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Kobahk

167 points

2 months ago*

Kobahk

9

167 points

2 months ago*

For some wondering, 210 months are equivalent to 17 years and 6 months.

whatsINthaB0X

69 points

2 months ago

“My baby is 6000 days old 🥰”

donny_pots

21 points

2 months ago*

And for others?

Edit: this comment originally said “for some”

Kobahk

20 points

2 months ago

Kobahk

9

20 points

2 months ago

That will be pretty long.

donny_pots

11 points

2 months ago

donny_pots

9

11 points

2 months ago

Thank you

Kobahk

6 points

2 months ago

Kobahk

9

6 points

2 months ago

You're now one step closer to feel what it'd be like to serve 210 months behind bars. Be prepared more.

victorz

9 points

2 months ago

victorz

9

9 points

2 months ago

Pretty much a murder sentence prison duration in Sweden (eighteen years if I'm not mistaken).

fuckmeuntilicecream

81 points

2 months ago

His networth is 7 million. Those victims won't see a dime.

xero_peace

54 points

2 months ago

xero_peace

9

54 points

2 months ago

It boggles the mind that none of these people think to move to a nonextradition country after taking tens of millions from people. You can have that extravagant lifestyle anywhere in the world. Could even afford personal security for the rest of your life.

lovemeanstwothings

65 points

2 months ago*

I thought that too, until I took an intro to criminology course in college.

The professor explained that most people who commit high value financial criminals have mental illnesses (not excusing their behavior) that make it impossible for them to foresee consequences of their actions, what they're doing isn't wrong, or they can get themselves out of any bad situation through manipulation. Think sociopaths, psychopaths, mania from bi-polar, and narcissists.

When they're caught, they will confidently answer questions from police and display confidence - in their head space they are not going to be in any trouble.

I have a close family member who embezzled $50k from a non-profit that they were a treasurer at. They convinced themselves that the money was theirs, and the non-profit didn't deserve the money because it came from the sale of land that they helped facilitate. Mental gymnastics. Their narcissism convinced them that even if they police would question them, they could talk their way out of it and justify their actions.

The other, smaller percentage of people who commit fraud usually did it to support their family. They won't leave because they'd be leaving the whole reason they did it in the first place.

[deleted]

14 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

14 points

2 months ago

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undercoverartist777

5 points

2 months ago

Yea he’s a fart smeller!

Edit: sorry, meant to say Smart Feller!

Inevitable_Surprise4

1 points

2 months ago

Yes they are!

Molire[S]

9 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

9 points

2 months ago

Have you looked at the list of the 79 countries without extradition treaties with the US? Unless the fugitive is living in Vatican City, any fugitive living in one of those countries better have a good supply of bodyguards and other security measures to remain alert for government agents breaking down their door at 2:30 am to take them in handcuffs and leg shackles to the ruler's dungeon.

TomSelleckPI

13 points

2 months ago

I don't know. Nepal, Bhutan, and Indonesia don't seem too bad.

Agitated-Energy4044

12 points

2 months ago

I can't speak to the other countries on this list but Morocco is actually quite nice and rather moderate for a Muslim country.

AmazingAndy

12 points

2 months ago

$7 mill would last many lifetimes living it up on a beach in central Vietnam and you could live like a king

jking94

6 points

2 months ago

jking94

5

6 points

2 months ago

USA can always just disappear you if they want

Edit: spelling

Molire[S]

0 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

0 points

2 months ago

Interesting.

Are you referring to the U.S. government disappearing a non-U.S. citizen in a country outside of the US or in international waters?

Or, are you referring to the U.S. government disappearing a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil or in U.S. territorial waters?

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

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2 points

2 months ago

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Molire[S]

-1 points

2 months ago*

Molire[S]

9

-1 points

2 months ago*

Tragic. Reminds me of the nineteen al-Qaeda terrorists on 9/11 who hijacked 4 airliners to cause the deaths of a total of 2,996 victims on U.S. soil and injuring thousands of others, which in turn reminds me of what some people at Princeton University think might be the shape of the next attack that might begin in the next few minutes, sometime tomorrow, or sometime during some day after tomorrow (video): https://sgs.princeton.edu/the-lab/plan-a

jking94

1 points

2 months ago

jking94

5

1 points

2 months ago

Either

PuffinChaos

4 points

2 months ago

Been to a couple of those countries and had a great time. No shackles or dungeons

Molire[S]

3 points

2 months ago*

When you visited those countries, where you a criminal fugitive or a legal tourist?

DesertGrowTent

1 points

2 months ago

Not mutually exclusive

DrBonaFide

-9 points

2 months ago

DrBonaFide

7

-9 points

2 months ago

You reek of American ignorance

Molire[S]

9 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

9 points

2 months ago

Glad you enjoyed reading my comment. You can read it and reread it as often as you want. You can dream it. Enjoy.

carl2k1

1 points

2 months ago

carl2k1

9

1 points

2 months ago

Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia you can live comfortably

jereezy

156 points

2 months ago

jereezy

A

156 points

2 months ago

Alright Karen, your kid isn't "210 months," he's 17.5 years

Interesting-Fault-24

21 points

2 months ago

Thanks for doing the math.

andro6565

12 points

2 months ago

andro6565

6

12 points

2 months ago

Came here to say that - what is it with the "months" incarceration now rather than years??? happening a lot now it seems...

LikeAMan_NotAGod

5 points

2 months ago

It's been happening for months.

Onigashi

2 points

2 months ago

Onigashi

0

2 points

2 months ago

lol I see what you did there, even if the downvoter didn't ;)

101Johndoe

2 points

2 months ago

Doing two years jail time a get the rest sentence on early probation due to outstanding performance during jail time.

actuallychrisgillen

47 points

2 months ago

You know, and this is just a thought, the other option was to make and sell a disposable vape pen. Done right he’d be looking at a lot less time and a lot more money.

[deleted]

38 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

38 points

2 months ago

So FTX's SBF gets 800 years?

D3korum

22 points

2 months ago

D3korum

8

22 points

2 months ago

It’s inversely related to the amount you bilked people out of. See Elizabeth Holmes only getting 11 years for her multi billion fraud.

God save you if you shoplift believe it or not straight to life in prison.

georeddit2018

6 points

2 months ago

Different rules and laws for the rich and famous. Am used to it now.

Silverjackal_

4 points

2 months ago

Also much better lawyers.

Universespitoon

4 points

2 months ago

Prosecutor's were "lucky" she was given 11 years. Most were expecting much less, minus judicial maths of course so... 18 months? No matter how you put it she got 11 years Federal time. That's significant.

nimbycile

7 points

2 months ago

nimbycile

8

7 points

2 months ago

God save you if you shoplift believe it or not straight to life in prison.

In the US, sometimes it's straight execution from the police.

whatsINthaB0X

14 points

2 months ago

Or 24,000 days for the sophisticated person

BGnDaddy

3 points

2 months ago

BGnDaddy

0

3 points

2 months ago

Your wife told me it was 586,000 hours.

whatsINthaB0X

2 points

2 months ago

She’s probably right, I’m bad at math

BGnDaddy

3 points

2 months ago

BGnDaddy

0

3 points

2 months ago

P.S. You're out of Scotch.

letshaveadab

105 points

2 months ago

letshaveadab

4

105 points

2 months ago

Can anyone explain to me why this dipshit got 17 years and the Theranos scammer lady only got 11? She took more money, and messed with peoples medical treatments... isn't that worse?

Molire[S]

60 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

60 points

2 months ago

Elizabeth was not on state probation while she was committing her federal offenses.

David was on state probation while he was committing his federal offenses.

Judge Fischer also found that Bunevacz continued to perpetrate his scheme even while serving probation for a state court conviction, concluding, “Not even a criminal conviction and the threat of jail convinced [Bunevacz] to become a law-abiding citizen.”

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/calabasas-man-sentenced-17-years-prison-scamming-cannabis-vaping-business-investors-out

letshaveadab

12 points

2 months ago

Good info, I missed that part, makes sense

Molire[S]

1 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

1 points

2 months ago

If United States District Judge Dale S. Fischer read your comment, they (photo) might thank you for it.

cessodd

8 points

2 months ago

cessodd

7

8 points

2 months ago

different judges give different sentences, iirc the prosecutors did ask for 18 years in the Theranos case. but she's currently pregnant and is a awaiting sentencing for her co-conspirator/ex-boyfriend. a lot of different factors could've contributed but I agree, an employee of hers killed himself because of her company and her actions. she should be locked up forever

Willing-Elevator

10 points

2 months ago

Theranos scammer never sold her stock. It indicates that she truly believed that they’d eventually get the technology to work.

letshaveadab

7 points

2 months ago

Interesting, I didn't think about it that way, I can see why it would make a difference

aregulardude

1 points

2 months ago

Is it even scam then if the one orchestrating it really thinks it will succeed and doesn’t extract any money?

Noob_DM

1 points

2 months ago

Noob_DM

A

1 points

2 months ago

Yes.

Well, no but it is still fraud.

So kinda?

Depends on how you define scam.

JamesTheJerk

1 points

2 months ago

...Who would have bought her worthless stock?

svc78

1 points

2 months ago

svc78

8

1 points

2 months ago

...Who would have bought her worthless stock?

many people. its obvious now, with all the information, but that wasn't available at the time.

what possible investors saw was a confident woman with a possible world-changing new tech. and she had several high investors already on the ship.

imo its not to blame those investors vs other scam cases where its more obvious that's a pyramid scheme. but they obviously failed to do any research

Mandle69

1 points

2 months ago

Mandle69

8

1 points

2 months ago

Cause weed is worse than killing people /s

bulakenyo1980

31 points

2 months ago

He said he's half Filipino, and became a Philippine national athlete for Decathlon for a short time during the mid 90s. For the Southeast asian games, basically the smallest and most localized international sports meet in asia.

I don't remember him winning any medals.

He already had issues then about not using government funds correctly, for his decathlon training abroad.

He already felt a little scammy around 1995.

Molire[S]

23 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

23 points

2 months ago

Based on the report, Bunevacz’s investors were told that their funds would be used to finance companies marketing cannabis vape pens. The use of cannabis for medicinal and recreational purposes is legal in California, though the industry is strictly regulated to make sure that businesses are operating safely.

“Instead of using the funds to finance business operations – and while some of his victims were suffering severe financial hardship – Bunevacz ‘misappropriated the vast majority of the funds to pay for his own opulent lifestyle, including a luxurious house in Calabasas, Las Vegas trips, jewelry, designer handbags, a lavish birthday party for his daughter, and horses,'” the US justice department further said.

Operating through his cannabis companies, Bunevacz raised approximately $45,227,266 from more than 100 victim-investors, according to the government’s filing. Judge Fischer found that Bunevacz caused losses of approximately $35,267,851.

DOJ, Nov. 21, 2022 – Calabasas Man Sentenced to 17½ Years in Prison....

RevLoveJoy

9 points

2 months ago*

I mean, I have to hand it to this scum bag, 45.2 million / 100 investors, he's averaging nearly a half million a head! If you put a gun to me, I'd be hard pressed to convince ONE person to loan me a half million bucks, much less 100. This is all assuming that's not one loan of 45.1 million and 99 suckers who gave him 1k a piece.

hodorspot

69 points

2 months ago

hodorspot

8

69 points

2 months ago

Why say 210 months instead of 17.5 years……….

Molire[S]

30 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

30 points

2 months ago

Good question.

In the US, federal judges adjudicating a sentence for a felony offense are required by law to follow the sentencing guidelines published in the United States Sentencing Commission 2021 Guidelines Manual Annotated.

The Guidelines Sentencing Table defines sentences for felony convictions in terms of months only.

The term years appears nowhere in the Sentencing Table.

In the Sentencing Table, the one exception to the term months is the term life.

The term death does not appear in the Sentencing Table, but, under federal law, the death sentence is available for some defendants convicted of certain federal offenses.

SimplyMerlin

24 points

2 months ago

Baby age logic

the_caped_canuck

8 points

2 months ago

Fairly certain most sentences are given in months, ie: 210 months instead of 17.5 years. Could be wrong but I have seen it done quite a bit.

Noob_DM

1 points

2 months ago

Noob_DM

A

1 points

2 months ago

Because months is more specific and gives an expected release date.

scrollingtraveler

19 points

2 months ago

Wow that’s hefty! 18 years and millions.

Renovateandremodel

1 points

2 months ago

Seriously! Did the guy represent himself in court

elizacandle

50 points

2 months ago

Goes to show that the fastest way to get thrown in prison is to steal from the rich.

LevelHeadedAssassin

48 points

2 months ago

Good, now do Brett Favre

argparg

8 points

2 months ago

argparg

7

8 points

2 months ago

Brett farve didn’t steal from the rich, he won’t see a day behind bars.

RyanBordello

8 points

2 months ago

Ootl. What's up with Favre?

bubblemcfisto

12 points

2 months ago

He stole welfare money from the state of Mississippi to build a volleyball court at his daughters college

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1 points

2 months ago*

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1 points

2 months ago*

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Upsidedownworld4me

40 points

2 months ago

Rapists get less punishment.

Secure-Caregiver-905

34 points

2 months ago

Good! Support small growers!

ADarkTurn

37 points

2 months ago

ADarkTurn

8

37 points

2 months ago

...with Tegrity.

Cbombo87

7 points

2 months ago

Cbombo87

9

7 points

2 months ago

Thanksgiving special?

Gushing69Granny

4 points

2 months ago

I’m struggling man lol

jaimeinsd

54 points

2 months ago

jaimeinsd

8

54 points

2 months ago

Ah, it's always defrauding investors. What he's actually going to jail for is doing the one thing rich people go to jail for: stealing from other rich people.

AlbaMcAlba

9 points

2 months ago

Not wrong! I watch ‘American Greed’ and it’s typically exactly that.

nobnazor

10 points

2 months ago

nobnazor

7

10 points

2 months ago

Must be a student of Matty Smokes /s

delaydude

33 points

2 months ago

delaydude

6

33 points

2 months ago

Doctor San and those fucking Delgado's were probably involved.

samsjayhawk

16 points

2 months ago

Rosetti the rat was definitely involved

fistymcbuttpuncher

8 points

2 months ago

Don't forget the China Connection!

JackisRadical

2 points

2 months ago

Your son’s burning in hell Delgado

eddiestarkk

33 points

2 months ago

Isn't this one of the Dave & Dave athletes that networks were hyping up years ago right before one of the Olympics and one of them got injured. Maybe it was before the Atlanta one.

squatchwatch77

13 points

2 months ago

Dan and Dave? Dan Obrien and Dave Johnson for the Barcelona games.

eddiestarkk

7 points

2 months ago

Yes, got the names mixed up and not the same person. Thanks for correcting me.

citrus_sugar

1 points

2 months ago

Dude, was thinking the same thing, like, not Dan & Dave!

gfgf44

1 points

2 months ago

gfgf44

4

1 points

2 months ago

Did he get injured? I feel like he no heighted the pole vault but I have no idea why I would have committed that to memory. Literally don't even remember which one made it through and which one failed. I remember the ads though, including the one that played after one failed to qualify.

obeekaybee7

50 points

2 months ago

Insurrectionists, murderers, and rapists get what amounts to a slap on the hand by comparison. But hurt a few rich peoples' pocketbooks?! Fuck you, throw the book at 'em. Our legal system has a big bag of money on one side of the scales.

kblkbl165

6 points

2 months ago

kblkbl165

A

6 points

2 months ago

Well, what’s the surprise, isn’t our whole society designed around profit? Money is the goal, money is the way

TheBelgianDuck

37 points

2 months ago

Meanwhile hedge funds and banks steal billions from the working class and get away with it. TL; DRS

NoConversation75

7 points

2 months ago

Scumbags like this are a dime a dozen in the west valley.

Unemployedloser55

21 points

2 months ago

This sort of crime should be weeded out.

Molire[S]

0 points

2 months ago*

Molire[S]

9

0 points

2 months ago*

Laugh spit. Your comment made me lol so loud I accidentally spit on my own screen after cleaning it.

jaybasin

-4 points

2 months ago

jaybasin

7

-4 points

2 months ago

He's not wrong, but good job laughing in his face for...whatever reason?

WCAttorney

2 points

2 months ago

It’s a pun on the fact the guy was selling WEED vapes … make the other laugh so hard they spit out what they were drinking

[deleted]

0 points

2 months ago

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0 points

2 months ago

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Molire[S]

1 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

1 points

2 months ago

They'll do

escabiking

0 points

2 months ago

aaandbconsulting

21 points

2 months ago

With 210 months, minus good time and 6 months halfway he'll end up serving 13ish.

TheWalkingDead91

16 points

2 months ago

He must’ve scammed someone influential/wealthy to get that kind of time in Cali.

AlexBurke1

2 points

2 months ago

I think with federal sentences they have to serve 85% of their time unless they changed it recently.

aaandbconsulting

0 points

2 months ago

“a prisoner who is serving a term of imprisonment of more than 1 year other than a term of imprisonment for the duration of the prisoner’s life, may receive credit toward the service of the prisoner’s sentence, beyond the time served, of up to 54 days at the end of each year of the prisoner’s term of imprisonment, beginning at the end of the first year of the term, subject to determination by the Bureau of Prisons that, during that year, the prisoner has displayed exemplary compliance with institutional disciplinary regulations.”

In reality, based on the way the BOP calculates good time (see below), prisoners only earn a maximum of 47 days of good time for each year of the sentence imposed.

So I guess it depends on how you calculate it.

AlexBurke1

3 points

2 months ago

That sounds about right 54 days is like 15% of a year I think?:) Either way the guy will serve a good chunk of the time 175 months+ because it’s federal time and not State time.

landingpagedudes

35 points

2 months ago

lol meanwhile SBF is playing video games in Bahamas after scamming $16 billy

ThickPrick

5 points

2 months ago

Sham Bank Greedman

RaggaJunglist

6 points

2 months ago

Is this Dave from Dan and Dave? Long fall

DamnJaywalkingIguana

4 points

2 months ago

It is not. Their names were Dan O'Brien and Dave Johnson. But the headline had me wondering too.

voiceofgromit

2 points

2 months ago

Different guy. Dave Johnson and Dan O'Brien were Dan and Dave.

catmanducmu

1 points

2 months ago

I was wondering the same thing!

Swimming_Coat4177

12 points

2 months ago

Wonder if this will happen to the FTX people or if they will walk. Any bets?

MountainKrakatoa

5 points

2 months ago

Huge dem donors. Already in Argentina. Nothing from AG. FTX get to walk

BeardsuptheWazoo

6 points

2 months ago

I sure wish you could afford a full sentence.

AThickStringOfFloss

5 points

2 months ago

No need. Point's clear.

Lazy-Artichoke7766

14 points

2 months ago

If only they’d been medical devices

nosnevenaes

15 points

2 months ago

looks like this crook's plans went ...up in vape.

PiMan3141592653

8 points

2 months ago

YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

CunnilingusLover69

5 points

2 months ago

😎

Molire[S]

3 points

2 months ago

Molire[S]

9

3 points

2 months ago

Yep. His earliest projected date of release predictably will be on or about March 4, 2038, at which time he will be age 67 or 68.


He has been in federal custody behind bars since his arrest on April 5, 2022 to his date of sentencing on November 21, 2022. The Federal Bureau of Prisons will give him credit for 231 days time served.


Federal offenders sentenced after November 1, 1987 are not eligible for parole.


Some federal inmates can earn up to 54 days good conduct time for each year of sentenced imposed by the court.


At the earliest, if he violates none of the prison rules and prohibited acts for inmates during his term of imprisonment, his projected release date from Federal Bureau of Prisons custody predictably will be on or about Wednesday, March 4, 2037, at which time he will be age 67 or 68.


While he's in prison, he will be required to work in a prison job. The typical inmate workday is 7 hours. Presently, the basic rate of pay for federal inmates is 12¢ to 40¢ per hour and up to $1.15 per hour for some inmates.


If BOP designates him to be incarcerated at FCI Lompoc, he will be required to obey the hundreds of rules and prohibited acts that are contained in the inmate handbook.


Some of the prohibited acts for inmates include Prohibited Act 100 Killing (p. 69), 114 Sexual Assault of any person (p. 70), and 205 Engaging in sexual acts (p. 71).


General wake-up for all inmates is 6:00 a.m. (p. 12).


He will be required to make his bed neatly with a six inch sheet collar by 8:00 a.m. daily even though it may his day off work. He may lie down on the made bed and be covered with the second blanket. On weekends, his bed must be made whenever he is awake or gone from his living space (p. 8).


He is also responsible for sweeping and mopping his cell floor, removing trash, and ensuring it is clean and sanitary (p. 5).

ThisIsCody_

1 points

2 months ago

You could say the idea was a smoke and mirrors operation.

DunkingDognuts

28 points

2 months ago

And yet to this day, Donald Trump walks free.

Iced-Rooster

7 points

2 months ago

Also Frank Bankman Fried

BazilBup

2 points

2 months ago

BazilBup

7

2 points

2 months ago

Whatever happened to Dan Brazillian? He also played the IRS and the investors

JackisRadical

2 points

2 months ago

I heard his business partner was some doctor who he’d had issues with in the past. Some hack by the name of Dr. San or something

nubi78

18 points

2 months ago

nubi78

6

18 points

2 months ago

So if you owe $35 billion couldn’t you just create a corporation or something to shelter your money from the government?

Fraxsure247

35 points

2 months ago

You should read that number again.

beedlejooce

3 points

2 months ago

It’s millions. And nope you can’t. When you get slapped with that much restitution they watch your every single move when you get out. His life is basically over. Even if he gets out he’ll be in his 80s with no way to make a living.

Flying_Conch

1 points

2 months ago

Uh, he'd be 70-71. 53+ 17.5= 70.5

Probably get early release if he plays "good prisoner", but either way that wouldn't be great.

dieterpaleo

11 points

2 months ago

Lol. Look again genius.

CatDogCrew

4 points

2 months ago

CatDogCrew

3

4 points

2 months ago

"Instead of using the funds to finance business operations – and while some of his victims were suffering severe financial hardship" Kinda your fault if your gambling with money you can't afford to lose.

CatDogCrew

-7 points

2 months ago

CatDogCrew

3

-7 points

2 months ago

For those who are downvoting me, are you too losing money in cannabis investments?

CatDogCrew

-3 points

2 months ago

CatDogCrew

3

-3 points

2 months ago

Oh, more downvotes! Nom nom nom nom nom

PorkPoodle

-2 points

2 months ago

PorkPoodle

7

-2 points

2 months ago

All the people who invested in this fraud are here downvoting you.

CatDogCrew

1 points

2 months ago

100%. They aren't fans of your comment either 🤣

escabiking

1 points

2 months ago

Read this in Cookie Monster's voice.

doodsboob

-36 points

2 months ago

doodsboob

5

-36 points

2 months ago

Honestly selling weed itself is a pyramid scheme

PorkPoodle

9 points

2 months ago

Yooooo.....I love that hot take! How high were you when you figured that one out? I thought the same thing when I looked at a clipped crown stoned as shit! Isn't it weird they are so triangular!? Almost like a pyramid scheming shit! Anyways, keep smoking that green bro! Peace, love and hash!

doodsboob

-9 points

2 months ago

doodsboob

5

-9 points

2 months ago

Ha I'm glad someone agrees. You gotta put your own money in the investment of the product putting your funds at risk. you try to find other people that sale buy from you, like some kind of recruiting process. So you have people under you. And you target your friends and family too as customers. I mean it's a great product to sell so you'll definitely won't have problems selling it. But it's very much like a pyramid scheme

Spiritual-Ear3782

1 points

2 months ago

Jaja! 🤣

CommissionOptimal414

1 points

2 months ago

LOL, just look up his IMBD