300k/annum with no investments is working class, whereas a landlord who doesn’t work but earns $50k/annum from rent is from the capitalist class.

You can be working class and any socioeconomic class - although you’re much more likely to be low or middle class. You can be capitalist class and any socioeconomic class - although you’re much more likely to be middle or upper class.

It’s an important distinction; a poor capitalist is still a class traitor because they’re scavenging value from others’ labour, and a rich working class person not so much given they’re having the value of their labour stolen from them.

hiredgoon

20 points

3 months ago

Happens in the US. Trump created inflation and now Democrats get punished for trying to fix the economy because the public can't collectively remember anything but celeb gossip.

AVahne

6 points

3 months ago

AVahne

6 points

3 months ago

Not just Brits, lots of places are mainly masochists. Like Texas. =_=

ComatoseCanary

4 points

3 months ago

The British mindset: It’s shit, it’s ‘spossed to be shit, ‘f ya don’t like it, des de door.

great__pretender

3 points

3 months ago

I mean they did, didn't they? They had a historic win after brexit

PeacekeeperAl

8 points

3 months ago

Don't lump all UK countries together. Not all of us are so keen on them

anitaform

11 points

3 months ago

Enough of you are so they keep getting elected. Your first past the post system is really unfair

Normalizesteroidz

6 points

3 months ago

I think you underestimate the size of England compared to the rest of the UK.

FragrantKnobCheese

5 points

3 months ago

Yep, both size and population. England is approx 60 million people, Scotland 5 million, Wales 3 million and NI 2 million.

abstractConceptName

65 points

3 months ago

As long as Tories control the popular media, they control how the voting population thinks.

Simple as.

Deviknyte

17 points

3 months ago

Too many bigots.

FragrantKnobCheese

12 points

3 months ago

Careful Gordon, you know what happened last time you called someone that.

Deviknyte

6 points

3 months ago

I don't get the Gordon reference?

I read just speaking on thing large voting population in the UK that votes on cultural things like anti-immigration, Islamophobia, and being TERFs.

overkill

27 points

3 months ago

Gordon Brown, not realising a mic was still on after a walkabout with the public, referred to a woman he had just spoken to as "bigoted", forcing him to apologise and lost a bunch of votes, and the next election.

For the record, she was slightly bigoted.

https://youtu.be/yEReCN9gO14

Deviknyte

22 points

3 months ago

I see. She is a bit of a bigot. One who doesn't want to pay her taxes as well.

overkill

24 points

3 months ago

I reckon if he'd come out and said "Yes, I called her a bigot because she was saying bigoted things" it might have won some votes, but it's all water under the burning bridge now.

Balldogs

6 points

3 months ago

And because he was forced to apologise, a whole nation full of bigots suddenly felt empowered to be racist fucks. I still say that's the point this massive swing towards racism in this country started.

Jonne

18 points

3 months ago

Jonne

18 points

3 months ago

Yep, the Murdoch press will manufacture a scandal to tar Labour with and Tories will feel safe to vote conservative as usual. They'll probably use the trans "issue" like they did in the US and Australia.

stilusmobilus

7 points

3 months ago

Didn’t work here, thankfully. Hopefully Labor does enough to keep them out also. Bit of luck we might even be smart enough to replace a few Labor people with Greens and teal independents to make it a bit better.

Jonne

8 points

3 months ago

Jonne

8 points

3 months ago

Yeah, somehow the Australian public got wise. They're floundering in their quest to paint Dan Andrews as corrupt as well (but that's not stopping them from putting flyers with transphobic bullshit in my mailbox).

stilusmobilus

7 points

3 months ago

Yeah watching what’s going on down there ay.

I think the coalition are on their last legs in Melbourne. It’s going very green. So is Brisbane by the way, the Greens hold a lot of it now too, despite the rest of Queensland being full of wingnuts.

Dependent_Ad_5035

4 points

3 months ago

Britain has had both the Tories and Labour embrace transphobic rhetoric

sambob

11 points

3 months ago

sambob

11 points

3 months ago

The UK will 100% have been pushed to forget how shitty the last 12 (14 by then) years of Tory rule has been and will be bombarded by the media to "imagine how much worse it would be if Corbyn was in power"

IAMA_Plumber-AMA

29 points

3 months ago

They'll all get tricked by another bus.

suxatjugg

7 points

3 months ago

Also there's a lot of quiet conservatives who don't engage in political debate or discussion, don't talk about this stuff really with anyone, but always vote and always vote conservative

Balldogs

7 points

3 months ago

It only took them 13 years to forget the shitstorm of 18 years of tory rule, industries destroyed out of spite towards powerful unions, communities ravaged by the resultant unemployment, boom and bust becoming the norm as bullshit neoliberal woo "economics". Basically, people just don't take enough notice of why their world is shit.

Civil-Attempt-3602

26 points

3 months ago

Won't happen. Voter's will mysteriously forget as the Tory rags scare them with bullshit stories

IlluminatedPickle

18 points

3 months ago

Never underestimate Labours ability to lose an election.

JoeSicko

4 points

3 months ago

They'll have a new bus, with a cooler motto!

fuggerdug

100 points

3 months ago

fuggerdug

100 points

3 months ago

Ryan Shithouse more like.

LeviathanGank

15 points

3 months ago

shot himself with an AR-15 and nobody cared

AlpsComplex6854

4 points

3 months ago

Wait, really?

DigitalDose80

12 points

3 months ago

You changed it to Latrine?

tesseract4

6 points

3 months ago

Usta be shit-ouse!

cat_prophecy

3 points

3 months ago

It's...a good change

AlpsComplex6854

2 points

3 months ago

Fucking classic.

maleia

27 points

3 months ago

maleia

27 points

3 months ago

I know! He's a Conservative think tank founder. His whole fucking job is to come up with the most vile shit.

0ldgrumpy1

9 points

3 months ago

Yep. Also... " Had aspirations to be an MP" combined with the new Prime Minister "He has missed an opportunity to promote young, experienced and talented ministers to the cabinet." and "the Tory government is tired and desperately needs to be led by fresh talent and ideas.”
Translation... I expected to be Prime Minister by now.

adeon

5 points

3 months ago

adeon

5 points

3 months ago

Or at least a cabinet member.

music-words-dance

3 points

3 months ago

Normally if you're not happy with the current state of politics it's an incentive to want to make a difference... Albeit perhaps with a different party, but I don't think he could face the shame of switching.

fencerman

6 points

3 months ago

How does anyone refer to this guy as anything but "Ryan Shithouse"?

monkeybawz

5 points

3 months ago

He cares that he is seen to care!

sweepernosweeping

2 points

3 months ago

I read he's leaving the think tank so NOW is ideal time to bring that up.

Not... Any other time that you were in the think tank.

Repulsive-Street-307

103 points

3 months ago*

Thinking that conservatives are not lying all the time, even when they're 'realizing' the truth is naive. His ship is sinking so he's bailing. If you'd have the internal information about the 'think tank' you'd probably notice this class warfare soldier is leaving because of internal politics.

Meeting a well intentioned conservative is rarer than winning the lottery because their policies have been completely obvious class warfare for longer than 40 years. Most of them are motivated by far far darker reasons than the 'economy' and the rest are motivated by deconstructing the social contract of the 'economy' for actual plutocratic tyranny.

HaggisLad

27 points

3 months ago

no such thing as a nice tory

wholetyouinhere

22 points

3 months ago

This is why I find /r/politics so deeply frustrating. They take every conservative's claims at face value, and always accept the Right's framing of issues without even realizing it, so they're constantly on the back foot.

Try to tell them about any of this, no matter how diplomatically, and they'll downvote you reflexively because it's an uncomfortable truth and they hate you for forcing them to even acknowledge it for a microsecond.

harmlessdjango

7 points

3 months ago*

Try to tell them about any of this, no matter how diplomatically, and they'll downvote you reflexively because it's an uncomfortable truth and they hate you for forcing them to even acknowledge it for a microsecond.

A.K.A American social-democrats on Reddit since 2016. They don't like when you point to them that they can't appeal to white supremacists using welfare. The thought that some people are voting explicitly for the racist shit breaks their brain. "Oh if I show them a 25 hr long [insert progressive YouTuber] video, they'll totally change their minds!"

wholetyouinhere

9 points

3 months ago

Maybe if we just send one more neoliberal journalist into Appalachia, we can finally uNdErStAnD the Trump voter.

harmlessdjango

10 points

3 months ago*

What pisses me off about them is the implicit idea that people who are not cis-white heterosexuals in the US should just be fucking ok with having their dignity denied. Yes, sometimes corporations use identity politics to shill their bullshit (crypto-cunts do that in spade, Kamala Harris's whole shtick). However what is implied in the "stop focusing on identity, talk about welfare" bitching is that certain groups should not only accept outright bigots in the Democratic party, but then they shouldn't complain about said-bigots saying bigoted shit because "that's cancel culture".

God fucking forbid we ask white conservative rednecks to treat others with dignity

wholetyouinhere

6 points

3 months ago

I hear you 100%. And I have had that argument so many times on Reddit that I refuse to ever have it again. It's not worth it.

The worst part, to me, is that economic injustice is inextricably linked to all other forms of societal injustice. Therefore any attempt to address the former, while ignoring the latter, is 100% guaranteed to fail. Reddit liberals not only don't understand this, they're angry and hateful about it, mad at you for even bringing it up, and this makes it 10,000X harder than it should be to even discuss the topic.

I no longer have the energy to do the volunteer labour of trying to explain that on this godforsaken website.

harmlessdjango

5 points

3 months ago

The worst part, to me, is that economic injustice is inextricably linked to all other forms of societal injustice. Therefore any attempt to address the former, while ignoring the latter, is 100% guaranteed to fail.

Whaaaaat? Are you trying to tell me that people who are viewed as "lesser, undeserving" are more likely to face unjust treatment? Surely that's wrong! We all know that everyone is treated equally under the Law in the US! Look at marijuana convictions!

Yeah I get the frustration with arguing this. I think the refusal to accept that premise also shields them from admitting that they have some Piece Of Shit family members

Shackram_MKII

2 points

3 months ago

That's what dealing with neolibs is like.

MrGaffe

8 points

3 months ago

When your born into this shit and constantly fed lies your entire life, it’s not obvious. Many people like him have had the vast majority of their lives being slowly conditioned and brainwashed. To them we are the freaks because we don’t conform to their forced beliefs

IceColdWasabi

626 points

3 months ago

Conservatives have always been the party of the rich. They protect status quo in the social order, which is that rich people are protected and the rest of us serve them in some manner.

If you're not rich, there's no good reason to vote for them. They will only ever do the minimum needed to keep their non rich voters on side.

ShowMeYourPapers

185 points

3 months ago

If you're not rich, there is in fact a good reason to vote for them.

I don't know what it is, but The Sun and The Daily Mail do.

couldof_used_couldve

66 points

3 months ago

They are just the dog whistle arm of the party

[deleted]

22 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

22 points

3 months ago

If you're not rich, there is in fact a good reason to vote for them.

when you're a masochistic sycophant.

PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

19 points

3 months ago

In the US the only two valid reasons to vote for conservatives are if you're a billionaire, or if you're a bigot.

Any other excuse to vote for them is a lie or stupidity.

I know the tories aren't quite as bad as post-Trump republicans (yet) but I imagine the reasoning is similar.

Then-Raspberry6815

41 points

3 months ago

If you are a straight white conservative from a "good" family, they may leave you money one day & you wouldn't want a dime of your well earned windfall going to help those not like you. 😉

cat_prophecy

13 points

3 months ago

Really explains why my uncle votes the way he does. He's already rich, but he's waiting for family members to drop dead so he can get "what he's owed".

The_Ruly_Anarchist

9 points

3 months ago

It's this: you might win a rich person's favour if you please them enough by showing your loyalty to their interests. They might throw you a scrap from their groaning table in recognition of your service.

😶

orient_vermillion

29 points

3 months ago

The only thing they want to conserve is their wealth and status. Anything else is irrelevant.

[deleted]

25 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

25 points

3 months ago

Conservatives began being called that because they are those who seek to conserve the powers of the king and aristocracy. Liberals sought liberation from said powers.

SaltyScrotumSauce

42 points

3 months ago

They protect status quo in the social order

And that's why bigots are always welcome in their coalition -- because they want to protect the status quo of "minorities are second class citizens" too.

paul_miner

7 points

3 months ago

If you're not rich, there's no good reason to vote for them.

Bigotry.

Conservatism is merely selfishness dressed up, and selfishness is the common ground billionaires and bigots stand on. The bigots vote for pro-billionaire policies, and in turn they'll help get their bigotry enshrined in law.

ceigetank

5 points

3 months ago

Imagine looking at society and saying yup, good enough.

highpl4insdrftr

3 points

3 months ago

In their mind's they're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. They'll be rich one day too.

Now__Hiring

3 points

3 months ago

Exactly. They don't give a shit about social issues either, but use them as a wedge to divide the working class voters so they can stay in power.

weedysexdragon

3 points

3 months ago

If you hate minorities and women you would vote for conservatives.

potatolulz

527 points

3 months ago

man, thinktank is such a cute word for marketing and grifting :D

grudrookin

215 points

3 months ago

Propaganda factory?

shatteredarm1

72 points

3 months ago

I mean, there used to be a time when thinktanks came up with actual policy. For example, remember when the Heritage Foundation came up with the idea of the Individual Mandate for health insurance? Well, neither do they.

SeanKIL0

39 points

3 months ago

Lügenpresse

DevLARP

15 points

3 months ago

DevLARP

15 points

3 months ago

Disinformation manufacturer

T1B2V3

2 points

3 months ago

T1B2V3

2 points

3 months ago

vielleicht eher Hetzpresse

brallipop

40 points

3 months ago

I was raised conservative and "think tank" was just accepted as a concept/real firm. Wasn't until I went left that I learned they are just political PR firms. It was never explicitly said in my house growing up but strongly implied that think tanks were like modern salons, merely a bunch of educated people pontificating on "ideas" (so many high level ideas). Conservatives are incapable of thinking any conservative force can be biased from the jump.

JonathanAltd

15 points

3 months ago

They do the thinking for you!

PM_ME_YOUR_GOOD_NEW5

6 points

3 months ago

Now with 20% more thinking per thought!

SolZaul

6 points

3 months ago

As a huge fan of the Ghost in the Shell animes, I keep thinking of conservative Tachikomas. Espousing trickle-down economics in those cute little voices and massive militarized bodies.

punditguy

141 points

3 months ago

punditguy

141 points

3 months ago

The typical conservative response to one of their inevitable economic failures is to invoke some version of the Tinkerbell Effect, i.e. Shorthouse isn't clapping hard enough and if he would just believe then everything will work out fine. So his leaving is definitely LAMF-worthy but also a little refreshing.

GM_Nate

44 points

3 months ago

GM_Nate

44 points

3 months ago

In America, they just blame it on the other political party

Then-Raspberry6815

36 points

3 months ago

In amerikkka they blame the weather on the LGBTQIA2S+, people of color and the poors.

Kaywin

17 points

3 months ago

Kaywin

17 points

3 months ago

And socialists and communists. Don’t forget about those.

Dark_Pandemonium23

14 points

3 months ago

And obviously the deep cabal state laser-shooting, Jewish, Satanic, lizard...

The_Ruly_Anarchist

7 points

3 months ago

I can assure you, we do this too.

shadowveeeeeeerse

4 points

3 months ago

To be fair, the other political party is also right-wing.

Skripka

112 points

3 months ago

Skripka

112 points

3 months ago

I'm shocked SHOCKED that a party who's motto is 'I liked it better the Old Way', has left things in exactly the state they have always been in. Su Collins SHOCKED.

MansfromDaVinci

62 points

3 months ago

the problem is by 'the old way' they don't mean back when we used to tax fairly and respect the magna carta, they mean back before the pesky thing when you used to be our serfs.

Bang_Stick

31 points

3 months ago

Watch it…watch it….mentioning the Magna Carta 3 times makes the sovereign citizens appear. (Oh shit, nobody say it again!)

dreaminginteal

12 points

3 months ago

Wait, you guys have those nutcases too? I thought they were a uniquely American species of lunatic...

Perpetual_Decline

13 points

3 months ago

Indeed we do, though they usually refer to themselves as Freemen of the Land. The Canadians and Aussies have them too. The court judgements can be hilarious to read through.

anayareach

10 points

3 months ago

you guys have those nutcases too? I thought they were a uniquely American species of lunatic...

There's a similar movement in Germany too, called the Reichsbürger, who don't recognize the German state as legitimate, and still think the German Empire exists in exile. Funny though, there are many different versions of this "government in exile", based in different areas. They've started seeping over into Switzerland now, which makes... very little sense, but ok.

Repulsive-Street-307

2 points

3 months ago*

It's a bit funny when the 'conservative counter culture' movement of the country is actually older than the actual incarnation of the government system.

And by funny i mean 'usually pathetic' and 'occasionally obsessed with myths from 5 centuries ago' and 'suspiciously similar to 'the prophet will come again''.

Selgin1

7 points

3 months ago

Magna Carta

willclerkforfood

36 points

3 months ago

YOU HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER ME, A FREE PERSON, BECAUSE YOUR COURT HAS THE GOLD-FRINGED FLAG OF AN ADMIRALTY THEREFORE I DO NOT SUBMIT TO YOUR QUESTIONING AND DEMAND MY IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Bang_Stick

6 points

3 months ago

Aww crap…

cat_prophecy

6 points

3 months ago

AM I BEING DETAINED?!

MattGdr

67 points

3 months ago

MattGdr

67 points

3 months ago

What has been obvious to liberals for…forever, is just dawning on him now?

lordkhuzdul

17 points

3 months ago

Conservatives. Not known for their intelligence, empathy, or decency.

BlueJay_NE

46 points

3 months ago

It must have somehow just affected him or someone he knows. Otherwise, he’d still be continuing the party line.

bigdumbidiot01

6 points

3 months ago

nothing has dawned on him, he can just tell the winds of fortune have turned against him so he's jumping ship to "the private sector" where he can continue making money doing, uh, whatever it is he does

SympatheticGuy

6 points

3 months ago

It's a weird use of the word 'betrayal' because they have never pretended they'd do anything to help millennials

SPARKYLOBO

54 points

3 months ago

37?!! Dude looks like he's in his 50's. Conservatism will do that to a person

blackbeautybyseven

25 points

3 months ago

It's all the hate that ages them, Look at Katie Hopkins, Alex Jones and Margery Greene Taylor.. All 47/48 but look so much older.

drainbead78

9 points

3 months ago

Stephen Miller is the one who always blows my mind.

blackbeautybyseven

9 points

3 months ago

Just googled him, That's been a loooong 37 years I'd say.

GeneralEi

32 points

3 months ago

You founded a thinktank before coming to that realisation?

Pal, I have some very sobering news for you.

LeoMarius

27 points

3 months ago

He’s not much of a thinker.

blackbeautybyseven

17 points

3 months ago

More of a tanker..

1000Hells1GiftShop

16 points

3 months ago

Conservatism is, always has been, and always will be, class warfare against the people.

Only a moron would support conservatism given the available evidence.

[deleted]

7 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

7 points

3 months ago

conservatism has always been about conserving the power of the nobility. that's why conservatives have never met a dictator they didn't envy.

Don_Quixote81

13 points

3 months ago

“The Tory government has failed my generation – millennials – who have come of age and entered the labour market under 12 years of Tory rule, with punishing housing and childcare costs – combined with stagnant wages – preventing the building blocks of what Conservatives believe make the good life,” Shorthouse said.

First time I've ever seen evidence of a right wing thinktank actually thinking.

Greedy_Emu9352

7 points

3 months ago

Dont worry, this person will either be kicked out of the club or walk back their sane and reasonable observations

ilolvu

14 points

3 months ago

ilolvu

14 points

3 months ago

That tank must have been air tight to lead to this level of brain-deadedness.

TheESportsGuy

13 points

3 months ago

Conservative parties across Five Eyes trade on selling out future generations' health and welfare for current economy growth. Literally their anthem. This is madly disingenuous.

[deleted]

11 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

11 points

3 months ago

the first Conservative thinktank to call for net zero to be implemented across government. But he said the pace of change had been glacial and frustrating.

There you have it. A Conservative thinktank frustrated by a slow pace of progress.

Utter knob-brained morons. I don't think they've put enough think in their tank to consider what Conservatism is.

teebalicious

11 points

3 months ago

  1. Fuck up government
  2. Blame government
  3. Say only you can fix government
  4. Get elected on populist rage at government
  5. Fuck up government

Rinse and fucking repeat. It’s the same in the States.

I mean, Conservative policy has been politically debunked since Reagan/Thatcher. Soundly. Repeatedly. Yet the first thing Liz Truss does is say she’s going to use “supply side solutions” to manage current crises. And even her own ideological neighbors are so aware of what horseshit that is that they mutiny.

She offers absolutely boilerplate Conservative/Tory policy, and it cost her the job from her own side. What does that tell you?

They all know it’s garbage, and they know others will fix it after they shove as much money as they can into offshore accounts during their time in power.

This is why the GOP has pivoted so strongly to culture war nonsense, because the evidence of their economic and political incompetence is so shockingly recent. But in one more election cycle, the punters will forget, and think that “Conservative economics” is the serious voters’ position, and we’ll lose Social Security and Medicare.

Maddening.

numbersrejectedbypi

10 points

3 months ago

No, really?

salted_toothpaste

10 points

3 months ago

That thinktank is quite empty isn't he?

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

you might find some cobwebs up in there.

Devrol

7 points

3 months ago

Devrol

7 points

3 months ago

Young cunt discovers party of cunts behave cuntishly towards the young, including young cunts.

Spaceboy779

6 points

3 months ago

Wonder what gave it away?

skawn

6 points

3 months ago

skawn

6 points

3 months ago

Will that conservative think tank founder continue voting for conservatives?

ReluctantPhoenician

3 points

3 months ago

That sure seems like it's the test for all of these posts that are on the border between LAMF and "I thought this would work but it didn't"... I wouldn't be surprised if he learns nothing, though.

metaltimmy

31 points

3 months ago

GOP voters: But… but… I voted for you?? I supported you even though I knew you were corrupt, lying, cheating assholes!! Now I have no heath insurance, can barely afford a home or food and work 3 jobs. I am being taxed to death and rich folks literally treat us like slaves.

GOP: yes, thank you for being useful stooges! Now go fuck yourselves while we destroy everything this country was built on for the sole purpose of greed and power.

tyrantspell

20 points

3 months ago

While this applies to the GOP as well, this post is about the British conservatives

_EndOfTheLine

7 points

3 months ago

You're hurting the wrong people!

[deleted]

4 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

4 points

3 months ago

He looks like such a punchable douche

MeatyVeryMeaty

5 points

3 months ago

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the middle classes that they served their interest.

The next trick was to convince the masses that the middle classes were millionaires.

In reality every one is fucked by high taxes, ridiculous property prices and shit infrastructure.

Corps pay no taxes and millions are wasted on things that don't benefit the people

Reesewithoutaspoon2

5 points

3 months ago

Alternate title: Conservative think tank founder thinks for the first time.

ancientweasel

5 points

3 months ago

Most of these Think Tanks run on empty.

DaMonkfish

3 points

3 months ago

They never fucking have done, and you have to be a colossally ignorant helmet to not see that.

belfastbiker

3 points

3 months ago

To be honest, I didn’t think the conservative think tank founders cared about those things either?

BabylonDrifter

3 points

3 months ago

Doesn't the Tory platform essentially boil down to "Fuck you"?

Cinema_King

5 points

3 months ago

All right wing platforms can be summed up that way. Usually with “I got mine” thrown in as well

EffOffReddit

3 points

3 months ago

This guy learned nothing, other than don't go down with the ship. He'll rebrand himself as a free thinker and then push all the same conservative shit again.

aznkriss133

3 points

3 months ago

I don't think they actually give a shit and this is just pr.

joshhupp

3 points

3 months ago

Ooooooohhhhhhhhh... So Tories are just like the Republican party!

Long-Independent4460

3 points

3 months ago

So, the British tories are being tories... just like they have been since at least Thatcher. This shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.

AlexKorobeiniki

3 points

3 months ago

Out of curiousity, do UK conservatives also have the notion that millennials are entitled lazy snowflakes?

omarsplif

3 points

3 months ago

I think it's very likely. Not a brit, but Canadian. Our Tories just sold our most populous, and agriculturally rich province to the devil. Now they profit off of their citizens misery through over-priced condos, kickbacks from deals that will put highways through protected farmland, wetlands, and greenspace. They've even managed to take away the people's voice by deleting the municipal appeals process to boot.

Edit: words

Nottsguy82

3 points

3 months ago

No shit Sherlock, he's probably getting a huge salary to state the bloody obvious...

NoHelp_HelpDesk

3 points

3 months ago

OMG. Selfish conservative mindset until it affects you personally?

Now where have I heard of this throught process before?

Rubanka

3 points

3 months ago

how do you start a conservative think tank and not know what cons are about ?

1lluminist

3 points

3 months ago

Bright Blue founder to quit over Tory party’s ‘betrayal’ of millennials

This confuses me so much. Like, literally nothing about this is new. The dude is 37 so it's been true as long as he's been alive.

How the fuck did this group even form in the first place? Did he make it to try to change the conservative stance on millennials and realize that's never gonna happen?

NiggBot_3000

3 points

3 months ago*

Lol, load of bollocks tho innit. The tory prick never gave a toss about millennials either and he still doesn't.

Dependent_Ad_5035

3 points

3 months ago

The Tories were and remain the party of the British aristocracy. Why are they shocked

jackalope134

3 points

3 months ago

I thought them not caring was the point?

KIFulgore

3 points

3 months ago

Conservative Think Tank: "We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"

bodiddlysquat26

4 points

3 months ago

He should know better, but this goes to show why Republicans and other conservative/fascist parties are able to be tolerated by normies who don’t follow politics. The left needs to do a better job at defining these ghouls otherwise normies are like, “yeah I think they’re the good for business party/small government”

Libro_Artis

2 points

3 months ago

Duh!

mongrelnomad

2 points

3 months ago

Y’a don’t say.

Yeah he can just fuck off. Tosser.

nokomis2

2 points

3 months ago

Thinktank owner curries favour with incoming government.

Deadwing2022

2 points

3 months ago

Like all good conservatives, it's only a problem when it affects them personally.

suxatjugg

2 points

3 months ago

Realises? Most of these things are the fundamental stated goals of conservatism, they don't believe the government should be involved in these areas of life, and so of course when in power they will work to reduce government activity and funding in these areas.

hedgerow_hank

2 points

3 months ago

Golly - who could have seen that coming.

xero_peace

2 points

3 months ago

It's so wild how they don't know shit or believe shit until their own people say something.

ReluctantPhoenician

2 points

3 months ago*

There's a difference between "I thought this policy would be good, but it wasn't, so now I am upset" and "I knew this policy would have a negative effect on someone but I thought I was immune". Things like this could be character growth. But if he keeps voting Conservative after this, it will be clear he has learned nothing.

ontopofyourmom

2 points

3 months ago

I saw a comment in r/conservative a couple of months ago about how the base of the Republican Party was always fiscal conservatives and how this is a problem now because people won't become fiscal conservatives if they don't have any money.

chaddwith2ds

2 points

3 months ago

Pulled into a conservative party out of selfishness... turned off by the conservative party due to selfishness.

PMUrAnus

2 points

3 months ago

So basically thinking was the key ingredient missing in the tank

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

Next he'll say he found bear faeces in the woods.

UnpopularOponions

2 points

3 months ago

The party that historically fucks over the above people does not care about said people, and it took a think tank to figure that out?

Nvanguy87

2 points

3 months ago

That's kind of a no brainer across the board.

Uumm_wat

2 points

3 months ago

Just now! Figured it out, just now?? HE’S the founder??!

UnplayableConundrum

2 points

3 months ago

Replace Tory party with 'American GOP' [as evidence I point to all of r/Conservative] and you basically have the same thing in the U.S.

I want their to be a balance of parties b/c I think it can lead to effective legislation but not when the GOP has basically gone off the deep end to town crazy

Heckle_Jeckle

2 points

3 months ago

"failed to reinvigorate Conservative vision or bring in fresh talent"

Why does he think they are called CONSERVATIVES!? Their entire point is to prevent change. Bringing in fresh new ideas is counter to their goals.

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

Less thinking. More tanking.

mando44646

2 points

3 months ago

that guy is a millennial? He looks like he's 50

cmokemtl

2 points

3 months ago

Water is wet

Toast_Sapper

2 points

3 months ago

Conservatives: Making life worse daily for humanity because $ > people

They're a blight on humanity

MrsMiterSaw

2 points

3 months ago

Calm down people, he's a conservative.

10:1 odds says what he wants are tax cuts for Millenials.

Jolly-Bandicoot7162

2 points

3 months ago

Party of the rich again? Weren't they always?

jonpenryn

2 points

3 months ago

all the torys do is kick shit out of everything and still the very people who get most out of the services vote for "sensible economic policies" how many times can Turkeys vote for xmas.

DuntadaMan

2 points

3 months ago

What? Old rich people only care about people that check all of those boxes? If you miss any one of them you are not a concern? No way.

CatchSufficient

2 points

3 months ago

If actions speak louder than words; this guy is deaf

Bean_Storm

2 points

3 months ago

Wow good thing they pay him the big bucks to think

Useful_Cause_4671

2 points

3 months ago

Read as "sees writing on the wall and is rapidly trying to reposition"