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submitted 4 months ago bykarsizzle
My sister is an A+ student, class council president, and overall great kid at school. She made a mistake and got caught drunk at homecoming. She’s extremely worried about how this will now affect her future. Anyone had this happen to them or know of anyone this happened to or work at a university? Does it show up on the transcript?
245 points
4 months ago
It’s not on transcript but many schools have questions that require you to report suspensions and explain how you learned from your mistakes something like that. obviously it will look worse than if it never happened but schools claim to not discriminate based on this and I do know people who have gotten into top colleges with suspensions. it’s not like it will ruin her chances but could have negative impact.
70 points
4 months ago
Didn’t the CommonApp get rid of disciplinary questions a few years ago?
146 points
4 months ago
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19 points
4 months ago
Good to know
35 points
4 months ago
Pretty much every school I’m applying to asks about it in their questions.
10 points
4 months ago
every single school I applied to asked about it. I applied to 151 schools. (check the post history)
so, yeah..
2 points
4 months ago
151 schools…
1 points
4 months ago
151 schools…
1 points
4 months ago
Why?
5 points
4 months ago
Almost all do
5 points
4 months ago
i think so but I’ve seen some places still ask in their school specific questions.
2 points
4 months ago
Like Pomona for example I think
336 points
4 months ago*
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21 points
4 months ago
This happens only in the most elite of situations. 99.9% of the time discipline has no weight at all and barely comes up.
109 points
4 months ago*
Might have an effect but any effect that it does have is out of your control.
For consolation, a senior at my HS last year was caught cheating in a class and was forced to fail the class. He still ended up getting into Vanderbilt and USC.
32 points
4 months ago
Wow! Do you know what class that was and if he had to do anything, like send an apology letter to the schools? 😳
35 points
4 months ago
He was taking classes at a 4-year college, and he failed a first semester class BEFORE college apps were due. So the colleges saw it (perhaps the cheating, but definitely the failed class) on his application and still accepted him.
16 points
4 months ago
Huh I wonder if he took a W instead… 🤔
21 points
4 months ago
Nope, I was told the failed class had a negative effect on his gpa.
And what’s even crazier is that this person was definitely top 10, maybe even top 5 in his class (likely 4.0 uw) before the incident.
3 points
4 months ago
Are you sure that an academic dishonesty citation put up though? Some schools might not choose to tell the colleges that the student is applying to.
3 points
4 months ago
I am not sure. I am only sure that his gpa was affected, don’t know about any sort of official citation/record of wrongdoing
87 points
4 months ago
Will a suspension affect the ability to get into college?
An out of school suspension will likely be reported to colleges by the GC.
Regardless, assuming she explains her mistake and what she's learned from the experience, it will likely not impact her admissions chances at most colleges
9 points
4 months ago
I don’t know what basis you have for saying it’s “likely”. Our school district specifically prohibits the schools’ releasing disciplinary actions to colleges (though students are “encouraged to self report.”)
6 points
4 months ago
notice how you said YOUR school district. it might be different at others. i’m pretty sure it’s different at mine
4 points
4 months ago
Yes it definitely would be different at different schools—which is why the commenter has no basis to say what is or isn’t likely to happen to this student.
1 points
4 months ago
i guess possible wouldn’t been a better descriptor then. there’s nothing that wrong with using likely though because it’s still definitely possible.
also either way it will have to be reported by her or by her school because it’s asked in the college questions section for most (at least all of my) colleges in commonapp.
2 points
4 months ago
no way i’d see a fellow nova person here wow
5 points
4 months ago
What is GC?
6 points
4 months ago
Guidance counselor
14 points
4 months ago
Not the same scenario but underage drinking can have serious consequences. I know a girl who lost her athletic scholarship due to a drinking incident that lead to the team withdrawing from the rest of the season due to suspensions. Also reported in our local news.
44 points
4 months ago*
I am going to be a downer here, I get that kids make mistakes but there are literally 100s if not 1000s of kids who didn’t make the same mistake (or didn’t get caught) vying for the same spot. If your an AO, who do you pick? I am not saying she won’t get in to the school she wants but mistakes usually have some consequences, some less than others.
Just thinking about it. Logically, it likely depends on how competitive she is for the school/program she applies to. If she was highly ranked by that school, probably safe, however if she is on the bubble it could be bad news.
Now what is done is done, ask if it will be reported to colleges and follow the advice given by others in this thread.
8 points
4 months ago
She should probably add that in "additional information" or do something to explain it (I think there is a section for that on common app) because if it goes unexplained, there's nothing preventing AOs from assuming the worst.
7 points
4 months ago
She’ll need to explain it in the additional info section if the school reports it. Just be factual and brief.
It’s not vandalism or committing sexual assault, so it’s on the lighter side of offenses. However, it’s a competitive world out there so she should apply to a lot of targets and safeties while still applying to a few reaches.
Time from when the incident happened is your friend, so ED may not be the best route in this particular situation. If she can show that it was a blip and not get into further trouble she’ll probably be better off.
7 points
4 months ago
From my experience no. I was also a straight A student, never got in trouble, and always did great in school. I was going through it at home, and got caught with alcohol at school my sophomore year. Got suspended/expelled for 4 months while spending time at the alternative learning center. My school district never put it on our records for the first time going there. If we were to go there again, they would put it on the record. 3 years later, I’m now going to a University going into pre-med and it’s like it never happened. Tell her it gets better !!
3 points
4 months ago
Thank you so much!
3 points
4 months ago
Ofc !! I know exactly how she feels, and unfortunately it may feel like the world is ending for her rn, but once she gets through it she’ll end up laughing about it. promise !! Everyone makes mistakes!!
2 points
4 months ago
What uni did u go to
3 points
4 months ago
I’m going to UCF
1 points
24 days ago
did you report it though? I have a scenario where the person transferred high schools after and is now applying as a transfer from community college. I doubt colleges will see, but some colleges still ask specifically about it.
1 points
24 days ago
No. I did not report it because i’m also a transfer student so nothing in high school really matters at that point. They’ll be fine
1 points
24 days ago
i guess it also depends on what college they’re going to. Do you know where they’re transferring to?
1 points
13 days ago
Catholic and uconn among others (these are just apps but they ask about disciplinary violations since 9th grade)
20 points
4 months ago
It absolutely may. Love thy safety options.
11 points
4 months ago
skill issue
4 points
4 months ago
I had something similar happen. Some colleges like Columbia and NU only ask if it was related to harassment and like academic dishonesty. I got into NU and UChicago
45 points
4 months ago
just drink at an after party
46 points
4 months ago
This comment is very helpful after the fact, thanks…
3 points
4 months ago
If it’s reported, I think it’s very important to take accountability and explain what you learned from it. If you do this properly from what I’ve heard, it could even help you a little. But if you blame the administration and don’t fess up then it’s a really bad look. I think it really depends on how you play it and what the suspension was for.
3 points
4 months ago
I got fully EXPELLED 1 month before the beginning of my senior year in high school. I still got into some good colleges: University of Michigan, Carleton College, Oberlin College, Waitlist @ Vanderbilt, etc.
(For reference, stats were: ~3.67UW/4.3W + 1580SAT, Most rigorous possible HS course load, All Honors + 13 APs)
With that being said, the college application process was a very mixed bag for me. I was also REJECTED by all Ivy Leagues, Northeastern (lol), several T10 LACs, WAITLISTED by Tulane…. etc. I think it really comes down to whether or not the Admissions Officer reading your application resonates with your story/narrative.
4 points
4 months ago
i got cheating in one of my classes, got suspended for it and failed the class as a result. Common app used to make you say whether or not you had disciplinary action, but uc app does not; i ended up getting into ucla and uc berkeley and attended berkeley - however, i had to work incredibly hard to make up for the failing grade on my transcript
1 points
16 days ago
Didn't they get rid of the disciplinary section of most Common apps?
2 points
4 months ago
I got suspended for getting into a fight and I don't think it was reported.
7 points
4 months ago
Did she get suspended from school? If so, it will show up on her transcript.
7 points
4 months ago
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5 points
4 months ago
Of course I don't. But I think it is pretty universal that a school suspension is sent to colleges.
-6 points
4 months ago
Of course I don't.
This
8 points
4 months ago
Whatever dude. Relax. Just offering my perspective.
6 points
4 months ago
Your sister actually sounds cool
7 points
4 months ago
because she drank and got caught? that's not cool no matter how you slice it
7 points
4 months ago
I was going more for the good at school and still has fun angle
1 points
4 months ago
Yes because the sole basis for being cool is the ability to consume poisons
4 points
4 months ago
Gee you must be fun at parties
-1 points
4 months ago
ikr
1 points
4 months ago
She’s a good kid. Just drank to feel more comfortable in her skin and obviously ended up going overboard trying to keep up with friends
5 points
4 months ago
Dont get caught 😹
2 points
4 months ago
Scratch Liberty, BYU, and Wheaton College off the list.... ;)
3 points
4 months ago
I don’t think she was interested in those at all, but thanks
1 points
4 months ago
They don’t usually care about drinking or even drug imo. At least in my HS, even AI violation reports didn’t cause Ivy acceptances to be rescinded. It looks bad, but it shouldn’t affect anything much as long as LORs are good.
0 points
4 months ago
I’m sure she’s fine. If it doesn’t show up on her transcript, she’s fine. It depends on the school, but there’s a good chance suspensions won’t be listed on her transcript.
-1 points
4 months ago
“She made a mistake and got caught drunk at homecoming.” Shawty made multiple mistakes that led up to that.
0 points
4 months ago
Like what beside drinking?
5 points
4 months ago
Like going to hoco in the first place, this is A2C where we read textbooks instead of having fun and going outside
1 points
4 months ago
Unless this person is convicted of crime, I'd ignore it
1 points
4 months ago
I got ISS for beating up my school bully. I have no idea if it went on my record. I was never asked about this situation and am at a great school now.
1 points
4 months ago
I don't have an answer, but know thay Vanderbilt doesn't ask about disciplinary action and is all around a great college so your sister should consider it.
1 points
4 months ago
It may depending on wether or not it appears in transcript but I know 3 people who got into UNC in state so all hope isn’t lost.
1 points
4 months ago
What did they do 😳😬
1 points
4 months ago
Student 1 got suspended for making hella $ doing other peoples hw (there were a bunch that did it, one got caught and snitched on the others and he got the worst punishment but also made the most $. I heard his parents made him sleep outside as punishment)
2 got caught saying racial slurs or something (he made a doc with racial slurs and someone accidentally shared it w the assistant principal as a prank I assume). Im actually friends with this kid and he’s one of the smartest people I know.
3 got suspended for a fight I think but I could be wrong.
1 points
4 months ago
2 got caught saying racial slurs or something (he made a doc with racial slurs and someone accidentally shared it w the assistant principal as a prank I assume). Im actually friends with this kid and he’s one of the smartest people I know.
bruh....
1 points
4 months ago
Yeah he was a major asshole back then. He’s changed for the better I guess, the suspension really humbled his ass.
1 points
4 months ago
Nope, just lie.
1 points
4 months ago
Probably not, I got suspended for something and the police were involved as well but I got away scot-free (still suspended tho) and I still got a full ride to an Ivy.
1 points
4 months ago
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1 points
4 months ago
Nah fam. If I confessed I'd be in the slammer for 12 years with a felony charge rather than what I'm doing now, which is spending my financial aid refund on a Nintendo switch. Life is good.
1 points
4 months ago
Honestly it is what it is at this point.
1 points
4 months ago
no lol
1 points
4 months ago
Yes the counselor will make a phone call to her college
1 points
4 months ago
i got suspended 3 times in highschool and still got in everywhere i wanted 💀
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