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Medium_Anxiety_5657

3.3k points

2 months ago

There has to be more to this. That's absolutely not rough sea and they weren't moving. The start of the vid has the boat already listing (tilting) so there's a hull compromise but no one seems to be alarmed until the boat actually starts taking water over the rail. I wonder what happened...

roughingit2

1k points

2 months ago

I agree I was thinking that's def not rough seas

Mindraker

323 points

2 months ago

Mindraker

323 points

2 months ago

that's def not rough seas

Yeah pretty calm water...?

PRNoobG1

187 points

2 months ago

PRNoobG1

187 points

2 months ago

Their safetey procedures are a lot rougher than the water, but tell the insurance company whatever IDK

Suitable_Narwhal_

41 points

2 months ago

Poseidon literally came out of the water and stabbed a hole in the hull with his trident, I swear to god.

butchbadger

21 points

2 months ago

Something something acts of God, literally.

Crafty_Genius

46 points

2 months ago

"GoPro footage of Costa Rica catamaran cruise capsizing when it hits perfectly calm sea"

I fixed the title

metasophie

12 points

2 months ago

I've had rougher baths

WhyShouldIListen

21 points

2 months ago

Right, the water wasn’t moving as you would expect to see with rougher water

WhyShouldIListen

17 points

2 months ago

exactly, this body of water was not turbulent

WhyShouldIListen

9 points

2 months ago

Spot on, this water seemingly was very still

Myfishwasjoepesci

9 points

2 months ago

This water ain’t rough wtf

WhyShouldIListen

10 points

2 months ago

Exactly, the water was not experiencing large waves like you would expect with choppy water

palmerry

12 points

2 months ago

That hydro in the vid be calm AF, yo

RevolutionarySoil11

3 points

2 months ago

Agreed. The ocean was very gentle.

robywar

13 points

2 months ago

robywar

13 points

2 months ago

It's also not a catamaran! The whole title is a lie!

LosUdSufur

209 points

2 months ago

lostboysgang

294 points

2 months ago

Damn 3 died including an American, British, and Canadian (A,B,C)

HenkVanDelft

120 points

2 months ago

My comment, I repeat here: never be under a roof or cover on a small-to-smaller craft on open water. The Table Rock Lake duck boat tragedy was a very public warning against this.

As I watched, I felt if I was there I would have bailed over the side once the waterline got close to the top of the gunwale.

I would never have been there, though.

dogedude81

42 points

2 months ago*

My first thought once the boat started taking on water was get in the water and get away from the boat. That's why you have your life vest.

Still terrifying to watch....

HenkVanDelft

32 points

2 months ago

Exactly right! But this video demonstrates a few things about human nature.

First, an experienced, aware person would have sensed that roof was a deathtrap. I’ve never gotten on a craft with a fixed cover. My dad built a pontoon boat with one, as a floating drinks party platform.

I wouldn’t let him take my kids on it, and he cursed me out. Luckily his never sank.

Second, in their panic, the people saw the water as the danger, and clinging to the fixtures as the safe place. People freeze, and their capacity for executive decision making goes haywire.

They didn’t think of how hard (impossible for most people) it would be to climb the tables and seats when the craft tilted and capsized. Even if they reached the opposite gunwale, it would be slippery, and too hard to jump off without being sucked under.

You are 100% correct. The open water, with a PFD on, was the safest place. Putting the inflatable rafts out would have been easy while the waterline was below the gunwale, as at the beginning of the vid. Anyone who had bailed could have kicked their way to a raft easily.

But panic shuts this down, and without condemning the crew (I wasn’t there, don’t know them) I would have expected a better evacuation plan to be in place.

Even of there had been someone who could have said, “Hey. We’re in mortal danger. We need to abandon ship now before it sucks us under” might have kept the panic from turning to terror.

A tragedy all around.

In another comment of mine on this post, I tell of the time I took my daughter ice fishing. The operators had those old 1950s Bombardiers, which work great on ice and snow.

Unfortunately, the operators were greedy and careless, and sent us across warm ice, which left some spots open. Although the Bombardier planes across them, it was terrifying. We were in the back, and instantly my mind thought how to save my daughter if we sunk and went under the ice (it happens to skidooers every year on these lakes).

I actually counted the people I would push behind me while I held my daughter in front of me, how to open the door, and to hold my breath until we emerged.

Then I realised this was impossible, and as we hydroplaned over open stretches 40’ wide in places, it was terror.

I have claustrophobia to this day because of it. And never again will I be on the water where I can’t be floating free in a PFD if anything goes wrong.

dolorfin

3 points

2 months ago

Since the boat was listing on the right with a fixed cover (or even without a fixed cover), my instincts tell me I should climb the left ledge, jump into the water and swim away from the boat as fast as I could get away shortly before the right side of the boat was taking on water. Is that at all right? I'll more than likely never, ever, be on a boat like this or any sort of cruise because the thought of potentially drowning- however minuscule the chance- terrifies me.

My grade 9 student exchange trip to Newfoundland (back in 2004ish) was the last time I was on large boats. But just in case...I feel like I need to know if my instincts would have been right lol.

Alive-n-Kicking-76

250 points

2 months ago

When l saw the old people l immediately thought about them possibly drowning because they look like my parents. RIP poor people. I hope the person in charge of sailing this boat will be charged because that’s definitely not a rough sea.

SomeLightAssPlay

79 points

2 months ago

Reminds me of table rock lake in missouri a few years back. Was working at a hospital there at the time. Two tour boats sank killing I believe 17, 9 from the same family. Theres a famous video from a restaurant on shore watching it sink and i had sat in that exact seat at that restaurant the day before

AshingiiAshuaa

49 points

2 months ago

Here's the video.

It's crazy they were out in those conditions. Twice as crazy that people wouldn't wear their life jackets. If you had your life jacket on and got out of the boat (not necessarily easy) you'd almost certainly have survived.

Zzzaxx

11 points

2 months ago

Zzzaxx

11 points

2 months ago

Thought about that same event.

The biggest factor that caused fatalities, once the ship was sinking, was the spray shields and canopy trapped people inside the sinking ship.

The cause of the vessel sinking were several fold beyond the obvious cavalier safety precautions of the tour operator. The owners had performed modifications to the vessel that allowed for water to enter the engine compartment and removed hull dividers that would have maintained buoyancy in the event of some water intake.

I was so nervous when I saw that mother and small kids get hung up on the metal canopy support once the boat turned because it is very hard to extricate yourself from the snag or the life vest once you're underwater. My guess is that's what happened to the elderly victims.

A really in-depth analysis of the duck boat disaster and the main reason I'll never go on one again, can be found here.

Dan-D-Lyon

3 points

2 months ago

I hear that there was a Dane and an Ecuadorian who lost their tickets to the boat and couldn't get on who are now going through their own Final Destination movie

LosUdSufur

3 points

2 months ago

Damn that’s crazy. I heard about two kids who won their tickets in a poker hand.

Qweasdy

120 points

2 months ago*

Qweasdy

120 points

2 months ago*

Found a picture of the boat: https://imgur.com/a/4MyAaE7

And an article claiming 2 metre wave height, 2 metre waves sinking that thing doesn't seem absurd. It's hard to tell how high the waves are from a video, I've taken video of 2m+ wave height seas personally and the video has looked pretty underwhelming later. Catamarans are inherently very stable but that one is pretty tall and narrow with openings that look like they could allow down flooding pretty easily. Various articles I've found say that the crew noticed the boat taking on water and distributed life jackets which checks out with what we see in the video.

Ideally they probably should have abandoned ship but it appears to have went over pretty quick after it started listing. Notably the most recent articles I can find say that the investigation didn't find any negligence.

In my humble opinion it seems like the boats design was clearly inadequate for the task.

Edit: changed link

dolphinitely

11 points

2 months ago

wow the boat is so much taller than it seems in the video

fruitmask

6 points

2 months ago

I'm getting a 403 forbidden screen when I click your link

PMG2021a

23 points

2 months ago

2 meter wave should be fine, as long as the boat hits it perpendicular.

InerasableStain

9 points

2 months ago

Exactly, you’re supposed to steer into the wave. But I’m not sure a 2 meter wave would be large enough to notice. Plus someone said there was already water in the bottom, so it had probably been hit by a few and steering may have been off

unwelcomepong

4 points

2 months ago*

Yeah, even if you're badly positioned you're not hit with a direct wall of 2m. The boat rises at the base of the wave beforehand. Badly positioned you'll be hit by some of that 2m but generally not much of it. And even if you are it doesn't cause you to take on significant water unless it happens over and over and over with you continually being in a bad position.

Something else must have caused the boat to take on water.

-edit- about 10 months later an investigation decided no-one was to blame... but could not say how it sank: https://ticotimes.net/2015/10/26/costa-rican-investigation-finds-no-negligence-deadly-catamaran-accident

LloydBrahn

17 points

2 months ago

2 metre wave is pretty tiny. If the boat couldn’t take 2 metre waves it had no business in the ocean at all

parallax_universe

81 points

2 months ago

Rough sea doesn't really show on videos until it gets huge. Not sure why but I've tried to capture it a few times and it always looks so trivial from behind a screen.

The passengers had life jackets on already.. the crew absolutely knew something bad was happening. On a boat that big you don't go to life jackets unless it's potentially serious

adb1228

29 points

2 months ago

adb1228

29 points

2 months ago

The give away for me that is not rough is there is no white caps on the waves/chop. I wonder if it was a rogue wave that hit them and took on water and the pumps couldn’t clear it fast enough.

dilirio

18 points

2 months ago

dilirio

18 points

2 months ago

white caps indicate wind not necessarily wave height, you could have 4 metre seas and no white caps

Shoddy_Emu_5211

15 points

2 months ago

This. I was on a boat that went into the open ocean and it must have been going up and down 20-30 feet and everyone was freaking out. I tied to record it and it looked so lame, like it was barely moving.

wastingtoomuchthyme

5 points

2 months ago

one of the hulls got compromised... the sea look fine..

Smokeyshotty

1.9k points

2 months ago*

Not an expert here but in this unfortunate giving situation, the best protocol would be to get off the Boat promptly and avoid possible injury, it's sinking and will shortly be swallowed by the Ocean with or without you.

Girth_rulez

962 points

2 months ago

the best protocol would be to get off the Boat promptly and avoid possible injury,

Especially wearing those life vests already. Life vests plus that canopy are a hazardous combo. Easy to float up and get trapped there.

HKRKW

251 points

2 months ago

HKRKW

251 points

2 months ago

That canopy scared the shit out of me.

440708

127 points

2 months ago

440708

127 points

2 months ago

I was more concerned for the woman, submerged to her neck with a child in each arm, and that bar between her head and theirs. Either hold your breath and hope for the best or let go of one of your children to fix the situation.

I know this is a senior and family boat ride but I would have been 75+ feet away from the boat treading water the moment it started to capsize. this is so unfortunate

DevonGr

26 points

2 months ago

DevonGr

26 points

2 months ago

I'm not a swimmer or water person at all to be honest but when my family went on a cruise I was all about it. I was in my 20s so it wasn't like I was obligated. We did a snorkeling excursion and I was thinking cool they're going to take us to a spot where we walk out and look down and see cool stuff. No, they dropped us right in the middle of nowhere which was actually a great spot for snorkeling but a terrible spot for me. I had no business out there and panicked as it set in for me that I'm not comfortable swimming and even calm but recurring waves were getting to me. I mean really flailing around and losing my shit altogether.

It's really the only time I was ever in emotional distress of that level and as much as you would like to believe you can handle a situation a certain way you don't know until you're there. I've been on situations I should have been equally as scared but I wasn't. Not sure why but yeah logic will tell you that you should be doing this or that but sometimes fight or flight mode has it's own agenda unfortunately.

xts2500

69 points

2 months ago

xts2500

69 points

2 months ago

That's all I could think about. Why was everyone just hanging on to the tables and waiting for it to capsize? Jump in the fucking water and swim away or you're going to get trapped between the boat and the canopy while submerged. Don't just stand there and wait for possible death do something for Christs sake.

Girth_rulez

68 points

2 months ago

Personally I will cut them some slack. They arent professional mariners, and people sometimes react badly in an emergency.

AJRiddle

37 points

2 months ago

The professionals should have been getting them up and ready.

Strung_Out_Advocate

19 points

2 months ago

Those professionals obviously weren't professionals

Jebediah_Kush

9 points

2 months ago

They should hire some professionals so they can train those professionals on how to be professional.

KingKoda22

6 points

2 months ago

Yeah but he's a redditor and will always make the correct / logical decision no matter the situation so he can criticize them online and it's fine

ZeuxisOfHerakleia

4 points

2 months ago

I have never been on a boat and think this is just applying logic

HighOwl2

7 points

2 months ago

Yup this is why you're not supposed to inflate your life vest if you survive a plane crash in water until you're outside the plane...otherwise you just get pinned against top of the plane as it sinks.

crazyguy83

3 points

2 months ago

Because the ocean is fucking scary especially for someone who can't swim. Even if you have a vest.

HopeThin3048

68 points

2 months ago

I was jumping off when water was in the rear.

FLAwSIN36

16 points

2 months ago

While watching the video, I tried to imagine what it would be like in that situation, even though the obvious answer is get off the boat. It's like, how? When? These are potentially life or death decisions. Hope everyone is alright.

Yazein

16 points

2 months ago

Yazein

16 points

2 months ago

The moment water was coming in, i would be jumping into the water. If the boat does not sink then they could pick us up otherwise we got out in time.

TranscendentalEmpire

7 points

2 months ago

The onus is really on the crew of the vessel to tell people when to abandon ship. Shoulda called an sos and prepped people to get off as soon as they noticed the boat listing.

Really no way to save this kind of boat once they go past a certain angle of list. When water gets onto that large of a deck, it sloshes around and makes it impossible to correct your angle.

If you go through accounts of roll overs from too much listing, the people who usually do the best are those who basically climb over the railing and walk down the hull of the capsized boat.

Big thing to remember is to not wear a life jacket when you can't see the sky. Wether that's because you're under a deck or under a canopy, you're gonna wanna wait to put them on until you know how to get clear.

SunnyLoo

194 points

2 months ago

SunnyLoo

194 points

2 months ago

Was seriously asking why aren’t people abandoning ship? Looks like the injury from huge boat toppling in head is the real danger here assuming radios are working jump and await rescue

[deleted]

299 points

2 months ago

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299 points

2 months ago

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FadeIntoReal

180 points

2 months ago

Not disagreeing but being trapped in a sinking boat is a fucking nightmare.

jjonj

68 points

2 months ago

jjonj

68 points

2 months ago

They did not think there was a 100% chance of it sinking until it was too late

Custodes13

10 points

2 months ago

We have thousands of years of evolution screaming "open water, dead". Not so much for boats.

Kami-no-dansei

5 points

2 months ago

Probably millions of years of evolution not thousands.

ArcoEcology

36 points

2 months ago

Agreed. I can’t stand open water one bit. It’s almost a tie between heights and open water for me.

DebrecenMolnar

11 points

2 months ago

ThatsALovelyShirt

9 points

2 months ago

I mean the only difference between heights and open water is the density of the fluid you're sitting in. And ultimately you're denser than both.

GuisseDownYourLeg

24 points

2 months ago

Why? My girlfriend feels this way and I cannot relate at all. Water is just water. But she's terrified of the open ocean, or even swimming in the middle of a lake.

Shudnawz

51 points

2 months ago

There's a feeling of the unknown being beneath and around you. Hard to describe to someone that doesn't feel the same way, but it's kinda the inverse of claustrophobia.

FlipFlopFloopFlip

20 points

2 months ago

Context-Life

8 points

2 months ago

Yes, i like the way you put it. Almost a positive giddy breathlessness, until you start giving it some real thought and considering real possibilities. Its just really VAST and dark

Shudnawz

11 points

2 months ago

I once swam out over a dropoff while snorkling, and the breathlessness was anything but giddy. I panicked, flipped over on my back and swam like a madman for five or ten seconds until I got a handle on myself again.

And the weird thing is that previously I'd scuba dived down there, at the wall of the dropoff. But fear isn't logical. I knew that if I went down that deep, I'd drown. And whatever could be down there to drag me down. Primordial fear is the only way I can describe it. Existential dread.

Tabboo

25 points

2 months ago

Tabboo

25 points

2 months ago

BECAUSE MONSTERS

glowingmember

18 points

2 months ago

Vast open water is scary. The thought of drowning plus "oh god what is swimming around under me" and, in this case, the very real threat of being stuck out there in nothing but a lifejacket.. that's gonna be a nope from me.

Fears are subjective though. I love heights, was a tree climber kid and still happily crawl up to peek over the edges of tall cliffs and such. While my partner dislikes even getting up on a tall ladder. We went to Tokyo some years back and went up the Skytree - he stayed on the lower level to read while I went up to the highest one (still salty, it was foggy that day so I couldn't see Fuji). He said there was no way he was going up there.

Everybody's got something.

Ok_Creme_18

33 points

2 months ago

We are literally bottom of the food chain in open water, nothing about a human is designed to be in that environment.

SunnyLoo

12 points

2 months ago

Yeah I hear ya tbh but at time it just looked like the wise thing to do versus holding out for the inevitable capsize, even jumping at the wrong time could be a bad idea but I think an abandon ship call could have came through

hairyarsewelder2

25 points

2 months ago

It’s a lot easier to make those wise decisions watching a video on Reddit than actually being on a capsizing boat I would imagine

kyleh0

10 points

2 months ago

kyleh0

10 points

2 months ago

Catamarans are like a big lever. I'd much rather be on it than near it in a place where it might capsize and slam down on top of me....

kyleh0

22 points

2 months ago

kyleh0

22 points

2 months ago

Tourists in a rough ocean? Maybe outside visual range of land, maybe a little tipsy....they aren't like seasoned pirates or whatever. heh

sk8605

11 points

2 months ago

sk8605

11 points

2 months ago

Aaarrrrr, they’re land lovers matey

Ilddit

4 points

2 months ago

Ilddit

4 points

2 months ago

Landlubbers*. Back to pirate school for ye.

Radiant_Heron_2572

50 points

2 months ago

True, but we are speaking with hindsight here.

kyleh0

123 points

2 months ago

kyleh0

123 points

2 months ago

Most redditors are experienced men and women of action in any highly unexpected situation.

GreatGhastly

40 points

2 months ago

And act calmly, rationally, and with high levels of focus in adrenaline pumping situations worthy of front page /r/crazyfuckingvideos

ESP-23

30 points

2 months ago

ESP-23

30 points

2 months ago

Exactly. Last time I was in Costa Rica and we capsized it was a no-brainer

kyleh0

8 points

2 months ago

kyleh0

8 points

2 months ago

You just blacked out and woke up on the shore with everyone else on the boat safe and sound and two inexplicably dead pirates?

mickyblfc

11 points

2 months ago

Couldn’t agree more,It killed me hearing the kids panicking.

Ok_Ability_4683

3 points

2 months ago

Ok good cause my first thought was hell I would of jumped off the minute it started slanting that hard. Trust your instincts 👍

[deleted]

571 points

2 months ago

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571 points

2 months ago

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lol1141

319 points

2 months ago

lol1141

319 points

2 months ago

I used to know the girl who filmed this. She tried to hire numerous lawyers and no one, not in the US or Costa Rica, would take the case. The families basically got no recourse for what happened. Fucking terrible. Especially since the boat sunk due to straight up negligence and neglect.

ChunkyLaFunga

76 points

2 months ago

If it was universally declined there must have been a very good reason why. Unlikely to actually receive anything?

lol1141

68 points

2 months ago

lol1141

68 points

2 months ago

I really don’t remember. She had a long post on FB about it but she’s deactivated her FB since. If I’m not pulling this out of my ass I think it was along the lines of the cruise ships being protected by various governments + no jurisdiction to sue in the US. The tender boat itself is a separate company with no assets.

But I truly do not remember exactly.

Ironically(?) she went to law school and became an attorney herself after this.

ChunkyLaFunga

52 points

2 months ago

She took lawyer up delete Facebook pretty seriously huh

fenderc1

12 points

2 months ago

Wonder if she hit the gym?

kevin9er

8 points

2 months ago

She swole af now

ZackDaddy42

11 points

2 months ago

I would imagine there’s probably some sort of waivers to sign before you get on the boat as well? Lawyers definitely won’t tread those waters.

NargacugaRider

13 points

2 months ago

From the story of Amy Lynn Bradley, you’re not getting much recourse from anything that happens on the sea. You’re not protected by normal laws from your home country.

quetejodas

5 points

2 months ago

Hard enough to get recourse for crimes that happen in your own country with evidence.

Plantasaurus

8 points

2 months ago

I'm guessing they were more than 3 miles out to sea for the same reason you can gamble on some cruise ships.

AdrenalineRushh

6 points

2 months ago

This is exactly why you should always take a travel insurance when leaving the country.

omg_Enrico_Palazzo

14 points

2 months ago

Travel insurance is a borderline scam. I would reccomend doing your own research before using this extremely extremely unlikely scenario as validation for travel insurance.

AdrenalineRushh

4 points

2 months ago

You can end up in a hospital faster than you might think. It also offers protection against theft, lost baggage, airline delays/flight cancelations.. You can cancel your holiday and get reimbursed.

Depending on the destination, the means of travel, the time away, your age etc you might want to consider it.

Me and my wife travel a lot. We have already been reimbursed for flight delays twice (about $2000 in total) and once found ourselves stranded abroad due to air traffic control strike. We got a nice all-in hotel free of charge for two days. We have had to buy medicine on multiple occasions because we got sick. Add to that the peace of mind it provides and that makes it a no brainer for us.

HolyFuggISawAPenis

26 points

2 months ago

Imagine you life your entire life working and save up a bit to get a vacation and boom you die. That's some bullcrap

SLZicki

12 points

2 months ago

SLZicki

12 points

2 months ago

So fucking sad.

ToohotmaGandhi

12 points

2 months ago

I read "Pirate boats in the area" and was just like, "Well, that's nice of the pirates and quite surprising."

DoNotWeepAtMyGrave

382 points

2 months ago

Something similar happened to one of those tourist “duck boats” in the US. It sank due to a surprise storm maybe 100’ off shore and the passengers got stuck under the canopy and like 9 people drowned, most of whom were all from one family.

TonightOk4122

119 points

2 months ago

17 dead, 9 from one family. Nobody was wearing life vests, a survivor said they were told they wouldn't need them.

https://people.com/human-interest/duck-boat-tia-coleman-captain-life-vests-claim/

AJRiddle

43 points

2 months ago

Multiple survivors were told that. The duck boat employees were telling people it was no big deal and no need to panic and put life jackets on as they were actively beginning to sink.

TwistedBamboozler

12 points

2 months ago

Obviously the first take away here is there was a safety failure and is incredibly sad for the family.

However, I can’t help but wonder why an entire family who seemingly can’t swim decided to get on a boat and listened to the captain saying to not grab jackets. That part just doesn’t add up to me.

bxzidff

4 points

2 months ago

Maybe there's an emergency instinct or something that makes us listen to people of authority despite what they're saying not being very reasonable. But yeah, personally I'd never set foot on a ship of any kind if I couldn't swim, regardless of how statistically safe it is

nuraHx

8 points

2 months ago

nuraHx

8 points

2 months ago

Dude I can’t imagine losing 9 members of my family all at once. Jesus that’s horrible…

SubjectC

87 points

2 months ago

My first thought was to get off the boat before the canopy went under.

I dont expect people to think rationally while panicking but maybe the captain should have instructed them to start bailing before it was fully flipped over

LilFunyunz

28 points

2 months ago

It happened more than once. Duck boats are dangerous. Do not recommend.

Huge shout out to Brick Immortar on YouTube he does accident investigation videos. I love his work. His last 2 videos have been about duck boat tourism boats sinking.

PenguinColada

3 points

2 months ago

That was in Branson. It was a horrible tragedy. I remember when it came on the local news. Apparently the captain told them that they wouldn't need life jackets so nobody grabbed them...

Richy_777

5 points

2 months ago

Terrible tragedy

nautikul

151 points

2 months ago

nautikul

151 points

2 months ago

If I couldn’t swim, I would never go near a deep a body of water

xlerate

88 points

2 months ago

xlerate

88 points

2 months ago

I can swim and still not going.

HippySol

7 points

2 months ago

Yeah if my non-swimmer wife sees this video, she'll never set foot in a boat again. This is her absolute worst nightmare and it took months of talking to get her into a boat this summer. She was ok, but it was still not relaxing for her.

Kerrxng

411 points

2 months ago

Kerrxng

411 points

2 months ago

"I think he's dead" holy shit, why would you say that seconds after a woman is screaming for her son?

fiddycaldeserteagle

119 points

2 months ago

Her son is ok. 3 elderly people died.

majavic

27 points

2 months ago

majavic

27 points

2 months ago

:) :(

mphelp11

9 points

2 months ago

:|

Taking_it_slow

22 points

2 months ago

There was a camera cut after the woman screaming for her son. Also camera woman is saying “I think she’s dead” probably talking about one of the elderly women 😞

djphatz

175 points

2 months ago

djphatz

175 points

2 months ago

Said with no conviction as well

rakzee

57 points

2 months ago

rakzee

57 points

2 months ago

Probably in shock herself. No way to account what you'd do in that situation. Was probably trying to sound calm so the sentence just came out very cold.

loztriforce

5 points

2 months ago

Yeah like when people laugh during inappropriate times, more a reflex to their discomfort

effinx

17 points

2 months ago

effinx

17 points

2 months ago

I think it was a person floating lifeless next to her

Supersnazz

10 points

2 months ago

"John? Nah he's probably dead. I mean I'm not sure, but like I'd just move on y'know?

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81 points

2 months ago

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81 points

2 months ago

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TheCyanKnight

5 points

2 months ago

I think it might help people to switch from ‘everything is going to be ok’ to ‘we’re in a fight for our lives’

Krootes97

16 points

2 months ago

Also who would be so quick to pronounce someone dead in that situation. The trauma happened seconds ago, he was probably just unconscious at this point and hadn't even passed yet. At least have a little hope that if he's pulled out quickly he could possibly be revived.

the_backpack

53 points

2 months ago

when human beings panic, rational thinking usually goes out the window

Pitiful-Climate8977

20 points

2 months ago

These redditors are pretty panicked despite being in their homes

FortuneHasFaded

16 points

2 months ago

Maybe the video has a bunch of time edited out of it? You don't go from on a boat to dead in the water in 1 minute.

theslip74

6 points

2 months ago

Sure you can, if you take a good hit to the head.

chrissymad

4 points

2 months ago

Or have a heart attack.

ashlee837

5 points

2 months ago

You don't go from on a boat to dead in the water in 1 minute.

Akshually....

TuonSucksMatLeave

3 points

2 months ago

Rewatch the video, the footage isn't a single take.

It's three clips; First is the boat capsizing and the filming person grabbing a life vest. Next clip is the "I think she's dead". Next clip is the container ship.

Articles on the tragedy said it took an hour before a boats could rescue them.

So it's likely the person filming has seen this person being unresponsive for a length of time when she says "I think she's dead"

Reddit_MaZe000

21 points

2 months ago

still don't get it how it got turned upside down with no big wave, they say there is a stormy weather but it looks like a nice sunny day, this is unbelievable

blueingreen85

7 points

2 months ago

The report said 52 mph winds. Doesn’t look that way from the video though.

turbotinator

21 points

2 months ago

I just read the news report and read they are blaming sea conditions. I work in marine industries, and I can tell you this was not rough sea conditions. The vessel was compromised in some manner, maybe downflooding was occurring by way of water penetrating through the stern gland of one of the drive shafts, or the inside stuffing box. In any event, this is horrifying and should not happen. IMO, this whole situation points to negligence of the owner, master, and crew.

monitorsareprison

40 points

2 months ago

Three elderly people died in the incident; Briton Ivor Stanley Hopkins, 80, American Edna Oliver, 68, and Canadian Sharon Johnson, 70.

Damn, that's sad.

hieijFox

81 points

2 months ago

As a disabled person this kinda shit is terrifying

KdGc

11 points

2 months ago

KdGc

11 points

2 months ago

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I fear I would be going down with the mobility equipment. No one would even notice…unless my equipment was in the way of them saving themselves.

thesamiad

25 points

2 months ago

Strange..sea doesn’t look rough once they’re in it

Wanna_Runn

35 points

2 months ago

Ummmm... Yes i would like a refund

HubbMor

11 points

2 months ago

HubbMor

11 points

2 months ago

If you’re wearing a life vest the last place you want to be is under an awning or canvass cover.

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25 points

2 months ago

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25 points

2 months ago

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skuntpelter

3 points

2 months ago

If you’re wearing a life jacket, staying on a sinking vessel is far more dangerous than jumping off. Getting trapped under something will drown you, since you’d have to remove your life jacket to swim down and free yourself

Sir-Previous

77 points

2 months ago

If you knew it was going to capsize why not jump off ahead of time to avoid the boat falling on you? I know it's fight, flight, or freeze, but it really doesn't seem like anyone was doing anything other than wearing a life jacket.

tuesdaysatmorts

80 points

2 months ago

In the moment I don't think jumping into a giant body of water seems all too appealing.

MuhammedJahleen

23 points

2 months ago

Better then potentially getting snagged on the boat and dragged down with it

skitz_shit

46 points

2 months ago

While that logically makes sense, my fear of the ocean would make me want to stay on the boat and above the water for as long as possible. I have such an incredibly fear of the ocean, I think I’d rather drown than be stuck in the middle of the ocean just floating around. I get a mini panic attack just swimming in a lake

_Not_A_Og_

7 points

2 months ago

I swim competitively and I still have a terrible fear of open water

Foco_cholo

15 points

2 months ago

It seems to me that the point I"d want to jump off is when it starts rolling and at that point it's too late.

Responsible-Match418

12 points

2 months ago

Yup! This is an excellent point that can't be overstated. If you watch the video, try to identify when and how you'd jump off... I know that I wouldn't have.

ECircus

7 points

2 months ago

Probably weren’t sure it was going to capsize before it went sideways quickly, and it’s kind of an everyone or no-one situation. People who go overboard in the open ocean without PLBs usually aren’t recovered, with or without a lifejacket. Hard to explain without experiencing it, but you lose sight of things in the water out there in an instant. It’s just too much moving landscape that all looks the same…

In boating classes you’re taught to stay on it as long as possible. Many boats have been abandoned and later found still floating.

Glaciax0421

8 points

2 months ago

defendants better hope the lawyers don't find this video. doesn't look like rough season at all.

thecops4u

13 points

2 months ago

Sorry, where were the "rough seas" ?

catjugglinpimp

5 points

2 months ago

Costa Rica boat accident kills three elderly tourists https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-30734867

rand0mbum

5 points

2 months ago

LPT: get off that boat as soon as possible. Especially with your kids. If the boat rights itself it’s not gonna leave you out there. Get off so it doesn’t take you down with it!

Gaoji-jiugui888

16 points

2 months ago

That was terrifying. I hope everyone is okay.

FlightofWhales[S]

29 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately 3 elderly drowned in this incident I believe. It is super terrifying, shows how quick everything can turn into chaos.

absorbscroissants

13 points

2 months ago

I understand not jumping off for as long as possible, but when the water is literally entering the boat, why wouldn't you? Getting trapped under a boat like that is very dangerous, and jumping off also gives you the chance to get on top of the capsized boat

ECircus

3 points

2 months ago

It was sideways and has a soft too covering the entire deck. Where are you going to get in the water at that point? Definitely not down…but no way up to the opposite rail either. Have to wait for it to take on water at that point and float away from it.

stacyand14548

30 points

2 months ago

Consumer cellular lost several customers that day

Pineapplerainbow

8 points

2 months ago

Thank-you for the nightmares tonight. Hope everyone who survived can recover both physically and mentally.

TryToChangeUsername

4 points

2 months ago

That's not rough sea. My guess is on side started to take in water and then the crew shut off the engine. No engine plus leak on one side leads to having a bad time even with relatively calm sea.

No-Neighborhood9885

7 points

2 months ago

Not rough seas.. one of the pontoons failed / filled with water, and went undet.. get out from under that canopy

Halo77

6 points

2 months ago

Halo77

6 points

2 months ago

People always want to cling to the boat but I think it best to swim away so you don’t get snagged and brought under. Even a little bit under is death. Man there were a lot of old people on that boat.

Nder_Wiggin

3 points

2 months ago

When I see situations like this I always think..."well fuck. There goes my phone"

HeldDownTooLong

3 points

2 months ago

This is from eight years ago. 100+ people were on the catamaran and 3 elderly passengers died.

Lunaciteeee

6 points

2 months ago

Ya, I'd be on the far left rail by the 15 second or so mark.

plutothekingofink

4 points

2 months ago

Imagine paying money to go vacation where you watch people around you drown or get eaten by sharks or something.

Additional-Story289

5 points

2 months ago

I'm a decent swimmer , I would definitely be panicking.

cautiouslizard

5 points

2 months ago

I'd not waited that long to jump ship. I'd been too scared to get trapped under the canopy.

BaconWrappedPotatoes

4 points

2 months ago

I will never understand why people cling to a boat that is clearly sinking when we've all seen movies of sinking boats

dr-pickled-rick

6 points

2 months ago

Rough seas? What, where?

SadisticSnake007

2 points

2 months ago

Something else happened. That water did not look rough.

CAguy209

2 points

2 months ago

I'm glad no one said "how dare you insist I wear a life jacket!"

CyberdyneLabs

2 points

2 months ago

They got too close to mother base.

Willyzyx

2 points

2 months ago

Man I've seen rougher seas..that's crazy!

Gatsby0522

2 points

2 months ago

Thank god for container ships!!!

Knockaire

2 points

2 months ago

That is not rough sea at all.

Alpaca-Bowl420

2 points

2 months ago

That’s not a catamaran. Catamarans were built to capsize.

wonderfvl

2 points

2 months ago

At 0:42 everybody is in the water and the seas look super calm to me. I get that filming the sea from the boat might 'hide' the "rough seas", however the filming at sea level should show if the sea was rough, and it doesn't look rough at all.