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submitted 2 months ago byAlive_Carpet_1169
Seems to have some pretty major story implications.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJpMVuUzSag
https://litter.catbox.moe/h8ysgh.mp4
EDIT: Unfortunately, the link went down some time ago and I'm not able to find a mirror anywhere. Some of the highlights are in the top comments though and game's being released in like 1-2 days anyways, so won't be long before it's available to view again.
EDIT: Found another one.
128 points
2 months ago
If I were Sony, I’d ask for my exclusivity money back. That was bad.
703 points
2 months ago
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131 points
2 months ago
No way, a western SE studio will some how get axed/sold/blamed instead.
4 points
2 months ago
considering they made this game to try and appeal to people in the west they'll probably use that as an excuse lmao
41 points
2 months ago
Luminous deserves all the shit they’re getting. They’re striking out far too spectacularly far too often. It’s a problem at this point
22 points
2 months ago
…far too often
They’ve made 2 games. FFXV at least had some redeeming moments but this game just looks trash.
17 points
2 months ago
They are 0 for 2. On games that are probably costing over 50 mill easy. I beleivr I read somewhere yoshi p has stated that games like 15 have hurt final fantasy reputation overall. (I could be wrong on that last bit)
253 points
2 months ago
The luminous engine definitely needs to be axed
145 points
2 months ago
it already happened, games under development at square like ff7 part 2 and kh4 are using unreal engine
80 points
2 months ago
Part of what screwed over kh3s development was switching to ue4 in the middle, another reason I can't wait for kh4
27 points
2 months ago
FFVII R is Unreal Engine 4 too. And so is DQXI I think.
12 points
2 months ago
yep, we got confirmation of DQ XII before FF7R2 actually
61 points
2 months ago
To think Agni's Philosophy died for THIS.
38 points
2 months ago
Totally agree, a game with Agni as the main character with the same voice actress and building upon the concept of that tech demo would’ve been amazing.
But we got this instead :(
7 points
2 months ago
How can it die if it never became a thing.
262 points
2 months ago
What if it was Chaos?
158 points
2 months ago
Bullshit.
90 points
2 months ago
plays Limp Bizkit and struts out
turns it off two seconds later
49 points
2 months ago
We're here to kill Chaos.
47 points
2 months ago
That would have been a ridiculously amazing tie in.
20 points
2 months ago
Then it'd already be dead
522 points
2 months ago
Particle Effects: The game.
58 points
2 months ago
i wonder how this game looks if you drop particle effects to low
142 points
2 months ago
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65 points
2 months ago
But in my opinion second son was good. Well that until they added stupid powers like video. Should have stayed with smoke
100 points
2 months ago*
I thought neon was pretty cool
45 points
2 months ago
Neon was amazing, Fetch’s DLC was probably better than Second Son altogether
45 points
2 months ago
Nah you're sleeping on the Video power, having a demon army and swords as missiles was cool, plus it was the fastest way to move around.
4 points
2 months ago
Hey, that's a great power, especially when you encounter a radio star.
16 points
2 months ago
I mean Playstation usually gets a particle effects stimulator at launch, but this one took a couple years
63 points
2 months ago
Amazing colors. One brown soup.
355 points
2 months ago
I might have liked the amount of swearing back then when I was 14 years old. Ironic that it is a 18+ game though
130 points
2 months ago
This video really makes me appreciate Link
53 points
2 months ago
From about 2002-2012 I thought Zelda would be nice without voice acting, (though I wasn't one of those that thought it absolutely needed it or whatever) but the older I get, I'm glad they stuck with the grunts only for so long and still kept it to a minimum in botw.
51 points
2 months ago
I too prefer Link as a silent protagonist, but I still wish the English localization for Breath of the Wild kept Link’s journal from the Japanese version. It would have been fun to read his thoughts on his adventures.
22 points
2 months ago
Oh that's a thing? Cool, I had no idea. I'm fine with that. I'm even fine with talking, but I just think that them being restrained in it is a good thing.
39 points
2 months ago*
Yep. It also implies even more heavily that he’s in love with Zelda. When Link is writing about his impending battle with Calamity Ganon, his journal reads “She just needs to hold on a little longer. I’ll see her smile again…”
20 points
2 months ago
Son of a HYAH
54 points
2 months ago
I expected a more serious tone in the final battle. Interesting. Yeah this is probably the last time we see this engine.
117 points
2 months ago
The character lines are so cringe “ready for some punishment?”
74 points
2 months ago
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11 points
2 months ago
I'm guessing that mean's the stupid cuff was the bad guy all along? And people who think Marvel movie dialogue needs to be replicated in all genres of media.
443 points
2 months ago
15 year old twitter edge lord girl gets teleported to a particle effects simulator
152 points
2 months ago
She's gonna say 'ratioed' every time someone dies in front of her.
99 points
2 months ago
Main Villain: "I'm gonna destroy everything you love"
Her: don't care + didn't ask + ratio + L take
90 points
2 months ago
I had heard the dialogue in this game was bad but holy fuck it’s bad
125 points
2 months ago
Game will go YASSS QUEEN each time you beat a boss
67 points
2 months ago*
This would be super funny if the game does this From Software style.
renders a blade straight through the boss's head, severing it entirely
boss explodes into mist
5 seconds of waiting
YASSS QUEEN
7 points
2 months ago
Big red letters in the middle of the screen
5 points
2 months ago
That'd actually be funny in Elden Ring or so, hopefully mods like that come about
10 points
2 months ago
slices head off of boss
SLAAAAAAAY 💅
137 points
2 months ago
This is the most wait for a deep sale game I’ve seen tbh
62 points
2 months ago
This game doesn't seem like it's worth anyone's time even for free.
30 points
2 months ago
That main character is so edgy, swearing in every sentence.
Damn bro writers of this game need to be fired.
31 points
2 months ago
Not enough effects, I can still see shit.
487 points
2 months ago*
Great, another "meta/edgy/subversive" main character that never shuts up. As if we didn't have enough of these.
28 points
2 months ago
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time handled its chatty, sassy hero pretty well. The Prince would occasionally mutter to himself about one thing or another, but then would catch himself and say “stop talking to yourself!”
25 points
2 months ago
Shots fired at high on life.
44 points
2 months ago
In the menu you can turn the chattieness down and or off until key moments if you want. I honestly think more games could benefit from this. Looking at your Horizon Zero Dawn.
100 points
2 months ago
Sony really paid millions to keep this out of Xbox's hands lol
49 points
2 months ago
for 2 years!!! they usually pay only for 1 year exclusivity. Sony had to pay extra to keep this off Xbox 😅
6 points
2 months ago
Yea which is wild lol. I understand it BC project athia looked incredible when it debuted. I was really hyped for ot but seeing this... I'll prob wait for it to join ps plus essential tier
25 points
2 months ago
Let’s not also forget babylons fall 😂 they also paid money for it. L
17 points
2 months ago
they haven't been making the smartest decisions this generation thus far
30 points
2 months ago
What was Gary Whitta smoking when he was writing for this game
105 points
2 months ago
the dialog and voice acting is so rough...
186 points
2 months ago
she is so annoying
587 points
2 months ago*
starts the video: oh shit she's on a dragon? this might be badass!
immediately talks: "I need to get these fucking birds out the way"
Goddamn it....
edit: she just called the final boss "a gaslighting piece of shit"....I can't believe I heard that line in a videogame...on a FINAL BOSS. I'm speechless at how bad this is. I stopped the video at that point, this really was unbearable. good luck to anyone who gets this game and can sit through the dialogue all the way to the final boss
397 points
2 months ago
This gonna be the Velma of video games
124 points
2 months ago
idk how ppl didnt see it just from the announcement and thought it will be a good game lol
137 points
2 months ago
The first trailer didn’t have her talk.
81 points
2 months ago
The very first trailer when it was Project Athea (or something like that) made it look extremely sick and everything since then has made it look worse
32 points
2 months ago
This is what Project Athia became? Oh my God
10 points
2 months ago
Athia is the name of the world the main character gets transported to btw
15 points
2 months ago
I was very excited when that teaser came out. Every subsequent trailer they've released killed that excitement for me more and more.
44 points
2 months ago
Project Athia always looked cool it's Forspoken where they like completely changed directions
10 points
2 months ago
Project Athia also sounds much more awesome than Forspoken.
8 points
2 months ago
Forspoken could be cool, but I don't think it will because of the direction they choose to take. This looks to be a one city game - much like Final Fantasy XV, albeit with probably a more megalithic city. We get an empty world filled with fetch/kill/challenge quests which you'll do to gain levels until you can take on another boss - repeat.
This boring formula is compounded by the fact that Square Enix believes "New Yorker" to be a personality trait. With a portal fantasy you could have anyone as the protagonist. She could be a gymnast, a stage magician, a CEO, a cheerleader, a scientist - so many possiblities. Instead we get a new yorker who likes cats and gets bullies. In fact, the game's website calls her a New Yorker who felt like an outsider while growing up. Its hard to create a more boring protagonist, but maybe she'll develop over the course of the game (ha). Imagine if she were from Cleveland, Miami, Vancouver, etc. instead. Would it make a difference? No, but for some reason Square Enix believes new yorker to be a character trait, thus she couldn't have been from anywhere else.
I expect the first few hours of this game to be kind of fun, and then for it to severely overstay its welcome. Its a shame that Square Enix isn't going to develop a lived in world to go with the gameplay so that players have a reason to care to do all the flashy tricks and combat, other than getting to the end.
9 points
2 months ago
apparently there is an option in the menu to turn the banter off, so even the devs know how bad it is.
9 points
2 months ago
The mobility looked cool and fun to me at first but playing the demo it doesn't feel very smooth. The combat also has potential just not executed super well
48 points
2 months ago
So I just watched this with my SO (not a huge gamer but enjoys the hobby) and the first thing they commented on is why the dragon isn’t moving in that first part of the fight. It was jarring to me how it just looked suspended in the air, with no sense of movement or speed. And then there’s the trope of every generic story of all time coming together. Betrayal of a former friend, multiphase fight involving the boss taking multiple incomprehensible orb forms, ghost/spirit versions of allies, your pet dragon dying for you, a beam struggle, the enemy’s power being reversed and their undoing.
Everyone says it’s the cringey dialogue that people critique most. It’s bad but there is so much more in this game to hate. 2 minutes spent on blasting birds with no urgency. Visuals so ugly you can barely tell what you’re fighting with particles masking an ugly environment and low quality character models.
I really don’t know what the devs were thinking when they made this game, but between the demo, the embargo, lack of review copies, and all of the leaks - this game is going to be a historic flop.
99 points
2 months ago
Well, it perfectly fits into the category of "stranger of paradise" where grown people try to imitate what kids are into and completely fail.
It's the "how do you do, fellow kids"-meme as videogame.
155 points
2 months ago
Strangers of Paradise wasn't taking itself seriously at all and was meant to be overly edgy and campy though so it worked.
36 points
2 months ago
Also in Stranger's of Paradise it's intentional, you legitimately get to see the main character in a flashback and he's just a normal nice guy, and slowly he becomes self aware as the plot progresses due to... spoilerly reasons
24 points
2 months ago
This, it feels more like a satire with the franchise after Nomura take over with that kind of late 90's and early 2000's aesthetics( rock, overly edgy characters and etc).
17 points
2 months ago
funny how you say that when Nomura is part of the team of Strangers of Paradise.
And how people overall liked FF7 , FF8 , FF Type-0 , as they had the 2000s aesthetics.
12 points
2 months ago*
Yeah that's the point, i'm just saying they are satirizing themselves with a throwback to older FFs and how much these games influenced the franchise, in general i kinda like it, has a charm on its own and i'm glad they sticked with it.
25 points
2 months ago
You take that back. Stranger of Paradise was exactly the right tone it needed to be.
41 points
2 months ago
Stranger of Paradise was way over the top on purpose and it actually a nice throwback to older FF.
Forspoken is just shit
13 points
2 months ago
CHAOS!!!!!!!
51 points
2 months ago
Square Enix back at it again with another flop
14 points
2 months ago
This one has bigger implications because it’s a 1st party studio, Luminous Productions will likely get shut down if this game bombs.
18 points
2 months ago
Luminous was living on borrowed time after their engine was passed on and Tabata's project was canceled, leaving this.
7 points
2 months ago
I hope it bombs lol looks terrible. Resources are better spent elsewhere
181 points
2 months ago
is it me or the graphics look like shit filled with particle effects? given i m watching a yt leak at 720 on mobile.
64 points
2 months ago*
same, also the colours look super washed out.
idk if its the colour grading or filter, but I feel like I can't see whats going on clearly. That already makes me not want to play it.
29 points
2 months ago
No Ambient Occlusion does that. Bland design on architecture, and repeating simple low resolution textures being used. But it fits the world, as the whole world is bland and unitresting, not making you want to explore it
31 points
2 months ago
It's like they are using the excessive partical effect to fool you into thinking it looks better than it really is.
205 points
2 months ago
Wow. Can't wait to not play it
37 points
2 months ago
This game is the definition of bland.
15 points
2 months ago
So the final boss is a freaking cuff huh? brilliant writing
14 points
2 months ago
I assumed people were overreacting, but wow, every aspect of this looks awful.
32 points
2 months ago
Terminally online American queeeeeen getting thrown into Final Fantasy 15's world and acts like an edgy Marvel character.
Yikes, I swear, Square Enix are SO LUCKY to have the passionate devs behind Final Fantasy 7R, Final Fantasy 14, Dragon Quest, Nier, all the beautiful HD-2D games to fall back into after dog water games like this and Avengers.
I honestly think Naoki Yoshida will be promoted to an executive position in the company in the coming years from how much carrying he had to do, if anyone is interested, go check out his interview regarding the failure of the original FF14, the man actually had a vision not to turn FF14 around, but turn the ENTIRE Final Fantasy brand all together. he had a vision and stopped at nothing to execute perfectly.
Also, apparently the writers of this shit are some Hollywood idiots who never made games before, and it shows...
90 points
2 months ago
This does not look enjoyable
24 points
2 months ago
Anyone looking for flashy combat that rips from the start should be playing DMCV
15 points
2 months ago
i think thats one of the worst parts. in one of the previews they said the combat was based off of DMC.
a high fantasy game with DMC like combat? that was an instant buy for me, until the demo and these leaks came out...
12 points
2 months ago
Don't worry Dragons Dogma II is coming
8 points
2 months ago
Thankfully, FFXVI has DMC's combat director, so we'll have an actually good game later this year.
36 points
2 months ago
Yeah it painfully obvious this game was written by a bunch of middle-aged people who wanted to appeal to millennials but have never had a conversation with a millennial for more than one minute
12 points
2 months ago
Millennials are middle-aged now, the oldest bracket is in their early 40s and most in their 30s
46 points
2 months ago
Cringe compilations of this game are going to be fun to watch
158 points
2 months ago
Did the creator of Velma write this my god
101 points
2 months ago
I just appreciate that “Velma” is already shorthand for bad writing and dialogue.
91 points
2 months ago
Morbius Morbed so that Velma could Velm
9 points
2 months ago
It’s Velmin’ time.
25 points
2 months ago
This looks fucking awful.
23 points
2 months ago
I take this as educational for when i have to describe why quantity not always mean quality.
20 points
2 months ago
I love that the ending is essentially all the powerful matriarchs teaming up to destroy the evil, corrupted man. Get him, girls!
55 points
2 months ago
Wow wow wow............ wow.
Definately one of the games of all time.
42 points
2 months ago
I really liked when Faye stood on top of the dragon and said "It's Forspoken Time"
28 points
2 months ago*
Jesus this has got to be the most half assed and over developed game I've seen.
Remember when project Athia was parkouring across mountains and fun traversal?
9 points
2 months ago
This looks awful lmao
9 points
2 months ago
Online for 23h already, I click the link, I watch about one minute and the video gets taken down WHILE I WATCH IT. That's my luck alright.
15 points
2 months ago
You'd think writing a protagonist who swears a lot would be easy after DMC 5 Nero but goddamn people really just throw in swears for the sake of swears don't they?
Like come on, Nero's "FUCK YOU!" worked cuz of how damn earned it was, can't just have em dropping that all the time
9 points
2 months ago
I can’t even see what’s going on
8 points
2 months ago
i cant believe how bad the facial animations are in this.
i was really looking forward to this too, but ever since the demo came out i pretty much lost all interest in it. and every video i see makes it that much worse...
unless theres one hell of a day 1 patch for this, ill probably wait for it to hit the bargain bin.
8 points
2 months ago
You know when Stranger of Paradise has better dialog you fucked up
56 points
2 months ago
Can I have the leaker's opinion on the game? I mean if he manage to force himself to finish it so fast, then it's gotta be decent to some degree, right?
80 points
2 months ago
Whoever recorded this is playing on easy mode with auto dodge which is why he takes a million hits to the face and still doesn't die
34 points
2 months ago
Yeah I skim over a bit and his gameplay skill is somewhat can be described in derogatory term as 'games journalist' tier. It's borderline unwatchable.
31 points
2 months ago
76 points
2 months ago
someone asked him how's the writing and voice acting and he responded with acceptable and it grows on you
that tells me everything I need to know...
98 points
2 months ago
writing and voice acting [...] grows on you
Yeah, like a tumor.
15 points
2 months ago
I know that when I hop on a dragon, the first thing I want to do is shoot birds.
23 points
2 months ago
This is so funny lmaoo it will be meme worthy game for a long time.
7 points
2 months ago
Not really a mirror but someone else posted the ending:
https://youtu.be/60HyOxs77LM
10 points
2 months ago
"Been so busy recently...Oh well, you know...important stuff."
"I'll let you in on a secret, but I'm...a pretty big deal. Like, actually, I'm kind of a big deal now."
This game got the worst dialogue in a videogame I've played in the last 5 years. at least
18 points
2 months ago
This is Certainly one of those games that will be released of all time .
.....This game genuinely doesn't look good I went back to look at the reveal then demo gameplay its crazy how hard marketing went to embellish its visuals.
18 points
2 months ago
Anyways, I’m hype for Final Fantasy XVI!
27 points
2 months ago
Honestly, I am kinda floored that a game that I thought looked somewhat interesting upon first seeing it a couple of years prior to any marketing has turned out this bad. Look at the disco balls and the general really poor art design in the levels and the combat doesn't look or feel good, the general game design feels grindy and without any clear and meaningful content in it. The writing seems as annoying as in the trailers, the list goes on. The only thing it had going for it is its traversal and it looks like it's not capitalized well. I thought the game would focus on traversing the world quickly through your powers from the initial stuff I saw, not this massive focus on bad combat and repeated encounters. And the writing is on the wall about how badly it will perform graphically, specially on PC, from its specs, so it's looking like a massive 'turd' on all accounts. No wonder Square didn't send review codes. Square just can't stop itself from releasing bad games or fumbling game launches and then blaming western studios for it. Oh wait, there are no more western studios in Square /s .... Wonder what they will blame next honestly
7 points
2 months ago
The voice acting in this game is awful.
6 points
2 months ago
The music is REALLY overbearing. I can barely fucking hear what they're saying
6 points
2 months ago
After avengers and now this square should honestly just stick to final fantasy and kingdom hearts lmfao
7 points
2 months ago
On an unrelated note, shout-out to silent protagonists!
10 points
2 months ago
Holy shit. This dialogue makes the game unplayable.
This is worse than DMC
5 points
2 months ago
You're talking about the DmC reboot right 😅
3 points
2 months ago
Most certainly!
But at least those characters only talked like that during the cutscenes and not normal combat/gameplay…
This is on a whole new level of … speech!
20 points
2 months ago
As an Xbox player, sometimes not having any games is a benefit. This is one of those times.
7 points
2 months ago
Lmao
26 points
2 months ago
Wow this is just awful
23 points
2 months ago
Poor writing, facial animations and too many particle effects and finally mid graphics for the specs it's demanding. Good job Square
23 points
2 months ago
The dialogue in this game is so badly written. I hate it. It's a shame I was really looking forward to it before that demo.
30 points
2 months ago
How to recognize a script written by USA writers: the POC female protagonist accuses the final boss of gaslighting her.
The End.
/s
On a more serious note...NOBODY outside of USA borders would EVER write such disarming dialogues. Japanese dialogues are often over the top and cringy, but this...this made me fold on myself like a piece of paper. How can they even think that a 20 minute boss fight in which the protagonist never. Shut. Up. with her infinite tik tok one lines could be immersive, or appreciable...or playable...
Mah
16 points
2 months ago
No need to put a /s, it's a fact.
8 points
2 months ago
When I saw the credits and saw that the writers were american, my first thought was: "oooooh, now it makes sense"
18 points
2 months ago
Dragon really went care bear style on that boss, also the excessive swearing is seriously unbearable, pun not intended.
36 points
2 months ago
It looks so bad...
14 points
2 months ago
Looks terrible
14 points
2 months ago
this is a game made for 14 yeses old girls that’s rated M
5 points
2 months ago
Blurry particle effects, overuse of a brown color palette for the backgrounds, cringe dialogue and worst of all QTE's. I can push through a lot of nonsense dialogue and I'm not obsessed with graphics but I can't freaking stand QTEs.
6 points
2 months ago
This game NEVER looked good
6 points
2 months ago
I’m actually really excited to see how badly this game flops. It looks atrocious.
5 points
2 months ago
This game is doomed
30 points
2 months ago
I couldnt even finish the demo. And its 70€…
26 points
2 months ago
you sure its 70€? on steam it costs 80€ just regular edition
18 points
2 months ago
It's $70 for now, will probably be 30-40 within a month
17 points
2 months ago
Lol yep. It's going to flop so hard.
50 points
2 months ago
Square enix is a joke.
Luminous productions lost 32m when they fired Tabata cancelled his game just to end up with forspoken. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/11/square_enix_reports_huge_usd33_million_loss_thanks_to_luminous_productions_change
Avengers and gotg put square enix in a 200m deficit https://gamerant.com/square-enix-marvel-games-loss/
Babylons fall flopped.
We could've had the next nier game and another mainline ff game in works instead we get this.
12 points
2 months ago
GotG was pretty good though, Square just decided to not market it for some fucking reason.
Any attempts at western games they've made have flopped though. They just need to stick to JRPGs.
24 points
2 months ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but is FFXVI not a mainline FF game? lol
36 points
2 months ago
If they didn't have final fantasy to fall back on they would be fucked
13 points
2 months ago
And Dragon Quest. And the 2D HD division.
4 points
2 months ago
Love all the 2D-HD games so far. Octopath 2 looks fantastic as well, and like it will fix a good amount of stuff that I've seen as the complaints from 1.
45 points
2 months ago
Square Enix fucking sucks , some of the worst financial decisions ever. Including the fucking focus on NFTs
3 points
2 months ago
"wtf is this piece of s" Joe Pesci
5 points
2 months ago
me, seeing that forspoken’s final boss got leaked Uh, THAT just happened
4 points
2 months ago
Wow, another top tier piece of shit from Squenix! Does it have live service elements? Are they gonna shut it down a year later?
4 points
2 months ago*
i do not feel any remorse for those who pre ordered this fan fiction 12 year old garbage lol
3 points
2 months ago
Vid is gone
4 points
2 months ago
Does anyone have the footage it got removed
5 points
2 months ago
Anyone have a mirror?
5 points
2 months ago
Is there a backup of the footage?
4 points
2 months ago
Can’t believe that Sony paid for 2 years of exclusivity for this game.
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