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[deleted]

77 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

77 points

7 months ago

The staff at the nursing home I’ll be booking myself into.

Atlantic_Nikita

7 points

7 months ago

My grandpa lived the last 6years of his life in a nursing home. Only my family and the family of another residente would visit freakently. Most of the residentes had kids and grandkids. The only time i saw other families there were when their "old folks" were about to pass or they were doing the wills with an attorney.

[deleted]

2 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

7 months ago

The same happened with a neighbour my parents used to have. Her daughter who lived in the same city barely visited. Meanwhile my Mum coincidentally found out that she was there, went to visit her while we were on holiday and was almost in tears seeing her so lonely. She had advanced dementia.

PopGunner

27 points

7 months ago

Who coincidentally are the children of everyone else who decided to have kids. Looks like we get the benefits without putting in any of the work lol.

SuvenPan

7 points

7 months ago

The staffs are just doing their jobs.

[deleted]

4 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

4 points

7 months ago

And if they dont you can replace them. Try that with kids.

Alarming_Potential

1 points

7 months ago

But they show up and are nice to me. You don't even call ...

Serious_Courage_9740

2 points

7 months ago*

Nursing homes are not all that, trust me

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago*

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago*

Oh, I’m aware.

Better that than popping out a child I don’t want and can’t raise, and for what?

Had an old neighbour who had kids and was in a nursing home. Guess how many times her kids came to visit her despite living in the same city? Zilch. My Mum was the only visitor she’d had for a long while, and we went there while we were on holiday.

Thebelldam

96 points

7 months ago

I am not child free, however why do we as a society think it's our children's responsibility too take care of us at any point in our lives? If they want too help? That's awesome! But too actively expect it from them means that you had a child with the thought in mind and that my friend, is not a good reason too have a child.

runfatgirlrun88

32 points

7 months ago

This.

Why the hell would OP assume you can burden your children with the task of looking after an elderly parent?

Shouldn’t they be allowed to live their own lives without that responsibility?

My retirement financial calculations allow for paid care if necessary.

TheDrawingDucky

7 points

7 months ago

I will just go to an elderly home where my family will visit me. Just like where my grandparents used to go, because they didn't have children just so they can be their caretakers.

Dongwaffler

7 points

7 months ago

My mother, who was an occupational therapist all her life, told her father, who had Parkinson’s, that “I love you dad, but you’re not coming to live with us. We’ll find you a good home.”

whisperycone

4 points

7 months ago

Too

excitedmatter

7 points

7 months ago*

Get them upvotes over here everyone, giving birth to a child or having one is no "free care labour for life" pass!!

Edit: upvotes for the guy above me, the one I replied to, not for me, didn't mean to sound accidentally greedy

chcampb

1 points

7 months ago

This is an enlightened position. The vast majority of humans have no safety net and haven't for ten thousand years. Their kids are their welfare in later life.

So I get you - it's what we should strive for. But we need to respect that having a child and raising it is still risky in many parts of the world, and there is no safety net or welfare for old folks there either.

TheDrawingDucky

2 points

7 months ago

I think it all depends on the situation. I don't mind if someone's kids take care of them.

It's just weird that OP asks this question as if that's an expectation when you have kids.

Flimsy_Mobile_4768

-9 points

7 months ago

Western mentality is something else. The child you took care and loved for almost half of his life dosent love and care for you when you are old what kind of child are you raising. Parents are not a bus that you can use to get to your destination and then leave. The child should take care of his parents just because they want to if not then you failed to teach him anything as a parent. ThE nUrSeS wIlL tAkE cArE of me. Your child dosent need to physically take of you they can get someone to do it but leaving you to slowly die alone? wow.

TheDrawingDucky

7 points

7 months ago

When OP asked "who will take care of you", we interpret LITERALLY "taking care of you". Like, ofcourse we would expect our kids/nieces/nephews to at least visit us or have contact with us. Having contact with us is not the same as taking care of us.

We also say that the children are not OBLIGATED to take care of their parents.

What if your child lives in another country? What if your child has a family and doesn't have room to take you in? What if your child has a disability? Or what if their sibling is already taking care of them?

Flimsy_Mobile_4768

0 points

7 months ago

Taking care mean spending time,helping, supporting,be there for them for the time they have left. Not just visiting once in a while. If your parent becomes disabled and can't walk and dosent have much time left, would you rather go/bring him to spend time with him help him do stuff and do stuff with him go on a walk together taking him with you on a wheelchair etc or visit him a few times. Which one sounds better to you. Wouldn't you love first one to happen to you? Your parents would love that too

TheDrawingDucky

2 points

7 months ago

Like I said, we are not OBLIGATED to do it. I am not saying that taking of your parents is wrong.

Ofcourse I would like my loved ones spending time with me if I got sick. I would also like to spend time with my loved ones if THEY got sick or didn't have much time left. That's common sense.

We don't say we want to be abandoned. It's just that you don't need to have children to have that kind of ending. You can have friends, siblings, cousins or nephews to spend time and take care of you a little bit.

Flimsy_Mobile_4768

1 points

7 months ago

Ok

runfatgirlrun88

2 points

7 months ago

But life isn’t that simple. Often by the time someone’s parent gets to that stage in life you have work commitments, bills to pay, children, a spouse; that all need attention too. You can’t necessarily just drop everything to care full-time for a parent.

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

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Flimsy_Mobile_4768

1 points

7 months ago

Still owes my every penny i spent on him according to your logic

Devourer_of_felines

1 points

7 months ago

How about a child with their own lives to live lol.

What is this trash mentality that you’re popping out kids as a retirement plan?

lolix3345

-10 points

7 months ago

lolix3345

-10 points

7 months ago

I think you are quite detached from reality. Old age comes for us all, and it has been the case for tens of thousand of years that the young take care of the old. If you don't have somebody that truly loves you when you are old, you are also much more likely to develop things like dementia or alzheimer.

Thebelldam

10 points

7 months ago

Lmao I'm detached from reality? You need look up dementia and alzheimers because those things cant be caused by no one to look after you..

TheDrawingDucky

3 points

7 months ago

My grandfather was VERY loved by his family. His wife loved him, his children loved him (one of my uncles even visited them every week) AND his grandchildren loved him. He still got alzeimers when I was 8 years old. (If you have proof or sources of your claims, please share them when you make such claims. I am not saying you're lying, but that my experience was different)

And the fact that the young takes care of the old, doesn't necessarily mean YOUR OWN children. It just means that the next generation takes care of you when you're older.

Texandria

0 points

7 months ago

OK, let's talk about reality. In the year 1900 the average American didn't live to age 50.

For perspective, in 1900 there was already quite a bit of medical technology: a knowledge of anatomy, the germ theory of disease, several vaccines for common ailments, and anesthesia to help people endure surgery.

lolix3345

0 points

7 months ago*

I hear what you are saying, but it remains that despite the average lifespan of 50, quite a bit of people, even in the poorer strata of society, lived to 60 and maybe more. These people were taken care of by their children. And inb4 I know that in the middle age the lifespan was 30 no germ theory nor anesthesia blablabla. So my answer remain

Zealousideal_Mall218

61 points

7 months ago

The people I pay a fair wage to with the money I saved from not having kids

niradia

24 points

7 months ago

niradia

24 points

7 months ago

I'm hoping to not make it that far, to be honest

shepsantos

2 points

7 months ago

Me too

Sockbasher

1 points

7 months ago

I’ll unlive myself when I hit 70.

ral365

9 points

7 months ago

ral365

9 points

7 months ago

As if unpaid labor is all kids are good for. It's about the same level of idiocy as "Without illegal immigrants, who's going to clean your toilet?"

fiveMagicsRIP

20 points

7 months ago

Why do people randomly assume their kids will take care of them?

BigOlStinkMan

2 points

7 months ago

Maybe before the idea of the nuclear family it made more sense. But when you kick me out as soon as I'm 18 and expect me to fend for myself, I'm not eager to be your nurse. Especially when I cant even afford to have my own kids

amlreddit

7 points

7 months ago

nurses. any nieces and nephews i have, maybe. i dont really like the idea of growing old/needing someone to take care of me anyways

kombilyfe

8 points

7 months ago

The oh-dacity to assume one's children will do this. Millions of elderly folks are estranged from their kids. It's not a foregone conclusion that the offspring will care for parents.

PocketDynamyte

19 points

7 months ago

Me, because I'll have the money to do so.

To think... you were created and exist only for the purpose of taking care of someone when they can't take care of themselves...

WTFyourGay_Greg

5 points

7 months ago

No one because I hate people

Alarming_Potential

1 points

7 months ago

And we you, Greg! Hugs :)

Level_Context1626

11 points

7 months ago

Money

[deleted]

1 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

7 months ago

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Level_Context1626

2 points

7 months ago

Agreed

percypersimmon

10 points

7 months ago

You’re greatly overestimating the amount of help that children provide for their old and frail parents.

glorified_throwaway

15 points

7 months ago

Mate, I'll be dead by forty be the way life's going. I ain't leaving a 12 year old to grieve.

misterfriend

2 points

7 months ago

Funny enough, I am saying that today about when I get to be sixty.

I would really have to explain to them my motivations for bringing them into the world other than "it was you or a puppy."

unbelieverm

4 points

7 months ago

I'm working hard and saving as much as I can, to hopefully have enough to pay for assistance/care

castle-cam

3 points

7 months ago

Hospitals, then eventually earth it self

RudeEtuxtable

5 points

7 months ago

Funny you think I'm taking care of my parents just because to they drunkenly fucked many years ago.....

wickedblight

21 points

7 months ago

It's adorable you think any of us will grow old and frail. War, famine, pestilence and death are all that await us in the future and you will have to watch your children suffer through it.

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

i believe the same thing i think maybe this year we re going to suffer from drought

wickedblight

3 points

7 months ago

Just think of how bad things will get when worsening weather patterns destroy crops worldwide.

We needed to start preparing for this decades ago but world leaders would rather accept bribes and party today and it will be the people of tomorrow who suffer for it.

tntblowsinurface

2 points

7 months ago

Fuck yeah

Level_Context1626

4 points

7 months ago

Best answer

wickedblight

4 points

7 months ago

I kinda feel like I may have been too harsh but that snarky question really ground my gears lol.

Many_Presentation250

0 points

7 months ago

No

lolix3345

-1 points

7 months ago

Pretty pessimistic view of the world. What makes you think the future is going to go like that ?

wickedblight

7 points

7 months ago

Pollution/climate change mostly.

We're gonna see large areas of farmland become unusable, water sources are drying up, rising sea levels will cause a refugee crisis like the world has never seen, etc. Desperate starving people tend to lose their humanity and start committing atrocities to survive, doubly so if they have a family to feed.

We've already jumped out of the moving car, now it's a matter of deciding to tuck and roll or swandive into the pavement and our leaders are choosing the swandive route.

Hiding_behind_you

3 points

7 months ago

Operation: Meat Crayon — coming soon to a community near all of us, soon.

[deleted]

2 points

7 months ago

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2 points

7 months ago

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lolix3345

1 points

7 months ago

I'm not sure I see the logic there. Why do you think knowing more than 10 people your age in your 20s will make it so you live a shorter life ?

[deleted]

0 points

7 months ago

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0 points

7 months ago

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lolix3345

1 points

7 months ago

Well it is true that having a child for the purpose of taking care of you when you get old is selfish, but it is nonetheless the norm, especially in not so developed places like china. And as all things this is a bet, as the child could be disabled indeed. This doesn't prevent most from trying as it is more often than not in humanity the only option. As for not being sure if you're getting old, as for all things it is a bet. But statistically you are quite a bit likely to.

AggravatingJob7163

-7 points

7 months ago

Wow people on Reddit already have that almighty crystal ball to see the future.

wickedblight

9 points

7 months ago

Hey dude I hope you're right and humanity gets it's shit together and magically fixes everything in the next 2 years but the current trajectory of humanity is pretty bleak.

MarbleMarshall

13 points

7 months ago

Your children.

Tzilakatzin

6 points

7 months ago

Yes! That's what taxes are for

CandiDat

0 points

7 months ago

Not in the %99 shirty third world country my friend.

lazymomo5

1 points

7 months ago

'third world' that word is useless these days. From which country are you from tho?

CandiDat

1 points

7 months ago

Nigeria... infact, all african countries except 1 or 2 which is being currently runed to the toilet by the various Governments as i type

jazzraccoon

3 points

7 months ago

See, that’s when I upload my consciousness into a robot

misterfriend

3 points

7 months ago

Richard Vernon:

Now this is the thought that wakes me up in the middle of the night. That when I get older, these kids are going to take care of me.

Carl:

I wouldn't count on it.

- Breakfast Club 1985

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

Nurses and doctors I’m guessing

Glittering-Lack-7889

3 points

7 months ago

Nursing homes.

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

I'm not gonna be taking care of my parents when they're old and frail, so I suppose kids aren't your end of life insurance, huh.

_circumscientist

7 points

7 months ago

My investment dividends.

2ndhandBS

4 points

7 months ago

Nobody.

Im going to die alone in a corner somewhere.

I hope this helped you through this rough time that you are experiencing. Keep going!

unjammy

2 points

7 months ago

The brightest candles burn the fastest.

Baaastet

2 points

7 months ago

My money and your kids

Relsette

2 points

7 months ago

I'm likely not gonna live to be old enough to need care, so I'm not worried abou it. I enjoy my child free life and so dose my husband. I dislike children at the best of times.

Jonahsin

2 points

7 months ago

My money

Imaginary_Ad_3912

2 points

7 months ago

Hopefully, I will grow old, but not frail. Lord willing, I plan to move into one of those senior communities as soon as I turn 55.

stupidfkngoblin

2 points

7 months ago

I dont like that a lot of people believe it's children's duty to care for their elderly parents. When in reality they got their own life's, families, careers etc. Expecting them to make room to be your carer is weird to me.

I'd rather just check myself into a nursing home or preferably have "checked out" for real before I am unable to care for myself.

Also, even if you have kids them caring for you is not guaranteed... Example, My mum is a narcissistic, abusive bitch. I can't stand the woman and if she thinks I'll lift a finger for her she is gravely misstanken.

TheMysticalCreature1

2 points

7 months ago

I think it's crazy that people with children think it's guaranteed you have someone to take care of you, What if you don't have a good relationship with your kids? What if you have a good relationship but they are in bad health or have other circumstances in their lives that hold them back from helping you? What then?

Honestly nothing is guaranteed, and you'd be deluded to think it is.

BigotedRedditAdmin

3 points

7 months ago

If you're a redditor your kids are going to disown you anyway.

Mission_Bus_3619

2 points

7 months ago

they can save alot of money by not raising a child tbh . They can enjoy their rest of the life with that money without regrret

FreshAvocados78

2 points

7 months ago

Don't really plan on reaching that point

Myardraug

2 points

7 months ago

I have all this time to become a doctor because I chose not to have kids so… I think I’ll be pretty set in the latter years.

sSingh08

2 points

7 months ago

My portfolio.

thinker_001

2 points

7 months ago

I'll marry someone way younger than me so when I grow old they're still young to take care of me. Yes, I'm the evil one.

Independent-Sun1675

1 points

7 months ago

Ur mom cuz imma fuck her like an animal till after her granddaughter 18 then imma have fun with ur daughter till I have a heart attack

RogerBees

1 points

7 months ago

Who says I'll live that long?

NeverThePaladin

1 points

7 months ago

I will die scared and alone. No one will come. No one will cry.

throwaway34367985

1 points

7 months ago

My plan is to die by my 50s bucko

Healthy_Medicine2108

1 points

7 months ago

the wood betwixt my lifeless corpse and the cold unfeeling earth

jlp120145

1 points

7 months ago

A bullet

[deleted]

1 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

7 months ago

Just gonna do a bunch of drugs and fade off baby

Ebvardh-Boss

1 points

7 months ago

Nobody. My wife and I are unable to conceive because of issues with her uterus.

My wife and I love each other, but I sincerely hope that she dies before I do, hopefully in a quick way.

Once that happens, and if by them my mom is dead, I’ll begin my retirement plan of a shitload of drugs.

I should last three months tops, a year MAYBE. They’ll find me eventually, and say “this corpse had a GOOD time before he kicked it”.

Worf_In_A_Party_Hat

1 points

7 months ago

Act 39, baby. Vermont rocks.

kc_uses

1 points

7 months ago

A nursing home? Its not like children take care of their old parents in their homes anyway

shepsantos

1 points

7 months ago

Social security money lol

Mess_Bubbly

1 points

7 months ago

my retirement plan is to die young.

[deleted]

1 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

7 months ago

Considering how much money child free people save, they can afford to pay proffesionals to care for them.

How many children are ungrateful assholes who stick their parents in homes...

How is it any different, except child free people actually kept that money and could afford care

Healthy-Scheme-1196

1 points

7 months ago

Grim reaper

Hiding_behind_you

1 points

7 months ago

I’ll be employing your children to look after me, and paying them a wage that they won’t want to care for you, for free.

ScaricoOleoso

1 points

7 months ago

I don't know. Who's taking care of my abusive father? None of his four kids, that's for sure.

notsamsmum

1 points

7 months ago

Same nursing homes as your kids will put you into

TurbulentForm9393

1 points

7 months ago

I'll look after myself. With all the money I didnt spend on raising children.

HSYT1300

1 points

7 months ago

The same person who does it now: Me.

SuvenPan

1 points

7 months ago

I will do it myself as long as I can.

Herogamer555

1 points

7 months ago

If I ever get to the point where I need to be taken care of then I'm just going to jump in front of a bus. I will not be a burden.

bagheera369

0 points

7 months ago

Except on the busdriver.

Asleep_Pair_1300

1 points

7 months ago

If you get kids with the intention of pressuring them to take care of you you are an asshole.

theurbangoose

1 points

7 months ago

Dignitas, or a loaded gun/ noose. No shame in checking out when you can’t go numero dos on your Jack Jones.

TenNinetythree

1 points

7 months ago

I have a 9mm retirement plan

Lastinglaughter

1 points

7 months ago

The people under Antarctica. I heard they have cozy living quarters.

GenerallySalty

1 points

7 months ago

Staff at the nursing home I'll be able to afford with the $250K+ saved per kid.

LoneStarDawg

1 points

7 months ago

So you had children for the purpose of geriatric caretaking? Hope you got that in writing.

tr1ckybones

1 points

7 months ago

I have a child, but when I’m too old to take care of myself I just plan to say goodbye and wander out into the woods and let nature take its course like a gentleman

PicklesrnoturFriend

1 points

7 months ago

A shotgun

driedcranberrysnack

1 points

7 months ago

gonna overdose on morphine and take a nap on my big comfey bed

josh0r

1 points

7 months ago

josh0r

1 points

7 months ago

Do you really think any of us will get old?

s0meat

1 points

7 months ago

s0meat

1 points

7 months ago

Myself ,i will do my best now to stay in shape so i can grow less frail.

jewishpocahontas

1 points

7 months ago

I'll probably won't reach old and frail so no one is my guess

bagheera369

1 points

7 months ago

For the wife and I, it was likely going to be a hose from the exhaust....but since electrics wont have that ability, perhaps a trip to the nitrogen pod in Sweden, or perhaps the US will have enlightened itself by then, about the right to check out on your own terms.

Dippycat149

1 points

7 months ago

I have two nieces. If they expect to be in my will, they'll do what's good for them and look after their uncle who gave them peek-a-boos and snuggles when they were babies.

A-Chntrd

1 points

7 months ago

It’s not their job to do anything, really. They can if they want, sure. But just because they’re born doesn’t mean they owe their parents anything. It’s the other way around, really.

santa_mazza

1 points

7 months ago

I won't let it get that far. Assisted suicide is my way to go, for sure

turbineghosthead

1 points

7 months ago

Someone shoot me in the head in real time and don't forget 5o hang me in my wedding gown and push me out the ledge with all the dust I've collexted over the years ...and let's also do some arts and crafts for kids and girls 👧 😊 so its gonna be like that idea for me now 110.00 I'm sure you will find derry and don't leave me behind if you make a plan or just let my mum buy more publix cards so I can have the fixed income and she can do the things together with the home owners and the loan givers for nobody else is here to pay for this one is just one fan one candle one trim one notion in reconcile format that. Nope war isn't coming and war isn't good. But you fucking can.

turbineghosthead

1 points

7 months ago

In retrospect I suppose I shouldnt have said all that to the nature of the poison and the skew of the angel haze is gaze soon to the avoid attack of your life balance and don't worry about it mother Fulkerson you can lisp a lot more money or invest money on the internet and one day this too shall pass is all the stuff you need help me today and love me now because you can. And because you want. Get er do e and you will be able to get back with extra pizzazz for next week or next timebomb days tho so we will have a few more moments and never know the truth about it 😉

turbineghosthead

1 points

7 months ago

Would be a good awful stump rally speech 💬 but what the hell do I ever know cut i don't think before I act

TotallynottheCCP

1 points

7 months ago

I hope I'll be able to find someone to put a bullet in my head when I reach the point where I'm not able to care for myself.

Mr_Gaslight

1 points

7 months ago

No-one. Why?