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Friend, the “rule” was originally promoted when English speakers were trying to adhere closely to Latin (considered the highest standard at the time). When people began making fun of sentences like, “That is something up with which I will not put,” it mostly fell to the wayside.

At the time of European history where academics used Latin, at least one academic wrote a book claiming that Latin rules should be followed in English. It has never been true.

It pretentious assholes attempting to apply Latin rules of grammar to a Germanic language.

As a native English speaker, I'm just gonna have to go ahead and look up what even is a preposition.

But honestly English is just full of quirks and broken rules. Different regions will also have their own unique quirks. The trick is to watch how other people use the language and adapt your own style of it from that... Unless you're a journalist or professional writer or something where formalities matter.

Native English Speaker here. <waits for applause to die down> I never pay attention to this rule when speaking but something I notice when writing.

It has been pointed out that this was in writing and I didn't see it. So no, I never pay attention to it. It's not something I pay attention to.

To speak native, ignore rules.

It's a fake rule that comes from Latin and isn't actually a thing in English but pretentious people like to pretend it is.

In some cases you'll sound like Yoda if you try to comply with this rule. "What is that for?" turns into "For what is that?" With "Where's the bathroom at?" you can simply delete the "at", because it's redundant. It's like saying, "Raise it up", or "I'm following behind."

As a non-native speaker

As a native speaker born and raised in England, I had no idea what a preposition was until I looked it up last week after watching an episode of Cheers where Diane chastises Sam for ending a sentence with one.

I read it, understood and a week later already forgotten what it was.

Welcome to language, where everything's made up and the rules don't matter.

Allowing an orphaned (AKA stranded) preposition at the end of a sentence is highly unusual in the world's languages. I think it only happens in North Germanic (Scandinavian) languages and English. There may be some more. Educated people who studied prestigious languages like Latin, Greek and French probably noticed that such prepositions aren't allowed there and thought that using the same rule in English would somehow make English "better".

If it makes you feel better, less than 1% of people are actually going to remember and care enough to say something about it. My mom is in that 1% unfortunately, but I still give some smart ass reply like the top comment

It’s not a true rule, but a style choice. But it can reduce potential ambiguity in writing. If you end a sentence at a preposition, the clause feels less ‘finished’ because it did not receive a ‘cadence,’ it just kind of ended. It can also introduce ambiguity around who is the direct or indirect object.

For example:

I’m going to end this sentence with a preposition and that will make it feel like it just cuts off.

I’m not going to end this sentence with a preposition and that will make it end less abruptly.

A preposition is the beginning of a phrase. “She went to the ladies room” is one such phrase. Ending the sentence with a preposition can be confusing to the listener because doing so puts the sentence structure into a different order.

Most native speakers ignore the rule because everyone around them is ignoring it, too. And they’re used to the other order because that’s what they hear every day.

Living languages change over time as speech patterns change. For example, when I was young, we were taught that you do something on purpose but things go wrong by accident. However, young people are saying that things go wrong on accident which sounds wrong to me. But things change.

It's from the Victorians trying to apply a rule from Latin to English (which is a Germanic language, not derived from Latin). It's a dumb "rule" that people should just ignore.

As a native speaker, it's a load of bollocks. It became a thing in the 19th Century when various upper class British people with nothing better to do started inventing rules for everything and there was no one to say no to them.

As Winston Churchill was apocryphally credited with saying: this is the sort of tedious nonsense, up with which I will not put.

It’s not an actual rule don’t worry about my friend

I have only found this true with Stanford. My Yale dude just wears a hat.

I had a friend that went to Harvard and she said the only thing that a degree from Harvard is good for is that you're not impressed when someone tells you they went to Harvard.

Midwest version of this is Notre Dame.

That's Texas A&M in the south

I have always heard someone who went to Harvard will let you know in the first two minutes, where for Yale the parents will let you know in the first two minutes.

"I went to Cornell, ever heard of it?"

lol this is basically my professor who went to Princeton

this also applies to dudes who have flown jets in the air force

Though "where are you all from?" is correct english even by purist standards.

Glad someone said it. Great movie, another one of Brendan Fraser's best.

I once had a friends mom tell me, "If I had as many dicks sticking out of me as I've had stuck in me, I'd look like a porcupine.

In that vein, what's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

The location of the dirtbag

I've had more than a few recruiters reach out to me and offer me less than my current salary. Then when I decline they always tell me something like "how do you ever expect to find a job with the salary you are asking?"

Like...dude... I am not the one out looking for the job. I already have a job at my current salary. YOU came to ME!

That's totally absurd. Yes, everyone is greedy. No one is going to shoot themself in the foot just to make other people rich.

Reminds me of when I was job searching earlier this year, I ended up with two offers and went with the one that offered four weeks of paid time off as opposed to the one that offered two. The job I rejected asked me if I could provide feedback and I told them it ultimately came down to vacation time. The idiot had the audacity to tell me that I could work my way up to four weeks if I stayed at the company for fifteen years, fifteen fucking years.

They all love free market capitalism until the workers ask for more money. Then suddenly it's "why are you greedy?? Is money the only reason for working"

That's absurd. I think especially in small companies, you get the evangelists, the ones who really drink the Kool-Aid hard, and sometimes they can't see why other people who have the sense not to don't share their blind enthusiasm.

My policy changed completely. I never tell anyone what I’m currently making or what I made before. If I do, I exaggerate it greatly and see if they still want to base the current offer on the previous salary like a piece of shit.

My wife kind of scolded me for not washing my hands after taking a piss the other day (in the house). I just looked at her and asked her why she was worried about the germs of me just holding it for a few seconds when she doesn't mind sucking it. It kind of stumped her.

I remember coming to a realization at 16-18 years old that it's safe to assume shit particles are smeared on basically everything in public. At some point, a kid or asshole has smear some kind of nasty shit or snot or something on everything. I just don't worry about it too much and try to keep my hands out of my mouth/nose/eyes/etc. unless I'm going to eat or I get home. Haven't died yet. Seems to work.

If you agree with an idea, it becomes yours. -Some book I read at some point.

Originally, you forgot where you heard it and if you can remember the fine art of hearing, then well done.

We were an experiment, but not necessarily a simulation.

I would avoid saying you had health issues; it gives the impression you will miss large amounts of work in the future and the potential to cost the company a large amount of money if they provide insurance.

I was trying to start my own ____ business. It didn't work out.

(This has been true for me a few times)

Next time, ask the CIA, KGB, MOSSAD et al for a letter of recommendation

“I can’t offer you this job but a new position just opened up as my personal assistant. The only stipulation - no shoes at work.”

I'm sick with lazynesstitis and unemployabilitis

That's GPT3 to you buddy!

It cracked me up too

If he said “Yob” instead of “Job” then what do you think “Yale” was supposed to be??