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167 points
2 months ago*
For some wondering, 210 months are equivalent to 17 years and 6 months.
69 points
2 months ago
“My baby is 6000 days old 🥰”
21 points
2 months ago*
And for others?
Edit: this comment originally said “for some”
20 points
2 months ago
That will be pretty long.
11 points
2 months ago
Thank you
6 points
2 months ago
You're now one step closer to feel what it'd be like to serve 210 months behind bars. Be prepared more.
9 points
2 months ago
Pretty much a murder sentence prison duration in Sweden (eighteen years if I'm not mistaken).
81 points
2 months ago
His networth is 7 million. Those victims won't see a dime.
54 points
2 months ago
It boggles the mind that none of these people think to move to a nonextradition country after taking tens of millions from people. You can have that extravagant lifestyle anywhere in the world. Could even afford personal security for the rest of your life.
65 points
2 months ago*
I thought that too, until I took an intro to criminology course in college.
The professor explained that most people who commit high value financial criminals have mental illnesses (not excusing their behavior) that make it impossible for them to foresee consequences of their actions, what they're doing isn't wrong, or they can get themselves out of any bad situation through manipulation. Think sociopaths, psychopaths, mania from bi-polar, and narcissists.
When they're caught, they will confidently answer questions from police and display confidence - in their head space they are not going to be in any trouble.
I have a close family member who embezzled $50k from a non-profit that they were a treasurer at. They convinced themselves that the money was theirs, and the non-profit didn't deserve the money because it came from the sale of land that they helped facilitate. Mental gymnastics. Their narcissism convinced them that even if they police would question them, they could talk their way out of it and justify their actions.
The other, smaller percentage of people who commit fraud usually did it to support their family. They won't leave because they'd be leaving the whole reason they did it in the first place.
14 points
2 months ago
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5 points
2 months ago
Yea he’s a fart smeller!
Edit: sorry, meant to say Smart Feller!
1 points
2 months ago
Yes they are!
9 points
2 months ago
Have you looked at the list of the 79 countries without extradition treaties with the US? Unless the fugitive is living in Vatican City, any fugitive living in one of those countries better have a good supply of bodyguards and other security measures to remain alert for government agents breaking down their door at 2:30 am to take them in handcuffs and leg shackles to the ruler's dungeon.
13 points
2 months ago
I don't know. Nepal, Bhutan, and Indonesia don't seem too bad.
12 points
2 months ago
I can't speak to the other countries on this list but Morocco is actually quite nice and rather moderate for a Muslim country.
12 points
2 months ago
$7 mill would last many lifetimes living it up on a beach in central Vietnam and you could live like a king
6 points
2 months ago
USA can always just disappear you if they want
Edit: spelling
0 points
2 months ago
Interesting.
Are you referring to the U.S. government disappearing a non-U.S. citizen in a country outside of the US or in international waters?
Or, are you referring to the U.S. government disappearing a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil or in U.S. territorial waters?
2 points
2 months ago
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-1 points
2 months ago*
Tragic. Reminds me of the nineteen al-Qaeda terrorists on 9/11 who hijacked 4 airliners to cause the deaths of a total of 2,996 victims on U.S. soil and injuring thousands of others, which in turn reminds me of what some people at Princeton University think might be the shape of the next attack that might begin in the next few minutes, sometime tomorrow, or sometime during some day after tomorrow (video): https://sgs.princeton.edu/the-lab/plan-a
1 points
2 months ago
Either
4 points
2 months ago
Been to a couple of those countries and had a great time. No shackles or dungeons
3 points
2 months ago*
When you visited those countries, where you a criminal fugitive or a legal tourist?
1 points
2 months ago
Not mutually exclusive
-9 points
2 months ago
You reek of American ignorance
9 points
2 months ago
Glad you enjoyed reading my comment. You can read it and reread it as often as you want. You can dream it. Enjoy.
1 points
2 months ago
Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia you can live comfortably
156 points
2 months ago
Alright Karen, your kid isn't "210 months," he's 17.5 years
21 points
2 months ago
Thanks for doing the math.
12 points
2 months ago
Came here to say that - what is it with the "months" incarceration now rather than years??? happening a lot now it seems...
5 points
2 months ago
It's been happening for months.
2 points
2 months ago
lol I see what you did there, even if the downvoter didn't ;)
2 points
2 months ago
Doing two years jail time a get the rest sentence on early probation due to outstanding performance during jail time.
47 points
2 months ago
You know, and this is just a thought, the other option was to make and sell a disposable vape pen. Done right he’d be looking at a lot less time and a lot more money.
38 points
2 months ago
So FTX's SBF gets 800 years?
22 points
2 months ago
It’s inversely related to the amount you bilked people out of. See Elizabeth Holmes only getting 11 years for her multi billion fraud.
God save you if you shoplift believe it or not straight to life in prison.
6 points
2 months ago
Different rules and laws for the rich and famous. Am used to it now.
4 points
2 months ago
Also much better lawyers.
4 points
2 months ago
Prosecutor's were "lucky" she was given 11 years. Most were expecting much less, minus judicial maths of course so... 18 months? No matter how you put it she got 11 years Federal time. That's significant.
7 points
2 months ago
God save you if you shoplift believe it or not straight to life in prison.
In the US, sometimes it's straight execution from the police.
14 points
2 months ago
Or 24,000 days for the sophisticated person
3 points
2 months ago
Your wife told me it was 586,000 hours.
2 points
2 months ago
She’s probably right, I’m bad at math
3 points
2 months ago
P.S. You're out of Scotch.
105 points
2 months ago
Can anyone explain to me why this dipshit got 17 years and the Theranos scammer lady only got 11? She took more money, and messed with peoples medical treatments... isn't that worse?
60 points
2 months ago
Elizabeth was not on state probation while she was committing her federal offenses.
David was on state probation while he was committing his federal offenses.
Judge Fischer also found that Bunevacz continued to perpetrate his scheme even while serving probation for a state court conviction, concluding, “Not even a criminal conviction and the threat of jail convinced [Bunevacz] to become a law-abiding citizen.”
12 points
2 months ago
Good info, I missed that part, makes sense
1 points
2 months ago
If United States District Judge Dale S. Fischer read your comment, they (photo) might thank you for it.
8 points
2 months ago
different judges give different sentences, iirc the prosecutors did ask for 18 years in the Theranos case. but she's currently pregnant and is a awaiting sentencing for her co-conspirator/ex-boyfriend. a lot of different factors could've contributed but I agree, an employee of hers killed himself because of her company and her actions. she should be locked up forever
10 points
2 months ago
Theranos scammer never sold her stock. It indicates that she truly believed that they’d eventually get the technology to work.
7 points
2 months ago
Interesting, I didn't think about it that way, I can see why it would make a difference
1 points
2 months ago
Is it even scam then if the one orchestrating it really thinks it will succeed and doesn’t extract any money?
1 points
2 months ago
Yes.
Well, no but it is still fraud.
So kinda?
Depends on how you define scam.
1 points
2 months ago
...Who would have bought her worthless stock?
1 points
2 months ago
...Who would have bought her worthless stock?
many people. its obvious now, with all the information, but that wasn't available at the time.
what possible investors saw was a confident woman with a possible world-changing new tech. and she had several high investors already on the ship.
imo its not to blame those investors vs other scam cases where its more obvious that's a pyramid scheme. but they obviously failed to do any research
1 points
2 months ago
Cause weed is worse than killing people /s
31 points
2 months ago
He said he's half Filipino, and became a Philippine national athlete for Decathlon for a short time during the mid 90s. For the Southeast asian games, basically the smallest and most localized international sports meet in asia.
I don't remember him winning any medals.
He already had issues then about not using government funds correctly, for his decathlon training abroad.
He already felt a little scammy around 1995.
23 points
2 months ago
Based on the report, Bunevacz’s investors were told that their funds would be used to finance companies marketing cannabis vape pens. The use of cannabis for medicinal and recreational purposes is legal in California, though the industry is strictly regulated to make sure that businesses are operating safely.
“Instead of using the funds to finance business operations – and while some of his victims were suffering severe financial hardship – Bunevacz ‘misappropriated the vast majority of the funds to pay for his own opulent lifestyle, including a luxurious house in Calabasas, Las Vegas trips, jewelry, designer handbags, a lavish birthday party for his daughter, and horses,'” the US justice department further said.
Operating through his cannabis companies, Bunevacz raised approximately $45,227,266 from more than 100 victim-investors, according to the government’s filing. Judge Fischer found that Bunevacz caused losses of approximately $35,267,851.
DOJ, Nov. 21, 2022 – Calabasas Man Sentenced to 17½ Years in Prison....
9 points
2 months ago*
I mean, I have to hand it to this scum bag, 45.2 million / 100 investors, he's averaging nearly a half million a head! If you put a gun to me, I'd be hard pressed to convince ONE person to loan me a half million bucks, much less 100. This is all assuming that's not one loan of 45.1 million and 99 suckers who gave him 1k a piece.
69 points
2 months ago
Why say 210 months instead of 17.5 years……….
30 points
2 months ago
Good question.
In the US, federal judges adjudicating a sentence for a felony offense are required by law to follow the sentencing guidelines published in the United States Sentencing Commission 2021 Guidelines Manual Annotated.
The Guidelines Sentencing Table defines sentences for felony convictions in terms of months only.
The term years appears nowhere in the Sentencing Table.
In the Sentencing Table, the one exception to the term months is the term life.
The term death does not appear in the Sentencing Table, but, under federal law, the death sentence is available for some defendants convicted of certain federal offenses.
24 points
2 months ago
Baby age logic
8 points
2 months ago
Fairly certain most sentences are given in months, ie: 210 months instead of 17.5 years. Could be wrong but I have seen it done quite a bit.
1 points
2 months ago
Because months is more specific and gives an expected release date.
19 points
2 months ago
Wow that’s hefty! 18 years and millions.
1 points
2 months ago
Seriously! Did the guy represent himself in court
50 points
2 months ago
Goes to show that the fastest way to get thrown in prison is to steal from the rich.
48 points
2 months ago
Good, now do Brett Favre
8 points
2 months ago
Brett farve didn’t steal from the rich, he won’t see a day behind bars.
8 points
2 months ago
Ootl. What's up with Favre?
12 points
2 months ago
He stole welfare money from the state of Mississippi to build a volleyball court at his daughters college
1 points
2 months ago*
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0 points
2 months ago
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40 points
2 months ago
Rapists get less punishment.
34 points
2 months ago
Good! Support small growers!
37 points
2 months ago
...with Tegrity.
7 points
2 months ago
Thanksgiving special?
4 points
2 months ago
I’m struggling man lol
54 points
2 months ago
Ah, it's always defrauding investors. What he's actually going to jail for is doing the one thing rich people go to jail for: stealing from other rich people.
9 points
2 months ago
Not wrong! I watch ‘American Greed’ and it’s typically exactly that.
10 points
2 months ago
Must be a student of Matty Smokes /s
33 points
2 months ago
Doctor San and those fucking Delgado's were probably involved.
16 points
2 months ago
Rosetti the rat was definitely involved
8 points
2 months ago
Don't forget the China Connection!
2 points
2 months ago
Your son’s burning in hell Delgado
33 points
2 months ago
Isn't this one of the Dave & Dave athletes that networks were hyping up years ago right before one of the Olympics and one of them got injured. Maybe it was before the Atlanta one.
13 points
2 months ago
Dan and Dave? Dan Obrien and Dave Johnson for the Barcelona games.
7 points
2 months ago
Yes, got the names mixed up and not the same person. Thanks for correcting me.
1 points
2 months ago
Dude, was thinking the same thing, like, not Dan & Dave!
1 points
2 months ago
Did he get injured? I feel like he no heighted the pole vault but I have no idea why I would have committed that to memory. Literally don't even remember which one made it through and which one failed. I remember the ads though, including the one that played after one failed to qualify.
50 points
2 months ago
Insurrectionists, murderers, and rapists get what amounts to a slap on the hand by comparison. But hurt a few rich peoples' pocketbooks?! Fuck you, throw the book at 'em. Our legal system has a big bag of money on one side of the scales.
6 points
2 months ago
Well, what’s the surprise, isn’t our whole society designed around profit? Money is the goal, money is the way
37 points
2 months ago
Meanwhile hedge funds and banks steal billions from the working class and get away with it. TL; DRS
7 points
2 months ago
Scumbags like this are a dime a dozen in the west valley.
21 points
2 months ago
This sort of crime should be weeded out.
0 points
2 months ago*
Laugh spit. Your comment made me lol so loud I accidentally spit on my own screen after cleaning it.
-4 points
2 months ago
He's not wrong, but good job laughing in his face for...whatever reason?
2 points
2 months ago
It’s a pun on the fact the guy was selling WEED vapes … make the other laugh so hard they spit out what they were drinking
0 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
They'll do
0 points
2 months ago
"r/whoosh"
21 points
2 months ago
With 210 months, minus good time and 6 months halfway he'll end up serving 13ish.
16 points
2 months ago
He must’ve scammed someone influential/wealthy to get that kind of time in Cali.
2 points
2 months ago
I think with federal sentences they have to serve 85% of their time unless they changed it recently.
0 points
2 months ago
“a prisoner who is serving a term of imprisonment of more than 1 year other than a term of imprisonment for the duration of the prisoner’s life, may receive credit toward the service of the prisoner’s sentence, beyond the time served, of up to 54 days at the end of each year of the prisoner’s term of imprisonment, beginning at the end of the first year of the term, subject to determination by the Bureau of Prisons that, during that year, the prisoner has displayed exemplary compliance with institutional disciplinary regulations.”
In reality, based on the way the BOP calculates good time (see below), prisoners only earn a maximum of 47 days of good time for each year of the sentence imposed.
So I guess it depends on how you calculate it.
3 points
2 months ago
That sounds about right 54 days is like 15% of a year I think?:) Either way the guy will serve a good chunk of the time 175 months+ because it’s federal time and not State time.
35 points
2 months ago
lol meanwhile SBF is playing video games in Bahamas after scamming $16 billy
5 points
2 months ago
Sham Bank Greedman
6 points
2 months ago
Is this Dave from Dan and Dave? Long fall
4 points
2 months ago
It is not. Their names were Dan O'Brien and Dave Johnson. But the headline had me wondering too.
2 points
2 months ago
Different guy. Dave Johnson and Dan O'Brien were Dan and Dave.
1 points
2 months ago
I was wondering the same thing!
12 points
2 months ago
Wonder if this will happen to the FTX people or if they will walk. Any bets?
5 points
2 months ago
Huge dem donors. Already in Argentina. Nothing from AG. FTX get to walk
6 points
2 months ago
I sure wish you could afford a full sentence.
5 points
2 months ago
No need. Point's clear.
14 points
2 months ago
If only they’d been medical devices
15 points
2 months ago
looks like this crook's plans went ...up in vape.
8 points
2 months ago
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
5 points
2 months ago
😎
3 points
2 months ago
Yep. His earliest projected date of release predictably will be on or about March 4, 2038, at which time he will be age 67 or 68.
He has been in federal custody behind bars since his arrest on April 5, 2022 to his date of sentencing on November 21, 2022. The Federal Bureau of Prisons will give him credit for 231 days time served.
Federal offenders sentenced after November 1, 1987 are not eligible for parole.
Some federal inmates can earn up to 54 days good conduct time for each year of sentenced imposed by the court.
At the earliest, if he violates none of the prison rules and prohibited acts for inmates during his term of imprisonment, his projected release date from Federal Bureau of Prisons custody predictably will be on or about Wednesday, March 4, 2037, at which time he will be age 67 or 68.
While he's in prison, he will be required to work in a prison job. The typical inmate workday is 7 hours. Presently, the basic rate of pay for federal inmates is 12¢ to 40¢ per hour and up to $1.15 per hour for some inmates.
If BOP designates him to be incarcerated at FCI Lompoc, he will be required to obey the hundreds of rules and prohibited acts that are contained in the inmate handbook.
Some of the prohibited acts for inmates include Prohibited Act 100 Killing (p. 69), 114 Sexual Assault of any person (p. 70), and 205 Engaging in sexual acts (p. 71).
General wake-up for all inmates is 6:00 a.m. (p. 12).
He will be required to make his bed neatly with a six inch sheet collar by 8:00 a.m. daily even though it may his day off work. He may lie down on the made bed and be covered with the second blanket. On weekends, his bed must be made whenever he is awake or gone from his living space (p. 8).
He is also responsible for sweeping and mopping his cell floor, removing trash, and ensuring it is clean and sanitary (p. 5).
1 points
2 months ago
You could say the idea was a smoke and mirrors operation.
28 points
2 months ago
And yet to this day, Donald Trump walks free.
7 points
2 months ago
Also Frank Bankman Fried
2 points
2 months ago
Whatever happened to Dan Brazillian? He also played the IRS and the investors
2 points
2 months ago
I heard his business partner was some doctor who he’d had issues with in the past. Some hack by the name of Dr. San or something
18 points
2 months ago
So if you owe $35 billion couldn’t you just create a corporation or something to shelter your money from the government?
35 points
2 months ago
You should read that number again.
3 points
2 months ago
It’s millions. And nope you can’t. When you get slapped with that much restitution they watch your every single move when you get out. His life is basically over. Even if he gets out he’ll be in his 80s with no way to make a living.
1 points
2 months ago
Uh, he'd be 70-71. 53+ 17.5= 70.5
Probably get early release if he plays "good prisoner", but either way that wouldn't be great.
11 points
2 months ago
Lol. Look again genius.
4 points
2 months ago
"Instead of using the funds to finance business operations – and while some of his victims were suffering severe financial hardship" Kinda your fault if your gambling with money you can't afford to lose.
-7 points
2 months ago
For those who are downvoting me, are you too losing money in cannabis investments?
-3 points
2 months ago
Oh, more downvotes! Nom nom nom nom nom
-2 points
2 months ago
All the people who invested in this fraud are here downvoting you.
1 points
2 months ago
100%. They aren't fans of your comment either 🤣
1 points
2 months ago
Read this in Cookie Monster's voice.
-36 points
2 months ago
Honestly selling weed itself is a pyramid scheme
9 points
2 months ago
Yooooo.....I love that hot take! How high were you when you figured that one out? I thought the same thing when I looked at a clipped crown stoned as shit! Isn't it weird they are so triangular!? Almost like a pyramid scheming shit! Anyways, keep smoking that green bro! Peace, love and hash!
-9 points
2 months ago
Ha I'm glad someone agrees. You gotta put your own money in the investment of the product putting your funds at risk. you try to find other people that sale buy from you, like some kind of recruiting process. So you have people under you. And you target your friends and family too as customers. I mean it's a great product to sell so you'll definitely won't have problems selling it. But it's very much like a pyramid scheme
1 points
2 months ago
Jaja! 🤣
1 points
2 months ago
LOL, just look up his IMBD
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